Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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Android Newbie ... Rooting i717 with stock JB?
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
andrawer said:
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
More speed, possibly better battery life, app backups, themes.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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Customization, nerd cred, and a reason to be on XDA (and not a regular android/GT10 enthusiast site).
When I got my Tab 10.1, I was very disappointed with the performance of the stock ROM. I installed the AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROM and haven't looked back since. You need to root your device on order to do this.
Following on from Jay's comment regarding app backups is being able to backup and transfer your saved games between devices. Many of the games that I play don't store their save game files on the SD card and so having root access is the only way to access those files. I've even found an app on Google Play that uses DropBox to automatically sync these files between devices.
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
Also don't forget to pair your ps3 emulator with your tab 10.1
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I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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There is always risk, but with flashing it is next to none. Of course, sometimes there will be times where something may go wrong, but if you follow the guidelines exactly you will be fine.
I have flashed countless times, on many different pieces of hardware and not once have I ever even come close to a black screen, let alone a brick.
Increase in speed, extra customization, getting rid of stock programs that aren't needed (social hub etc) and having total control over a piece of kit that you bought makes it well worth it.
Have just unboxed my Tab about an hour ago, will be flashing it within the next two!
edit: I am now rooted.
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I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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This just about sums up my feelings too.
I've decided to wait until the ICS update and I'll decide from there if I'm happy with the Tab as it is. I'm more inclined to want to root etc, after we've had our final official update from Samsung (will that be ICS?).
I tried ICS for a bit, but didn't see a significant performance increase. I need the camera for work when I do site surveys, so I switched back to one of the honeycomb 3.2 roms that is nearly stock, but has a few extra things I like, such as the power menu. Also, battery life is outstanding on HC
I like being rooted, mostly because you can remove some bloat, and install titanium backup to make backups of your apps and data.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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I just rooted mine but left it on the stock honey comb rom.
The main reason was just to use some of the cool apps in the market like case switch & gesture control & ad block
Just rooting the stock rom is still a great alternative because you don't lose out on anything but gain root.
I didn't put a custom rom on it as I too am fine with the performance of my tab but as soon as ICS comes out for our tab and to camera works I'm jumping straight to AOKP.
My advice is that if you've come across a really cool app that needs root and you've gone:
"Wow! That's awesome. Oh wait, you need root - never mind "
Then root your gab already! otherwise if you don't have any reason to then just leave it and when CM9 or AOKP have fully working features you'll be chomping at the bit to get them.
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Ad block, overclocking, app backup (really everything in Titanium Backup) are the things I reckon I would have a hard time doing without.
Questions go in the Q&A section
I got my 7510 at Xmas. I was really happy with it except for TouchWiz lag. I rooted it within a few weeks. By March I was running a stock ROM - Overcome. That fixed the lag and reboots. I just started overclocking and it's even better now. I just switched to Task 14 (a HC ROM aka working camera) and it's too early to say if it's a keeper but in general my experience just keeps getting better and better (no thanks to Samsung.)
If you're happy with a stock Tab you will be giddy using a new kernel and overclocking. I thought I left my Tab plugged in last night but the charger was pulled out of the power strip. Cut it on and it was at 95% after 18 hours. That's overclocked to 1400.
I can't say enough about the stability, speed and battery conservation that some of these ROMs and kernels provide. People all say this stuff but until you see it first hand you won't realize how much better things can be.
First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Okay ....
Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
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I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
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Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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Hey guys,
Just got the phone the other day.
Some guy got it as free upgrade on billpay with vodafone but decided to keep his current phone and sell this on so I got it for a great deal.
I unlocked it and changed network and everything is fine EXCEPT.
It's running really slowly for some things, especially dialer, contacts and messages.
It's on 4.1.2 by the way.
I tried resetting to factory, wiping caches, reinstalling update through Kies, resetting to factory, wiping caches again.
Nothing helps.
Seems like a lot of other folks are experiencing this crap since JB switchover from ICS.
Is there any fix for this apart from rooting and installing custom ROM?
Didn't think I'd have to go the the hassle of doing this with such an expensive phone. At times it feels like my old Vodafone 858 smart
Seriously, it can take 4-5 seconds to open contacts, dialer or messages.
Once you open them they open fast after that, until they are released from ram again.
If Samsung are aware of this and are planning an update I will hold out for that, but otherwise, root + modded ROM I reckon, as this feels like a budget phone, not an S3.
This is really crap as I was all excited to finally have a nice , quick , responsive smart phone after well over a year on my old 858 smart.
A little underwhelmed to say the least.
I tried all the fixes like animations to 0.5x and turning off location data etc.. but no difference.
The hardware seems to be fine as it got 15700 I think it was in An tu tu, and everything registered as it should. Seems like hopelessly unoptomised software to me.
Any tips, fixes or suggestions form anyone would be welcomed.
Thanks,
Mark.
All of us have to deal with this crap. Try using a not-Samsung dialer, messenger, etc.
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All of us have to deal with this crap. Try using a not-Samsung dialer, messenger, etc.
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Tried contacts+ and was still not as responsive as I would have hoped.
I actually like the samsung default functions if they worked faster.
Is there any rom that keeps the default look and functions but is a lot better optomised and has better memory management?
I might go that route if there was such a thing?
Don't want to use a rom that would loose functions the phone has, just something more streamlined and a lot quicker.
Don't know anything about roms so any suggestions would be welcomed.
Do you reckon this might actually be officially fixed in a future update? Is there enough people complaining about these issues to raise a flag with samsung?
Feared it was a faulty phone, but after reading lots of similar reports I am at least glad that it appears to be software not hardware.
Just pick any stock based ROM. My recommendation is in a PM, because I don't want to start a flame war.
I don't know about future updates, but I don't think that they give a damn about what the community thinks/wants. (the community asked for documentation of the processor and they gave us nothing aside from stuff they had to release cuz law)
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CuttyCZ said:
Just pick any stock based ROM. My recommendation is in a PM, because I don't want to start a flame war.
I don't know about future updates, but I don't think that they give a damn about what the community thinks/wants. (the community asked for documentation of the processor and they gave us nothing aside from stuff they had to release cuz law)
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Thanks mate, I just sent you a reply.
MarcuS_IRL said:
Tried contacts+ and was still not as responsive as I would have hoped.
I actually like the samsung default functions if they worked faster.
Is there any rom that keeps the default look and functions but is a lot better optomised and has better memory management?
I might go that route if there was such a thing?
Don't want to use a rom that would loose functions the phone has, just something more streamlined and a lot quicker.
Don't know anything about roms so any suggestions would be welcomed.
Do you reckon this might actually be officially fixed in a future update? Is there enough people complaining about these issues to raise a flag with samsung?
Feared it was a faulty phone, but after reading lots of similar reports I am at least glad that it appears to be software not hardware.
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Try exdialer from PlayStore.....it's very fast
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asdf20 said:
Try exdialer from PlayStore.....it's very fast
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Thanks but I like the look of the default one.
Just rooted and installed Wanam lite and it's definitely a lot snappier. Still the problem with the dialer, contacts and message app being dropped from memory after not being used for a while.
Is there a way to edit files to lock the dialer, contacts and message apps to memory permanently?
That would solve the problem.
Cheers,
Mark.
MarcuS_IRL said:
Thanks but I like the look of the default one.
Just rooted and installed Wanam lite and it's definitely a lot snappier. Still the problem with the dialer, contacts and message app being dropped from memory after not being used for a while.
Is there a way to edit files to lock the dialer, contacts and message apps to memory permanently?
That would solve the problem.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Keeping the contacts and dialer in memory is one of my favorite features of JKay's Mod. I'd highly recommend that you check it out and can't say enough good about the Deluxe settings application itself (paid app on the Play store) because it allows you to fully customize the stock look and feel to your liking.
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Keeping the contacts and dialer in memory is one of my favorite features of JKay's Mod. I'd highly recommend that you check it out and can't say enough good about the Deluxe settings application itself (paid app on the Play store) because it allows you to fully customize the stock look and feel to your liking.
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Can I use jkays mod over the rom I just installed? or is it a separate rom?
If it will work with my rom can you give me a link to the latest version please?
Cheers.
MarcuS_IRL said:
Can I use jkays mod over the rom I just installed? or is it a separate rom?
If it will work with my rom can you give me a link to the latest version please?
Cheers.
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Not sure which version you installed, but you'll find all the supported versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807819
It's by far my favorite all-around mod for the SIII, and I have been a fan of it since owning the SII, which is now my wife's phone.
donalgodon said:
Not sure which version you installed, but you'll find all the supported versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807819
It's by far my favorite all-around mod for the SIII, and I have been a fan of it since owning the SII, which is now my wife's phone.
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Thanks mate.
I checked I installed GT-I9300_WanamLite.XXEMB5.V6.2.NO-WIPE .zip
I checked version number with *#1234# and it's 19300xxemb5 so I downloaded XXEMB5_JKay_Deluxe_Stock_v14_92_9.zip , is this correct?
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Did the above steps and works fine. Installed the Deluxe settings too from google play.
Man the difference now is something else.
Thanks guys for all your help, phone is brilliant now.
Its a bit of work but ASOP is very nice as well, you should do a nadroid backup and have a quick look at CM10.1
Since the new mali drivers, its been very good and super fast on all screens.
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Its a bit of work but ASOP is very nice as well, you should do a nadroid backup and have a quick look at CM10.1
Since the new mali drivers, its been very good and super fast on all screens.
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Will keep this in mind in case I have any issues in the future, but for now it's running great.
After a day of using the Wanam lite rom I am happy enough but would like to see if I could get better performance.
Even with this Rom and the JK framework and settings app I still get the occasional bit of lag, especially when using the dialer, and contacts.
Even though with the whitelist checked in JK it seems that the dialer and contacts still get kicked out of ram after a while.
Am interested in finding the smoothest, fastest rom that has instant response with dialer and contacts and also has the latest features.
I don't want to loose any features the phone had by default either.
There are so many roms available and they all claim to be super smooth and fast, so it's hard to know which to use.
I don't want to spend a whole week installing rom after rom.
Would appreciate some feedback from you guys that have tried them all as to which is the smoothest, and is there any that has instant response with dialer and contacts. Hopefully a rom that performance doesn't degrade the longer the phone is running either.
Am I asking for too much or is there such a Rom?
Cheers,
Mark.
Please?
So, first of all - hey, guys, greetings from a fellow modder
I have an Xperia U that needs to work faster than it does at the moment It was fine during the first two months or so and then it started to slow down and now it needs a reboot every 2 days or so. There are two paths to making it better, I guess:
1. Tweaking the current (stock) ROM (Is there anywhere a complete list of Sony's bloatware that can be safely frozen (I've got TB Pro) without causing any force closes? That would be the greatest thing. (please don't recommend using Greenify instead :silly: )
2. What ROMs would you recommend from your U xperience so far? (Note that I need the illumination bar, the front cam, video recording and bluetooth to work properly)
Current firmware on it is: 6.1.1.B.1.10. It's rooted, but the bootloader is still locked
Cheers and thanks in advance!
If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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Oh, boy, now I'm embarrassed that I haven't thought of that plan myself That's the way to do it, then. Just need to setup CWM and I'll get down to experimenting.
Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
Thanks for helping!
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Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
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I know exactly what you mean -- I would love my phone to be faster but I just can't face going back to GB and now, having moved to JB I'm not sure I could even go back to ICS. It just seems wrong to have to "downgrade" anything to make it better.
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Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
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I'm currently using kantry123's v7 version of pipi14's JB rom which has a number of fixes on top of the previous v6. It's nice to use but it definitely has issues;
LED bar doesn't work properly
Front camera doesn't work
Low memory causing launcher redraws and other issues
The front camera I don't need so it doesn't bother me, but the other two are an issue. I'm actively investigating fixes and workarounds for the LED bar to see if I can get it working a bit more to my liking. The low memory though, that's pretty much impossible to solve. I've managed to get around some of the problems by using the Experimental v8 kernel and tweaking the minfree values to be quite low but I'm still playing around to try to get the best result.
Whilst I'm very grateful for being able to run JB on my XU, I can't honestly say that I'm happy with the result. But with that said, I am a lot happier with this setup than I was with the stock ICS update that I got, which just made my phone horrible to use.