I bought a Samsung 10.1 2014 ed the other day and it is a nice device, however i am saddened by the lack of development that is currently has and that it wont probably in the future because of KNOX. I think my Walmart still has some Nexus 10s and i was thinking of going this route. I am huge stock android guy, currently running it since day 1 on my GS4. I have read reviews and things about browser lag but this was at launch and im sure rooting and running AOSP solves a lot of issues. I also don't feel like waiting for the Nexus 10 2 whenever/whatever that may be.
Any reason why I should not switch over to the Nexus?
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reinert012 said:
I bought a Samsung 10.1 2014 ed the other day and it is a nice device, however i am saddened by the lack of development that is currently has and that it wont probably in the future because of KNOX. I think my Walmart still has some Nexus 10s and i was thinking of going this route. I am huge stock android guy, currently running it since day 1 on my GS4. I have read reviews and things about browser lag but this was at launch and im sure rooting and running AOSP solves a lot of issues. I also don't feel like waiting for the Nexus 10 2 whenever/whatever that may be.
Any reason why I should not switch over to the Nexus?
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Well the note 2014 seems like itd be better to me. It's got the s pen for notes and more ram. The gpad 8.3 is a good choice if you don't mind the smaller size. They also have a Google play edition so you'll have such android. I would switch for a gpad 8.3 if I could just to try something new though I'm perfectly fine with my nexus 10. With KitKat it's nice and smooth and everything works great for me.
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Well the note 2014 seems like itd be better to me. It's got the s pen for notes and more ram. The gpad 8.3 is a good choice if you don't mind the smaller size. They also have a Google play edition so you'll have such android. I would switch for a gpad 8.3 if I could just to try something new though I'm perfectly fine with my nexus 10. With KitKat it's nice and smooth and everything works great for me.
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I'll never use the S-Pen unfortunately. Now i'm really torn between Nexus 10 and LG G Pad 8.3 Google Play edition
I had a Note 10.1 2014 for about 12 hours but sent it back, it had a malfunctioning backlight that's too common. I was going to root it, Knox or not, after a few weeks once I had established the hardware seemed ok so it was less of a risk voiding the warranty. I returned it and decided to go a used N10 route.
I didn't think I'd use the S-Pen, and upon playing with it more I pretty much confirmed it. I thought that, even not using the S-Pen, the specs themselves were worth the upgrade over the Nexus 10. And, if you're not afraid to root and take out a ton of the crap, run a different launcher, it may actually be. But I have fairly sharp eyes and could see the Pentile subpixel arrangement, and after already being indecisive about dropping that much on a tablet I was going to ruin the warranty on, it just was too much.
As an alternative to Walmart you can go the Amazon route. They have been up and down on their prices and were generally at the $400 mark until pulling back up to $450-ish. I know our Wal-Mart still has the Nexus 10 at full price, so going the Amazon route would save you a little bit of money. As I posted in another thread, if you're willing to go used you can get a far better deal, usually in the low $300's for a 32gb version.
There is also the Asus Transformer TF701. It has its own list of shortcomings but might be a viable alternative if you don't think you'll be bothered by them. It's priced new at $430 now.
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I had a Note 10.1 2014 for about 12 hours but sent it back, it had a malfunctioning backlight that's too common. I was going to root it, Knox or not, after a few weeks once I had established the hardware seemed ok so it was less of a risk voiding the warranty. I returned it and decided to go a used N10 route.
I didn't think I'd use the S-Pen, and upon playing with it more I pretty much confirmed it. I thought that, even not using the S-Pen, the specs themselves were worth the upgrade over the Nexus 10. And, if you're not afraid to root and take out a ton of the crap, run a different launcher, it may actually be. But I have fairly sharp eyes and could see the Pentile subpixel arrangement, and after already being indecisive about dropping that much on a tablet I was going to ruin the warranty on, it just was too much.
As an alternative to Walmart you can go the Amazon route. They have been up and down on their prices and were generally at the $400 mark until pulling back up to $450-ish. I know our Wal-Mart still has the Nexus 10 at full price, so going the Amazon route would save you a little bit of money. As I posted in another thread, if you're willing to go used you can get a far better deal, usually in the low $300's for a 32gb version.
There is also the Asus Transformer TF701. It has its own list of shortcomings but might be a viable alternative if you don't think you'll be bothered by them. It's priced new at $430 now.
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thanks for the very helpful reply. I do have mine rooted but i am going to unroot it today and set the counter back to 0.
If you look at reviews like android authority they seem to think the lg gpad is the best tablet ever made though a bit expensive for its size range.
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If you look at reviews like android authority they seem to think the lg gpad is the best tablet ever made though a bit expensive for its size range.
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If i go this route it will be Google Play ed.
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If you look at reviews like android authority they seem to think the lg gpad is the best tablet ever made though a bit expensive for its size range.
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Just picked up my Nexus 10....definitely like the Note better.
I told you the note would be better. It has better specs and it's newer. The only thing bad about it is touchwiz. But it's also costs much more than the nexus 10 (100 dollars right?) So you should probably switch back unless you want to try the lg gpad which looks really appealing
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I told you the note would be better. It has better specs and it's newer. The only thing bad about it is touchwiz. But it's also costs much more than the nexus 10 (100 dollars right?) So you should probably switch back unless you want to try the lg gpad which looks really appealing
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I am going to return it to Walmart today, it was $499 for the 32gb, they didn't have the 16gb. But yes, the LG GPad GPE looks so sexy, but i was on an iPad mini yesterday and i don't think id like the smaller screen. Think i'll stick with the note.
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I am going to return it to Walmart today, it was $499 for the 32gb, they didn't have the 16gb. But yes, the LG GPad GPE looks so sexy, but i was on an iPad mini yesterday and i don't think id like the smaller screen. Think i'll stick with the note.
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Well that's good choice. How big is the I pad mini though? I don't think the 8 inches is too bad. You can try checking out the normal lg gpad at the store since they're the same mostly besides the software.
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Well that's good choice. How big is the I pad mini though? I don't think the 8 inches is too bad. You can try checking out the normal lg gpad at the store since they're the same mostly besides the software.
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Ipad mini is 7.9. For me, anything between 4.7" (or other reasonably sized phone screens, reasonably doesn't include 5.5+) and 10" is a waste of time IMO. I had the OG N7 for almost a year and liked it for playing games because it was easy to hold. Other than that, I hated it. The screen is entirely too cramped and I might as well just be using my phone. The 8" tablets are only moderately better.
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Hello Android forums,
I am looking for a tablet to replace my aging Prestigio tablet, and there are 2 options that I have narrowed it down to; they are the Nexus 10 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.
I start Sixth Form in September and so the Note 10.1 would be useful for me to jot down quick notes and ideas, but is it worth paying £499 when the only benefit is the S-Pen. The price difference between the Note 10.1 and Nexus 10 is approximately £180 which means that I would buy a 16GB Nexus 7 with the money and take that to school with me. So is it worth paying £180 more for tainted Android but the S Pen or should I get a Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 with approximately £20 left over to purchase student stuff?
Many Thanks
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If you're willing to spend that much money go for the Note, it's note-taking abilities are undefeated. It's so satisying to use.
Do not buy two devices, you'll regret it because it's overkill. I would suggest a Nexus 7 if you're going to take it with you to college. It's ultra portable and stock Android is faster and more fluid. There is quite the selection of note-taking apps, so check the Play Store for one that fits your needs and go for the Nexus 7. If not, go for the Note. They're both a good choice.
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If you're willing to spend that much money go for the Note, it's note-taking abilities are undefeated. It's so satisying to use.
Do not buy two devices, you'll regret it because it's overkill. I would suggest a Nexus 7 if you're going to take it with you to college. It's ultra portable and stock Android is faster and more fluid. There is quite the selection of note-taking apps, so check the Play Store for one that fits your needs and go for the Nexus 7. If not, go for the Note. They're both a good choice.
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Hi Robin2,
Thanks for the reply!
That was my initial instinct, that note taking would be easier with the note because after using my friends Note 2 and S Pen, I loved it and loved how easy it is to use. My brother has a N7 and as far as I know, he loves it, but are you saying that there is no reason to get a Nexus 10? Because if I were to get an N10, I would not get a new laptop and just use a tablet for my web browsing needs and take the N7 to college with me.
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Hi Robin2,
Thanks for the reply!
That was my initial instinct, that note taking would be easier with the note because after using my friends Note 2 and S Pen, I loved it and loved how easy it is to use. My brother has a N7 and as far as I know, he loves it, but are you saying that there is no reason to get a Nexus 10? Because if I were to get an N10, I would not get a new laptop and just use a tablet for my web browsing needs and take the N7 to college with me.
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It's a great device really, but IMO it's just not worth getting both a Nexus 7 & 10. You will end up using one of them most of the time. The N7 is comfortable to use for a really long time, whereas the N10 gets quite heavy after using it for a while. So I can imagine you would want to pick up the N7 more often, because it's just so portable. But really, the screen and performance are great on the N10.. better than the N7. So if you're OK with having both, but not using one of them that often - go and get yourself a N7 and N10.
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It's a great device really, but IMO it's just not worth getting both a Nexus 7 & 10. You will end up using one of them most of the time. The N7 is comfortable to use for a really long time, whereas the N10 gets quite heavy after using it for a while. So I can imagine you would want to pick up the N7 more often, because it's just so portable. But really, the screen and performance are great on the N10.. better than the N7. So if you're OK with having both, but not using one of them that often - go and get yourself a N7 and N10.
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Ah, I thought there was some major technical oversight with the N10 that rendered it useless (apart from the screen that has such a high pixel density that it's almost impossible to hit a small button) I think that I would prefer Nexus devices because my last altercation with Android was ruined by 2 things - the lack of updates and the bloatware - not an issue with a nexus!
Yes software is often more important than hardware. I believe Android 5.0 is confirmed for the Note, but it could take a while for Samsung to actually release it.
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Yes software is often more important than hardware. I believe Android 5.0 is confirmed for the Note, but it could take a while for Samsung to actually release it.
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But saying that, Jelly Bean 4.1 was confirmed for my Ace Plus, and we are still waiting. It was the lengthy wait and wondering if we were going to get updates teamed with the fact that we never did and also all of the bloatware that made me purchase a Nokia Lumia 800 because I knew I would prefer WP7.5 to Gingerbread instantly
I think I will go for the N7 and 10, and I am certain that when my contract expires in May, I will get whatever nexus phone is available, just to give droid another try and also to complete my nexus set
Thanks for your help, Robin2
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Personnally I would not get 2 devices, one would just be lying around somewhere, collecting dust.
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But saying that, Jelly Bean 4.1 was confirmed for my Ace Plus, and we are still waiting. It was the lengthy wait and wondering if we were going to get updates teamed with the fact that we never did and also all of the bloatware that made me purchase a Nokia Lumia 800 because I knew I would prefer WP7.5 to Gingerbread instantly
I think I will go for the N7 and 10, and I am certain that when my contract expires in May, I will get whatever nexus phone is available, just to give droid another try and also to complete my nexus set
Thanks for your help, Robin2
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Personnally I would not get 2 devices, one would just be lying around somewhere, collecting dust.
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Not with me, I would have my N7 in my bag and use that while I was at college and then have my N10 for when I am at home, that way, both devices get used!
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Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I literally Just bought an XTZ 32GB this week (Right after watching Samsung announce the the new Note 10.1), and in the two days I've had it I have ZERO regrets. This sucker is FAST, and the screen is gorgeous!
Haven't used the CM builds yet but I understand there are stable ones out.
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Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I would buy another XTZ as opposed to the Nexus or Note tablets, there are too many issues with the Nexus tablets for me and the Note tablets have terrible dev support thanks to Samsung and their lies.
The XTZ is amazing, the AOSP builds have everything working except HDMI/HLL. That's not supported on any device with CM though as far as I know.
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I'd definitely still recommend it!
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I would buy another XTZ as opposed to the Nexus or Note tablets, there are too many issues with the Nexus tablets for me and the Note tablets have terrible dev support thanks to Samsung and their lies.
The XTZ is amazing, the AOSP builds have everything working except HDMI/HLL. That's not supported on any device with CM though as far as I know.
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Are the AOSP builds stable with almost no bugs? how is the battery life?
I'll be getting the 16gb version, correct me if I'm wrong but I can send sms with this thing right? Just no LTE?
Is the battery life that big of an issue?
kingofthebraves said:
Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I would definitely buy the XTZ. That's a great tablet, especially for the form factor.
It's brillant to watch movies too. I recently did transatlanctic flights and was happy with the battery drain: only around 15% per movie.
The battery drain is much more important when playing "hard" such as Real Racing 3, and you feel the tablet heat! But I guess this would be the same with all other tabs.
I consider buying it also but:
What about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419767
Does 2x Dualshock controllers work wireless via bluetooth?
buy
IFA is over and you know whats coming this year.
I am using cm10.2. Next step will be a multiboot solution with Ubuntu Touch.
Don`t forget do buy a dock. This is very important->no more opening of the ports (this can really suck)
Color adjustments (white is not Paperwhite) problems at low brightness, bleeding and this torsion problem exist. @cm10.2 i never noticed the torsion problem and the bleeding is minimal.
CM is usable, but i think(know) the SonyUI and 4.2 are a great deal, too.
i would recommend it thou the home screen is still laggy with the 4.2 update
nova etc solve it but cant understand why sony could not fix it
one ques for fellow xtz owners - does appgratis load and open properly on ur xtz ?
Just arrived today ....
I just opened the box a couple hours ago. Fired it up and the battery was at 60%.
Can't put it down.
I was using an HP Touchpad with CM9. Big difference!
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this tablet!
Tablet is still awesome. I just wish I had a case that was as nice to use as the Poetic Slimline but without the weight... So far none of the other cases are as nice.
Iv used mine for some time now, its a great tablet however I think something like the nexus 7, or Z ultra is more comfortable for me, Im trying to sell mine but here in India i dont know anyone who wants to buy it.
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Tablet is still awesome. I just wish I had a case that was as nice to use as the Poetic Slimline but without the weight... So far none of the other cases are as nice.
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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It's still the best case i've seen by far. Just that it basically weighs as much as the tablet.
FYI
If you are using a case without magnetic lock. you can insert a small magnet inside your case cover. magnetic sensor is located at the left side of the front camera( screen facing you ).
screen will automatically turned off when the cover is closed and it will turned on when you open it.
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Poetic slimline from Amazon
I ordered the Poetic slimline from Amazon and I can confirm there is access to the charging port and the weight factor is no big deal.
Excellent case.
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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Glad to see so many like this tablet, I'm giving serious thought to buying one. I sold my Asus transformer tf300t, my last 2 android phones have been Samsung, my wife has a nexus 7 and I've never owned a Sony android device. The xperia z is probably the best looking tablet I've ever seen and the video reviews I have watched of it just make me want it more.
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Okay.
If you want a 10.1" tablet I'll still recommend the Tablet Z.
If you're happy with a 7" Tablet go for the new Nexus 7.
Both tablets have the same processor, so you won't really notice a difference in performance.
As for the fact that the Nexus 7 runs stock Android without bloatware, it runs slightly faster than the XTZ, but not that much.
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I ordered the Poetic slimline from Amazon and I can confirm there is access to the charging port and the weight factor is no big deal.
Excellent case.
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Yeah, I heard that was the case with the current stock so I went ahead and got it!
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So there was no successor presented at IFA, which makes me wonder why?
The Xperia Z was announced in January and released in February, now we already have the Z1.
The Xperia Tablet Z was announced in February and released in May, and although it's still a good device, it would have needed the some overhaul (things like IP58 instead of IP57, additional GSM voice communication, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 800 + Adreno 330, better camera).
I am especially curious because the Xperia Tablet Z is already on the remaining stock list at our mobile network operator and pretty much sold out.
I've never had a tablet before, but I'll get two for free when I renew two data plans at the beginning of next year, so I have some more time to wait and see, but if nothing was announced at IFA, when is the next possibility for a successor to the XTZ?
Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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I know what you mean! Things are progressing at such a ridiculous rate in the mobile world; its incredible. Especially Intel. They've made an absolutely shocking amount of progress in the past year. They've basically done what took ARM companies 3-4 years in 12 months. I'm really looking forward to Intel chips in our smartphones and tablets; we'll finally be able to crush Apple's in-house designs!
As for my next device, I'm definitely going to be getting the Nexus 5. A 5" device with a Snapdragon 800, OIS, Android 4.4 and other incredible hardware? Count me in! I sold my Galaxy Nexus a few weeks back, after the Nexus 4 price drop (I got a shockingly good price for it, too) in preparation for the N5. Now, I realize that SOME of the leaked specifications may not be totally accurate, but I am also hoping that we get the 5" display in the smaller-than-Nexus 4 frame. That would totally sell it for me.
I will probably will continue to use my galaxy nexus until it dies. It have been an excellent phone.
If it dies however I will buy the Nexus 5 midst likely.
I don't think i could use anything else other than a Nexus and be happy with it. Mainly because of the updates.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. Used the Spencer features and they can't be beat if doing a large amount of sketching.
But I may wait until spring as the N10 is still great. Use a capacitive stylus with good results.
I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
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You are good for a long while. I fully agree. There's a lot of life left in this tablet.
Wait for the 2015 edition to be released Oct 2014
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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Sigh... me, too. I've been wanting to come on this thread and pledge allegiance to the phone I hope the Nexus 5 will be. If it's a Snapdragon 800 / Adreno 330 / 1080p / 3000 mAh G2 with standard button placement and at least 2 Gb of RAM... running pure, unbloated, updated Android... then the Nexus 5 will be a stun-gun of a phone for 2013. (darn it... just drooled on my N10.)
But... we get all that and no removable memory? I know, that would mean space, weight, cost, whatever. But Samsung can do it on their flagships (with the added benefit of replaceable batteries). Seems like such a simple thing for winning freedom from needing access to a good WiFi signal.
If the N5 overcomes the N4's hardware limitations that now prevent the use of Nexus Media Importer -- and along with it the unrooted read/write use of USB card readers & memory sticks -- that'd go a long way. Let's just say I'm not holding my breath, since Google appears to have a different agenda.
For a brand that touts such an open OS, the box they put it in sure is closed.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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OK... But you had to pay a lot more for that 32GB model I bet. My Droid RAZR M came with 8GB built in, and for only $20 I added another 32GB. I can even upgrade it to a 64GB microsd for less than $50. Good luck trying to get that kind of bargin upgrade on a non-microsd phone. Another added benefit... Let's say your phone meets an untimely death in the laundry machine, well at least with microsd your photos and music are perfectly safe.
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I'll get a Galaxy Nexus 2 when it comes (I hope it does). My Galaxy Nexus holds up for a while and I use my Nexus 10 for gaming. I'm not a fan of lg. I hope Samsung will produce a Nexus phone again.
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I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 32GB model. Already have it on pre-order. I had always said that the perfect device would be the Note 10.1 with the Nexus 10 screen, and voila! Can't wait!
An 8 inch Android tablet, probably the LG G Pad 8.3 because it's the first one to have 1080p. Or the next Note 8.0.
The Nexus 10 is too big to play games, etc.
Also maybe the next Nexus 5.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
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I agree that there's no point in trying to go any faster than 'instantly' ...sounds like you had a sweet setup with your S3!
With Kit Kat supposedly supporting ARM-64 and with Qualcomm, Tegra & Exynos -- and AMD & Intel? -- all producing 64-bit mobile processors in 2014, some interesting 64-bit applications might not be far behind, as well as some significant energy demands, like you've pointed to. I bet power-management & battery-design teams are putting in all-nighters to bring us more innovations like big.LITTLE... and to overcome the downsides of lithium-sulfur technology, which could increase battery life by a factor of 4.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about new processors running 32-bit apps faster, though there will, of course, be some performance gains as we'll as some overhead hits. I was thinking about the new capabilities heading our way once applications cross over into 64-bit territory -- whenever that is -- and not just better encryption and data-bunkering.
We'll be looking at real-time audio and image editing, providing such things as on-the-fly video-effects management... and faster vector processing, which game devs will surely take advantage of, like Infinity Blade III has for Apple's new phone. I'm eager to see the impact of 64 bit on multimedia multitasking. General improvements in multitasking could get us to the 32-bit 4Gb RAM ceiling surprisingly soon.
After that, the 64-bit RAM upper limit of 16 Exbibytes -- 17.18B Gigabytes -- should hold us a while!
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I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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They already have pics of the nexus 5 and a 3d rendering. You should check them out. The phone is a. Little plain. They got rid of the glass back and went with that rubbery plastic which is better durability i guess but not as good looking. They also got a bigger screen then nexus 4 with a smaller frame. :sly:
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In the G2's favor, this is an interesting market differentiation:
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I've had this imei blocked note2 for quite some time now, and I'm getting it fixed in a few days. I ran into someone who said that when it's fixed, he'll trade me his at&t optimus g. I've rooted/rom'd/oc'ed the note, and I have everything ready for the G if I get it. The question is... Should I? He won't let me play with it, fearing theft, and that's fine. I have a 4.7 inch optimus 4x, so I do know how that screen size feels, and I'd like to be able to use just one hand again for mundane tasks like texting, without having to "one handed mode" the keyboard. I also don't give a crap and a half about the stylus.
I'd also like to mention, I'm a heavy android gamer. Playing psp, nds, real racing 3, nova 3,etc etc.. But that's more or less what my tegra 4 tablet is for. So, what do I have to lose or gain going to the G? How does it stack up to the note 2? To the 4x HD? Benchmarks are cool, but they don't give me the info I need.
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I've had this imei blocked note2 for quite some time now, and I'm getting it fixed in a few days. I ran into someone who said that when it's fixed, he'll trade me his at&t optimus g. I've rooted/rom'd/oc'ed the note, and I have everything ready for the G if I get it. The question is... Should I? He won't let me play with it, fearing theft, and that's fine. I have a 4.7 inch optimus 4x, so I do know how that screen size feels, and I'd like to be able to use just one hand again for mundane tasks like texting, without having to "one handed mode" the keyboard. I also don't give a crap and a half about the stylus.
I'd also like to mention, I'm a heavy android gamer. Playing psp, nds, real racing 3, nova 3,etc etc.. But that's more or less what my tegra 4 tablet is for. So, what do I have to lose or gain going to the G? How does it stack up to the note 2? To the 4x HD? Benchmarks are cool, but they don't give me the info I need.
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I'd say from the note 2, as far as performance goes, you may not notice a difference, however, the note 2 has a giant battery, so you will almost definitely see less battery life.
Me personally, I don't like those gigantic phones, this one feels good, the only problem I have with it is the back being glass. It has a very "slippery" feel when one-handing it, but I think getting a case should resolve that.
I like this phone, I think once we get real KK, the KK roms will get much better, as right now there is little problems, like lack of LTE on most 4.4 roms. At least mine anyway lol.
I wouldn't fool with anyone that won't even let me check out the phone. And theft ? He thinks you would just run with the phone ? Lol, such idea is just idiotic,. I don't think you have anything to gain, if you're happy with your note I would just stay put, unless you just want to trade for the sake of having something different
Trust me, I hear you. That's EXACTLY how I got my blocked note 2. My first craigslist phone.... I gave a nexus 7 2013 16gb AND $165 for it, only to enjoy 2 phone calls before... "Your device has been blocked from network use. If you have reached this message in error, please call..." Yeah, you guys get it. On the topic though, I hear the G has better GPU performance than the note, and the 4x (tegra 3) is better than the G?
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Let's say for the sake of argument..that the nexus 7 cost 300 (at most) and the fact that you gave him an additional 165 bucks...you just spent 465 bucks on a phone you could get from swappa for 200 bucks less...but I can agree with silent, the phones pretty slippery without some kind of cover...Honestly I don't miss my note i717..way to big...if you do get the e970, we are slated for an official 4.4.2 update. That's something to look toward to. I'm just not sure how active the devices forums will be after the updated release. The devs here have done a great job releasing quality ROMs
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Spent 251 on the nexus at radio shack, but I've Google shopped and have seen your point. I decided to take the plunge, as you can see from my sig. Rooted, KK installed, loving it. Anime rom, franco 4 Geeb kernel. May go back to stock though. Damn this thing gets hot. And fast.
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With heavy usage, most smartphones will..I've noticed with beanstalk. The device doesn't get that hot....OC'd to the highest point,stock kernel (only because I haven't found one compatible)...phone doesn't get hot...not a big fan of stock ROMs...
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Hi guys I'm thinking of buying a Song Ultra Z and just wanted to get you guy's input if there are some downfalls that I don't know of/commonly known.
Im upgrading from a galaxy note one which has been a nightmare: calls breaking up, power button, overheating.
Also if you have any recomended accessories.
Much Thanks!
I came from a Note1 myself and have only one advice for you: Buy it blindly [emoji16]
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I too, came from the Note and i'm still happy with it (bought mine last september). It's pretty big (but very thin) and the camera isn't the greatest, and that's about it really.
I came from a note also. Its really nice phone. Although battery is not that good compared to note2. Also it has no camera flash but im still okay with it
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#Note3 all the way. Love mine. Not a big fan of the Sony phones.. That one in particular.. Read some poor reviews, guess it's a lot of opinions. Good luck
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Came from note, note 2, played a lot with note 3 but at the end of the day still happy with my choice and that is zu (****ty camera)
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I've never been as happy with a device as I am with the ultra. And I had a lot of them. You need to like the size though.
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Its great. I personally like the google edition software better but once I got used to the size it is awesome.
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Its great. I personally like the google edition software better but once I got used to the size it is awesome.
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Buy the Sony phone and run the ported GPe ROM on it !
Think of buying this phone as it is relatively cheap compared to other phones im my region.
Should I get this or the G2, the prices are the same...
I like this thing primarily for its size and display.
I just want one thing to know, can I flash cm11 android 4.4 here? I dont care about warranty. My current phone, lg optimus 4x never fell from my hand ever, so I am careful with my devices.
I would be going for a 5.5 inch phone but this thing is the cheapest larger than 5 inch phone.
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Think of buying this phone as it is relatively cheap compared to other phones im my region.
Should I get this or the G2, the prices are the same...
I like this thing primarily for its size and display.
I just want one thing to know, can I flash cm11 android 4.4 here? I dont care about warranty. My current phone, lg optimus 4x never fell from my hand ever, so I am careful with my devices.
I would be going for a 5.5 inch phone but this thing is the cheapest larger than 5 inch phone.
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Yes, CM11, and others are available, so that's not an issue. You've probably seen the preview of Android "L" today, so just imagine that on 6.44 inches. It'll be sweet.
The G2 isn't a bad device though, but you can't compare those two since they are two different types of devices (phone vs phablet), but I can easily recommend the Ultra.
I've had every high end phone and this by far is the best if you can deal with no flash and mediocre camera performance. I never need a tablet this thing is actually my main computer. I torrent the hell out of it fixed the ext sd card write permission and download like crazy on unlimited data.
bak3donh1gh said:
Hi guys I'm thinking of buying a Song Ultra Z and just wanted to get you guy's input if there are some downfalls that I don't know of/commonly known.
Im upgrading from a galaxy note one which has been a nightmare: calls breaking up, power button, overheating.
Also if you have any recomended accessories.
Much Thanks!
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You can also try save your device, but this needs root. Try LagFix (fstrim) from the Play Store ^^.