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I have my Atrix for about 3 months now, and from the beginning was thinking on buying the lapdock aswell but held myself due to its over expensive price (500$ for a damn docking!!!). Personally I don't see any reason to buy a docking for just 1 device in over 150$.
I've got now a chance to buy a semi-used one for 210$ (with a spare charger) and I wanted some consolt about it:
1) Is it possible to write office docs such as word and excell on it?
2) Is it possible to connect USB storage devices to it?
Since my primery uses for it will be as a working tool for docs writing (Thesis, reports and stuff), that can replace my aging laptop and instead of buying a notebook. will it be enough for my uses?
Can I use a Ubuntu hack to make it work as a Linux laptop?
Does it worth the 210$? or should I remain assertive on my "not over 150$" policy?
Much 10xs for all
I have had mine for a month now and in my opinion is OK but very limited. First there is the WIFI only unless you get the tethering plan or can get the hack to work (I have not yet got it to work). I use mine for remotely connecting to my Windows server but use a paid app Pocketcloud which works fine with the full screen mode on the lapdock although sizing the screen is sometimes a problem.
In answer to your questions:
1 If there is an app for Office docs which there is the answer is Yes but all the lapdock is really is a large screen for your phone, if you can do it on the phone you can do it on the lapdock.
2. I believe you can but it needs a hack
In my opinion it is not really yet a substitute for a laptop but if the hacks for Ubantu, tethering, etc are refined it may be in time but it in all honesty does not appear the be there yet.
As far as price, probably worth $200.00 to me to throw in the car so that I have a larger screen to log into my server when I am on the road etc without wireless, but that is a decision you would have to make.
You can buy it cheaper online, refurbished. It comes in very good working condition. My first one had a dead pixel, but AT&T let me bring it in and they gave me a new refurb'd.
They're 175 + tax online.
It says that flash drives and mice are supported. But I'm not sure. Haven't tried.
There's also a Google Docs app if you don't want to mod your WebTop. You can get OpenOffice if you use WebTop2SD, or the Debian mod.
Hey
first 10x to you both
Second, did I understand you correct? in webtop mod I cant use 3G? whats the point then? shouldnt it supposed to be a "laptop" with all the capabilities of the Atrix?
anyway, Sinful, can you give me a link for this price?
Another question, Does anyone knows if there are 10 intch screens with HDMI inlet? It ca be a cheap replacement for the lapdock....
You CAN connect with 3G with the regular phone interface which can be full screen on the lapdock. What you cannot do without the ATT tethering plan is to use the "full" Firefox browser on the lapdock.
For the most part it works fine just using the phone interface with the phone's browser in full screen mode.
I bought a refurb from lapdock from att and have been pleased with it. I have done the debian hack and the tethering hack to get firefox to work with my data plan. In reguards to your second question, I have hooked up external usb drives without problem. It gets mounted just fine and I am able to copy files without problem. Open Office also works well.
O.K
Thanks for the clarification.
Thats quite ****ty! Why would they do that?
Anyhow, since i'm not an AT&T costumer, I obviesly dont have the 'AT&T tethering program', so I guess it will be problematic for me to use the 3G.
I dont see what the use of the lapdock if I cant use my 3G, and I really dont want to use the phone browser in full mode to be able to do so.
Well, we will have to wait for the 2.3.4 official AT&T rom, and maybe they will enable this, or just wait for a skillful dev that will do that...
Which tethering hack did you use? I could not get mine to work. Thanks
AT&T thinks that using an external display of ANY form is considered tethering, even though its technically the same "computing device", just the output/input being redirected. I had a major "phone fight" with AT&Ts support, and am in talks with my lawyer if this actually enforceable. But yes, if you want to use the standard 3G web connectivity on your webtop's Firefox browser, AT&T requires you to get the 45 USD dataplan.
Alternatively you can try FIREFOX from the app market, and run it "fullscreen" through your Android GUI-"window".
As for office application that does Microsoft's office 2010 documents, I swear by QUICK OFFICE PRO. It does excel, word, PowerPoint and adobe PDF to create/edit.
I use my ATRIX as a semi desktop on the go, via Bluetooth keyboard and the ATRIX plugged into any TV or monitor that has a DVI (with HDMI-2-DVI adapter) or HDMI jack, and use the ATRIX itself as a mouse, since the touchscreen turns into a laptop-style -mousepad
There are mods out there to run an (almost) full Ubuntu, but last time I checked they had massive storage constraints trying to make it work all the way. Not sure if they overcome them by now.
But since the bootlaoder can be now unlocked, we probably will see soon some cool ROMS that allow us to use the ATRIX in a full Ubuntu environment.
Just hoping :-D
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I have been using my atrix to do my general doc file typings. So far I am happy.
here are some stuff that you may need to know:
1. you can use an external drive as long as it is formatted FAT32.
2. you can use a cable mouse
3. look under development section and look up debian and ubuntu images for webtop. I found debian more reliable but ubuntu solution has more flexibility.
Using either solution you can install koffice or openoffice for your typing needs. If you simply want to type in text and do the formatting at a later time look up the "easy_v0.2.5-signed.zip" under debian solution. It will give you a on screen window for typing similar to notepad which is pretty nice.
There is also the webtop2sd project that is in beta. I suggest for it to come out of beta as it is not ready for general public yet.
I owned one , had hacked 3g tethering working and my opinion is NO not worth it unless you can get for 100-150 then its just OK
No. Id wait to see if there is any official webtop improvements....out of the box there is very little funvtionality.
Also, moto has said that there will be more accesories, and they have filed for a Tabdock....which may be much better if its basicly a xoom transformer. I think they released the lapdock first more as a webtop beta and to not have a tabdock compete with their zoom.
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Ive got one, and the usb drive works fine, and i have a wireless mouse that seems to work just fine, it does what ever your phone does, and stores it on your phone, so... if you consider your phone your primary computer then this is for you.... i will be trading mine in on a laptop or at the very least a net book of some kind that will allow me to use financial software and other windows/mac essential software...
its a neat idea, but at this stage its gimmicky at best.
vonh
Sorry to dig this thread up, but I just got my Lapdock and in the last month it has matured a bit more, with lots of hacks to install several Linux distros allowing to install native Linux apps to the environment.
So far, I'm very pleased and glad to leave the 15.4" laptop at home.
This is what I use my Lapdock for:
1. Remote into my job Servers and Workstations through LogMeIn. I still don't jump into Cytrix yet.
2. Browse the web natively through full Firefox for research and entertainment.
3. Remotely manage my home's NAS
4. Download, display an manage files (.RAR, .ZIP, .APK, .DOC, .PPS, .XLS, .PDF, etc)
5. A few games here and there (like AngryBirds) but honestly, I prefer to play them on the phone itself due to multitouch.
6. I manage several personal and business websites and portals, and I can pretty much do all I need to accomplish this. (FTP, Edit, Upload, Download, Code, etc)
What's lacking on the Lapdock:
1. No front Webcam (no way to answer a video call from Google Voice, Skype, etc)
2. No fron Microphone (I constantly find myself yelling so people on the other side of the line can hear me, I now use a wired headset. Maybe a BT headset would be more comfortable though.)
3. No way to input international accented characters (I hope to find a way to hack a way to implement this.)
4. No accelerated video under Webtop?
My conclusion:
For me, I think that overall it's a great complement to my Atrix as long as you don't pay more than $200 for it.
Cheers!
Rayan
Currently to me ubuntu running on top of android is pointless but intriguing. Is it possible to connected an external Usb wifi adapter to the phone and have it recognized in ubuntu? More simply put can the phone allow the needed data through the USB interface? I cannot be the only one considering the joy of running Airpwn on a mobile phone... Any thoughts? If the wifi adapter is possible it opens up a whole new box of abilities for the phone.
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Went ahead and ordered http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-Wireless-Long-Rang-Panel/dp/B003YI4HRM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
And a couple microusb to Usb adapters to test with.. I'll let yall know if I'm successful when I get everything.
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I've been thinking about this since i got the Note. Glad to see someone is thinking along the same lines.
I'm looking forward to seeing your results.
I should have the wifi adapter this week but the damn 50 cent microusb adapter will take until the 1st. Some odd reason I didn't feel like paying for shipping on something that costs 50cents.
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Funny I just ordered an Ethernet to usb adapter for similar purposes. I want to see if I can use Android to do network testing so I dont have to carry a laptop with me.
Looking forward to seeing your results. I will post mine as well.
PS. How do you get Ubuntu to run on the Note?
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Funny I just ordered an Ethernet to usb adapter for similar purposes. I want to see if I can use Android to do network testing so I dont have to carry a laptop with me.
Looking forward to seeing your results. I will post mine as well.
PS. How do you get Ubuntu to run on the Note?
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Never thought of that. Now that I'm its a bit scary from a network security standpoint. Having a small easly hidden device hooked into an ethernet network and just running wireshark or ethereal. Lol
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It is possible to get Ubuntu running via a virtual machine setup (emulating Ubuntu on the phone inside Android). The other possibility is a remote desktop option.
The two problems however:
1. Most USB devices require power - something I dont believe the phone puts out thru the USB micro port.
2. Getting direct access to the hardware (required for most of these types of tools to work) is not likely possible via a VM or Remote Desktop situation.
My guess is, this wont work, but Im a glass half full kind of guy.
A little OT but does anyone know if Ubuntu (via Ubuntu installer free app) works on SauRom?
Tried to get working but I couldn't start the shell. I'm thinking the bottleneck is the kernel, not sure if it allows multiple loops or something like that
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It is possible to get Ubuntu running via a virtual machine setup (emulating Ubuntu on the phone inside Android). The other possibility is a remote desktop option.
The two problems however:
1. Most USB devices require power - something I dont believe the phone puts out thru the USB micro port.
2. Getting direct access to the hardware (required for most of these types of tools to work) is not likely possible via a VM or Remote Desktop situation.
My guess is, this wont work, but Im a glass half full kind of guy.
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1. I thought about the power requirements after I bought it and so far I haven't been able to find any data on how much power the phone can supply through the USB port but seeing how the MHL requires additional power I might have to get creative to get power to the wifi adapter.
2. As long as the phone recognizes the wifi adapter as a host I don't think I'll have any problems with it inside the ubuntu VM. If I do I might be able to do alittle kernel work to make it communicate properly.
I'm trying to be optimistic as I really want it to work. Plus if integrating the wifi adapter directly fails I have a back up plan... Arduino to the rescue.
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I'm not an expert on all things linux, but the chroot method isn't a virtual machine, it should be full fledged linux on the hardware.
Android runs all processes in a VM. But anyways I have it all working.
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I have all the needed drivers for my wifi adapter cross compiled one set for the current ICS and one for GB. The ICS you need to manually install the drivers from terminal and the GB is already included into my custom kernel. If anyone is interested let me know. At this moment I do not plan on putting it out in the public in the development forum...
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Carnifex3 said:
I should have the wifi adapter this week but the damn 50 cent microusb adapter will take until the 1st. Some odd reason I didn't feel like paying for shipping on something that costs 50cents.
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On the same page. I cringe when I order something on Amazon for 3.99 and there's 6 dollars shipping.
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So.. Right now I'm currently building a computer from well, basically scrap. So far, everything seems to be going well in terms of gathering the parts and now it's almost time to get my hands dirty and start putting it together. The basic idea is that this laptop is going to run off the MK808 portable android USB stick, which will control hopefully every aspect of the PC from a functioning webcam, touch-pad, keyboard and so on. I'm doing the build by tearing down an old 17" laptop that has a fried mobo, and I'm trying to salvage as much as possible for use in this project.
So, now onto my question! On sites like ebay, you can purchase adapters to convert the optical drive of laptops into a USB external powered drive. If I was to give this the power it needs, and connect it via USB to the MK808, would the Android OS 4.1 be able to recognize it? I do plan to do this either way, as I'll also be running Ubuntu next to Android, but this would be some sick bragging rights! I've heard iffy stories about the Samsung drive that kinda works with Android, and I can't figure out what that would have that this wouldn't.. but then again, I'm sure you people here on XDA know much more about this than I!
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Im also searching for this answer as well
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Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
When I first connected my adapter that came with my tablet to the keyboard adapter I was very disappointed that nothing happened. I tried several different browser pages, but nothing happened. I read reviews on here and noticed on about that someone mentioned they changed their USB settings and their keyboard finally started working. So, I immediately went to my Settings, Advanced Settings, and then USB BUS MODE and changed it from DEVICE mode to HOST mode and VOILA - the keyboard immediately started functioning
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I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
OTG not in any of the Nook Tablet yet
OTG is not implemented yet on the stock nor current cm10 roms based on what I have asked in this forum for Nook Tablet. I know you can do this with the new nooks that have monochrome display. May I ask where did you read this article?
bulsatar said:
Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
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yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
bulsatar said:
yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
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Were you reading the review for the Nook Color with working usb otg? It does work for that tablet, not the NT though.
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I wasn't looking specifically for how to get it working on the tablet, just looking in general for how to do it in android. Hopefully they implement the otg soon
I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
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I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
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At this time the NT does not have usb otg on any ROM, it may in the future, but if and when is not known at this time. The NT will never have bluetooth, Never. It has been well documented why, do a search and read. So a BT keyboard will never work. Is it really that hard to type with your thumbs?
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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I bought a Toshiba Thrive 32gb off craigslist for $200. I am now running CM10. I bought it for those exact reasons. It has full sized usb, full sized hdmi, micro usb, full sized sd card expandable to 128 gb, bluetooth capable, gps, 10.1" screen. I use a mouse through usb, bluetooth keyboard, and I hook it up to my TV or
computer monitor and is performs really well as a portable computer with little cost involved.
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lol, after spending 150 on the tablet I think that I am going to skip buying another, however I have started looking at other virtual keyboard options and will be trying out a few to see if they can fill the gap until/if they activate the usb otg. Thanks for the info and I will reply if I find a keyboard that I like enough to be useable as a touch typer!!
I'm looking for a dock for my Optimus G that will allow me to hook up a keyboard and mouse or at least just a keyboard to it. Does anyone know of a dock like this or if it is even possible for the Optimus G? I know there is a dock like this for the Note 2 but its over $100 and that is a lot to throw away if it doesn't work. If anyone has some insight let me know.
Use an MHL adapter
You can use any blue tooth mouse and keyboard. Try a blue tooth keyboard with a track pad. And use any MHL cable to display the content onto a screen.
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I'm looking for a dock for my Optimus G that will allow me to hook up a keyboard and mouse or at least just a keyboard to it. Does anyone know of a dock like this or if it is even possible for the Optimus G? I know there is a dock like this for the Note 2 but its over $100 and that is a lot to throw away if it doesn't work. If anyone has some insight let me know.
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http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PA-BK03-PB&cat=WLS
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Thanks for the responses guys ill look into the different options. Do you know also if there is a way to have the phone connected to a laptop and almost work like a vm of the phone on the desktop where you could have it in its own window and run everything like email and texting off of it through the computer? I tried googling and researching this on my own but didn't come up with much. It may be because i don't know the right terminology to look for.
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Thanks for the responses guys ill look into the different options. Do you know also if there is a way to have the phone connected to a laptop and almost work like a vm of the phone on the desktop where you could have it in its own window and run everything like email and texting off of it through the computer? I tried googling and researching this on my own but didn't come up with much. It may be because i don't know the right terminology to look for.
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LG makes a program called On Screen Phone that will allow you to see everything you're doing on your phone in real-time as well as use your mouse to control it. There will be a bit of lag, but I think it works well enough. Apparently some phones can do this over WiFi, but ours only has the option to do it over usb. I only played with it some this past weekend, so others may know more about it.
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LG makes a program called On Screen Phone that will allow you to see everything you're doing on your phone in real-time as well as use your mouse to control it. There will be a bit of lag, but I think it works well enough. Apparently some phones can do this over WiFi, but ours only has the option to do it over usb. I only played with it some this past weekend, so others may know more about it.
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works over WiFi on our devices as well its a little finicky though
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works over WiFi on our devices as well its a little finicky though
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Cool! Thanks for that. I just tried it and it seems to work nearly as well as the USB (at least in my few minutes of playing with it). Is there a way to get sound to work through the PC for video playback?
yeah for the most part it works without issue, other times can't seem to get it to connect by Wi-Fi for the life of me, USB always works tho... I briefly had the same thought as far as audio output but due to the varying delay between device and monitor the mouths would never match even if you delayed the audio it'd need constant adjustments because the video delay varies in light of that mhl would be the way to go for audio/ video or miracast but good luck with that
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I found this while looking yesterday and figured others may be interested in as well. The only problem I've found is that there is no ringtone or alert for new text messages other than the name of the tab changing in the browser to alert you. Other than that it works pretty well. Airdroid. Thanks for the suggestions guys, appreciate it.