As you can see by the title do you think the hopes of a unlocked bootloader fading away for the Galaxy s4? if so do you plan to switch devices?
clapper66 said:
As you can see by the title do you think the hopes of a unlocked bootloader fading away for the Galaxy s4? if so do you plan to switch devices?
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There's still a few people working on it and I follow those threads, very interesting stuff.
For now Safestrap is still a gift.
I think the S4 isn't going out without a fight. It's an awesome phone and many devs still have one so hopefully their hard work pays off sooner than later.
I've looked into another phone myself and keep coming back to the S4 myself.
Flashing an AOSP rom isn't worth it to me to lose things like an SD card or removable battery.. So here I am with HD11 on my stock slot!
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Mistertac said:
There's still a few people working on it and I follow those threads, very interesting stuff.
For now Safestrap is still a gift.
I think the S4 isn't going out without a fight. It's an awesome phone and many devs still have one so hopefully their hard work pays off sooner than later.
I've looked into another phone myself and keep coming back to the S4 myself.
Flashing an AOSP rom isn't worth it to me to lose things like an SD card or removable battery.. So here I am with HD11 on my stock slot!
Verizon Galaxy S4
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Flashing an AOSP rom has nothing to do with your sd card or removable battery lol. Trust me the battery still comes out of the phone.
joshm.1219 said:
Flashing an AOSP rom has nothing to do with your sd card or removable battery lol. Trust me the battery still comes out of the phone.
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He asked about maybe getting rid of the s4 and when I did actually think about that... The G2 was one I looked at... Along with HTC.
Neither of which you can remove the battery or have an SD card. Right? Maybe I'm wrong..
So that's where I was coming from there.
It's early maybe I just wasn't clear enough. I obviously know those two features have nothing to do with an AOSP rom lol
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Yea Josh I see what you're saying.
I wrote that other one before my coffee lol
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Mistertac said:
He asked about maybe getting rid of the s4 and when I did actually think about that... The G2 was one I looked at... Along with HTC.
Neither of which you can remove the battery or have an SD card.
So that's where I was coming from there.
It's early maybe I just wasn't clear enough. I obviously know those two features have nothing to do with an AOSP rom lol
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Yea Josh I see what you're saying.
I wrote that other one before my coffee lol
Verizon Galaxy S4
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I feel you I haven't gotten my coffee yet. My keurig broke last week, it's been a struggle.
joshm.1219 said:
I feel you I haven't gotten my coffee yet. My keurig broke last week, it's been a struggle.
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Haha I'm actually surprised I've made as much sense as I did. Hey Santa is gonna hook you up I bet!!
Thanks for setting me Straight
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Never lose hope!
Yes, that's why manufacturers are selling developer editions like Motorola and Samsung...
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Why would I give up the best hardware thats out there?? Hashcode has given us the opportunity to load Custom Roms and we have devs like sbreen doing a hell of a job. I feel for those that will be missing out.
thats just me saying...............
Also, I think I'll leave this here. Apparently, nobody knows anything about what samsung and Verizon offers.
http://m.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s4-developer-edition-goes-sale-650
Buy this and end your rants.
Now hopefully everyone reads that and stops babbling about all this bootloader talk . It's getting really old....
This forum is now plagued with either FAQ that are asked and answered 5 times a day or people starting the same threads over and over with different wording. What ever happened to the old days where people actually read?
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richii0207 said:
Also, I think I'll leave this here. Apparently, nobody knows anything about what samsung and Verizon offers.
http://m.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s4-developer-edition-goes-sale-650
Buy this and end your rants.
Now hopefully everyone reads that and stops babbling about all this bootloader talk . It's getting really old....
This forum is now plagued with either FAQ that are asked and answered 5 times a day or people starting the same threads over and over with different wording. What ever happened to the old days where people actually read?
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That's old news, expensive, and pointless now that they refuse to roll out updates for it.
richii0207 said:
Also, I think I'll leave this here. Apparently, nobody knows anything about what samsung and Verizon offers.
http://m.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s4-developer-edition-goes-sale-650
Buy this and end your rants.
Now hopefully everyone reads that and stops babbling about all this bootloader talk . It's getting really old....
This forum is now plagued with either FAQ that are asked and answered 5 times a day or people starting the same threads over and over with different wording. What ever happened to the old days where people actually read?
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So i have a fully functioning S4 why the F**K would i go waste money on another phone that i already own just for an unlocked bootloader... i would rather use safestrap for now. i would love to run an AOSP ROM but using hyperdrive with safestrap is already 100 times better then the stock TouchWiz.
Only if verizon supported the nexus 5 i would dump my s4 in a heartbeat for it, becuase it has beter hardware and is only $350 for the 16GB and $400 for the 32GB
clapper66 said:
So i have a fully functioning S4 why the F**K would i go waste money on another phone that i already own just for an unlocked bootloader... i would rather use safestrap for now. i would love to run an AOSP ROM but using hyperdrive with safestrap is already 100 times better then the stock TouchWiz.
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Well, you could sell your s4 and buy the developer edition or you could've bought one from the beginning. I guess you don't "want" the unlocked BL that bad?
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I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
flyinj54 said:
I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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mrbracht said:
I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
porky101 said:
Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
RaptorMD said:
He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Dolphlungegrin said:
Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.
So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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richii0207 said:
There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Oh well then I guess I mean that whatever exploit there was was patched or something...
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There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Also....you CAN root and get rid of or freeze bloatware.
I feel you. The one is a great phone but if rooting and ROMing is your thing the one isn't a good alternative... I'd wait the full fourteen days and see what happens with the x or the one. The s4 is by no means a shabby phone though
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If your still considering staying with the S4...
riker147 said:
Also....you CAN root and get rid of or freeze bloatware.
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Here are the mods/steps I used while on ME7. I have absolutely nothing to do with development of the following.
ME7 root method credit: open1your1eyes0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Remove bloatware credit: DarkMenace [/I]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313529&highlight=block+system+update&page=44
ME7 Mods credit: imablackhat http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44353826
If you are still on ME7 then the Safestrap Recovery thread is where you will find some motivation to keep the ME7 S4 credit: Hashcode http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428226
Just in case, method I used to revert back to stock on ME7
credit: joderme for development and invisible for hosting the file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357235
brycekerr said:
I feel you. The one is a great phone but if rooting and ROMing is your thing the one isn't a good alternative... I'd wait the full fourteen days and see what happens with the x or the one. The s4 is by no means a shabby phone though
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No I cant comment on personal experience with the HTC One but I can in regards to a ME7 S4. I do agree with the previous comment by brycekerr stating that the S4 is by no means a shabby phone. There's a lotta talk about the S4 not being significant enough of an upgrade from the S3...I disagree. I sliced and diced my S3 for a year and loved every second on of it but as kick ass as my S3 was my S4 is much snappier...
Isn't the HTC One locked even worse then the ME7 update? Like no root etc?
richii0207 said:
There was never an unlocked bootloader, where are you guys getting this wrong information??
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Jeez you know what he meant
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fatmando2 said:
So I got the s4 a week ago and so far it's been alright but I'm kind of questioning if I should switch to the htc one? The s4 seems too bogged down with touchwiz and has good specs but it seems like they don't run extremely well ex. the camera seems great if I'm not moving at all and if I have good lighting but otherwise doesn't seem to do too well. Additionally I made the stupid mistake of updating to the locked bootloader when I got my s4 so I can't load a custom rom to get rid of the weight of touchwiz and things of that nature. I'm not trying to hate on the s4, I'm just picky and that's been my experience so far. I'm mainly looking for responses from people who have had both phones but I do like any input you can offer.
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I agree for the most part, while the phone is snappier than my S3, TW does feel "heavier" than it did on the S3. Additionally, I am extremely disappointed in the camera and I find it tough to get good pictures, to the extent that I don't use it as often as I did on the S3. I can't comment on the One, but prior to the update that locked it up tighter than the S4 I was considering trading for one. Now I guess I'll just stick with the S4 and try to find ways to improve camera performance.
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MDK or ME7?
mlin said:
I agree for the most part, while the phone is snappier than my S3, TW does feel "heavier" than it did on the S3. Additionally, I am extremely disappointed in the camera and I find it tough to get good pictures, to the extent that I don't use it as often as I did on the S3. I can't comment on the One, but prior to the update that locked it up tighter than the S4 I was considering trading for one. Now I guess I'll just stick with the S4 and try to find ways to improve camera performance.
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mlin...you on MDK or ME7?
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mlin...you on MDK or ME7?
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I'm on an ME7 build.
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mlin said:
I'm on an ME7 build.
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You think you could extract a camera apk from a TouchWiz ROM, for example Hyperdrive cause there's more than one camera in the zip, and drop it in as either a system or user apk?
Looks like this has been answered..if not, please go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406733
Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs [MK2]? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
AOSP FOR MK2 IS THE MAIN POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. STOP MENTIONING MDK
If you have an MDK S4 there are aosp ROMs available. If you aren't on MDK you're stuck with TW. I've actually seen a jump in the amount of developers in the past couple months.
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ericerk said:
Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
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not sure what you are saying...even with safestrap I have many ROMS to choose from
ericerk said:
Am I the only one that feels like the S4 has been partially abandoned by most devs? Like AOSP is a dream we can say good bye to?
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And also more Devs are making ROMs generic now... Like liquid smooth. Its one file for all s4's and it detects which carrier/boot loader your phone is and installed the propper files.
This opens up many more options for the future of mdk s4 at least.. Philz recovery also has this now too so more and more are starting to use this method
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Future reference, you should never buy a phone in which you don't like the stock software.
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decaturbob said:
not sure what you are saying...even with safestrap I have many ROMS to choose from
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None AOSP which is the biggest downer.
Mistertac said:
And also more Devs are making ROMs generic now... Like liquid smooth. Its one file for all s4's and it detects which carrier/boot loader your phone is and installed the propper files.
This opens up many more options for the future of mdk s4 at least.. Philz recovery also has this now too so more and more are starting to use this method
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Not talking about MDK, MDK is awesome and has CM and other aosp based roms, talking about MK2.
joshm.1219 said:
Future reference, you should never buy a phone in which you don't like the stock software.
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Bought it w/ MDK software. Only bought it because of the exploit.
Had to replace phone.
ericerk said:
None AOSP which is the biggest downer.
Not talking about MDK, MDK is awesome and has CM and other aosp based roms, talking about MK2.
Bought it w/ MDK software. Only bought it because of the exploit.
Had to replace phone.
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Yeah I remember you saying that before, but this is exactly the situation that can happen. I would've never bought a Samsung device if I didn't love Touchwiz. Sure I run AOSP a lot, I'm on Google Edition right now, but if something happened to this phone I would be perfectly content with stock Touchwiz.
If you're going to stick on Verizon, it seems Motorola is the only company coming out with AOSP phones on this network.
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joshm.1219 said:
Yeah I remember you saying that before, but this is exactly the situation that can happen. I would've never bought a Samsung device if I didn't love Touchwiz. Sure I run AOSP a lot, I'm on Google Edition right now, but if something happened to this phone I would be perfectly content with stock Touchwiz.
If you're going to stick on Verizon, it seems Motorola is the only company coming out with AOSP phones on this network.
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The Hardware was amazing at the time of my purchase. I couldn't resist. Yay A year an a half more of Touchwiz... Goodie.
ericerk said:
The Hardware was amazing at the time of my purchase. I couldn't resist. Yay A year an a half more of Touchwiz... Goodie.
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You can always sell the phone and buy another on Swappa
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joshm.1219 said:
You can always sell the phone and buy another on Swappa
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They're selling for less than I purchased it on contract. Which is also a bummer. Honestly If there was some for of aosp like GPe port or a kexec method I'd really love this phone. I'm currently running foxes w/ a holo(yolo) theme which is the only reason I haven't chucked it out of a third story window.
ericerk said:
They're selling for less than I purchased it on contract. Which is also a bummer. Honestly If there was some for of aosp like GPe port or a kexec method I'd really love this phone. I'm currently running foxes w/ a holo(yolo) theme which is the only reason I haven't chucked it out of a third story window.
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Yeah like I said foxhounds is as close as you're going to get for the time being. And they're going for 300-500 depending on accessories etc. Which would still cover a Moto X, maybe a Maxx if you're lucky.
Just trying to help lol I know a lot of people hate TW I don't blame you.
It's funny how passionate we are about the look of or phone software when 99% of people could give a fuc.k
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joshm.1219 said:
Yeah like I said foxhounds is as close as you're going to get for the time being. And they're going for 300-500 depending on accessories etc. Which would still cover a Moto X, maybe a Maxx if you're lucky.
Just trying to help lol I know a lot of people hate TW I don't blame you.
It's funny how passionate we are about the look of or phone software when 99% of people could give a fuc.k
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It really is... But I really do wish that it would be up to us to choose.
ericerk said:
It really is... But I really do wish that it would be up to us to choose.
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Hey I know what your saying I felt the same way when I had the locked down one... The money part is a bummer but after I bought this mdk one and sold my other s4 I think in total I spent only $100 out of pocket so I could deal with that... Check it out.. may work for you too
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Mistertac said:
Hey I know what your saying I felt the same way when I had the locked down one... The money part is a bummer but after I bought this mdk one and sold my other s4 I think in total I spent only $100 out of pocket so I could deal with that... Check it out.. may work for you too
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That's a concept, but why put in more money for something w/ 100% no warranty?
Just buy something off contract, like that moto x or a G2
HOPE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
There seems to be hope.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
There seems to be hope.
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The last thing that remains in Pandora's box.
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Surge1223 said:
The last thing that remains in Pandora's box.
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Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
ericerk said:
Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
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If anyone is going to figure it out.. It's the people working together in that thread. It is a shame Verizon is such a pain in the asssss lol. My other s4 on sprint (granted its crappy sprint service) is nice an easy. Root it..use whatever form you want for a recovery and you're good to go....
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ericerk said:
Indeed indeed. I'm hoping that you guys will be successful.
If only bypassing the whole locked os was possible and just booting from an SD card (like the HD2), or kinda like what they did on the touchpad.
Just re-write the whole system. Seems like that would be just as easy.
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Unfortunately I cant find the right resistor to short to start the boot from SD process, though im still looking. The boot from SD is being tested on the note 3 today by some others so we'll see how that goes and go from there I guess.
I wish Samsung was as helpful as HP was with the touchpad, well that and a device was found with android already on it to help jumpstart that process.
With KitKat incoming, everything is being pushed into hyperdrive. http://m.cnet.com/news/samsung-updates-galaxy-s4-note-3-with-android-kitkat/57619025
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im still waiting for a miui port
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably as long as it takes verizon to put all there bloat in it and chains and shackles to make sure it stays locked down so we can't root it or anything
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qudwis said:
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
DjSkreem said:
VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
I think once Samsung/Verizon are done with it, Kitkat on the non-MDK S4 will look more like Gingerbread than real Kitkat anyways.
DjSkreem said:
VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
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The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
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The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
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I agree.
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qudwis said:
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tomorrow.
Ask me again, tomorrow, and I'll tell you the same.
Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
fillyo said:
They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
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DjSkreem said:
i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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+1
We have Verizon.. So we have great service but have to deal with locked bootloaders and wait forever for OTA updates lol what can we do.. Maybe move over to TMobile?!
Probably what I'll end up doing eventually just to have an updated phone I actually want that can have a custom recovery.
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was in VZW yesterday (held a S5, kinda nice feeling) and asked as they tried to repair my S4. Dude seemed very tech savy until i pointed out VZW is last to get KK. he didnt even know when it'll b out.. Some "flagship" device right? makes me think they'll be pulling a dinc2 ICS move on us
This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
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This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
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VZW has been known to only care about the brand new phones. I had a HTC Droid Incredible 2 and at the time the Inc series was their flagship, but the Dinc2 was still 3g. ICS was getting put on everything and they had their lists out showing what would and wouldn't and our Dinc2's were on the confirmed list just never received nothing . VZW passed blame to HTC and of course HTC passed it right back to VZW. Then about 6 months or so later or so VZW comes out and says our old flagship isnt gettin ICS at all, stated communication errors with just that phone. Wouldnt even release source for it. Now if it was the 4g model, which was the Incredible S, we would've had ICS and source. I dont trust VZW as far as updates and they'll probably state same excuse and offer us a discounted S5 or a free upgrade to switch our plan totally and for us to pay more in about 4 months. If KK drops just be amazed if we get passed 4.4.2. this phone probably wont see 4.4.3
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Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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I, for whatever reason, had very bad luck with data on GE. It forced me back to AOSP 4.3.
Some of us still want a vzw branded KK.
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First day with my edge plus and I'm wondering if there is a root method and any roms worth flashing. Thanks.
Nope. Won't be for a very long time
Doubt there will be one but I am a rootaholic and since I got this phone I haven't felt the need to want to root. Does everything I need well.
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
ljbrenes said:
Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
LaosPerson said:
You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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No issues I bet. But probably a difficult process to get there. T-Mobile seems the best for modification, but anyhow, the s6 edge plus just has a hard lockdown because of Verizon making modification difficult, I looked at the T-Mobile variant forumns and they have a custom kernel and a few stock based modified roms
Hopefully is just a matter of time then. Thanks for the info. In the meantime I downloaded Package Disabler Pro and disabled a bunch of bloatware.
Well if you don't care about texting and talking, the tmobile variants do work with Verizon 4g. I've tested and it connects just fine.
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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how does a rooted g920f aosp rom have to do with a s6e+ on verizon?
those devices have unlocked BLs so they have way more options
I didn't know that. Sorry.
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Lodingi said:
I didn't know that. Sorry.
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no biggie..
to my knowledge i thought even if it did get rooted that it would no longer boot up on vzw/att? pretty sure youd need an unlocked BL regardless which most likely will not happen.. hasnt happened on vzwsammy since early s4 days lol
I don't think these phones have a good chance of getting root unless a universal method like towel root is discovered. Development is pretty much stagnant in the Verizon variants of these phones.
I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
You don't need root for that... All you need is foxfi... Available on the Google play store
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I guess I don't understand what unlimited means.
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I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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That is true, but it's not a dumb statement , because that is part of it too.
So, you order all you can eat fish and get charged more and draw haters because you ate all you could eat. Wouldn't you be pissed if you bought a car with free oil change for life and 2 years later they wanted to start charging you because they never foreseen you actually using it and taking them for their word.
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