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I am by no means new to the rooting world, I have several android phones starting with the moto d1, d2, and an inc. After moving to the thunderbolt I am seeing people are having a lot of issues with rooting and what not else. My question is, is it even safe to root and flash ROMs at this time, or is it better to wait till the issues get worked out?
people who have issues are the ones who do not follow directions.
jmc2543 said:
I am by no means new to the rooting world, I have several android phones starting with the moto d1, d2, and an inc. After moving to the thunderbolt I am seeing people are having a lot of issues with rooting and what not else. My question is, is it even safe to root and flash ROMs at this time, or is it better to wait till the issues get worked out?
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I have a rooted thunderbolt myself. I am using synergy's nightly Rom and I love it. My phone runs ten times better. I say go ahead and root. Just make sure you follow directions thoroughly.
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Exactly as stated above
I'm curious... Where did you get the idea a lot of people are having issues with rooting?
I'm referring to the talk of posts dedicated to people with bricked and non bricked phones, like at the top of the dev board.
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I'm referring to the talk of posts dedicated to people with bricked and non bricked phones, like at the top of the dev board.
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VERY old news... Nobody has conclusively got to the bottom of that issue. It's currently assumed that HTC used an off-spec eMMC chip in some of the earliest devices. Those tended to fail for some reason with the use of the original GB leak radio. I'm not sure why that thread is still stickied. The other thread relating to that was unstickied like 2 months ago.
Alot of the people I've seen that did get stuck in that boot loop, which was being called bricked, was resolved by simply flashing a different radio. I heard of some people actually having bricked devices, but not many. I am fairly new to a lot of this, in comparison to many others, but I have never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own stupidity.
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is it safe,its never safe its wether you want your phone to work or not,radios whete never the cause my first bolt bricked on stock out of the box in ten days,just either grow a set or leave it,if life was safe ypy would live in a box
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Nothing in life is safe. Even breathing will kill you (eventually)
However, I do think more of the newbies that are cautious than the ones that just jump into thinks without thinking or knowing why they are rooting to begin with. So good for you Mr. OP
You will Never Know
I have not rooted my Thunderbolt (yet) but its not because I am afraid I might brick it .. I prefer to read as much as I can about it before diving in head first. I dont know if its "safe" but I do know the success rate is pretty good from what I have read, if you are not the kind to take short cuts.
I say go for it. Just make sure you do your homework first. Life is too short to live with bloatware.
Hot Carl said:
I have not rooted my Thunderbolt (yet) but its not because I am afraid I might brick it .. I prefer to read as much as I can about it before diving in head first. I dont know if its "safe" but I do know the success rate is pretty good from what I have read, if you are not the kind to take short cuts.
I say go for it. Just make sure you do your homework first. Life is too short to live with bloatware.
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Looks like that's you're first post here! And I like what it has to say! Welcome to the community. Hope you enjoy it!
Exactly, well put, I've been rooted for a Cpl of months now and only boot looped once through my own stupitity. I flash rom's all the time. Root it!!!!
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Alot of the people I've seen that did get stuck in that boot loop, which was being called bricked, was resolved by simply flashing a different radio. I heard of some people actually having bricked devices, but not many. I am fairly new to a lot of this, in comparison to many others, but I have never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own stupidity.
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I see the new version of Hulu "supports" the flyer, but not the view. Seems stupid to me, but what do I know. Anyway, is it possible to "hack" it so it shows up as if it were a flyer? Or am I asking for too much?
Leave a review on the app so the dev can see and make the adjustments. Usually tends to work out
I have. Still haven't seen anything yet. I've even emailed them, but their tech support is useless. I'm getting a stream error now on my Rezound since the update and they just recommend things I've already done.
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you probably need to make your own rom with specific custom device version information for that...
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you probably need to make your own rom with specific custom device version information for that...
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I played with the kitchens on winmo, but nothing ever worked properly for me, so I don't think I'll be trying that. I don't feel confident enough in my limited abilities to do that. Thanks though.
I wonder if it reads the build prop, and if I does if I could just change a few things to "read" like a flyer?
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Just find a guide may work for this.
The form not allow me send the url here, so sent you a pm.
We're in second place in overall threads and as far as the amount of posts, we're in 4th place, but still. While I know this doesn't represent ROMs, it does show activity, and we're not a ghost town. So, please, stop complaining about the lack of development here on the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 forum. We're as active as can be at the moment.
Agreed. I think you and all the Dev's are doing great. Learned a lot about the phone and ODIN just from the developement going on. I appreciate all the hard work.
Agreed. This is a niche phone, and still the quality of the development here is strong, and gets better by the day.
Best to dig in and enjoy the things this phone can do as opposed to what this community lacks.
Easier to complain, I suppose.
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Couldn't agree more. Patience is a virtue, indeed. Be thankful for the work we DO have.
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Thank you for the post freeza, the quality of what is available now is top notch. The Note 3 is already an amazing phone, so for you guys to improve it so much is a commendable feat to say the least. I appreciate all of the devs hard work and really anyone contributing in a positive manner. I know the latest onslaught of self entitlement won't ruin it for the rest, but there had been a growing sense of it in here lately.
Even if it's not necessarily an entitlement thing people just need to respect what is currently available and be grateful for it.
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Agreed! I will take quality over quantity any day. Every ROM I have tried since coming to the Sprint Note 3 has been pretty amazing. Thanks to all the devs!
Not a complaint here. .. I'd also rather have quality over quantity! I wanna thank all the great devs that are here making things happen. I know for a fact that there are great things on the horizon. ...1brainsurgeon has acquired the n3... skunk ape is working on his rom! Things are coming along we just have to patient!
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Always here to squash trolls, and back up those who need it all in the name of development, so I say carry on to those in here who are committed to continuing on for the Note 3.
When I first got this phone and came here I thought about development being slow, but then one dude pointed out that the quality of this phone from what I came from is night and day and there was a reason for there being so much development in other forums - - pretty much because the phones had a ton of issues and this one doesn't... Always appreciate the devs though, I couldn't even begin to do what they do... Thanks for the work...
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When I first got this phone and came here I thought about development being slow, but then one dude pointed out that the quality of this phone from what I came from is night and day and there was a reason for there being so much development in other forums - - pretty much because the phones had a ton of issues and this one doesn't... Always appreciate the devs though, I couldn't even begin to do what they do... Thanks for the work...
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I agree %100 I was always a flashaholic I don't even feel the urge to root this phone it is perfect.
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I was flashing a lot until I put Viper on my phone, team venom was good to go and their rom was Damn near perfect, however, had this phone for a couple weeks now and getting that itch to root and start screwing with it, just wonder if it's best to wait until the next update and then root, not sure how complicated it is on a Samsung phone to upgrade to a new version when MJ4 gets replaced. Still reading and doing reasearch on Odin, looks simple though, I've always had HTC phones.
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There is doubt ... freeza is the most valuable dev in these forums.
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tonyevo52 said:
I was flashing a lot until I put Viper on my phone, team venom was good to go and their rom was Damn near perfect, however, had this phone for a couple weeks now and getting that itch to root and start screwing with it, just wonder if it's best to wait until the next update and then root, not sure how complicated it is on a Samsung phone to upgrade to a new version when MJ4 gets replaced. Still reading and doing reasearch on Odin, looks simple though, I've always had HTC phones.
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It's pretty simple. ..I would just go for it. .. In fact I did go for it the day I got my phone. ..lol forgot to check for an update first. .. but it's good freeza has hooked up the firmware tar so I'm all good. Thanks Freeza and crew for making this an even bigger beast than what it already was!
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Done.. Mic pointed me in the right direction... Just have to start checking out some roms...
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Just doesnt seem to be a lot of activity here for my device.
Kind of bored
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Sucks man I know .. Bigfau was around but I think he bricked his and haven't seen him around anymore. Sell yours and grab a i9205 bro
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Sucks man I know .. Bigfau was around but I think he bricked his and haven't seen him around anymore. Sell yours and grab a i9205 bro
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I have to say I agree with shayne....The offset for lte is development which for the i527 will never go anywhere will Knox and all the att bootloader crap...If you can live without lte the i9205 is much faster and smoother than the att megas I've played with and you'll have at least ssome dev support.
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Indeed its smooth... But I think captemo your on contract aren't you ? I bought mine outright
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shayneflashindaily said:
Indeed its smooth... But I think captemo your on contract aren't you ? I bought mine outright
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i am on conbtract and i am not.
i have 4 phones on my acct with AT&T, obviously 1 was for upgrade. i am on the Next program with this one and my 14 day trial ends today.
i have unlimited data grandfathered and wouldnt want to lose that.
and others are right too, in the sense that any other phone is going to be smaller. how can i go back? even my Note seems like a Pez dispenser compared to this thing.
i like it, i just want to do stuff with it.............you know
Totally understand ...in time
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captemo said:
i am on conbtract and i am not.
i have 4 phones on my acct with AT&T, obviously 1 was for upgrade. i am on the Next program with this one and my 14 day trial ends today.
i have unlimited data grandfathered and wouldnt want to lose that.
and others are right too, in the sense that any other phone is going to be smaller. how can i go back? even my Note seems like a Pez dispenser compared to this thing.
i like it, i just want to do stuff with it.............you know
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I'm in the same boat with grandfathered unlimited data plan...honestly the mega is sick...and if you root your i527 and put setcpu on it you'll see a massive improvement. I think shayne is testing out the settings I run mine on with stock kernel. Just keep it and see how it goes. I'm a huge tinkerer and dev, working in a custom kernel for the mega and still run rooted stock that I themed with xposed and wanam, combined with max clock it's as near as a custom rom as you'd want, with all the stability and speed of a rom. If you just download xposed and wanam the amount of customizations are literally endless.
Mega
Also tinted status bar module is dope ...any color you want upon opening any app you want ...but I won't post 100 pics lol
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I'm in the same boat with grandfathered unlimited data plan...honestly the mega is sick...and if you root your i527 and put setcpu on it you'll see a massive improvement. I think shayne is testing out the settings I run mine on with stock kernel. Just keep it and see how it goes. I'm a huge tinkerer and dev, working in a custom kernel for the mega and still run rooted stock that I themed with xposed and wanam, combined with max clock it's as near as a custom rom as you'd want, with all the stability and speed of a rom. If you just download xposed and wanam the amount of customizations are literally endless.
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Are you running the ATT version also?
I have often wondered in my 100's of flashes I have done, is it the custom rom that is necessary, or can I get all tge tweaks I really need just by using the Xposed Module.
I do like the phone alot, but I have held off on the root until I decided to keep and I feel I have read enough about it. As Shayne knows, I can really EFF things up if I want too.
In the past with Xposed, I have had reasonable success in modding, of course it could have been me or conflicting options on phone. Does it seem to be fully functional with rooted Mega?
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I've thought about selling my i9205 to get something newer but its grown on me. But 400 dollars sounds nice too ha. Xposed will hold you off for a bit capt
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captemo said:
Are you running the ATT version also?
I have often wondered in my 100's of flashes I have done, is it the custom rom that is necessary, or can I get all tge tweaks I really need just by using the Xposed Module.
I do like the phone alot, but I have held off on the root until I decided to keep and I feel I have read enough about it. As Shayne knows, I can really EFF things up if I want too.
In the past with Xposed, I have had reasonable success in modding, of course it could have been me or conflicting options on phone. Does it seem to be fully functional with rooted Mega?
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Not with the mega...i have a note 3 n900a att...at least for me, I still try rom, and help some of my friends develop them but I pretty much stopped doing full devs of roms since all the tweaks you'd want can be done to stock with xposed and now wanam, plus stock rom stability. I really only build kernels and flash kernels and theme or tweak my own stock builds. Always heavily themed, sometimes I do some xml or build prop alterations...but since 4.2 I've run pretty much stock with tweaks as I've found it generally faster, smoother and more stable...Especially with certain kernels. And I have to say for a stock kernel the mega has a great one, and is really streamlined and efficient in the source code.
stick with your megas fellas trust me I have several devices l around and I always go back to my mega
(Even changed my xda handle lol)
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And just for the sake of clarity...everything I do, or other devs do either can be done, or is actually done thru xposed and the subsequent modules...so yes you can do everything I woukd do building you a rom in xposed, minus say deodexing or other tweak, which these days with the new krait chips is really unnecessary tbh. The chips are so powerful and efficient in the mega and the quad version of it in the note 3 don't need or show really any noticeable gains by many of the old tricks anymore. So my 2 cents on it...keep the mega, it's the best all round device I own, and by far my favorite. Run xposed, and wanam and I can almost guarantee you won't be missing a single thing.
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I haven't used Xposed, but I'm pretty darn happy with the Mega stock rom. I'm running 4.4 on my captivate and my asus tf300t. The 4.4 is nice and smooth and small! I'm sure we will see a 4.4 update eventually for the mega. Google's ART feature is still very experimental, once they get that matured and implemented in their 4.4 builds, I'm sure even light weight devices will see the performance benefits.
Having root and being able to remove bloat was a big bonus for me. If I like themed roms, I would most certainly play with Xposed. The battery life on this Mega is something wonderful! Worth keeping the phone just for that reason.
Actually, after rooting and removing ATT and Samsung bloat, I am pretty happy with stock. I alternate between Nova and everything.me launchers.
Believe me, I have been a flashing addict. I have tried every rom available for my 3yo Nook Color, Captivate, Infuse, Note 1 and Nexus 7. And I have tested roms for 4 different Devs.
I find it's refreshing for everything on my phone to work without having to use a third party app (although it is boring)!!! I'm keeping my Mega, but I will probably never use ATT again, unless all the other carriers start locking their phones also.
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Actually, after rooting and removing ATT and Samsung bloat, I am pretty happy with stock. I alternate between Nova and everything.me launchers.
Believe me, I have been a flashing addict. I have tried every rom available for my 3yo Nook Color, Captivate, Infuse, Note 1 and Nexus 7. And I have tested roms for 4 different Devs.
I find it's refreshing for everything on my phone to work without having to use a third party app (although it is boring)!!! I'm keeping my Mega, but I will probably never use ATT again, unless all the other carriers start locking their phones also.
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Im in the same page here.. if rooting works for me is more than enough. I have removed all the "junk" apps and im happy with the stability of the mega and software. Yes is nice to use different roms and have options but at the end of the road as long as there are ways to "personalization" of the mega software im happy. I might miss the kernel abilities.. specially overclocking...
I appreciate the feedback folks and I am in. Stability is the key and I have experience with multiple device. Trusted advice is a valuable thing to and I beleive that is what I am getting here.
I now only need to find the trusted files and instructions on rooting this thing. I think I found them last night, around p40 in the "bounty for root" thread. However, I have always been hesitant about going into build prop and making changes. So I guess I need to read more.
Thanks again folks, ill be around.
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With root, exposed, wanam, and nova launcher, I am happier with this phone then I ever was with my note1 or 2. I will still push for a way to flash but funny thing is, I probably would stick with the setup I have now. I guess it's a matter of knowing I could flash if I wanted but No, I don't think I need it or would even use it. What's wrong with me, wanting something, I don't think I will ever use?
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captemo said:
I appreciate the feedback folks and I am in. Stability is the key and I have experience with multiple device. Trusted advice is a valuable thing to and I beleive that is what I am getting here.
I now only need to find the trusted files and instructions on rooting this thing. I think I found them last night, around p40 in the "bounty for root" thread. However, I have always been hesitant about going into build prop and making changes. So I guess I need to read more.
Thanks again folks, ill be around.
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Kingoapp.com is the easiest method I have used....ever....bar none!!!!
I may have told you this before, but I went to manage apps and looked at every app....if it gives you the option to "turn off", then you should be able to delete without any problems. I've never had the balls to delete any thing else....
az probably has a complete list of what can be deleted.
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With root, exposed, wanam, and nova launcher, I am happier with this phone then I ever was with my note1 or 2. I will still push for a way to flash but funny thing is, I probably would stick with the setup I have now. I guess it's a matter of knowing I could flash if I wanted but No, I don't think I need it or would even use it. What's wrong with me, wanting something, I don't think I will ever use?
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This. Once we got root and I used Xposed I'm happy as hell. I just want to be able to flash **** that I'm never gonna use.
Go to kingo and download the app on your pc...its a one click root system for a myriad of devices including the mega i527. I used it on my note 3 n900a with locked bootloader without issue. Enjoy
Mega
We should make a comprehensive list of **** that we have turned off
And another of the mods that we have done
For me I always wanted the clock in the middle with wanam I have it, also changed the battery and some other icons as well so for now even though I can't flash I am sticking with the Mega
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Review is not the best, but al least we can the see the next big thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI70Z6QE8V8
Says it's a private video...
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Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOspWGlMdk
Painful to watch
Hmmmm.......
This:
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atheistevofreak said:
This:
http://www.stuff.tv/htc/unruly-child-shows-htc-one-plus-video-12-minutes/news
EVOlved human
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He should have taped the back... Guess he'll be grounded for the rest of the foreseeable future. Lol
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This:
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That's too bad.
Well, not what I was hoping for. But, they say that about the G5.
All I know is that Sammy makes it hard as frick to root their phones, so I'll most likely stay with HTC.
^^^^^ while I agree with sticking with HTC, what, on earth, gives you the impression it's hard to get root on Sammy devices. My experience with GNex, and all I've read, shows sammys are the easiest to root.
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joshuaw84 said:
He should have taped the back... Guess he'll be grounded for the rest of the foreseeable future. Lol
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Probably wouldn't have mattered... you know... considering the kid's first and last name were on his Youtube and Twitter.
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^^^^^ while I agree with sticking with HTC, what, on earth, gives you the impression it's hard to get root on Sammy devices. My experience with GNex, and all I've read, shows sammys are the easiest to root.
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Bro....
My brother has the GS4 through Verizon, and there are like 6 different versions.
Rooting wasn't the issue, as I rooted it for him easily. The issue was "bootstrap", "Safestrap", "modems", and other terminology.
Not what I'm used to. He's rooted, but you cannot flash AOSP ROM'S with their locked bootloaders. You can only flash stock ROMS, and you have to use "Safestrap", which apparently makes multiple partitions and you have to keep your original stock ROM.
And then there is Loki, and Odin, whatever the hell those are. I'm guessing for unlocked bootloaders, but I haven't got that far yet.
Friend of mine from work blames Verizon, saying they try to seriously lock down their phones.
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Bro....
My brother has the GS4 through Verizon, and there are like 6 different versions.
Rooting wasn't the issue, as I rooted it for him easily. The issue was "bootstrap", "Safestrap", "modems", and other terminology.
Not what I'm used to. He's rooted, but you cannot flash AOSP ROM'S with their locked bootloaders. You can only flash stock ROMS, and you have to use "Safestrap", which apparently makes multiple partitions and you have to keep your original stock ROM.
And then there is Loki, and Odin, whatever the hell those are. I'm guessing for unlocked bootloaders, but I haven't got that far yet.
Friend of mine from work blames Verizon, saying they try to seriously lock down their phones.
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That's a Verizon thing... I have a sprint gs4 and it was ridiculously easy to root. Took me all of 2 minutes, it took longer to download the files...
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dang, they didnt have to fire the kids dad...that blows
mcwups1 said:
Well, not what I was hoping for. But, they say that about the G5.
All I know is that Sammy makes it hard as frick to root their phones, so I'll most likely stay with HTC.
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I don't know about Samsung devices (on Sprint) but I know rooting my HTC wasn't too bad, but flashing it was a different story.
I'm not sure how much Truth is in that whole story. I mean, who can be THAT foolish? If it was me, I would make sure hat my kids don't even talk about it at school. Shoot...I might not even tell them.
Furthermore, whether this is true or not, this still provides HTC with premature feedback from users who want to see what the M8 will look like. While it is too late for them to make physical changes to the phone, at least they can try to make a few software changes to the phone. For example, I'm sure that someone is going to criticize the camera app. Based on the general consensus, they can make the needed modifications. This video has brought much attention to HTC, whether negative or positive, and there's nothing that good ol' Sammy can do about it.
Did I mention that this is FREE advertising? That's something that HTC never did very well with, and funding has a lot to do with it. I'm not saying that this story can't be true, but I certainly feel that there are more factors at play under the hood.
And to add to those who have said that Samsung is difficult to root, I beg to differ. Once I downloaded the correct files to the computer, it took me 2mins to root my wife's GS3 with an auto root tool. I had to do a lot more work to root my EVO. Mind you, I'm not saying that my EVO was difficult to rllt, but i also had to obtain S-Off in a separate process. You just have to root a Samsung and you're good to go.
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memekmek said:
dang, they didnt have to fire the kids dad...that blows
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They didn't, he made that up along with the other lies on his twitter after the video was traced back to him. His father works for a company that does soil testing (http://tsccorp.com) and his mother is a school teacher. I doubt that either would have access to the phone through their work.
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They didn't, he made that up along with the other lies on his twitter after the video was traced back to him. His father works for a company that does soil testing (http://tsccorp.com) and his mother is a school teacher. I doubt that either would have access to the phone through their work.
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so just some kid trying to be cool by having an unreleased phone?
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so just some kid trying to be cool by having an unreleased phone?
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I don't know who he got it from, but it wasn't one of his parents. Could be another relative, friend's parent, etc.