I felt that the stock Sony wall charger was not performing as rate 1500mah.
Z ultra has a 3050mah which means that the 1500mah charger will need like max 2.5hours to full charge the battery.
But mine need more tha
n that.
So i use an amperage meter to measure it and found that is just 900mah/1500mah.
I tried my S4 charger and is rated at 1300mah.
In this measurement i used the same Sony cable which is connected to my Z Ultra.
Did anyone here have this issue too??
I'm using the magnetic dock, and i'm getting everything between 800-1300mAh. It takes around 2 hours to fully charge it.
ronald_loulan said:
I felt that the stock Sony wall charger was not performing as rate 1500mah.
Z ultra has a 3050mah which means that the 1500mah charger will need like max 2.5hours to full charge the battery.
But mine need more tha
n that.
So i use an amperage meter to measure it and found that is just 900mah/1500mah.
I tried my S4 charger and is rated at 1300mah.
In this measurement i used the same Sony cable which is connected to my Z Ultra.
Did anyone here have this issue too??
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I am using an app called battery monitor widget and I am experiencing the same thing. Normally seems to charge between 800-900 at best I have seen 1100 but never close to 1500 or so.
I am planning on getting the "quick" charger to see if something is wrong with mine.
This is using the stock cable, if I use a different usb cable (thicker even, will not even get to 500).
shaolin95 said:
I am using an app called battery monitor widget and I am experiencing the same thing. Normally seems to charge between 800-900 at best I have seen 1100 but never close to 1500 or so.
I am planning on getting the "quick" charger to see if something is wrong with mine.
This is using the stock cable, if I use a different usb cable (thicker even, will not even get to 500).
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Or maybe my charger is faulty???
Is only 3months old...
I think its normal because it is within the usual efficiency number I got about 800-1100mah with mine on battery network widget. With samsung 2.1 amp charger i got max 1500ma.
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hansip87 said:
I think its normal because it is within the usual efficiency number I got about 800-1100mah with mine on battery network widget. With samsung 2.1 amp charger i got max 1500ma.
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Sounds like Sony is controlling the charge input...
But slow charge is good for battery..
Especially non removable 1...
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Wondering if anyone has tried it? I remember reading that the wall charger from my Tab 10.1 was more powerful than for the phones because it would take FOREVER to charge. Wonder if it's compatible with our S3?
Anyone?
I believe that anything that charges on USB is just getting 5 vt, so any charger would work with any phone/tab if it is charging through USB. I would guess that the wall chargers are also putting out 5vt and would therefor be fine with any mini USB plug charging device.
Easy to check, plug it in and see how it works. (Buy insurance first )
Yes,
I have been using my tab 10.1 charger since the first day I got my sgs3.
It DOES charge faster, about an hour for a full charge from <8%
No problems I have noticed, and I am using blazer rom.
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gyrra said:
Yes,
I have been using my tab 10.1 charger since the first day I got my sgs3.
It DOES charge faster, about an hour for a full charge from <8%
No problems I have noticed, and I am using blazer rom.
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An hour, eh? Nice. I thought it would charge faster but not that fast.
And im definitely talking about the using an outlet, not usb.
Thanks for the confirmation!
No problem,
I knew you meant the AC charger, and that's why I posted. USB charging is slow until someone adds in the fastcharge ability to a kernel for our s3's
Glad I could be of help.
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Gave you your first thanks!
if this helps i used a blackberry charger and it worked.. i have had no issues.
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lostsoul565 said:
if this helps i used a blackberry charger and it worked.. i have had no issues.
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Not talking about blackberry either. The wall charger for the Tab is more powerful than phone chargers. Thats the only charger im asking about.
tony yayo said:
Not talking about blackberry either. The wall charger for the Tab is more powerful than phone chargers. Thats the only charger im asking about.
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Any modern device will limit its own current draw to what is needed to do the job. While it is certainly possible for a charger to be underpowered resulting in slower charging it should not be possible for a charger to be overpowered. That is, there is some maximum charge speed the phone is capable of and that limit is expressed as its maximum mA draw. a charger that sources under the max mA will be slower than one that meets or exceeds it. A charger that exceeds the max mA will not charge any faster than any other charger that also exceeds the device's max mA regardless of the differences in their source capacity.
So, if that makes sense to you then you should know it ought to be safe to use a powerful charger and that if faster charging results then the stock charger is in fact underpowered for the device it was paired with.
Disclaimer: Any engineer worth his salt is going to current limit the charging circuit on the phone. However, if this were not the case then providing increased charging capacity will most certainly damage the device.
crabapples said:
Any modern device will limit its own current draw to what is needed to do the job. While it is certainly possible for a charger to be underpowered resulting in slower charging it should not be possible for a charger to be overpowered. That is, there is some maximum charge speed the phone is capable of and that limit is expressed as its maximum mA draw. a charger that sources under the max mA will be slower than one that meets or exceeds it. A charger that exceeds the max mA will not charge any faster than any other charger that also exceeds the device's max mA regardless of the differences in their source capacity.
So, if that makes sense to you then you should know it ought to be safe to use a powerful charger and that if faster charging results then the stock charger is in fact underpowered for the device it was paired with.
Disclaimer: Any engineer worth his salt is going to current limit the charging circuit on the phone. However, if this were not the case then providing increased charging capacity will most certainly damage the device.
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Basically youre saying the phone itself wont pull in anymore draw than it knows it can handle. So I guess if it does charge faster than great. Long as it dont fry im happy!
Hi all!
I charged my Xperia Neo with another cable (the one from Kindle reader) and it actually charged it up much faster than with the stock one. I used the official transformer only with a different cable.
I've noticed that with the official set my phone charges aproximately at half the current than with others. So, I get it to charge at around 500mA with original and around 900mA with others (max. current as it depends on SOC - State Of Charge).
Is it any bad for the battery? How bad?
Actually, other devices such as Nexus7 charge at this current. And I believe they all have similar battery technologies.
It is safe, its like using a slow charger and a fast charger concept. The downside is the battery will reach its wear and tear and lessen its life.
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popoykevin said:
It is safe, its like using a slow charger and a fast charger concept. The downside is the battery will reach its wear and tear and lessen its life.
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It would lessen its life anyways since the battery needs to be charged, wouldn't it? Does it really matter to charge it at a higher current (around 1A)?
I'm no expert on this issue so I think that if Sony designed the transformer and the cable in that way there must be a reason.
Also I noticed that the heat from the battery produced during charging is higher.
- With original transformer/cable: 28ºC peak.
- With original transformer and a different cable: 38ºC peak.
Actually, I think that even wtih 3D games it doesn't reach that temperature.
Last time my phone was charging at higher current and i was doing a phone call it restarted after a while. Not sure if it was due to temperature though, but it might not have been the reason since my phone reached 41ºC before and no reboots have happened.
Somebody knows what range of temperature should this phone work with? I mean, not to provoke a reboot nor to damage the hardware.
I usually use and HTC one that is 1A at 5v and my neo is perfect... for example Samsung give you also a 1A at 5v Charger
That's what I wonder.
If all phone batteries are similar in the technology they use, why Sony provided a cable that reduces the charging current?
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The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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The Xperia Tablet Z ... won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet).
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The Xperia Tablet Z is supplied with a charger that connects to its USB port; so, the XTZ will charge via its USB port.
If you attempt to charge the tablet via a computer's USB port, that port must be capable of supplying enough charging amperes, otherwise, the tablet will not charge. Standard USB 2.0 ports supply up to 500 mA and standard USB 3.0 ports supply up 900 mA, neither of which is truly enough amperes to charge the tablet. USB ports on computers that are specifically designed for charging devices usually supply 1500 mA (1.5 A) or more. Some manufacturers mark these types of USB ports with a lightening bolt symbol.
As for portable chargers, I have not used any except for chargers that fit in my automobile's power plug (cigarette lighter plug).
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
USB chargers are standardized, you need a "special" one nowadays about as much as you need a "special" socket for a device with a power plug.
The only difference is that we have weaker and stronger chargers, but this does not limit their usability. If you use a weak charger your device will charge slower, if you use a charger with an higher maximum power as your device needs it will expl nothing bad will happen either, it won't take more from the charger than it can handle.
Personally I bought (since I need the original 1.5A charger for the dock) a 2A Samsung charger for travelling. I think it is the same as the Galaxy Note 2 uses, which you already have.
Oh, and it charges with the 2A one over USB also around 30% faster than with Sonys 1.5A.
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Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
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Maybe I'm not being clear.
Portable power supply. With a battery. One that puts out enough power to actually use the XTZ while it's charging, even if doing so only keeps the battery the same rather than actually charging it.
Can anyone recommend anything?
I know it uses a standard micro USB connector to charge but I've heard it won't charge from most PCs as they don't put out enough power. My understanding of many portable chargers is that they also don't put out a great deal of power unless specifically designed for laptops and the like. I don't know if the tablet's needs are quite that, but I'm looking for anyone who has experience using a battery pack with it and if anyone has any recommendations.
Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
Thanks.
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Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
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It should. The XTZs battery isn't exactly high capacity as tablets go. The Nexus 10 has a 50% bigger one and the iPad3/4 one is almost twice as large.
The principle of power packs is in the end identical as that of basic USB chargers, even a 500mA one will charge the XTZ, but it will take around 15 hours for that (and around 24+ hours to charge an iPad). It isn't a question of "working", but of "working how fast". But, as said, the XDZ hasn't exactly an huge battery, so if anything it will charge faster than other Tablets.
Assuming you do not use it, that is. It is quite possible to discharge it as fast a 3A/hour if you use maximum screen brightness and CPU intensive tasks. But you can discharge other Tablets faster than you can charge them as well.
So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
Psykhe said:
So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
Morti said:
Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The Sony CPF2LS USB Portable Power Supply with 7000 mAh Battery charges at 1.5 amps so it should work for you. I'd post a link to Amazon, but, alas, I can't. It's around 63 bucks.
Regards,
John Francis
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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There is a slew of chargers that will charge it. You can use laptop USB, but like mentioned if you use it while charging it will drain
To solve this problem you simply need to have a portable charger that will put out at least 1.5amp(which is what the tablet charges at if im not mistaken).
So plenty are on amazon or ebay which you should have access to in europe
I use powergen ,they work well and is good quailty. Like either of these will workbigger mah will make the charger simply last longer)
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-2&keywords=powergen
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-3&keywords=powergen
Key thing is to simply look for the amerpage it puts out before you buy, that's how you know if it will charge and use the tablet at the same time. I can sucessfully do both using my car charger(2amp made for iphones) and my Powergen
Morti said:
Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The thing is this entirely depends how you use it. It is quite possible to use it in such a way that you would need a 3A charger to stop it from discharging. I do not think such one exists nor that the battery can accept such a charge.
So AFAIK a charger (be it a power plug or battery one) which stops it from discharging under all kinds of usage scenarios does not exist.
Therefore there is no answer to you "which charger I should use" question, only that the more A a charger puts out, the more usage scenarios will be covered (as in "will charge tablet while using it that way") by it.
Test how fast the Tablet discharges (without charging it) when you use it the way you plan to while using your charger. That will give you an indicator what kind of power you need. I.e. if it takes 12 hours even only a 0.5A charger will work, if it takes 2 hours you would need a 3A charger, which likely doesn't exists.
Im using an innergie charger that gives 2.1 amps and it charges a little faster than the 1.5a that came with it!
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also i noticed that the quality of the cable has an effect, cheap ones take longer!!
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
padooka said:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
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You know that that charger will only charge around 66% of the XTZs battery, though?
(Effective maximum capacity ~4A (see "attrition factor" explained in 2nd review), XTZs battery: 6A)
I am using my Samsung Note2 charger that states 2A.
Charges alot faster so for people with other chargers I should check samsung chargers haha.
Heya,
I've used the Momox iPowerPro+ on my Xperia Tablet Z and no problems
http://shop.brando.com/Momax-8500mA...2-1A-1A-External-Battery_p08658c0191d003.html
Hello
For the first time I let my XTZ drop below 40% battery.
I chargy only with the Sony's cradle since I don't really carry it around.
I get to putting it on charge when it reached 10% battery, but few secconds after it showed charge animation a pop up appeared that battery is low and should be charged. This kept showing every few secconds.
It looked as the charger contacts where not making good connection. So I tried moving it around, checked the contact pins and the lever if it pulls them out and springs where working. It all seamed to work ok. It was late and I had it wet 3-4 hours ago so I just left it off the dock till morning.
When I got up I tried to put it to charge again, but same buggy pop up started to appear...
Now I left to work, set sound off and left it to charge with hopes above 10% it will be ok...
Anyone else experienced this?
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Well I have my problem solved lol.
As engineer I don't usually read everything about the spec...
So the charger I used was rated at 2A, industrial quality mind you, while the cradle is actually rated at 1.8A input and 1.8a output...
I tought the cradle is just two wires and some weights, but seems to be more than this.
Anyway the XTZ started to charge fine with the Sony charger at 1.5A.
The tablet also charges faster with the 2A charger, but only from the USB.
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Rozamar said:
Well I have my problem solved lol.
As engineer I don't usually read everything about the spec...
So the charger I used was rated at 2A, industrial quality mind you, while the cradle is actually rated at 1.8A input and 1.8a output...
I tought the cradle is just two wires and some weights, but seems to be more than this.
Anyway the XTZ started to charge fine with the Sony charger at 1.5A.
The tablet also charges faster with the 2A charger, but only from the USB.
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I don't think it's the rating of the charger - I had just posted this in the "battery broken?" thread in this forum :
GretaLewd said:
Charged mine for a while this morning in the Sony dock with power on, wifi on, screen off. Like others, I use an iPad charger (2.1A).
The battery went from 11% to 55% in about 2 hours, so about 22% per hour - though I think it slows down as the % gets higher.
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I've been using an iPad charger for the last 6 weeks to charge my SXTZ either directly through the USB port or "indirectly" through the Sony docking cradle. I've had no problems - as you can see from the above quote.
By the way (not that it matters) I'm an engineer (electronic) too.
I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
Using an old note 3 2amp charger, makes it charge faster, but would also like to know re ep881
I tried to charge using my old Zenfone 5 charger (1.35A) and it is indeed faster, my friend's Z1 also charges faster.
But when I use my iPad Air charger (2.4A) it's slow just like the desktop charger (850 mA).
So yeah because of this mixed results, I'd also like to know how fast it would charge with the EP881.
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I am using a Samsung high speed travel charger which gives out 2.1a. Very fast and charges my C5 Ultra in around 2 hours...
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
senthilrmohan said:
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
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Return it for repairs or replacement...
dear
kanej2006 said:
Return it for repairs or replacement...
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i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
senthilrmohan said:
i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
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Oh dear. There are two options.
1 - Try returning the phone to the nearest Sony dealer. Show the original receipt which will show the device is new and still under warranty. Hopefully they can resolve the issue.
2 - Sony may ask you to return it to the shop where it was bought. Unfortunately you may have to return it to the shop you bought it from in Dubai Airport. They will most likely send the unit off to Sony for repair or replacement.
That said, try option 1, much more convenient. Hopefully they can solve your problem without having to mess about returning it to the original shop which happens to be in another country! Otherwise you may even have to ship the item along with the receipt to the shop. Once they receive the unit they will advise you on what they will do and how long it will take for it to be fixed/replaced. Once that has been completed, they will need to ship it back to you.
Either way, good luck and let us know what happens!
Bought this phone when I was in Thailand when I killed my Nexus 6 by walking into the ocean while it was in my pocket..lol. Anyways, the phone is slow at charging, not like my Nexus 6 which takes only 15 mins to charge fully. I switched to the Motorola Nexus 6's turbo charger and my C5 is charging A LOT faster. Standard charging is 5V @1.6A, Turbo 1 is 9V @ 1.6A, and Turbo 2 is 12V @ 1.2A. Not sure if the C5 is a Turbo charging enabled device but it's definitely charging way faster than the stock charger.
zarerraldin said:
I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
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I've used my old Samsung charger that came with my old s4 and the charger puts out 5.0v at 2amps. And I used it on the original z ultra and I tested it on my new c ultra and it works great however I have realized that these particular phablets really don't charge that fast and from my experience they never have but they are at best average when it comes to charging. Oh by the way I also have the original Sony charger u s version and I see vary little differents in the amount of time it takes to charge
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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Not at all...
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
Seshcena said:
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
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Not at all.
I use various chargers (Anker, Samsung, LG, Apple) and all of them work better than original, but you should leave the phone idle when charging.
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Bavz08 said:
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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The phone charges on maximum ampere it can take (~2A) no matter the charger is 100A as long as the output stays 5V.
Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
Seshcena said:
Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
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I played Candy Crush Saga when charging. The phone can be hot but it doesn't make your hands uncomfortable.
What happens if we change charger means sometimes use 2A charger, sometimes 1A or 1.5A
The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
A side note: avoid REV (sold on BestBuy) external battery because the phone refuses to charge while Asus 10050mAh and TSST 5Ah and 10Ah external battery charge fine.
jetstreamblue said:
The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
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In my case, if the battery is 5% or less, it'll take around 3 1/2 hours to charge. However, should the battery be 25-30% it'll just take around 2 hours to fully charge...