[Q] s2 vs s3 gaming - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

if you overclock s2 gpu would it be on par with s3 gaming performence? or is quad core s3 better than dual core s2 when it comes to high end games. cause i seen asphalt 8 lag on s3 while it didnt on s2

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Of course quad core is better.. it lags maybe because the person playing has app running in the background.
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ian619420 said:
if you overclock s2 gpu would it be on par with s3 gaming performence? or is quad core s3 better than dual core s2 when it comes to high end games. cause i seen asphalt 8 lag on s3 while it didnt on s2
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long story short no, the main problem is on thermal issue and games optimization
when you talking about games, it's not about the processor. It's about the gpu and the screen resolution,the overclocked mali on s3 doesnt have enough muscle to drive the 720p screen(only applied to heavy effect gameloft games). Some new games is optimized for S3 tough, like Horn for example, Its lag on S2 but not on S3.
in term on gaming , i only see note 3 as a worthy upgrade from S2

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amdultra said:
long story short no, the main problem is on thermal issue and games optimization
when you talking about games, it's not about the processor. It's about the gpu and the screen resolution,the overclocked mali on s3 doesnt have enough muscle to drive the 720p screen(only applied to heavy effect gameloft games). Some new games is optimized for S3 tough, like Horn for example, Its lag on S2 but not on S3.
in term on gaming , i only see note 3 as a worthy upgrade from S2
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Any snapdragon 600/800 can handle hi-end graphics cuz these monstruous cpus come with a powerfull gpu that handles 1080p flawlessly
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Can anyone tell me the sequence for gpu(mali adreno powervr tegra and etc) from the highest to the lowest?
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alvster said:
Can anyone tell me the sequence for gpu(mali adreno powervr tegra and etc) from the highest to the lowest?
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search gfxbench
on android there are many things to consider if you want to play high end games.
the screen resolusion
the rom
the kernel
the game developer optimization
for example gta 3 is more smooth on tegra 3 than adreno 320,because the game is more optimized on tegra

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amdultra said:
long story short no, the main problem is on thermal issue and games optimization
when you talking about games, it's not about the processor. It's about the gpu and the screen resolution,the overclocked mali on s3 doesnt have enough muscle to drive the 720p screen(only applied to heavy effect gameloft games). Some new games is optimized for S3 tough, like Horn for example, Its lag on S2 but not on S3.
in term on gaming , i only see note 3 as a worthy upgrade from S2
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Overclocked? S3 has 2 more GPU cores vs S2's Mali ,not overclocked alone.
Gaming is not a problem on my s3 at least ,GPU drivers are continuously being updated by Samsung I9300XXUGMK6 for example has the latest driver.
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http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?D1=...T-i9100+Galaxy+S+II+(SHW-M250,+SC-02C)&cols=2
S3 does better in most onscreen tests(which takes resolution difference in regard)
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned ASV4 a.k.a Prime) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
1st ROM:Temasek CM11 4.4,Art runtime,R3p2 Mali drivers *Zero Lag*
2nd ROM : Samsung 4.3 stock leaked build.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2 dual boot
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i9100g user said:
Overclocked? S3 has 2 more GPU cores vs S2's Mali ,not overclocked alone.
Gaming is not a problem on my s3 at least ,GPU drivers are continuously being updated by Samsung I9300XXUGMK6 for example has the latest driver.
---------- Post added at 10:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 PM ----------
http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?D1=...T-i9100+Galaxy+S+II+(SHW-M250,+SC-02C)&cols=2
S3 does better in most onscreen tests(which takes resolution difference in regard)
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned ASV4 a.k.a Prime) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
1st ROM:Temasek CM11 4.4,Art runtime,R3p2 Mali drivers *Zero Lag*
2nd ROM : Samsung 4.3 stock leaked build.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2 dual boot
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logic?
mali 400 have max 4 core ,if S3 have more 2 cores than mali 400 on S2 then you can say is mali 400 mp6, is there mali 400 mp6? no , go email arm mr smartass
S3 mali 400 gpu MP4 is the same as S2 only overclocked
it's faster because it's overclocked and better 32nm process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

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amdultra said:
logic?
mali 400 have max 4 core ,if S3 have more 2 cores than mali 400 on S2 then you can say is mali 400 mp6, is there mali 400 mp6? no , go email arm mr smartass
S3 mali 400 gpu MP4 is the same as S2 only overclocked
it's faster because it's overclocked and better 32nm process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Thanks for the heads up.
I had read somewhere that 4210 has mali400mp2.
So it looks like the newer process gives the 4412 enough headroom for a higher clocked GPU (and maybe some micro architectural improvements?)
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logic?
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But still the onscreen performance of S3 is more than S2 in gfx benchmark ,which certainly proves that the mali400 in S3 does better than the one in S2 even though it has to push 2.4 times the pixels.
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned AS4) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
ROM:Temasek CM11 ,Art runtime.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2

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i9100g user said:
Thanks for the heads up.
I had read somewhere that 4210 has mali400mp2.
So it looks like the newer process gives the 4412 enough headroom for a higher clocked GPU (and maybe some micro architectural improvements?)
But still the onscreen performance of S3 is more than S2 in gfx benchmark ,which certainly proves that the mali400 in S3 does better than the one in S2 even though it has to push 2.4 times the pixels.
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned AS4) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
ROM:Temasek CM11 ,Art runtime.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2
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it's faster because it's overclocked. You better read anandtech galaxy s2 international review about mali gpu architecture, all the answer for your question is in there.

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amdultra said:
it's faster because it's overclocked. You better read anandtech galaxy s2 international review about mali gpu architecture, all the answer for your question is in there.
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You can overclock s2 like s3 to 440mhz ,but it won't yield same results due to thermal/power constraints (45nm vs 32nm)
Also mali400(in s3) can be over clocked to 700mhz stably which shows that there is a lot of headroom left in s3.
Everything aside,my point is S3 scores more than S2 in on screen Gfxbench which does prove that S3 does better than S2 in reality.
(This is what OP asked)
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned AS4) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
ROM:Temasek CM11 ,Art runtime.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2

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ian619420 said:
if you overclock s2 gpu would it be on par with s3 gaming performence? or is quad core s3 better than dual core s2 when it comes to high end games. cause i seen asphalt 8 lag on s3 while it didnt on s2
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i9100g user said:
You can overclock s2 like s3 to 440mhz ,but it won't yield same results due to thermal/power constraints (45nm vs 32nm)
Also mali400(in s3) can be over clocked to 700mhz stably which shows that there is a lot of headroom left in s3.
Everything aside,my point is S3 scores more than S2 in on screen Gfxbench which does prove that S3 does better than S2 in reality.
(This is what OP asked)
Device: Galaxy S3 3G ,GT-I9300
CPU:Exynos 4412 Prime (Binned AS4) ,200-1000Mhz,UV,ZZMOVE battery governor
GPU:Mali 400MP4,54-350Mhz,UV
ROM:Temasek CM11 ,Art runtime.
Kernel: Devil kernel 2
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it may be better in benchmark, but the fill rate still not enough for the 720p screen,especially in real life case.
maybe you can overclock the gpu to 533mhz, play asphalt 8 in max setting and share the fps perfomance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_w-EZifjU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LorZHr9MErk

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Looking at the date it was posted (that video) that s3 must have been running old 4.1 firmware.
performance has increased by ~30% in GPU benchmarks and
maybe even more in real gaming from 4.2 onwards (which have the latest Mali drivers).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124093
I am done with gaming right now but from my experience ,with latest Mali drivers asphalt 8 was smooth(Maxed out) except for one stage which was I think was the Tokyo race where fps averaged about 20fps (S2 lagged in that stage too).
And rip tide GP2 was smooth throughout with no lag and fps averaged around 52 (used fps meter from play store )
Gaming was a pain before 4.2 ,but right now it isn't for the most part(CPU throttling down to 800mhz )
No other game in my memory lagged usually I keep CPU at 1300mhz and with some undervolting (to decrease throttling )
and GPU at 350mhz (that's right Riptide GP2 was smooth at the frequency) but for asphalt 8 440-533mhz and maybe 700mhz when I come across a game which really lags.(Again 700mhz is stable ,no crashes or instability only battery drains pretty fast.)
Actually fillrate has been the strong part for Mali 400 gpu.