Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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If u rly wan speed over features. Aosp roms. Cyanogenmod is one of them tat has the most similarities to stock android on ur nexus.
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alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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Maybe this Afaria thing is causing the problem. It is a security app, so maybe it is running scans, checks etc on the background.
Since you are unrooted i dont know how you can check if it is the culprit... maybe checking your battery statistics can give an idea.
Other option would be to start fresh. Root the phone and install whichever ROM you like and check the performance without installing your apps.
Then install the apps one by one and check which one is the culprit.
*** Dont forget to Backup***
alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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You could try two things.
First: root your phone.
Second: find and apk called Seeder, this apk increase your phone speed reducing the lag and really works.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Standard reply first factory reset .
knarfyo said:
You could try two things.
First: root your phone.
Second: find and apk called Seeder, this apk increase your phone speed reducing the lag and really works.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Thanks for all the replies.
So far, I have done a hard reset and loaded only AI keyboard plus (my favourite keyboard). I'll have a look at Seeder as well.
Alan
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I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
More speed, possibly better battery life, app backups, themes.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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Customization, nerd cred, and a reason to be on XDA (and not a regular android/GT10 enthusiast site).
When I got my Tab 10.1, I was very disappointed with the performance of the stock ROM. I installed the AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROM and haven't looked back since. You need to root your device on order to do this.
Following on from Jay's comment regarding app backups is being able to backup and transfer your saved games between devices. Many of the games that I play don't store their save game files on the SD card and so having root access is the only way to access those files. I've even found an app on Google Play that uses DropBox to automatically sync these files between devices.
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
Also don't forget to pair your ps3 emulator with your tab 10.1
TabGuy said:
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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There is always risk, but with flashing it is next to none. Of course, sometimes there will be times where something may go wrong, but if you follow the guidelines exactly you will be fine.
I have flashed countless times, on many different pieces of hardware and not once have I ever even come close to a black screen, let alone a brick.
Increase in speed, extra customization, getting rid of stock programs that aren't needed (social hub etc) and having total control over a piece of kit that you bought makes it well worth it.
Have just unboxed my Tab about an hour ago, will be flashing it within the next two!
edit: I am now rooted.
TabGuy said:
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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This just about sums up my feelings too.
I've decided to wait until the ICS update and I'll decide from there if I'm happy with the Tab as it is. I'm more inclined to want to root etc, after we've had our final official update from Samsung (will that be ICS?).
I tried ICS for a bit, but didn't see a significant performance increase. I need the camera for work when I do site surveys, so I switched back to one of the honeycomb 3.2 roms that is nearly stock, but has a few extra things I like, such as the power menu. Also, battery life is outstanding on HC
I like being rooted, mostly because you can remove some bloat, and install titanium backup to make backups of your apps and data.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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I just rooted mine but left it on the stock honey comb rom.
The main reason was just to use some of the cool apps in the market like case switch & gesture control & ad block
Just rooting the stock rom is still a great alternative because you don't lose out on anything but gain root.
I didn't put a custom rom on it as I too am fine with the performance of my tab but as soon as ICS comes out for our tab and to camera works I'm jumping straight to AOKP.
My advice is that if you've come across a really cool app that needs root and you've gone:
"Wow! That's awesome. Oh wait, you need root - never mind "
Then root your gab already! otherwise if you don't have any reason to then just leave it and when CM9 or AOKP have fully working features you'll be chomping at the bit to get them.
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Ad block, overclocking, app backup (really everything in Titanium Backup) are the things I reckon I would have a hard time doing without.
Questions go in the Q&A section
I got my 7510 at Xmas. I was really happy with it except for TouchWiz lag. I rooted it within a few weeks. By March I was running a stock ROM - Overcome. That fixed the lag and reboots. I just started overclocking and it's even better now. I just switched to Task 14 (a HC ROM aka working camera) and it's too early to say if it's a keeper but in general my experience just keeps getting better and better (no thanks to Samsung.)
If you're happy with a stock Tab you will be giddy using a new kernel and overclocking. I thought I left my Tab plugged in last night but the charger was pulled out of the power strip. Cut it on and it was at 95% after 18 hours. That's overclocked to 1400.
I can't say enough about the stability, speed and battery conservation that some of these ROMs and kernels provide. People all say this stuff but until you see it first hand you won't realize how much better things can be.
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
Def sounds like a dud there. Try going into Apex launcher and tick the setting to keep the launcher in ram. Ive heard loads of problems about TW reloading itself after running things like the web browser and gaming :/
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
avetny said:
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Shouldn't NEED to be flashing anything, mine was sheer awesome out of the box.
All I've done was flash the insecure kernel... which is the same just adb etc. enabled, and rooted.
avetny said:
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
AndyGalaxy said:
Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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yes
AndyGalaxy said:
Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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Networks do not matter with custom ROMs, as long as you are flashing a ROM for the right phone i.e. the international version, and not the north american version. (which you don't need to worry about yet because it's not out yet)
Check if you have Power Saving turned off. It throttles the CPU making scrolling etc noticeably slower.
Mine loads the weather widget coming out of S-Voice. But other than that never misses a beat. Smooth even when using 90% of its ram.
Did a test of its speed and its above the Asus prime easy, so sounds like you have an issue.
AndyGalaxy said:
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
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Similar issue with my phone... through I have not yet copied my songs and data... but exactly the similar problem...
same here
Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
you all can flash latest version which should help with launcher redraw ... and after that do a full hard reset: *2767*3855#
poke82465 said:
Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
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I'm not having these issues. YouTube in browser is fast and no problems editing.
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Not having any issues. Suggest you uninstall apps and track down what's causing you pain or take it back. There is nothing wrong with this phone. If you are having slow performance obviously a quad core phone may I suggest an iphone.
Yeah I'm being a prick but common sense and a bit of troubleshooting will teach you a life skill.
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This did the trick for me. Also upgrading your firmware would also help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27476986&postcount=39
Edit: phone is now running sweet with above patch and WanamLite, but will give Omega a try soon.
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Same for me
The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors cant release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik it. the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product worse than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
aninim said:
The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors can release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik.ittwik.its a the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product word than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
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Your S2 has had a years worth of development and optimization. I bet you'll say the same about your S3 when we're all using the S4.
I completely agree with the guy. My most common activity on my phone is browsing whilst listening to music, and this phone just can't hack it. Waaaay too regular cut outs, I'm pissed off.
Remove all bloatware and corresponding background services, get a good kernel (Franco r5 is great), you'll find phone is much better, in a few months, it will have moved on loads and will be so much better
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Yall are the odd ones out then. my phone was actually VERY VERY good at multi tasking out of the box. i could surf the web, play my music, and watch a movie with super video....and never get redraws, or hickups, leave apps open and keep going......i could not get it to do any lagging unless you speaking of the micro stutter in home screens. which is gone now with a custom rom and a few misc things here and there.
yall seem to keep wanting to blame it on the phone.....i dont quite understand this.
Hi,
First of all, I did a forum search and it seems that not a lot of people are experiencing the same problem as me with the GS3 (almost all related entries are about HOX).
I own an international Galaxy S3, recently updated to Jelly Bean (Vodafone Spain firmware). Thing is multitasking management in my device is a complete crap... for instance, if I open the Kindle app (or the web browser or any other app), then open another app, wait 20 secs and open Kindle again through the multitasking button... it works as expected, reopening the app in the same state it was... but if I wait around 4 or 5 minutes, multitasking doesnt work, this means when I try to reopen the previous app, the S3 redraws it (refreshes it) so I lose the page i was reading on Kindle or the webpage and scroll I had opened in Chrome, etc etc etc.
It just seems to me that memory management in this device goes like this: "Do a kill -9 to every running app process after a given (short) amount of time".
I really like Android and all that but, coming from an iPhone 4 as my previous phone, I've got to say that multitasking management in iOS was far superior... I could reopen apps that had been several hours in background and it always saved the app state, never experiencing these annoying "refreshes" or "redraws" or whatever it's called.
Is there any fix for this? Maybe some custom ROM with better memory management??
I just want to subscribe this thread. Interesting question!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888081
There, enjoy 7+ apps at the same time.
There are several threads about this already... I know, because I made one of them and there was another one with the same subject. ("Multitasking issues?" And the other one was something with ram
To the topic, I'm having the same issues, but on the galaxy S2 I didn't experience such problems. I don't know but something is really f***** up with the memory management...
You can try making a swap partition, there is a thread somewhere on here about how to make one. That'll dump some memory on the SD CARD. Instead of killing the app..
I can assure you it is not a general android problem. As on the s2 with the same amount of memory (1gb) I didn't have any problems. I thought this phone would be an upgrade.. it is in many ways, but the memory management is really a huge let down...
So my recommendation for you is to first try to remove the bloatware (apps of Samsung or other using memory which you don't need) and see if it makes a change.
If you're still not satisfied try the swap partition.
This phone with it's current software configuration needed 1.5gb of Ram, but with some mods and tweaks you'll be fine!
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Same problem here
http://android.caotic.it/2012/10/samsung-galaxy-s3-presto-jelly-bean-4-1-2-con-multi-window/
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Put Samsung and Google against the wall...
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
hassebasse said:
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
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Remember, this is the first Jellybean update batch, there should be tons of updates later fixing bugs instead of getting it "working", 1GB is enough when managed properly.
hassebasse said:
I'd argue that it is a general android issue. I had exactly the same problem with a htc One X, which also has a high res screen and only 1Gb of mem.
I think the problems with the S3 is ignored because lots of the reports on the web about the S3 is about the US version, which runs fine on it's 2Gb.
This IS a big issue, and i wish someone with a bit of authority would stand up and put Samsung and Google against the wall.
The customers shouldn't have to tweak the OS by adding adding virtual memory management, and whatnot to get basic functionality working.
I had no problems running web radio software in the background on my htc Desire, but with my S3 I can't have anything in the background basically.
This really needs to be resolved. I'd rather have a simpler launcher and having RAM enough to keep stuff running in the background.
I'm running JB since a week ago now, and the behaviour is the same.
I must say I'm dissapointed with Android, first having to live with the Desire for years, that came with next to no space to install apps and now th S3 having no RAM to run in...
Hans
GS3 Swedish 9300 w 4.1
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The US 2gb version has a max hidden app limit of 50 hence no complaints.
The others have a 20 max hidden app limit.
Most android devices have a 15 max hidden app limit and some sense roms it's as low as 10.
How do I know?
Because I fixed it
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
There are other vital changes that I make but Maximum Overdrive the biggie.
Skander1998 said:
Remember, this is the first Jellybean update batch, there should be tons of updates later fixing bugs instead of getting it "working", 1GB is enough when managed properly.
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The problems are identical on 4.0.4, and I've not seen any acknowledgement on the issues neither from Samsung or Google. I used to think the Apple believers were the most tolerant to absent functionality, but this really puts us on the top as android users. I would probably accept it from a low end device for $100, but the S3 is the pinnacle, the superphone, in short, the dogs bollocks, or awesome, like a hundred billion hotdogs.
I think it just stinks and the thought of having to keep using the S3 every day for a year or two in the current sorry state really pisses me off. The thing is it's my work phone, and I don't expect I'll get a new premium phone if I try 'scrapgrading' it. If it was mine, I'll sell it in a hartbeat.
/Hans
The same non-existing multitasking brought me here. I got my GSG3 on Saturday, 4 days ago. Am loving it so far.
But one thing I was looking forward the most is mostly absent: switching between apps without them reloading every time I access them again.
I had a HTC Sensation (768mb RAM) where as soon as I left the browser and returned to it, the page was being reloaded, even if I just left quickly for checking my mails or whatsapp. Not cool if you're surfng on your mobile network and have a datacap. Same goes for Games.
Then I had a Xperia S (1 GB Ram) for a few weeks. Same crap. Even if I didn't leave the game but just clicked the standby button, the game would reload when unlockign the phone a few minutes later.
Am really disappointed to see this happen all over again with the Galaxy S3. iOS might not have real multitasking, but I'd take it any day over the crap we are being served.
Just ****ing freeze the app if you can't make it run constantly in the background, I don't care, I just want it to resume EXACTLY where I left it.
I always had the impression its because of low RAM. Even with the SGS3, my RAM is usually something like 730/833mb without really doing anything. Even after clearing memory it's still 614/833mb used. Of course stuff's gonna close.
I really wanted to go for a 2GB model but there simply is nothing on the market here in europe apart from the new Nexus 4. I actually wanted that one real bad - until I learned about 16GB, no SD Card slot and non-removable battery.
So yeah the SGS3 is awesome in many ways, but this blows. I have yet to find a phone that satisfies all my needs. Oh well maybe with the S4, but there's always something isn't it?>.<
before S3 a had a HTC Sensation..multi tasking din't work at all, it always refresh|reload apps
on S3 and android 4.0.4 i think multitasking work better but not so good
as far as i know the only one phone work well with multitasking is Google Nexus and the phones with clean OS from Google.
others brand make modification with OS for their launcher etc and multitasking was broken
This problem is so annoying. Even on my HTC Desire HD switching between apps worked better. I really hate Samsung for all the Touchwiz bloatware crap and for not releasing the Exynos sources/documentation.
Well, I don't have such problems, multitasking is working just fine here unless I open a 2 gb game or Google maps or Google Earth. My ram is between 530 and 640. I have some redraws on home screen sometimes, especially on the weather widget, I can't deny that. Also is true, no 2 gigs phone in Europe until now. I bought mine in May. I will get the S4 next year. Hope to see a better and faster phone.
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demlasjr said:
Well, I don't have such problems, multitasking is working just fine here unless I open a 2 gb game or Google maps or Google Earth. My ram is between 530 and 640. I have some redraws on home screen sometimes, especially on the weather widget, I can't deny that. Also is true, no 2 gigs phone in Europe until now. I bought mine in May. I will get the S4 next year. Hope to see a better and faster phone.
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demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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I agree with you bro....I am struggling to find an alternate solution to this problem as I don't want to root my phone as I just bought it 15 days back.
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Read my post on page 1.
Its fixed.
Yesterdays update makes the fix all automatc.
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
zeppelinrox said:
Read my post on page 1.
Its fixed.
Yesterdays update makes the fix all automatc.
http://goo.gl/IvGL1
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To be honest, saying something is fixed, and then pointing people to a page that suggests a fix which is just as confusing and difficult to use as the supercharger script, which I could not get to work for love nor money, won't help the majority of people who want a nice and easy fix to something that requires a nice and easy fix.
I tried the supercharger script a number of times and could never get it to stick no matter what I tried so the multitasking patch surely will be just as difficult to get working for the layman as that.
What people really need is a CWM runnable file that fixes this issue.
I will personally use a custom ROM that manages to fix or at least alleviate the issues until Nexus 4 comes back into stock or the Optimus G comes out next year lol.
Vipeout said:
demlasjr, close all apps and then try opening a page in the browser, leave with home key. start a game, leave again. then open whatsapp/messaging and leave again. finally, open any other app (FB or youtube or whatever) and leave one more time with home button.
Thats just 4 (four) apps! By now the phone has killed your game and your browser. Just bring up the recent apps menu and switch back to the browser. It will reload your entire page from scratch, not a big deal when on wifi but a real pain in the ass when on mobile data. Now try switching to you game, it will reload from the starting screen instead of from where you left.
This IS an issue. People in denial are either oblivious to it (the average user sure is) or they don't mind their apps relaoding from scratch. I could make a nice video to show it since alot of ppl pretend they don't have the problem, but I'm too lazy to prove the obvious and since our international GSG3's all run on 1gb and more or less the same firmware, this simply can not be the case. What is possible is people using only 2-3 apps all the time, thus they never experience the problem. But there are others who don't use their smartphones only for texting and FB.
As a reference, see this thread http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/629432-multitasking.html. Exactly what I'm talking about.
Only remedy so far is installing aokp, it alleviates the problem a bit because it allows more open apps. it's still not good.
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I tried mate. I tried with Tapatalk + whatapp + yahoo mail in Dolphin + cut the rope. Everything works fine and no redraws or refreshes. Only with Google Earth and Maps or very very big games. I can even make a video to shop you that I have no issues. Try this combination and let me know if you have redraws
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I've got 2 Notes to play with as my gf and I both got new phones last week. One is going up for sale but the other is staying around as a backup device incase one of us (her) breaks our phone. I wanted to repurpose it to act as GPS and audio source in the work van. It currently runs Liquidsmooth 4.4 which I was happy with as a phone ROM.
Question is does anyone know of an even slimmer ROM since I do not need phone functions at all? Would it even make a difference if I was to strip it down to the functions I want to lighten it up?
Pretty much all I need is tablet functions, my S5 will provide wifi for streaming. Even the browser is extraneous, beyond Pandora and Play Music I won't need much besides Maps.
The device will work fine for me with full LS, but I was curious how light I could get the ROM. I've never tried such a thing.
Drew
delawaredrew said:
I've got 2 Notes to play with as my gf and I both got new phones last week. One is going up for sale but the other is staying around as a backup device incase one of us (her) breaks our phone. I wanted to repurpose it to act as GPS and audio source in the work van. It currently runs Liquidsmooth 4.4 which I was happy with as a phone ROM.
Question is does anyone know of an even slimmer ROM since I do not need phone functions at all? Would it even make a difference if I was to strip it down to the functions I want to lighten it up?
Pretty much all I need is tablet functions, my S5 will provide wifi for streaming. Even the browser is extraneous, beyond Pandora and Play Music I won't need much besides Maps.
The device will work fine for me with full LS, but I was curious how light I could get the ROM. I've never tried such a thing.
Drew
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If you have TiBu, you could freeze anything you dont use. Dont want to delete as you dont really know what itty bitty things you may need for functionality.
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captemo said:
If you have TiBu, you could freeze anything you dont use. Dont want to delete as you dont really know what itty bitty things you may need for functionality.
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Yeah I was thinking the same. I was hoping someone had built a ROM off the media player Samsung made but no evidence of it. For the time being I'm just gonna run LS with no unnecessary apps added. I may reinstall it with the bare minimum of GApps to further clean it up but I kinda like the idea of having a mini tablet for the work day. Because the S5 and Nexus 7 I carry just aren't enough!
It might even be a good reason to try to learn to build a ROM myself although very few people would need it. I've always wanted to try it.
So my experiment in repurposing a Note as my GPS isn't going very well. It has a fresh 4.4 install with almost no unnecessary apps. I've disabled all the apps that I can.
I use the S5 as a hotspot to feed data, since although you can cache Google Maps apparently you can't search them without data. Other free GPS apps have not panned out well either. The open source maps they use are often missing street addresses and/or whole streets. I may spend a few $ on a prepaid SIM to to solve this.
1st - Battery Life is horrible, I can't figure out why. I'm running LiquidSmooth which gave me great battery life as a phone, even using GPS didn't drain like it does now. I even bought a new battery to try to rule that out. 1 hour of driving up to Seattle today killed 50% of the battery. Perhaps the lack of cell connection is a problem here but even wifi with airplane mode enabled (yes you can do this) this setup eats battery at a rate faster than the charger can supply. I can use a 2A charger but am low on outlets and work would dislike a hardwired charger.
2nd - Frequent reboots when using any music player while using GPS. I've tried Apollo, Play Music, PowerAmp and a few I don't recall. Players work OK; GPS works ok; but together... I rarely get more than 15 minutes with no reboots. If I can't have music and GPS it defeats the point of this.
3rd - The screen just isn't bright enough, in the few sunny days we've had it is difficult to see the maps in some lights. I dislike spoken directions (see #4) so this is a real problem and likely what will doom this plan since I can't change this.
4th - Spoken directions are the same volume as whatever media I am listening to, so they regularly blare out repetitive instructions at high volume.
5th - I need a better keyboard to operate the device at a distance since Google voice search is not good at understanding addresses.
Any ideas to mitigate these issues are welcome; I especially dislike the battery and reboot problems. Perhaps I'll install the mini or micro GApps package to dump some unneeded Google Apps?
It's only been a few days but if this stuff continues I will not keep using it as I already opt to not turn it on sometimes because it likes to reboot at crucial times. Unfortunately I modded my proper GPS cradle to hold the Note so a new GPS may be in order.
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
IrethTassartir said:
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
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For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
madbat99 said:
For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
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I'm on latest Android 6 stock, unencrypted and Fire Ice kernel. its running fine and if use the chrome that comes with the stock and don't update it, it will run fine.
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
IrethTassartir said:
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
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That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
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That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
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But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
IrethTassartir said:
But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
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Good to hear. That usually is the fix for that.
Please, just to confirm, is this "image-volantis-n9f27l" official ROM or it's custom ROM?
I also use this bootloader : "bootloader-flounder-3.50.0.0143" since other ones didn't work for me.
I was with support trying to solve issue of Device restarting every time I install new app or update app, and while trying to clear cache partition, it gone to my device not wanting to boot. so i had to factory reset, and it still won't start android in full. so i have to reflash ROM. I guess.
I'm kinda lost now cause i don't know what to do.
As said i just want for my device to be rooted so i can delete all apps i don't need and change launcher (deleting existing one - well i don't know if it's smart or not. i figure why having two launcers when i will use only one).
And i want to play games and use apps without it failing on me all the time.