I didn't see a thread about this yet so I thought I'd make one for us to relay our experiences with different micro USB 3.0 B cables, our Galaxy Note 3 phones, and the various cases we may have tried them with.
First off, the stock Samsung cable is the smallest and lowest-profile microUSB 3.0 B cable I've seen yet, which is important because the bulkier ones are just more prominent protrusions begging to get bents or broken, damaging the connected device with it. The problem is that all the Note 3 cases act like it's a proprietary cable and they only need to design around it instead of aiming to fit a wide variety of standard cables. So far mine has not received any excessive force from any cable, but it's a concern I always have with many USB devices (USB drive in a notebook, for example). I have found that even with the stock cable the port in the phone itself frequently needs to be blown out. At least three times I have found my phone plugged in and not charging with a connection being very hard to achieve and maintain (momentarily connects when tweaked) until I blow in the port (then it's rock-solid for another week+). My port has never been forced or damaged and it does it with every cable I try until I blow, so I know that we are dealing with contamination or oxidation. The first time was before it had ever had any other cable used with it.
Next up: the Amazon Basics Premium cable.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...8&qid=1386737410&sr=8-4&keywords=USB3.0+Micro
My first one was DOA and didn't work at all unless you held it at a strange angle. The replacement worked as reliably as the original but it is too thick and bulky. I often have trouble finding a place and orientation to lay my phone when using it that doesn't put too much stress on the cable/connectors. It is NOT the kind of cable you want to carry around in your pocket or use in the car. I don't even like using it with my laptop so it's going to be my desktop charge and transfer cable exclusively. Even the connectors are bulky. Luckily, the rubber-like material around the port in my Slim Armor case flexes enough that it fits fine. Same for the Unicorn Beetle Sup Case. I still need to try my Bear Motion/Poetic bumper case and the slim Caseology case.
Even when not using USB3's faster transfer and charging features, I still prefer using it over a microUSB 2.0 B cable because it seems safer to spread the load over a bigger connector if it gets accidentally tweaked. I've repaired enough traditional microUSB 2.0 B connectors on phone PCBs and I do not want to risk damaging an MHL 3.0 version! It seems to me that a right-angle connector would be safer as it would not protrude away from the device and the cable has the chance to run along the device's exterior structure until it is far enough away to absorb and relieve most tension that would move it independently from the device. For this reason I intend to get a right-angle mUSB3 cablemy notebook that I often use in bed. So far the only one I have found is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141133546501?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I missed the auction but I'm prowling for another and I will report my experience here.
I also wonder if this cable can charge faster from a typical dual-port car charger:
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-dual...&qid=1386737410&sr=8-13&keywords=USB3.0+Micro
I've also ordered a couple TYLT Vu wireless charging stands and the official Samsung wireless charging back to minimize my use of the port, so it looks like I'm switching to the bumper case (only one that fits the official cover). I should get a dust cover/plug for the port so that I won't have to blow it out when I do finally use it.
Another strange issue I had even with the stock cable was that it would disconnect and reconnect in USB 2.0 mode almost as soon as I enabled USB 3.0 mode and started transferring. Possibly important circumstances: I was trying to rip some 1080p video samples to check out on my first 1080p phone so I started ripping a couple BD movies to my Alienware M11x r3 (AnyDVD + Handbrake). 1080p files are large, so I figured it was as good a time as any to try to get slightly faster transfer speeds with USB3. This notebook has no optical drive so I made the rips using an external USB-powered BD drive plugged into the other USB3.0 port. It was a slimline EIDE drive in a USB2.0 enclosure, so there was a mix of USB2.0 and 3.0 devices connected to the two USB3.0 ports. When the first rip finished I started the second rip and then enabled USB3.0 on the phone to start transferring the first rip. After the problem repeated itself I tried changing cables and the problem remained. It worked fine when I tried again with only the phone connected. If that's expected behavior with a mix of 2.0 and 3.0 devices then I would have expected it to happen immediately instead of waiting until after I started a file transfer. Edit: It happened again this morning but I now know it happens even in USB2.0 mode. The BD drive was ripping while connected to the PC's native USB2.0 port and the phone was connected to one of the two USB 3.0 ports. It disconnected as soon as I started the transfer in USB3.0 mode so I restarted in 2.0 mode and it did the same thing. I had to wait for the encode to finish, so it looks like it has something to do with the MTP connection not being stable while the CPU is busy. Stupid.
I finally tried the Amazon Basics Premium micro USB 3.0 cable with the Bear Motion / Poetic bumper case and it can be made to fit. Unlike the others, you can't just push it in and expect the materials to flex enough to allow it. You have to work it in or else the material gets between the plug and the phone and prevents full insertion. I don't think it matters but I am using the official Samsung wireless charge cover battery door, which is why I switched back to the bumper case.
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not sure if this justifies a topic of its own but i have kind of wrecked my hp charger cable by using it to charge my phone
i can only assume that the socket on my htc incredible S is tighter or something because the micro usb end wiggles around so much in my touchpad now it doesnt maintain a connection unless i apply pressure in a certain direction!
so just to let you all know, its probably best to keep your hp cable for your touchpad!
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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cant argue with that totally agree with the touchstone, oh if the tp was able to pull 2 amps that way though..
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A switching mode power supply (pretty much all newer chargers) will put out its rated voltage as long as the current draw is equal to or less than its max spec. There is a slight variation between chargers output voltage but a few tenths of a volt won't do any damage.
I have charged all sorts of devices using the TP charger without issue. My Sansa Clip using a miniUSB cord, my Droid 3 using the HP cord. The microUSB plug is a standard so ports should be the same on all devices, but I really like miniUSB better. It seems like a more robust connection than micro which feels too small and flimsy.
My charger has a usb socket so I was able to swap out the micro usb charger - can you not do that?
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oh yea, obv i can just change the cable, and quite cheaply, but was just letting people know that the slot on the touchpad must be quite big relative to other devices (though i can only vouch for my incredible S).
i'll have to buy a new cable now, though - no biggy
Sand down those spiked nibs that are supposed to hold the cable in place, they are too big to be needed and cause extra wear and tear on the units usb socket.
Taking them down to about 50% size and making them not so sharp gives the cable a good fit where it wont come out easy but its not like pulling teeth.
I learned this with my N900 lots of users did it, and now I noticed the touchpad had the same kind of fit and cable, so I consider this a necessity if you want to prolong the life of your device and minimize the possibility of something happening like what happened to the OP, atleast for him it was the cable that gave out and not the micro sub port on his TP.
my cable stopped working a while ago so im just using my samsung and htc cable,samsung cable is a real nice fit better than the TP one.
The supplied TP cable is just a flimsy POS. I've bought dollar store cables that were higher quality.
I use the TP charger and the cable that came with my phone to charge both devices. I've been doing it for months with no ill effects to the phone.
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Micro USB is a horrid and fragile setup to begin with.
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yup my usb cable doesnt work anymore. I accidentally tripped over it lol
LOL good thing i bought 3 HP touchpad chargers over the weekend.
I actually lost the stock one.. so i 'stocked' up... just in case
Just FYI, the default AC adapter that comes with the TP has two parts.
The front part rotates to separate it from the base, if it's rotated a bit - it won't charge, so double check that the front (where the prongs are) are tightened properly.
Mine's developed the same fault using it on my Galaxy S2, it's now loose on all devices and I had to throw it away. I just think the quality's poor.
The HP cable for my TP stopped charging the device too, got in touch with support and a day later I received a shiny new replacement cable which *isn't* loose
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my usb cable stopped working too (yesterday).
Well, it works but i need to hold the cable in a particular way or it stops.
Did any of you buy a replacement? if ya which one.
Hmmm, I got the touchstone and haven't used the USB since, unless plugging in to the computer to move an update.zip over. Still tight fit, and with rom I'm running touchstone seems to charge the same as the actual charger that came with touchpad.
It is actually a fact that the stock USB cables are of poor quality. So ultimately its not your fault if it goes bad. Just use another micro USB cable (even cheap ones you find at the convenience stores works great) to charge your touchpad. I've been using my micro USB which came with my phone to charge my touchpad and I must say its a perfect fit for the touchpad.
Trying to find out if there is such a thing as going from extmicro usb that the evo and flyer have to a usb type A (or any other normal usb).
Need a right angle to plug into tablet for car install and found that I can fit a microb angled cable into the tablet, but now need to take the car charges extusb and get an adapter to hook it all together.
You can just buy a regular micro USB extended cable. It fits in the flyer/view charge port.
Proprietary cable is the one on the right. Regular micro USB on left.
I am installing the tablet in dash of a car.
I have the oem car charger because its only one with right voltage. But I need a angled usb for clearance issues. So im trying to figure a way to go from the charger EXTMICRO usb to the angled usb.
Searched around and have come up completely empty.
I'm working on the same project and found this thread searching (again) for more info on extusb. The solution I came up with for getting enough clearance to use the port requires disassembly and if you plan on keeping the warranty, it's probably not a good option for you.
Anyway, my solution was to make some small right-angle brackets for the pcb that contains the extusb port. It requires material for the angle brackets and two small screws with nuts. See attached for a better idea.
I actually got the tablet installed and fairly well, but have since removed it to come up with better designs for charging, access to the power button (and possibly volume buttons) for recovery actions, turning the screen on/off with ignition, and potentially microphone relocation.
You may want to check out http://www.dealextreme.com/ for right-angle and other adapters if you don't want to open up the tablet.
PS: Protect that screen. The plastic is very soft and will easily scratch.
I don't follow.
I thought the HTC car charger was a plug with a USB port in it just like all the others. I thought this might help, but I probably have no idea what you're really looking for
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-Right-Angled-Micro/dp/B005EV2LAM
If you *need* to use the 12pin micro usb that the view has (which from my understanding was only there for the docking station utility), then you might be out of luck unless you can build something yourself.
Im looking for a cable like you linked to, but then I need a way to connect the flyers car charger special usb tip into it. Only way I can think of is to carefully grind the corners so that it will fit into a micro B female connection.
But the chargers are not cheap and if I F*** it up Im out $30
On a kia soul forum where others are planning on doing the same install with the flyer, one guy has come accross a company that makes custom cables. He said that if We send the car charger to them they will replace the usb tip with a micro B 90 degree angle for $25.
So A person is sending the charger to them to have it done and is going to let us know how it comes out.
jacobbones, can you provide a link to the kia soul flyer thread?
Yes, here it is.
http://www.soulhamsters.com/forum/i...ale-again-24feb-7-android-tablet-199-shipped/
Talk about the custom job is near the end of the posts
opening up the car charger and replacing the cable is incredibly simple. I have done it so many times, I can probably do it blindfolded. I actually had to go and replace the OEM chargers cable with the USB cable that it came with because my damn dog chewed threw the charger cable. Didn't come back very pretty, but it works, that charger has got the be the best charger built I have ever seen, incredibly difficult to open, but I'm sure the car charger is a lot easier to open, you just need a soldering gun and it should be easy.
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I have a MHL Adapter and I get video just fine. Now I want to be able to sit on my couch while i use the adapter. Seems to me the simplest way would be to use a 15-20 foot Micro USB Male - Micro USB Female extension cable.
Does anyone have any experience with such a setup? Do you have a recommendation for such a cable?
TIA!!
Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
I guess the thought was that if I have the Micro USB Extension, then it's one thin lightweight wire that has to travel across the floor.
If I did HDMI, I'd still have to be near power whereas with Micro USB, I could set the power adapter, and HDMI, and MHL Adapter all together and then have a thin and lightweight wire traveling across the floor.
But if it's not possible, (micro USB limitiation??) then HDMI it would have to be.
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Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
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If the micro USB works it would be much cheaper than a comparable length hdmi cord.
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I would test http://www.amazon.com/Extender-over-CAT5E-CAT6-connection/dp/B003L14ZTC this. It's hard to get cheaper than cat5e.
Just bought 10 feet on amazon! Lovely!
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I wanted to do exactly this - extend the cable but at the micro-USB end to avoid having the Micro-usb power supply line and the bulky MHL adaptor all where the phone is - much cleaner to just have a thin cable coming out of the phone and headed towards the TV.
I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
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I, too have been trying to figure out why an extension cable doesn't work the way you think it might. Today, I tried cutting my 6 foot cable, first making sure I had the right power leads working. Then I went through all the possible combinations of connections to see if one would work. None do. I'm at a complete loss on this wondering what I should try next.
Thanks for info....similarly baffled but at least you have ruled out something!
Like the other guy said, get your x for of hdmi cable, then just plug your AC charger in where you are. Mhl might use additional connectors/pins/whatever vs micro USB. Or you can go totally wireless and use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
Also I remember I had a charging issue with an extension. Sometimes one product works better than others. I can't charge my phone with my 20 dollar AC charger from best buy since the ICS leak. It's weird. Hdmi cables are pretty uniform, I would just extend that.
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Yes, that works, always has, but that's not the point. Would rather have just one long cable connected to the phone in front of the TV rather than three cables, the device and the phone in a kludge setup.
A partial answer
This allows connecting 6 feet away with a thin, flexible single cable..Also cheap, but shipping takes 15 days.
goo.gl/NzCik
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I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
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I took apart the two cables and the USB has four wires while the MHL cable has ten.
are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
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The Micro B USB connector only has 5 connections, so there is no way you can connect 10 from the MHL cable to it, so something else is going on.
pinoutsguide.com/PortableDevices/micro_usb_pinout.shtml
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are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
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I bought splices and thought about extending the cable. It's possible.
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I did wanted to do the same but the extension cable didn't work. I looked at the connecting points and felt that the micro usb from Mel adaptor is to bit longer than usual so I thought that may be the reason and I shorten it resulting damaging my Mel adaptor itself. Now I am going for allshare cast wireless hub. So everyone please don't try to cut the micro usb pin from your adaptor or u will better decide to for my option to for complete flexibility.
I want to do this EXACT same thing but slightly more extreme:
I want an MHL adapter with 10-25 feet of micro USB cable on the end so I can use it from anywhere in my living room.
Is there any such cable/adapter?
Why do all MHL adapters come with only a 5 inch cable??? It is maddening!
*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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Get a different MHL adapter. I use an adapter close to the one 7 posts up by hedaleth with my kenwood system in my truck.
I recently broke my Rezound's cable. Not the end of the world because the regular USB cables that pretty much all other phones use works. However it does have me wondering about the point of the special design. I can get a regular micro USB cable for $.99 on ebay but the specific rezound cable looks like it's around $6. Is it worth paying more to get it?
It's also Mini HDMI and designed that way to prevent port erosion too, actually a marvelous idea. It's a standard Micro USB port that you're acessibg for charging and data transfer though. Its made to have a regular micro USB cable used with it. Poor guy you've been strapped to that one cable the whole time you've had the phone?
I would get a high quality cable, and there's inexpensive ones, but there's no difference to the phone if your micro USB has the special socket on the end besides added strength but it's almost as strong with a regular micro USB. The crumby cheap cables that cause premature wear on the female USB port is what you want to avoid, the male plug wears down and then there's slack so you get extra movement which causes bending and flexing of the port at the board.
I bought a really solid, kind of expensive well reviewed cable on Amazon but the ends are extra long which causes the outer housing not to sit against the side of the phone and function as a brace, even on my girls night stand it started getting slack sooner than I wanted and showing wear.
My next order will be a batch of HTC OEM cables, they're just so solid and well made, but there are great aftermarket ones for 99 cents if you can find them and check them out in person or get recommendations. Window shopping online is a crap shoot, as far as generic stuff.
But yeah, definitely go with a good micro USB, no need for the special end for what you're doing with it especially if you're careful with your phone.
If you use your phone while it's charging and it's getting pressure on the USB cable and port, a ton of movement, or laid on top of often the rez charger (also on the HTC Incredible and other devices) might offer some advantages, that would be the only reason.
I'd spend $6 on an HTC cable, but I'd get a regular micro USB cable so I could use it with other devices too.
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I came across this Kickstarter. It seems like a great idea. I backed it. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1041610927/znaps-the-9-magnetic-adapter-for-your-mobile-devic
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I think I'll be backing this as well. I would love to have one on my wireless car charger as well so I can easily switch the USB cable from the charger to my N6 if I need to charge faster and not have to fumble with the cable.
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It looks like it can be a real pain to remove if you want to use someone else's cable to charge. Either that or you're going to be carrying your own cable everywhere or carry the cable adapter and risk/probably lose it.
I feel like this is going to be outdated technology when apple introduces something along the lines of there own wireless charger + bluetooth syncing. Apple has 'pioneered' this in the laptops for a while. They also 'invented' the iphones. I'm sure they thought of putting the magnetic ends to it since they also love creating there unique connectors. There's a few reasons why a small magnetic connector like that wouldn't work. For one, the magnetic strength isn't going to be good. It already sucks on the current 'v2' of the mag connector.
USB-C, or 3.1, can easily support a 2amp current to a Qi Charger in addition to carrying data from a bluetooth transmitter to send data back to the host/computer device. That or the phone can sync via bluetooth directly with the computer.
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It looks like it can be a real pain to remove if you want to use someone else's cable to charge. Either that or you're going to be carrying your own cable everywhere or carry the cable adapter and risk/probably lose it.
I feel like this is going to be outdated technology when apple introduces something along the lines of there own wireless charger + bluetooth syncing. Apple has 'pioneered' this in the laptops for a while. They also 'invented' the iphones. I'm sure they thought of putting the magnetic ends to it since they also love creating there unique connectors. There's a few reasons why a small magnetic connector like that wouldn't work. For one, the magnetic strength isn't going to be good. It already sucks on the current 'v2' of the mag connector.
USB-C, or 3.1, can easily support a 2amp current to a Qi Charger in addition to carrying data from a bluetooth transmitter to send data back to the host/computer device. That or the phone can sync via bluetooth directly with the computer.
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Well its a good idea for people who have a tablet that doesn't support qi charging. I highly doubt crapple will incorporate wireless charging anytime soon considering how slow they were to add NFC. I backed out for my Shield Tablet and the possibility of USB 3.1 Type-C support
24 hours left to back it if you want one
I wonder if it will work if my Unicorn Beetle case has dust flaps
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I wonder if it will work if my Unicorn Beetle case has dust flaps
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You could always cut the end off the cut out a little to make it fit. I already "ordered" mine from their backing website that was set up. I bought 3 USB 3.1 Type-C ones, 3 micro USB connectors, and 2 of each cable adapter along with keychains to hold them when I goto class. My micro USB ones should ship out soon so I'll have to post a review if them when they arrive. I plan to use them on my Nvidia Shield Tablet LTE and my two Nexus 6's