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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
I have never used CM7 since I just got my Touchpad a few weeks ago when CM9 was out. But CM9 is stable. Just doesnt have camera or mic working. I dont know if these issues are the same with CM7. But if your mom has no need for all the apps android has to offer, she can just use webOS which is more stable than both CM7 and CM9.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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Dont bother at all with CM7. CM9 and other ICS roms are far more stable. Pretty much everything works except for the camera and microphone. Battery life is nowhere near as good as in webOS, expect about 2 days of standby or about 5 hours of constant usage. Some people have wifi issues, but they're more often than not fixed by setting the router to avoid higher channels (keep it on 6 or below). The vibrate motor also for some reason stops working after the device goes into sleep, and the only way to get it going again is to reboot but I dont think that's a big issue for anyone.
As for a ROM, I'd recommend CM9 not because its the best but because its the one I'm most familiar with, and I can say its fairly stable. Sometimes it will randomly reboot, but never while actively using it. I'm using a nightly, but since you're giving this to a family member you might be better off with the better tested Alpha 2.
Stable Rom: Classicnerd
For me the most stable rom has been classicnerd's latest version. I have been using it and donot get any force closes or reboots. You can find the latest version at classicnerd.net/Betas/
as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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as far as CM9 and the camera/mic issues, I think she would want to use skype to video chat with family members, so that would be a problem.
Does classicnerd have that issue?
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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All CM9 ROMs have that issue. Again, she can use webOS for that though.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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webos does not have a lot of the banking and other apps she may find useful. Although is it easy to dual boot webOS and android? I'm thinking maybe its useful to boot to webOS just for skype and Android for everything else. That is, if its easy to switch between them.
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Dual booting is the only way to do it. As far as I know, you cant replace webOS. When you follow the instructions to install android, you also install what is called a moboot that lets you select which operating system to boot into when starting the device. Switching between the two is easy and is just a matter of restarting your device.
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I am used to modding android devices. I might be looking to get a touchpad for my mother depending on how stable an android rom is for it.
Is there a stable CM7?
What are the features that DO-NOT work? (that way I can assume everything else works?)
Front camera, skype support?
Again I would be looking for the most stable and bug free ROM that I would not have to constantly flash updates for her. Thanks!!
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CM7, yes.
Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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Just depends on how adept she is at technology. If she can decently run a computer and text, she should be mostly okay. The one thing I would highly recommend is to make sure she can fix the wifi authentication problem. Basically, every now and then, wifi will have an authentication problem. When this happens, she needs to go to wifi settings, forget the router, toggle wifi off/on, and sign back into the router. This problem usually occurs for me when I leave wifi on and then reboot or get a random reboot. Takes maybe a minute to fix. As far as ROM, I like oat's light and tasty, although they're all pretty good, as they have the same base.
Sorry, I have to get this out of my system, then I'll be back to polite nice Canadian. In short, try one and see.
<rant mode on>
One of these days, people will actually glance through the forums as opposed to posting a new thread. This thread has been duplicated many other times before now.
In the end, again, just grab one, take it for a spin, and try it. Start with the more official ones, and work out from there until you find something you like. If nothing suits your fancy, take the source and make your own. It's pretty simple. So please stop spamming the boards with "Which ROM should I use" threads. </rant mode off>
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Personally, I prefer AOKP.
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I have tried CN and others but, I think that Oat's light n' tasty is the best so far. All my games run great and so does netflix and YouTube. But, a Rom is only good if it runs the apps you like. You I'll have to find the one that works best for you. I still think webOS is still good. Just my $0.02
I figured one more opinion can't hurt.
I've been using AOKP on my touchpad ever since I found out that they build roms for hp touchpads. It's great, so is CM9 but for some reason my touchpad refuses to behave with CM9, I'm talking random reboots, wifi issues, SOD (screen of death), and so on. ClassicNerd is also great too but I fell in love with the ROM control options available with AOKP.
Either way, one of the earlier posts mentioned that battery life is weak with ICS which is NOT the case for me, I always have wifi on, with my CPU overclocked to the maximum available frequency and get about 7 days, yes 7 DAYS, of standby and at least a full day of constant use.
As for skype, it is not fully functional with all android devices, just the few that the skype people officially support, I've tried it on my phone and it gave me a lot of issues, so even if the mic and cam were working I doubt skype would work well enough on the TP.
Obviously as others have mentioned earlier ICS is much better on the TP than GB, plus you have the great option of dual booting so you could always use WebOS which is pretty decent itself.
All in all, the TP was a great $100 investment and has a lot of support from some great devs out there. My almost 3 years old nephew has one and he loves it too lol
if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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if you install one of the current nightlys, unofficial or official, she should be running just fine until you come over and install the one of the newer ones for her
the nightlys seem to be running great, even without the supreme mods.
can anyone tell me if the supreme mods are still worth installing?
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I found your answer on another thread:
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I read somewhere that the tweaks were in one way or another no longer relevant or in some form had been incorporated into Android starting with Gingerbread... I think the post is actually in this thread. I myself was using it for a while but after reading that I stopped flashing it and haven't missed it
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I've been following the ICS thread for quite a while, since the early alpha days (BTW thanx Joker and co), and as soon as the work on JB started I kinda dropped the ICS thread for the JB thread. The only that has been holding me back from actually flashing the ROM is that I kinda like using my 4G, but I'm considering changing that. My question is, what are the main issues with the latest JB (0.1.1), it seems like APNs are fixed for most people, camera is working, MMS is working (whether with GoSMS or not), and battery life is pretty cool too, anything that's NOT working?
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I've been following the ICS thread for quite a while, since the early alpha days (BTW thanx Joker and co), and as soon as the work on JB started I kinda dropped the ICS thread for the JB thread. The only that has been holding me back from actually flashing the ROM is that I kinda like using my 4G, but I'm considering changing that. My question is, what are the main issues with the latest JB (0.1.1), it seems like APNs are fixed for most people, camera is working, MMS is working (whether with GoSMS or not), and battery life is pretty cool too, anything that's NOT working?
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I believe tethering is hit or miss for some. I use Foxfi to compensate for this. I cant seems to receive download mms either with stock messenger. I will say that while ICS handles the lack of 2d libs pretty gracefully, JB seems to noticeably stutter a little bit more. Camera is laggy at times, other times its fine. I get no force closes, no random reboots, no overheating, and pretty good battery (though not as good as ics). All in all it runs beautifully and I'm extremely happy. If you can get used to comparatively ****ty 3g speeds compared to your 4g, jump ship!
Cool, thanx... I may do just that
BTW sorry if I sound like an illiterate, but what exactly are the 2D drivers, and what do they do?
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Cool, thanx... I may do just that
BTW sorry if I sound like an illiterate, but what exactly are the 2D drivers, and what do they do?
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They insure that 2d animations across the OS work smoothly, ie transition effects, scrolling, and how some applications render theirselves. We don't have the ones we are supposed to, hence, those things are jittery at times. In general, they don't affect the usability of the ROM, they are just cosmetic and irritating. However, some applications that require hardware acceleration, namely some browsers and games, don't work properly or not at all. This is why opera and chrome do not work for us yet.
I've been waiting to see how this Jelly Bean update is working out for people. I'm unlocked and rooted very close to jumping in.My biggest gripes has been the browser ANR's and sub par Wifi. However I'm good with my Prime for the most part...Which is why I've been reluctant to flash new any of the latest Jelly Bean Roms. I'm aware I can NFlash and revert back ((I think) but prefer to get the feedback anyways.
I know there's a few forums about what people think since the update but this thread is basically to see who updated to Jelly Bean and wished they stayed on ICS because they have new issues, or just hasn't noticed much of a difference. Moderators feel free to fix anything I may have missed since its a poll.
Thanks
I had many many browser ANRs on ICS and after moving to CM10 they are all gone . As you are unlocked I think you should try it by yourself if it fits you (do nvflash before just in case). Wifi seems to me unchanged (ie not better).
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My Prime never had that much problems to begin with, but sometimes I had some ANR and my Wifi didnt download stuff fast and sometimes disconnected, but rarely. Since JB I never got ANR and in the beginning I was getting some reboot, I still have an issue with my ADW Launcher it was working correctly before update, but now sometimes icons are weirdly displayed, but I blame them cause now its listed as incompatible and before it was listed compatible with the Prime. Yesterday I installed Bards Tale and downloaded the 3.5 Gig version and the download of tha additional data was very fast.
SO overall my tablet is better with JB
I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
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I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
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My Prime on JB is way faster. But, JB on my S3 is amazing. So smooth. I'm running AOKP and i dont regret it.
I appreciate this. Especially since I had forgot where I had read somewhere else about some of the apps aren't compatible..Yet. Overall per the poll though I, MOST ppl are happy with the update. I'm considering figuring out how to flash this NVflash to be able to give this a shot and revert back if I'm not happy. I actually flashed CM10 art 1 point but didnt like the fact it didnt stream audio via HDMI.
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Keep the feedback coming!
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Wifi tether does work with jellybean I use it when I'm out to play the shadow gun beta you have to have internet connection.
I absolutely hate the JB update After flashing and doing the factory reset, there is noticable sluggishness on the launcher and app drawer without forcing GPU rendering. Feel like the whole point of "Project Butter" is that it should just work.
The onscreen keyboard responsiveness is awful and a huge step back from ICS. I'm no longer able to touch type quickly as trying to do so on JB will result in many missed characters. I became proficient at typing on the keyboard, I shouldn't have to step back in order to just be able to type words without missing characters.
Losing the ability to use my synched bookmarks from Chrome is a pain in the neck.
Game performance is hugely impacted by JB on the Prime. GTA3 is pretty much unplayable on JB!
Looking now into unlocking and flashing to an ICS rom as I feel like my tablet is now in the worst state it's ever been. The stability of the browser is great don't get me wrong but for all of the functionality I've essentially lost to get that, it just isn't worth it.
My prime experience with jelly bean has been great. Not perfect, but in comparison to ICS, it has been great
Well, when I updated to JB with a locked bootloader and lost root, JB wasn't all that great: still some ANRs and a lot of lag. I just recently unlocked, regained root, and installed all my mods: since then JB really is a godsend. Browser is ridiculously quick and scrolling is unbelievable (browser2ram). Overall feel is definitely improved.
Biggest gripe is the HDMI out got porked, and the backspace issue isn't fun either. But dear lord it's so much smoother than ICS (all my animations are set to .5x), in all respects. Still lags when installing apps, but doesn't come to a halt like ICS.
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good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
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good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
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Same boat. Thanks for the thread.
no doubt, JB is better (especially HB) :angel:
I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
My recomendation for "stable"
No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
I have very similar experience as yours. Bought the gtab long ago, played for a while, then stashed away for several month, but pulled it out again while some brilliant devs actually put JB on it.
I will never ever go back to stock on gtab. Both Smoother Bean and G-Harmony Jellybean ROMs work reasonably well. In my opinion, they are already pushing the limit of the hardware.
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No expert here, but I have multiple g-tablets. For the "stable" ROM, I use Cyanogenmod cm-7.2.0-smb_a1002.zip
Hope that helps,
Jack
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Whereabouts can I download that ROM? I googled the file name and I found the cyanogen download page with the various releases but I wasn't sure which one to pick. I didn't see any that said for the gtab and to tell the truth, it was late and my eyes were sleepy! If you know of a place to download the ROM, I would appreciate it. I would like to give it a shot and see how it goes on my tablet. I'm also going to try out reinstalling JB. I didn't realize there was a update for smoOther bean. So, we'll see what happens.
For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Second that! :good:
When will TeamDRH be releasing a new JB rom?
Do you mind to share the new rom?
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I did install the CM7 ROM and I also tried another one, I can't remember right now which one it was. I was tempted away by the G-Harmony Jellybean ([ROM-AOSP][BL-1.2]G-Harmony Jellybean 4.1.2 ODEXed (UPDATED 12/28)) , I installed the Overclocked version and I have to say it is doing very well. I did have some SOD's but I supercharged it and bumped up the CPU with No Frills CPU and since then it has had no trouble. Its been since Saturday that I installed this ROM and I have used it a bunch since then. I guess time will tell.
I do have a question tho about a problem I'm having but it's absutely not a deal breaker. I can't get google calendar to sync. I know other ROMS have had a package to install that fixed this but I wasn't sure if I could do that with this rom. I don't want to jack up my install. I don't absolutelly have to get the calendar working right now. I don't have reliable internet at home, so the only time I get online with the thing is when I wifi tether to my phone. Was just wondering if anyone knew how to resolve this issue. Again, I would post in the forum for this ROM but I'm not allowed yet.
Thanks!
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For stability and full function of the Gtablet, you will probably want to use a Froyo rom. All other versions of Android required re-written drivers and/or kernel, as Viewsonic did not release an official version, and never released their source code. My favorite Froyo rom is:
TNT 6039
I used that rom with VTL Launcher for months, until TeamDRH released their JellyBean rom. You might need to make some minor modifications to see all the apps in the Play store, just read the thread.
I also have another Gtab that is running CyanogenMod. This became my 'stable' tablet. My parents, kids and nephews have used it for months with no complaints. If it gets a little slow, just wipe the cache and it speeds right back up again. Hardware acceleration does not work on Gingerbread, so major 3d games often have graphical glitches, but it is very stable. Here is a link:
CyanogenMod 7.2
If you can wait a few more days (hopefully!) TeamDRH will be releasing a new JB rom with their new kernel. I am currently running my own CM10 build with the new kernel and it is great. Very fast and stable. None of the released JB roms ran very well on my 'experimental' Gtab, so I built my own. After a ton of work, it is running even better than my 'stable' tablet, so I would be willing to bet that when they release their new rom, it will be the best available. Judging by the description of your usage, I would try CM 7.2.
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Can you share the ROM, please?
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Do you mind to share the new rom?
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When DRH is ready to release their new rom, it will likely be on the other forum first. Search Google for "gtablet roms 1.2/1.3" and that forum will be listed at the top of the page. Can't link you to it, else I may anger the XDA Moderators! Sounds like they are very close, just waiting on a new recovery.
As for my current build, just a basic CM10 build with a few minor customizations (my chosen boot animation, removed/replace system apps, changes to build.prop, etc.). I cannot share it because I am using the new (unreleased) kernel, and it's a pretty 'plain' version of CM10, but you can easily build it all yourself. Once you have your build environment setup, it is easy to rebuild an updated version any time you like. Only thing is, you are on your own when it comes to troubleshooting and support! If you are interested, I can link you to the info I used to figure out how to build the kernel and CM10, and the Git locations of the required source code. You would need a decent computer running 64bit Linux (I use Arch Linux, but Ubuntu is easier to setup), about 50GB hard drive space, and some free time. I just did it for fun, plus I'm impatient and wanted to try the new kernel, and none of the JB roms at the time would run well for me.
Best ROM for G-Tab
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
This post. A million times this post. Smooth bean looks promising but I've been through so many roms with mediocre to poor tab perf.
[=torilyn73;37717272]I have been a member for a long time, but I never post anything so in that sense I'm new enough that I can't post this in the forum I wanted to, so I'm asking here. This is going to sound like a hateful rant and I'm sure someone is thinking, "If she knows that, then why is she hatefully ranting?" I am not ready to give up yet, so I'm explaining how I arrived at this point.
I have had my Gtab for about a year and a half. In that time I have rooted it and changed the ROM several times. I moved up to the 1.2 bootloader. In all this time I haven't really used it much because it just doesn't work right no matter which rom I try. Each rom will be ok for a few days, and then it starts getting glitchy. I got so fed up with it, I just parked it for several months and didn't touch it. Just recently I have installed the smoother bean rom. It is sort of ok but it doesn't 'just work'. I'm not a bigtime gamer, I like angry birds and sudoku. I surf the internet, watch videos, read books/magazines that are in epub format. When I study, I highlight text and make notes. When I sit down to study, I need it to work. No hangups or lockups or slow/frozen screens. When I get it out to use at the KH to follow along with the material I studied previously, I need it to just work. It has been to the point that I had to open the thing and physically unplug the battery to get it to behave. I was so excited to get this tablet and read all the information in these forums about it, so I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. The bloom is off the rose and I just want a tablet that does what I want it to do. I don't even care if it has jellybean or ICS or even Honeycomb at this point... I just want a tablet that works without having to fiddle around with the software.
And I don't install crazy amounts of apps. I think there are 7 or 8 that I use. Mainly Moon+ reader, Dolphin browser, Pinterest and Sudoku and Angry birds. I also like to sync my google stuff, calendar, contacts, email.
I'm am thinking I might put it back to stock and let it do all the OTA updates and see how it runs. But if I do that, I have to do the fix that makes the google market and stuff work. If I can do that and in the end have a working tablet that is decent and stable, I'll do it. Can anyone give me any feedback after having done this themselves? How was your tablet after? I remember how horrible it was out of the box. Is it better? MUCH MUCH Better? or just a little better.
Is there another rom that has been proven to be stable? I'm not worried if the camera or bluetooth doesn't work, I don't use those with the tablet. I don't think they are working right now, I'm not sure I haven't tried them since I installed the smoother bean rom. It can be any version of Android, I don't care.
I have given some thought to selling my gtab and getting another tablet, but I don't want to do that just yet. I know there has to be a solution, I just haven't found it yet.
Any feed back or suggestions would be most appreciated. The developers work hard on this tablet and have kept it going when Viewsonic themselves quit on it. I think that its really cool that there is such a devoted community of people who still love this tablet.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]
Running SmoOther Bean but it starts up laggy?
Nice you gave me some more settings to try. Don't know that I want to change the DPI or have any issues with volume. Did change CPU settings. Anything else you'd recommend?
After it's run for about 10 minutes, it seems to work OK, only occasional lag. I'm setting background processes limit to none on every boot up. Anyone have a way to make that change stick between reboots?
Thanks!
Downloadbob
ugsny321 said:
Hi all,
I bought my G-Tab whentheyfirst came out and have tried about 13 or 14 ROM's over the last (nearly) two years. In my opinion the best is SmoOtherBean by Nobe1976. Out of the box it is pretty good, I made a few minor adjustments after the install and it is running perfectly.
Changed dpi to160 (enabled Music / Movies in the Play Market)
Used ROM Toolbox to delete Music FX and DSP Manager (fixed problem where music would suddenly blare or change volume)
Set min/max CPU to 312 / 1200 (seems to wake up faster, no lags when browsing,etc)
Give Nob1976 a thumbs up if you like his ROM - stop the trolls who have chased off so many devs.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900562
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Check out nobe1976 UnOfficial -BAKED ROM
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
What's your experience like with Blackbean?
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
_dave said:
For anyone who is "still looking" for something stable, check out noble1976 modified Blackbean (on this site).
I am very satisfied with this "beta" version that this maybe will be the last one I'll be using (its that stable for me).
A big THANK YOU to Noble1976 for his hard work on getting this version to work on the gtablet and his PAC rom and all the other help he has given to us. :good:
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downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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BAKED Bean you will must NVFlash to the new 2013DRH setup. The boot.img in that ROM is the latest fosser2 3.1.10 kernel. The mounting is completely different other then the System. So updating the Tablet with the latest that is linked in the OP should be done to the T.
downloadbob said:
Are you seeing any startup or sleep lag like I'm getting with SmoOther Bean? I switched from Go Launcher EX to the default one (Apex?) and it does seem a bit better.
Would like something a bit more responsive for daily use though. What's involved to flash Blackbean over SmoOther Bean? Repartition, etc?
Thanks for the heads up on this - might give it a shot when I hear back from you! Sounds like a good weekend project!
Downloadbob
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The only "lag" I'm seeing is after the opening screen animation the screen goes blank for 10sec or so. So, just wait till the regular default screen appears.
And be sure to do what Nobe1976 said. It went very easy for me changing over, for I already have used NVFlash 2013DRH version with
nobe1976 "PAC" ROM. Good Luck.
Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Went from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 and was shocked by the phablet UI and the loss of usefull screen. That's when i unlocked my bootloader.
Been using PACMAN nightlies and am currently testing AOKP. Both are working just fine but you lack stamina mode and some sony features like doubletap wakeup and the remote.
The Android 4.3 ROMs are both very usable for everyday usage though. PACMAN comes with more additional stuff but i don't need even half of it wich is why i test AOKP right now. All i want is the tablet UI and the fast 4.3 performance.
I flashed so many ROMS lately that it is probably due to that fact and i need to wipe it clean and start from scratch. :laugh:
My wish would be a modified Sony 4.2.2 ROM with tablet UI. I think the additions Sony implemented are useful without bloating the operating system. Sadly it is completely useless with the phablet UI.
KanjiMan1977 said:
Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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I'm using the PAC nightly builds and having no problems :good:
As Jequan mentions, you do loose some of the stock functionality. The only bit I miss is the double tap to wake - that was nice.
The main reason I use PAC is for Pie functionality. For me, permanent on-screen navigation buttons are a waste of screen space - so I use ROMs with Pie (PA on my phone, PAC on my tablet z).
Note : If you are going to unlock your bootloader, backup the TA partition first. (Google: 'Sony DRM TA partition backup' for more info)
At the moment, the Sony stock 4.1.2 is the best ROM. Full functionality, rock stable, no annoying phablet UI.
Only problem is WiFi connection is sometimes a bit unstable. You have to test whether that's a problem for you (for me it's not, with my router it works very good).
Well Im really just waiting to see if they screw up 4.3 cause its supposed to be out really soon. Ir remote... dont care about cause there are other apps on play... just wont be as pretty. What I really wanna hold on to lol... my gallery widget... I cant find one even close to it. but if I want it that bad theres an Advanced Xperia launcher I can install. I have all the files needed to get the ball rolling. Im just still kicking myself for upgrading to 4.2.2. Now I guess either downgrade or Rom either way next step for me is a recovery cause im not flashing nothing without one. PAC was a pretty good Rom ported to the Galaxy Note... But it crashed a lot on me.. But that was back awhile ago. I like my per app dpi and all the customization bells an whistles.
Another thing I was thinking was trying the Xposed framework on the stock Sony firmwares. With the right modules it just might do the trick. But I would still want to run a recovery before trying that aswell.
After benevolently testing new phablet-ui for some weeks, I found it most inappropriate for a 10.1" device on which I work in horizontal screen orientation. So I changed to latest PACMAN ROM nightly and now after a week I can conclude, this step has payed off. Although some things do not work (yet) in this ROM, it runs very smooth, not a single reboot from the start. It has tons of options to set and play with and it brought back the tablet-ui. I did no great feature testing, only daily work with Dolphin, Firefox, Chrome, K9, Jota, FileManager HD, QuickPic, c4Droid, AdobeReader, YouTube etc. Also battery live seems to be all right to me. The only thing is I had to change to Nova launcher, built-in Trebuchet did not handle wallpaper setting properly. On the downside I lost the unique features and apps of stock ROM, but I did not use them anyway ...
What i miss, is the stamina mode, MHL hdmi, USB Mass Storage.
I use CM10.2
USB mass storage also doesn't work??
You can't connect a USB stick to the tablet, even not with Stickmount or a similar helper app??
USB Storage seemed to work for me when i had PACMAN installed.
The complete lack of deepsleep resulting in battery drain when inactive is what made me go back to Sony 4.1.2.
Once they found a way to do something like staminamode i will switch back.
All it would take is to let the tablet enter deepsleep i think.
Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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I reinstalled it clean just for that. Also installed greenify and disabled everything possible. Then installed wakelock detector and nope it never went to deepsleep. Neither did the AOKP ROM for that matter.
I posted it in various threads but so far i got not a single confirmation that others get deepsleep.
OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
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OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
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When i used AOKP or PACMAN i lost about 1% battery per hour when in standby. With the sony ROM i wont lost a single % over 12 hours. I also had massive battery usage shown for "Android system". I never could narrow down why or what causes it. With timescape the display is using most of the juice as it should be.
That is why i started looking into where the juice goes and it showed that it never goes into deepsleep and no app was active.
Maybe i did something wrong i dunno.
I'm on cm and loving it. I like the simplicity of cm while still having that AOSP feel.
I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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See that's what i dont get... all these roms running off the same buggy cyanogen but know one fixes them... they just copy them over to such and such rom and its no better cause it has the same bugs. I guess its just the fact is whether or not all the fancy dancy features is worth loosing some functionality over a stock rom. I was thinking that modified xperia launcher was great to use on stock rom (but what happened to that... been months since update) along with a couple other customization apps. I don't see to much happening in the XTZ scene I cant even find a functional recovery that works like it should... correct me if Im wrong. Almost all the threads are full of out dated info ("that was soo last week" ) or empty promises, Or is it that there are people working on new great things and keeping it hush hush. Im no dev i would learn if i knew where to start (I know starting with XML would help) but how about an update on your projects once in a while like how things are going.
But to be honest I think im gonna downgrade cause Im sick of lookin at the stupid phablet UI with its grey bars (BAD SONY).
[ROM][10/11][CM10.2][Linaro][O3][MeowKernel][TWRP][Fidelity]CM10.2 - Fidelity Edition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383800
Works beautifully well. Was getting boot loops on pac rom on my wifi only 32g xperiabtablet z.
I also posted in thread how to get viper4android to work and have scipts Supercharger V6 supercharged 100% working along with crossbreader.
Unrelated, is anyone else concerned about the usb port breaking on the device? im reading reports that it eventually falls off. Anyone here have their tablet since May, no issues? im buying a charging cradle to mitigate damage.
Also I really like the GUI in this ROM. I have deleted stock along launcher using no bloat,;I use Nova, way better and I locked nova in portrait mode because looks way nicer. I also flashed a swipe asop black keyboard with swipe and installed exposed module with app settings. I use greenify to grrenify all and keep a greenify shortcut on my desktop. I deleted all email apps including gmail because I use aqua mail.
Running very smooth here. Really love the expanded desktop feature, I use it while I'm gaming.
This tablet is far more superior with boot loader unlocked. Glad I did it!