I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
More speed, possibly better battery life, app backups, themes.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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Customization, nerd cred, and a reason to be on XDA (and not a regular android/GT10 enthusiast site).
When I got my Tab 10.1, I was very disappointed with the performance of the stock ROM. I installed the AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROM and haven't looked back since. You need to root your device on order to do this.
Following on from Jay's comment regarding app backups is being able to backup and transfer your saved games between devices. Many of the games that I play don't store their save game files on the SD card and so having root access is the only way to access those files. I've even found an app on Google Play that uses DropBox to automatically sync these files between devices.
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
Also don't forget to pair your ps3 emulator with your tab 10.1
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I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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There is always risk, but with flashing it is next to none. Of course, sometimes there will be times where something may go wrong, but if you follow the guidelines exactly you will be fine.
I have flashed countless times, on many different pieces of hardware and not once have I ever even come close to a black screen, let alone a brick.
Increase in speed, extra customization, getting rid of stock programs that aren't needed (social hub etc) and having total control over a piece of kit that you bought makes it well worth it.
Have just unboxed my Tab about an hour ago, will be flashing it within the next two!
edit: I am now rooted.
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I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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This just about sums up my feelings too.
I've decided to wait until the ICS update and I'll decide from there if I'm happy with the Tab as it is. I'm more inclined to want to root etc, after we've had our final official update from Samsung (will that be ICS?).
I tried ICS for a bit, but didn't see a significant performance increase. I need the camera for work when I do site surveys, so I switched back to one of the honeycomb 3.2 roms that is nearly stock, but has a few extra things I like, such as the power menu. Also, battery life is outstanding on HC
I like being rooted, mostly because you can remove some bloat, and install titanium backup to make backups of your apps and data.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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I just rooted mine but left it on the stock honey comb rom.
The main reason was just to use some of the cool apps in the market like case switch & gesture control & ad block
Just rooting the stock rom is still a great alternative because you don't lose out on anything but gain root.
I didn't put a custom rom on it as I too am fine with the performance of my tab but as soon as ICS comes out for our tab and to camera works I'm jumping straight to AOKP.
My advice is that if you've come across a really cool app that needs root and you've gone:
"Wow! That's awesome. Oh wait, you need root - never mind "
Then root your gab already! otherwise if you don't have any reason to then just leave it and when CM9 or AOKP have fully working features you'll be chomping at the bit to get them.
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Ad block, overclocking, app backup (really everything in Titanium Backup) are the things I reckon I would have a hard time doing without.
Questions go in the Q&A section
I got my 7510 at Xmas. I was really happy with it except for TouchWiz lag. I rooted it within a few weeks. By March I was running a stock ROM - Overcome. That fixed the lag and reboots. I just started overclocking and it's even better now. I just switched to Task 14 (a HC ROM aka working camera) and it's too early to say if it's a keeper but in general my experience just keeps getting better and better (no thanks to Samsung.)
If you're happy with a stock Tab you will be giddy using a new kernel and overclocking. I thought I left my Tab plugged in last night but the charger was pulled out of the power strip. Cut it on and it was at 95% after 18 hours. That's overclocked to 1400.
I can't say enough about the stability, speed and battery conservation that some of these ROMs and kernels provide. People all say this stuff but until you see it first hand you won't realize how much better things can be.
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Dear community,
I've rooted my TFP using the guide from xda. To be honest, I didn't mean to, I read the guide and got carried away with it . Finally the root is good now. As a windows guy and with slight understanding of linux I'm pretty new to android.
My question is, now that my tablet is rooted, how can I take advantage of it? What are the recommended apps? Any known tweaks?
Please enlighten me
Search 'root' on android market.
Titanium Backup is useful, Ghost Commander or EZ file, there are also apps to remote control your tablet, you can use new launchers - trebuchet launcher or nova launcher on rooted devices.
You can also delete system files, so be careful.
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
While I haven't rooted my Prime yet, I'm only in day 6 and waiting until the "send it back" period elapses I rooted my moto Atrix2 almost immediately. I installed Titanium Backup as well as System Tuner, and a couple other root only apps. The primary reason for rooting the Atrix2 was to freeze Carrier ID as I don't care for ATT snooping on me with without so much as a by your leave. In any case I'll probably root the Prime just to get more control over what the device is doing when it's in standby. For instance I am hoping to be able to use Tasker to shut off the wifi after 5 or 10 minutes in standby in order to save battery power and turn it back on,when I wake up the tablet. Maybe find a way to create different, more detailed power profiles for different activities. I've done a lot of this on the Atrix2 and seen some significant increases in battery life because of it.
Q
coogrrr94 said:
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
Swiftks said:
Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
I haven't rooted my TFP, but I'm seriously considering doing so. The main reason is that most of (good) adbockers require root access. Loading all this rubbish adds, many of them being large flash animations, slows down browsing experience significantly. I want to get rid of them and the only way I know is by rooting Android.
For me about the biggest thing is "AdAway" or any other app for updating host file.
Never see one single ad on your device again. Less anoyance, faster loading times in browser, less data consumption ...
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
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You've never used CM7 then... soon to be CM9.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
for some time now i'm planning to get my first android phone. atrix was my first favourite, but it's pretty expensive. in the meantime, google nexus s caught my eye, and i've been trying to find it, but it's almost impossible to find in my country. so, i decided to save some more money and go for atrix. reading a lot about it on the internet, i have some concerns.
1.) i've been reading a lot of opinions that atrix, despite its impressive hardware, often lags, has a lot of bugs; all in all that user experience is not smooth as it should be with phone this powerful. i'd like to hear your opinions.
2.) how is battery life? would it last a whole day with this scenario: brightnes on max, 1 hour wi-fi, 5-10 minutes talk, 30 minutes gaming/using apps, half an hour reading, watching one movie.
3.) is blur ui really that awful? i see a lot of people complaining about it. is it removed from custom roms?
4.) what actions cause phone brick? i've red that downgrading an os causes bricking, so it means if i install custom ics rom, and don't like it, i'll be stuck with it because i can't roll back to stock gingerbread or i'll brick my phone?
5.) coming from WM, i've seen a lot of compatibility problems with apps/games. how is the situation here? will atrix run every (or almost every) app/game?
6.) how does it cope with demanding games like shadowgun, backstab, nova...?
7.) can rooting cause any problems?
8.) anything else, you'd like to add.
thanks in advance.
at this point in the atrix's life... pretty much all of your questions/concerns have been addressed.
read the noob guide that's pinned in the general atrix forum.
take some time to search and read through the atrix forums.
like I said... the answers are out there.
Look at this thread i made when i was considering buying the atrix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478124
Lots of usefull infos and opinions.
Im very happy with my Atrix. After installing custom roms, the perfomance bumps A LOT. Im using Nottachtrix 4G right now, and my phone is flying.
1.) I believe that it's not as bad as people say, things got better with GB, and really it's just the launcher that's laggy, which can be replaced easily through the market. My favorite is ADW EX, very smooth, very clean
2.) that depends on a few things, typically i believe the stock and blur based roms are the best in terms of battery, then CM7 roms are close behind, and CM9 is not so great. Not sure for those exact uses, but i believe the atrix is above par for android phone
3.) There not really much to blur IMO, just some widgets and app replacements. Without any rooting or unlocking you can get make the launcher look relatively stock. And of course any CM7, CM9, or MIUI based roms aren't going to have blur at all
4.) I'm pretty sure this just referrer to downgrading from Stock 2.3 GB back to an early stock 2.2 froyo rom, which honestly i don't see why anyone would do that at this point, after you get to GB and unlock it you can move to any custom rom and back to stock 2.3GB if you'd like. Bricking usually happens when don't thoroughly follow directions, i haven't bricked my phone yet and this is my first android phone as well
5.) Very few to none really, there are a few games that require, certain chipset, like OMAP, tegra, etc. but this can be fixed by install chainfire 3d. So when you get your phone it'll be compatible with 99% of apps out of the gate there aren't any i've run into yet
6.) Quite well, many apps are specifically tuned toward tegra, and it's capable as it is
7.) I think i read that, if your on stock with root permission, you can't receive OTA updates, but on any custom rom it's not a problem
8.) I believe the Atrix has a relatively strong dev community, just a quick look at the number of posts on this site, the Atrix has one of the top.
Im using atrix for 7 months now...its my first android phone and after a lot surfing in net i bought this one....believe me its the best.
With the usage like u mentioned it surely lasts for one day...it has d powerful battery 1900mAh! Blur UI is really good (in 2.3.4)...those all might be related to 2.2.1 but after the update its good...
It takes really good HD vdos...great pics(xcept night shots)....touch and rest is awesome
Go for it.....!
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The Atrix is a good investment. Look at the phones coming out today. What do they have over this phone? Pretty much nothing. They usually have higher stock CPU speeds but other than that they are similar. This phone is a year old and still had enough specs to run with phones coming out. Until the 4-plus-1 chips start showing up in phones you can't get much better. Unless you want a bigger screen.
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Once I moved to Atrix from my iPhone 3G I could never go back. This thing is a powerhouse. It replaced my computer for me. The battery is pretty good for a dual core device. So long as you know not to keep useless apps running in the background (which there are apps out there that automatically take care of that).
I have experienced several bugs here and there but it's nothing major. Extremely fast browsing experience as well.
I would definitely recommend this to anyone. Especially once you root this thing, it turns into a super powerhouse
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
andrawer said:
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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Android Newbie ... Rooting i717 with stock JB?
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
olliesshop said:
I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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If u rly wan speed over features. Aosp roms. Cyanogenmod is one of them tat has the most similarities to stock android on ur nexus.
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alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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Maybe this Afaria thing is causing the problem. It is a security app, so maybe it is running scans, checks etc on the background.
Since you are unrooted i dont know how you can check if it is the culprit... maybe checking your battery statistics can give an idea.
Other option would be to start fresh. Root the phone and install whichever ROM you like and check the performance without installing your apps.
Then install the apps one by one and check which one is the culprit.
*** Dont forget to Backup***
alan sh said:
Please bear with me on this - it will end up with me asking which rom to use (so, mods - if you must delete it, I've been honest up front) but I do have a specific need.
I have had my S3 since August 2012. It's been on Android 4.1 until the recent update to 4.3. All that time I have been really unhappy with the performance. I've not rooted it or changed any kernels/roms - I've been a good boy and stuck with Samsungs TouchWiz and their interpretations.
But the performance is diabolical. It can take 7 seconds (I've timed it) from when I touch the phone icon on the main screen to when the number pad appears so I can actually phone someone. Sometimes its quicker - but never less than 2 seconds. Other apps are equally as bad.
I have tried everything I can think of to speed it up. I've got no animation (I've enabled developer mode) and done anything I can see to try and make it work at a reasonable speed. I've even done a complete wipe and reset and re-loaded my apps - no difference.
OK, you say - but what are you running? Well, not much. I use my phone as a phone, to check emails (my works email, so I have to have Afaria as a security app) and to read Kindle books. Occasionally I will use it to surf the internet using Dolphin. I have a 16Gb microSD card with my music on it which I listen to when I am in the gym. I've put on MicroCPU Monitor so I can see if the CPU is clogging up (it's not). That's about it. I don't play games.
So, now we come to the question. Is there anything I can do without putting a new ROM on to make it work at what I consider a good speed? If not (and here is where the mods will get me), which ROM will give me speed? I'm not after fancy features, I just want a ROM that makes my phone work like a phone - not a lump of electronics with a mind of its own. [I do know how to root and upgrade as I have a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 and an HP TouchPad]
I would appreciate some answers or at least ask me more questions that I can go and investigate.
Thanks for any advice.
Alan
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You could try two things.
First: root your phone.
Second: find and apk called Seeder, this apk increase your phone speed reducing the lag and really works.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Standard reply first factory reset .
knarfyo said:
You could try two things.
First: root your phone.
Second: find and apk called Seeder, this apk increase your phone speed reducing the lag and really works.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Thanks for all the replies.
So far, I have done a hard reset and loaded only AI keyboard plus (my favourite keyboard). I'll have a look at Seeder as well.
Alan