The title says it all, lately I have been having battery problems. I have removed most of the apps I had, been using deep sleep, and I kill all running tasks. I think its my ROM.
I am running Pacman 4.3
There are WAY too many factors at play when it comes to battery life to really narrow it down to a "best ROM". Keep your screen dark, turn off location services and data when not using them, avoid poor wifi connections in settings, set screen timeout to shortest possible, etc...
Do your best at minimizing battery loss. Keep in mind, this is a small computer. It WILL suck a lot of battery. There is no magic app to give you days of use. The ROM you run really won't make much of a difference. It's the services and how you maintain your battery that will.
In my experience, Houstonn's 4.3 PA and stock 4.4 builds have been the lightest on battery.
Though, At this time, Any 4.4 is good.
OMGMatrix said:
In my experience, Houstonn's 4.3 PA and stock 4.4 builds have been the lightest on battery.
Though, At this time, Any 4.4 is good.
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I second the fact that houstonn's 4.4 AOSP build is the best battery performance I've seen.
Have you tried using greenify or better battery stats?
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Keep your screen dark, turn off location services and data when not using them, avoid poor wifi connections in settings, set screen timeout to shortest possible, etc...
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The two biggest battery consumers are the screen and the data radios. Anything you can do to decrease y the battery usage of those two will give you the best battery life.
There is no magic app to give you days of use. The ROM you run really won't make much of a difference. It's the services and how you maintain your battery that will.
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To that end, an app like JuiceDefender configured to manage the days radios can go a long way to extending battery life.
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I flashed SlimKat 4.4.2 beta 1.6 WEEKLY and the battery has been outstanding. I use JuiceDefender Ultimate and lower screen brightness along with limited connectivity when the screen is off. Unplugged for 8 hrs and used for at least 4 today. I'm still over 70%!
I haven't had any bugs, random reboots, or force closes.. SlimKat is a great build thus far!
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Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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Nope, not minimal use.
Wifi on most of the time. Screen on for 4 hours. Music player on for 5 hours. Occasional GPS usage.
Question for all GB users, which is a pretty high number here. I ran MIUI Lithium and loved it except the battery was pathetic. I can deal with generally bad battery life since i came from an HD7 but it got out of hand. Anyway since there are a lot of GB roms out there and pretty active i suppose a lot of u found a way to handle it better. How do you u GB users get the most out of battery on a GB ROM? (ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
please share your setup since it can help a lot of others that want to manage battery better
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Try using the Bali-CM (For CM7/MIUI/OMFGB) kernel. It was designed around improving battery. I'm currently not using it however when I did I had much better battery life when I was... Also remember to undervolt, as that should further increase battery life without loss of performance. "Screen off" profiles in overclock apps like SetCPU also help in battery conservation.
An app that really helps battery life is called Juice Defender Plus. You should try it out! Here's an overview of the app posted by "Woodrube" that should help you get started...
This is how the JD Plus works (no need for JD Ultimate b/c we don't have many of the functions it supports. I just copied this from another thread the OP started awhile ago and I was trying to helps him out there.
If you set it to custom, the go into the settings tab on the right and then all the way at the bottom, there is two buttons to push, The first in Interactive which will pull up Juice Defender for up for any app that isn't already configured and the other is Configure Apps. This is the one that you can customize on an app-to-app basis where if you are no using an app and the screen is locked, it kills the radio/data traffic for that app.
Say you are listening to IHeartRadio, this you would want either Enable or Enable/off (which means the screen will be locked but the radio/data will be working). Now take the browser. It you are not using the browser, then you don't need it transmitting data right? So you would set that one to Enable (which means that it will only enable data traffic when that app is being used).
Juice Defender only works when the screen is locked, don't forget and all widgets are battery drains b/c all they really are is a monitoring app and if it is tied to something like FB or G+, then that data will be running constantly.
Examples:
Gmail = Enable (not enable/off b/c then it will keep your radio/data open)
Beautiful Widgets = Enable/off
mClock/Clockr = Enable/off
Angry Birds = Disable (with this and something like Adfree, no more ads in Angry Birds even though the ads are embedded in the .apk)
SMS/MMS = Enable or Do Nothing (why would you push disable)
Enable = Radio/data on when app is in use (front)
Enable/off = Radio/data on for background apps (when screen is locked)
Disable = Disables radio/data traffic completely when that app is running
Do Nothing = What is says.
I have been using JD+ for over a year on 3 different phones and have noticed a considerable difference in battery life, even on a crappy Motorola phone. Just takes some time to figure out YOUR settings and what YOU like. I have also used it on Stock kernel and had no problems either.
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Under status I have Profile>Customize (this one lets you configure your apps) Notification> Text
Under settings I have
Mobile and Wifi are both set to Enable,
Options>Auto Disable,
Location>disable,
Schedule>Enable:frequency>1h,
Night>Enable :12am6am (b/c I am asleep but if I am on, user takes priority),
Apps>Enable;
Configure>Interactive.
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Also, don't forget that our Vibrant's screens are huge power drainers. Keeping it on a lower brightness level helps save a lot of battery. Hope this helps!
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By the way, whenever you flash a new rom you are going to want to do a battery re-calibration. This will help excessive battery drain. However you only need to do it once when you flash a new rom! Use this app to easily do a re-calibration.... http://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=battery+calibration+nema
Here are some screenies to give you an idea of how JD+ can be set up. Noob, thanks for the tag, buddy.
+1 on the screen settings too. Plus when you are pulling on-line music for extended time and notice the phone getting hot, it isn't all the processor, it is the screen that is causing some of the heat. Hence my enable/off for MLB or Tune-in in the shots below.
Noob, thanks for the tag, buddy.
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No problem, bro.
Which version of Lithium were you running? Try Prime 360 (Miui 2.3.7). With heavy usage, I usually get around 16-20 hrs. With light usage, I had 29hrs with it. Let your battery drain, fully recharge and you should have remarkable results.
I tried NB-360 ROM, it had decent battery life, with many battery saving features included, but it didn't compare to Prime if you need longevity out of your battery. It currently uses the Neo R18 Kernel.
Let me know how it goes.
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Question for all GB users, which is a pretty high number here. I ran MIUI Lithium and loved it except the battery was pathetic. I can deal with generally bad battery life since i came from an HD7 but it got out of hand. Anyway since there are a lot of GB roms out there and pretty active i suppose a lot of u found a way to handle it better. How do you u GB users get the most out of battery on a GB ROM? (ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
please share your setup since it can help a lot of others that want to manage battery better
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So my Setup is basically running CM7 (with 2.3.7), and having a kernel which supports something called "undervolting"
right now, I have a kernel called glitch kernel.. which basically gives me an app where i can set my own custom voltages (like undervolting it -50 mv from the original voltage). THis can help save TONS of battery, but always refer to your kernel guide on how low to set the voltage.
We don't want any bootloops or bricks now do we
I also use an app (in conjunction with my kernel) called screen filter. This dims the LEDS inside youe phone individually so it saves a ton of battery.
i get 1.5 days on full charge listening to music and going on the internet constantly
thanks a million guys. im currently running cm7 stable and flashed glitch v13 kernel. set leakage to medium (honestly still dont understand the difference very well) and undervolted like you guys recommended. ill see how battery treats me.
^^ BTW i had Lithium 11/11/11 update with default kernel
If i see a significant increase in battery, ill give MIUI a go again with Prime since it seems to have good battery. Ill keep u updated, thanks again
Edit: quick question. is it true that the solid white colors still kill much more battery with our screens? or was it mostly a first gen amoled issue?
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update: glitch v13 with undervolting really did the trick!!! after a full work day on which on a GB rom my phone would be begging for mercy with about 20% remaining more or less, today i finished with just over 70%, and that was after i realized that the undervolting settings did not stick after boot when i unplugged it and i applied it again (my phone was at 90% when i did this)
speechless...
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I haven't been using stock ROMs for a while, and am now currently on AOKP JB, which is awesome. But I've recently had the need to be out of the house for an extended period of time, and i really need a ROM with good battery life.
So quick question, which GSM (or CDMA with GSM-patch) ROM gives the best battery life? I'm more inclined to think stock, and I've read that 676.226.3.en.EU gives really decent battery life. Or is there a better alternative?
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I haven't been using stock ROMs for a while, and am now currently on AOKP JB, which is awesome. But I've recently had the need to be out of the house for an extended period of time, and i really need a ROM with good battery life.
So quick question, which ROM gives the best battery life? I'm more inclined to think stock, and I've read that 676.226.3.en.EU gives really decent battery life. Or is there a better alternative?
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Ive been using the simplex rom it has overclock and underclock scripts built in I have been on it for a few days and got 5hrs of screen on and 19hrs of power overclocked with 25% battery still left. Currently I am running underclocked to 1.0 GHZ to see how long Battery will last and sitting at 13hrs on battery and 4.5hrs screen on time and have 44% battery I think I'm doing well!!! No bugs yet either!!
SimpleX is for CDMA right? My bad, I should have specified that I was using a GSM phone.
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SimpleX is for CDMA right? My bad, I should have specified that I was using a GSM phone.
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i'm using magicmod rom, coupled with tasker to turn on 3g only when using data intensive apps like browser,youtube etc.. the rest of the time i have data enabled but 2g, and the battery only goes down about 2-3% a night, that's about 2-3% for 8 hours..
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!
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Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing
I gotta give this a try
A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.
I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.
This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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hello everybody
the question is simple..... i have a E790 and i want a Rom, kernel, mod or configuration for best battery life... any suggestions?
Slick V3 plus MEs kernel. Lower min clock speed and use badass governor. I've never had anything better. I'm currently using MEs EG8 ROM, which I like better, but battery life is slightly less then when I used Slick.
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x-geo said:
hello everybody
the question is simple..... i have a E790 and i want a Rom, kernel, mod or configuration for best battery life... any suggestions?
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Best configuration for extended battery life = power off when not in active use.
Not trying to be a jerk here, but while stating that question is simple, the answer most certainly isn't. There are a huge number of factors that play into battery life, and you haven't provided any info at all to us to provide good answer.
The answer depends on how you use the device. Do you need extended idle time but not high performance? underclock, undervolt, freeze all your background apps. Do you have lots of stuff running in the background? Try greenify paid with xposed features. Do you want the most possible screen on time? drop your brightness as low as you can stand it. Run in Airplane mode. Are you in a crappy service area? Turn off cell radio and use Wifi only.
We don't know what you need for connectivity, or how you use the device, or what apps you run, or anything else. We need tons more info to try to chase battery life. We don't know what will constitute "acceptable" performance, to you, when down-tuning processor speeds and brightness and things. These are all things you need to experiment with to find what works best for you.
In general, I've found that for my use-case, the new 4.3 ROMs are marginally better on battery life than prior versions. I typically get about 4 hours screen on time, with around 20 hours up-time, and minimal phone calls (15min per day or so) and end up having 15-20% battery left when I put the phone on the charger. In moderate use, I look for wakelocks to be roughly twice my screen on time. I don't run much processor intensive stuff, the majority of my awake time is spent at minimum clock speed.
Min screen brightness
x-geo said:
hello everybody
the question is simple..... i have a E790 and i want a Rom, kernel, mod or configuration for best battery life... any suggestions?
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Min screen brightness, lower timeout, eco mode, task killer, data off and airplane mode at the office (or school or whenever you use "silent mode" instead)
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Min screen brightness, lower timeout, eco mode, task killer, data off and airplane mode at the office (or school or whenever you use "silent mode" instead)
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Be very careful with task killers. If you try to kill stuff that auto restarts, you will end up causing battery draining start / kill loops. In general task killers haven't been necessary since gingerbread.
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Be very careful with task killers. If you try to kill stuff that auto restarts, you will end up causing battery draining start / kill loops. In general task killers haven't been necessary since gingerbread.
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As stated before, the 4.3 roms seem to have better battery life then the previous versions.
Certain apps can help with battery life as well. "Tasker" can be setup to disable functions when not needed.
"SetCPU" can be used to setup profiles to change min/max frequencies and change governors when certain conditions are met... this can also be done with Tasker but requires a good understanding of Tasker functions.
"Greenify" is also a good app. It will hibernate apps that you choose. This can prevent certain apps from running in the backround until you actually use them.
Turn off animations
Turn off animations and transitions, keep the minimum amount of widgets and location services from social apps
Kernel Confusion
Dear Concern,
m using AT&T LG Optimus G (e970), i just rooted my phone and unlocked my bootloader. the confusion m having ritenow is
m about to install the new custom rom in my phone but m confused about the kernel thing that ppl used to talk here .. my current software information is
Android Version :: 4.1.2
Kernel Version ::: 3.4.0
Software Version : E97020J
Can anyone guide me if i need to flash kernel while installing the custom roms *4.4.2*, and what are the risks?
is it necessary to flash kernel or not ??
Regards.
Moiz
Its not necessary to flash separate kernel..custom ROMs come with embedded kernels sometimes modified from existing kernels,such as mizry's AK kernel...flashing separate kernels are optional
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