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So the moto devices put the external SD card under mnt/sdcard-ext as everyone here knows. I'm wondering if there is any method to:
1. Have apps like rhapsody use the external card for downloading music
2. Remap using external for things like Gameloft games data
I am rooted and I've been looking at solutions - alsso know that non stock will allow for changing mount points completely, but not quite there yet.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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cubexg said:
So the moto devices put the external SD card under mnt/sdcard-ext as everyone here knows. I'm wondering if there is any method to:
1. Have apps like rhapsody use the external card for downloading music
2. Remap using external for things like Gameloft games data
I am rooted and I've been looking at solutions - alsso know that non stock will allow for changing mount points completely, but not quite there yet.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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cool. Did some Googling and see what it is. Can you point me in the right direction for the photon? If its someplace here I'll search around for it (just say so and I'll drop it). Its late and this after dealing with my two year old and 12 week old today - a bit out of it.
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Switch the vold.fstab around.
Make sure your permissions are set right
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cool. Did some Googling and see what it is. Can you point me in the right direction for the photon? If its someplace here I'll search around for it (just say so and I'll drop it). Its late and this after dealing with my two year old and 12 week old today - a bit out of it.
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OK. I see what to do to swap. Rather then swapping it, is there a "better" mount point for the external so that programs like rhapsody would use it properly? I assume using a bind command from shell would be enough to get the Gameloft games moved.... right? Or do most people simply swap internal with external?
Thanks.
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I'm curious too, been wondering this for a while but never thought to ask on here.
Is there a step by step guide for doing this or is it going to be too complicated for someone not familiar with coding.? I would love to accomplish this.
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vold.fstab is located in the system/etc folder. You must be rooted to see it. You can change where the mount point is for the external SD card. How to do it is pretty straightforward based on reading the file and Googling. My question is specific to how 'mother's devices deal with the external card and how software like amazon mp3, rhapsody, etc store data to the external SD and how remapping the external SD on the photon would best allow those apps to use the microSD successfully.
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Guess joker wasn't much help huh lol? Someone should write a guide on how to do this instead of whatever the hell joker wrote and said nothing else. Thanks!
Super busy give me a few hours and ill post something
kennypow3rs said:
Guess joker wasn't much help huh lol? Someone should write a guide on how to do this instead of whatever the hell joker wrote and said nothing else. Thanks!
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Well that would be something the app developers would have to do. The vold.fstab trick is to trick everything in to thinking their switched. Not really a permanent solution. Try contacting the app devs and give as much info as possible including mount points
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vold.fstab is located in the system/etc folder. You must be rooted to see it. You can change where the mount point is for the external SD card. How to do it is pretty straightforward based on reading the file and Googling. My question is specific to how 'mother's devices deal with the external card and how software like amazon mp3, rhapsody, etc store data to the external SD and how remapping the external SD on the photon would best allow those apps to use the microSD successfully.
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Super busy give me a few hours and ill post something
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Sweet, can't wait cause I really want this. Thanks for taking the time to do this for us.
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Well that would be something the app developers would have to do. The vold.fstab trick is to trick everything in to thinking their switched. Not really a permanent solution. Try contacting the app devs and give as much info as possible including mount points
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Is there one mount point that is used more often then others?
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Is there one mount point that is used more often then others?
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Apparently Im real tired and I managed to read this kinda aloud... My wife just looked at me and said yes, there is definitely one mount point here that is used more often.
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Apparently Im real tired and I managed to read this kinda aloud... My wife just looked at me and said yes, there is definitely one mount point here that is used more often.
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Lol question is was she actually talking about sdcards lol jk
To get slightly back on topic , I was wondering if someone could spell out exactly how to do aa 'junction' (this would be the windows term for it) where you have an invisible link for the OS to follow from one place to the next. So instead of modifing the root files,instead running an app that manages it or a script at boot that would allow it. Again - on stock firmware if that matters.
Mnt/sdcard/gameloft redirected to mnt/sdcard-ext/gameloft
Make sense?
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[MOD](recommended)Team Infernal Presents l Swap sdcard & Is Now Reversable l All Roms
This is a flashable zip i made for you to mount the microsd as /mnt/sdcard and the internal sdcard of this phone as /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd
Instructions:
Just flash it
Requirements:
HtcDev unlock
Custom recovery
Ps: I also posted this in general before because my thank meter was on 0 so i couldnt post in development
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Nice thanks for this all we need is root now I'm so tired of not being able to use my SD card for anything but media
If the root method you are helping me with works you can just place the vold.fstab on system/etc yourself, glad to be helping
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Nice thanks for this all we need is root now I'm so tired of not being able to use my SD card for anything but media
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What do you mean? I can use my SD card for everything >.> Unrooted and still locked.
Method320 said:
What do you mean? I can use my SD card for everything >.> Unrooted and still locked.
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you can use it for everything once we get root
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you can use it for everything once we get root
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As I stated, I can already use it for everything and Im still not rooted and still locked. I can move downloaded files to it, I can easily access anything on the SD card.
oh yes sir you can ''use'' it but all apps are automatically installed to the ''sd card'' (internal hard drive)
will reflashing undo the swap?
Good question for those wondering this mod (I guess its a mod) works
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Good question for those wondering this mod (I guess its a mod) works
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i looked at the code, but i'm not enough of a linux guy to tell
Flashing the original vold.fstab will reverse this. So, yes, reflashing will undo it.
As soon i finish exams ill make a flashable zip to reverse it
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As soon as i finish exams i will make a flashable zip to undo this
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This mod is wonderful. I like knowing that if my phone's internal memory fails (or if I accidentally wipe it), I can just pop out my SD card because it has all my important data. For me, one of the benefits of most Android phones over the iPhone is the removable memory! And only about half of the apps I use were able to default to using the external card when the internal one was present and mounted first. Switching them solves that.
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This mod is wonderful. I like knowing that if my phone's internal memory fails (or if I accidentally wipe it), I can just pop out my SD card because it has all my important data. For me, one of the benefits of most Android phones over the iPhone is the removable memory! And only about half of the apps I use were able to default to using the external card when the internal one was present and mounted first. Switching them solves that.
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The idea came up since we only have 4.5gb for ourselves with this you can have up to 64gb, if only we could spread the word
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I think this will be one thing I change when I start over. Probably poor idea to try making the switch now. Thank you!
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homers1 said:
I think this will be one thing I change when I start over. Probably poor idea to try making the switch now. Thank you!
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You can always copy everything from internal sd to microsd and everything will be fine no need to start over
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As anybody using this noticed any lag? I am guessing a class 10 card would be recommended.
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As anybody using this noticed any lag? I am guessing a class 10 card would be recommended.
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Hmmm this is nothing related to lag i really mean it, lag associated with sdcard is usually using swap
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brent372 said:
As anybody using this noticed any lag? I am guessing a class 10 card would be recommended.
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Not necessarily. Coming from the Nook Tablet forums, this has been an issue that has been debated for some time. When you want to write quickly to a card you are better off with a higher class. However, if you need to read from a card, i.e. running an app or a whole OS, or booting off of into a recovery, higher rated cards don't mean faster read rates. Some lower class cards have a higher read rate. There is a discussion about this in the Nook Color forums and is hit on sometimes in the Nook Tab forums, sorry I don't have a link though.
IMHO Sandisk class 4 have the highest performance for reading from. This may not apply though, once you go to a bigger cards; 16G or 32G - I've only had personal experience with 4G cards.
i didn't see any priors threads to this so i am asking is this possible i don't see any options in the app managment section and app2sd card pro didn't work do custom roms have this if so i will be rooting asap. EDIT: Looks like i have found a way around it those of you interested in moving big data to sd card, app does require root but works flawlessly in my experience so far http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.slf.ListglApp
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i didn't see any priors threads to this so i am asking is this possible i don't see any options in the app managment section and app2sd card pro didn't work do custom roms have this if so i will be rooting asap
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It is there you may not have searched with the correct terms.
Apps2sd hasn't really worked in a while on a lot of phones. Least that I have owned.
If you flash a custom ROM you can do an SD card swap. So if you had a 32GB mem card it would become your "internal" and your 16GB would become the "external"
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I have been looking for a guide that is successful
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that is so lame how they did this some of these graphic intensive games have up to 2 gigs of sd data that was a really stupid move on samsung or googles part whom ever was resposible for this, i hope developers can find a way around this at one point
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that is so lame how they did this some of these graphic intensive games have up to 2 gigs of sd data that was a really stupid move on samsung or googles part whom ever was resposible for this, i hope developers can find a way around this at one point
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Could be worse...could own a nexus device and not even have the ability to use an external SD card.
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Could be worse...could own a nexus device and not even have the ability to use an external SD card.
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lol i just came from a sprint galaxy nexus but it just almost defeats the purpose of a sd card only for music i suppose lol
Though I haven't tried it yet, there are reports that directory bind works on the note 2 in a similar fashion. I hope this is true because the nand in the phone is much quicker than a card.
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JeramyEggs said:
Though I haven't tried it yet, there are reports that directory bind works on the note 2 in a similar fashion. I hope this is true because the nand in the phone is much quicker than a card.
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I can confirm that Directory Bind does work providing you're on a non-4.2 rom. Android 4.2's new multi-user feature causes Directory Bind to not properly mount apps to the external SD card.
Anyway, here's the link if you're interested. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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I can confirm that Directory Bind does work providing you're on a non-4.2 rom. Android 4.2's new multi-user feature causes Directory Bind to not properly mount apps to the external SD card.
Anyway, here's the link if you're interested. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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meaning anthing works so assuming stock jb rooted will work fine this will solve so many problems for me as my internal is already full
And that's what chaps my hid about our devices... In my apple days I hated deleting things to make room ... android could set themselves so far apart from them with expandable storage and they don't use it as they should
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exactly is this a os limitation is this somethjing possibly that some of our devs can work out in the future and do other newer devices have this issue or is it just the note 2?
Hey, so I have a few dumb questions.
1: I deleted my SD card shortcut that was in my freshly formatted internal storage when I got the phone. I want it back and no file manager can help me. I only want it because some apps (like Dolphin browser, for the downloads directory) won't let me select the external SD. Any way to get it back other then a format of the internal SD? Would that work even?
2: Why the heck is the EFS so dang fragile? And why does this phone have it able to get messed up!? None of my other phones have ever had this, and I've worked with the Samsung Intercept (OMG THAT HORROR), the LG Optimus V, the HTC Sensation 4G, my brother hasn't seen this on his Nexus 4 even. I see so many people posting "HALP, EFS MESSED UP WITH NO BACKUP!!!" and I'm just scared to death of mine messing up, so I have backups on my computer, my phone, my sisters phone!!! Lol.
3: I don't need to do it now, but in the future I might. How do we swap how the the external and internal memory is seen? According to many sites we need to "Open the file manager that you have installed on your Android device and browse to the location “/system/etc” and you will find a file named “vold.fstab”" only that file doesn't exist in my /system/etc folder in Beanstalk. So I'm curious if maybe the OG has a different method of doing this?
Thanks for those willing to take the time to answer my 3 dumb questions.
On 3...maybe I misread this but are you asking about moving anything you download from the web to sdcard instead of int. storage ? If that's the case, download xposed framework and get diwnload2sd. It allows you to change the downloads directory..hope that helps
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On 3...maybe I misread this but are you asking about moving anything you download from the web to sdcard instead of int. storage ? If that's the case, download xposed framework and get diwnload2sd. It allows you to change the downloads directory..hope that helps
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Thanks for replying.
No, there is supposed to be a way to make the phone mount the SD as internal storage and vice versa. In the future I may want to do that if I get a fast, large, SD card. But when I look into the proper folder the file I'm supposed to edit isn't there. :-\
There are certainly other ways to use the SD instead of internal, like the one you mentioned or another exposed module that sets the camera to use the SD instead of internal. And then there's the app I bought "FolderMount" which is great as well. It's certainly not devastating to not be able to swap how the phone mounts the memory, but it would be cleaner if I could.
Again, thanks for replying!
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Electriccars said:
Thanks for replying.
No, there is supposed to be a way to make the phone mount the SD as internal storage and vice versa. In the future I may want to do that if I get a fast, large, SD card. But when I look into the proper folder the file I'm supposed to edit isn't there. :-\
There are certainly other ways to use the SD instead of internal, like the one you mentioned or another exposed module that sets the camera to use the SD instead of internal. And then there's the app I bought "FolderMount" which is great as well. It's certainly not devastating to not be able to swap how the phone mounts the memory, but it would be cleaner if I could.
Again, thanks for replying!
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I've never has problems with the SD, I just point my file manager yo /storage/sdcard1 whereas internal storage is /storage/emulated/0.
Also, I've only ever had an issue with my EFS getting messed up once, and that was back on 4.2.2 before development got stabilised with gee/geeb.
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Also, I've only ever had an issue with my EFS getting messed up once, and that was back on 4.2.2 before development got stabilised with gee/geeb.
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That's a bit comforting. But I wonder why all these people keep messing up theirs even now. Hmm.
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Electriccars said:
That's a bit comforting. But I wonder why all these people keep messing up theirs even now. Hmm.
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Mostly operator error.
Otherwise, the only thing that could cause this is confusion regarding which recovery to use. TWRP has always worked for me.
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Mostly operator error.
Otherwise, the only thing that could cause this is confusion regarding which recovery to use. TWRP has always worked for me.
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So the recovery could mess it up?
I personally like Philz Touch. In fact, there's an update right now! But I have my efs.zip in case anything goes wrong!
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So the recovery could mess it up?
I personally like Philz Touch. In fact, there's an update right now! But I have my efs.zip in case anything goes wrong!
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That's the only thing I'm aware of that would have write access to the efs partition.
Ive never used philz recovery, but earlier versions of CWM for the OG didn't even check the updater script, so you could Very easily flash something that could damage the phone.
Yikes!
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for instance when I have a ROM backed in a nanodriod and also downloaded ROMs that are on my device how do I move them to like Dropbox or mega,etc for I can free up some space on my device.can I store them on copy storage app?and then say if I want to install the ROM or ROMs on my device how do I move them back to my devices storage space. Thanks In advance!!!
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for instance when I have a ROM backed in a nanodriod and also downloaded ROMs that are on my device how do I move them to like Dropbox or mega,etc for I can free up some space on my device.can I store them on copy storage app?and then say if I want to install the ROM or ROMs on my device how do I move them back to my devices storage space. Thanks In advance!!!
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I have an external SD card that I keep the latest version on, and move the old versions to my PC and keep them there until I get rid of the device. If my ROM devs come out with a new version, I download it to my PC, check the MD5 to make sure it downloaded correctly and then after it runs cleanly for a week or so with no major issues I move it to my phone and install it. Then after it runs cleanly on my phone for a week or so I move my backup of the old ROM and Nandroid I did before loading the new ROM, to my PC for as long as I feel it's necessary. I'll eventually delete them from my PC when they get real old and I'm sure I won't want to use them again. But I do keep a backup of the original software the phone came with or anything else I think is significant.
Anyway, that's what I do but I'm old and anal about this kind of stuff. If you talk to 100 people about this you will get 100 different responses.
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I do just about the same as the guy above me. I'll move older backups to a computer so I'm not filling my internal/external storage. I generally keep one back up on my external as well as Roms I have downloaded. It would be less time consuming to move files with a computer than downloading what you need. Tw backups are larger than the ROM itself in my experience.
I don't have a computer all I have is my Gs5 to use to do this with?what storage apps do you guys mostly prefer to download ROMs,apps,pics,etc to Google drive,mega,Dropbox,box,etc.Because on my Gs5 I usually have 2,3 ROMs backed up on my device and I want to move the ROMs,apps,etc to a storage for I can free up space on my device. And then whenever I can always move a backed up ROM from my storage and reinstall them onto my device. What's the fastest, easiest most convenient way to do this. Thanks In advance!!!
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I don't have a computer all I have is my Gs5 to use to do this with?what storage apps do you guys mostly prefer to download ROMs,apps,pics,etc to Google drive,mega,Dropbox,box,etc.Because on my Gs5 I usually have 2,3 ROMs backed up on my device and I want to move the ROMs,apps,etc to a storage for I can free up space on my device. And then whenever I can always move a backed up ROM from my storage and reinstall them onto my device. What's the fastest, easiest most convenient way to do this. Thanks In advance!!!
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Honestly, if you don't have a computer its probably better to get a higher capacity SD card. I don't download loads of Roms. If I feel the need to test one I'll backup, flash, test, then keep or delete the file based on my experience.
All my photos are backed up to Dropbox, as well as videos. I try to keep as many things as possible on the external card to keep the system running smoothly. I'd also suggest maybe keeping another micro SD with all the things you want on it.
Backing up things online usually requires you to download them again to access them, which to me, is inefficient. You'd also need to find a site that hosts large files. I don't know much how much help I am, but I'd try to get at least a 64gb card if you don't have a PC. I have over 40 gigs of backups alone on my computer.
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Honestly, if you don't have a computer its probably better to get a higher capacity SD card. I don't download loads of Roms. If I feel the need to test one I'll backup, flash, test, then keep or delete the file based on my experience.
All my photos are backed up to Dropbox, as well as videos. I try to keep as many things as possible on the external card to keep the system running smoothly. I'd also suggest maybe keeping another micro SD with all the things you want on it.
Backing up things online usually requires you to download them again to access them, which to me, is inefficient. You'd also need to find a site that hosts large files. I don't know much how much help I am, but I'd try to get at least a 64gb card if you don't have a PC. I have over 40 gigs of backups alone on my computer.
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Thanks bud I was thinking about buying a 128 Gig micro SD card.could you point me in the direction of a good one. Take care!!!
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Thanks bud I was thinking about buying a 128 Gig micro SD card.could you point me in the direction of a good one. Take care!!!
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I'm on the lookout for one as well. I'll let you know when I find one. 32 won't even cut it for me as of now.
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I'm on the lookout for one as well. I'll let you know when I find one. 32 won't even cut it for me as of now.
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Unless I find a great sale on dealnews or slickdeals or something like that the best deals I find are at newegg.
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Unless I find a great sale on dealnews or slickdeals or something like that the best deals I find are at newegg.
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Thank you. I usually go the eBay route whenever possible. Do 128 GB cards work on our phones? I know they're supposed to, but I've read conflicting statements on here.
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for instance when I have a ROM backed in a nanodriod and also downloaded ROMs that are on my device how do I move them to like Dropbox or mega,etc for I can free up some space on my device.can I store them on copy storage app?and then say if I want to install the ROM or ROMs on my device how do I move them back to my devices storage space. Thanks In advance!!!
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Go to your dropbox app and use the upload function. You might have to zip the file first . I know google drive will do it automatticly , Then when you want to put it back on your device just unzip it first or just extract it once its on your device.
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Thank you. I usually go the eBay route whenever possible. Do 128 GB cards work on our phones? I know they're supposed to, but I've read conflicting statements on here.
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From what I've read they work well except for a guy that had a bad card. Shouldn't be an issue.
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Can I just transfer ROMs,mods,etc to my micro SD card to store them and then just move them back to my device storage when I want to reinstall a particular ROM? Thanks.
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Can I just transfer ROMs,mods,etc to my micro SD card to store them and then just move them back to my device storage when I want to reinstall a particular ROM? Thanks.
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You can if you are rooted and have a file explorer. But I'm not sure you need to. I install all my ROMs from my SD card and back everything up to my SD card.
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You can if you are roomed and have a file explorer. But I'm not sure you need to. I install all my ROMs from my SD card and back everything up to my SD card.
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Yes I'm rooted.
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