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For anyone who's NOT on a LEAKED version of 2.1, you can still Root.
We have verified that the PB00IMG.zip goes through its checking process, and asks to update. It looks very much like the Root PB00IMG.zip IS able to be flashed over any phones that went from 1.5 to OTA 2.1.
So anyone who's holding back on going from 1.5 to OTA 2.1, for fear that they wont' be able to root, let your fears disappear.
Special thanks to ssgtob1 from AndroidForums.com who bravely tested booting up in HBOOT with the Root PB00IMG.zip on his SD card.
Thank you for your help, and anyone who DIDN'T leak, we STILL have you covered for Root. Go ahead and follow any set of normal directions for 1.5 to root, and you should be all set to Root your phone.
FOR LEAKERS: Some exploits are still being explored. I hope something comes to fruition. You will know as soon as anyone knows. I promise.
Thanks,
Paul
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
edgeupgx said:
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
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Maybe you should continue to be patient with v1?.....
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
Don't worry, two things have been confirmed.
First the OTA will not work with the leaked ROMs installed.
Second, the OTA is exactly the same as the 2.1 leak v3.
This was confirmed on Android-forum by someone that took the time to compare every single file and CRC the binaries. The only difference was that the leaked ROMs use a different bootloader to install as they did and the actual OS and apps are exactly the same so if you got leak v3 you got the OTA.
The OTA won't install because you are already running it. The only down side is you still cannot root, but otherwise you have as good or better than the OTA.
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So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
xtremeskier97 said:
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
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The exact directions, as if you were 1.5. You have a few options. If you have Windows, an easy way to go about it is this:\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
The manual method does, literally, the EXACT same thing, it's just a teeny bit more technical, but you learn a lot about your phone in the process (that you wouldn't have learned using the Eris Master Application). If you're pretty technical (or using Mac OSX or Unix or Linux) then I would use the following tutorial (except, if you have Unix/Linux, you don't have to worry about drivers, and it's "./adb" instead of "adb" when you're running commands).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
Good luck!
DigitalMD said:
So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
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I must vouch for Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 being as bugless as the OTA, in my experience. This guy's been cooking ROMs for all kinds of phones for YEARS, and knows what he's doing. 100% clean, looks like stock, and is a lot faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this? Hoping it's true as I just got the OTA and installed it based on this thread. BTW, 2.1 .......NICE!
Bill
bczygan said:
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this?
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Yes it is possible, and yes it has been done. I believe if you got the 2.1 OTA from a stock 1.5, the documented root method will work fine.
If you got 2.1 from any of the three leaks, you are stuck without root.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong though! )
Add on question about rooting the OTA 2.1
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
bczygan said:
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
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Following the walkthrough OR using the Eris Master Application (if you have Windows) will work JUST fine. (even though those things say you NEED 1.5, that's not exactly true, because OTA 2.1 works as well).
Once you Root, put a Recovery on there, then flash a nice ROM from Recovery, you will flash a ROM (like Ivan's Eris_Official_1.0) that has AT LEAST the exact same functionality as the OTA.
Later, if you want, you can follow the method documented on http://www.androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/ in the All Things Root section, and click on AcidBath's thread, stickied at the top (then scroll about one page down) for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 back to Stock 1.5 (yes it is possible), then follow the tutorial for applying the MANUAL OTA update.
This will take you back from Rooted 2.1 back to OTA 2.1, if you should so choose (though I can't think of a good reason why you'd do that).
Once you have root, and you're using things like WiFi tether and so on, I'm guessing you won't go back. But the option IS available. And yes, if you go back to 1.5 then manual OTA, you will lose root, but you can GET IT BACK the same way you're getting it right now.
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
BlazeD OnE said:
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
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Rooting, you just follow the directions for Rooting a 1.5 phone. If you're on the OTA, that's fine, if you're on 1.5, that's fine. The directions are 100% exactly the same.
The link I posted above was for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 to normal 1.5. Ignore that. Here's where you want to be:
The Eris Master App works GREAT if you have Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
Or do the normal manual Rooting method (it's exactly the same thing, just the App does the commands for you, or you do it yourself -- this is the method that I use, every time):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
I suggest Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for a ROM, instead of 0.8t2 or whatever is suggested in that thread (that thread is kind of old).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
bczygan said:
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
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I recommend Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for you too. Download and put it on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Boot your phone into recovery, do Backup/Restore > nand backup (to back up your phone) then go back to main menu (volume down), Wipe > Wipe factory/data reset, wipe Dalvik Cache (both), back to main menu (volume down), Flash Zip from SD Card, flash Ivan's Eris_Official.
You'll be doing great.
ALSO:
anyone who's rooting and flashing these ROMs should also be flashing the latest Radio that comes with the OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6469408&postcount=113
yeah i rooted from the OTA and it worked fine it just took a bit longer than it should've because i had some trouble doing it on a mac but i figured it out eventually.
just follow the instructions and you should be fine *only if you are the 2.1 OTA or 1.5*
Hi! I'm on 2.1 OTA, and my droid Eris has never been modified in any way at a software or hardware level. I am running HBOOT 1.47.0000. Whenever I use the PB00IMG.ZIP (of which I have checked the MD5 sums) and reboot into the bootloader screen (The one with "HBOOT" and searches for images) I always get "No Image or wrong image!" and am never presented with the option of "push activate" as a result. Any tips? Yes, the PB00IMG.ZIP is in the root of the SD card. I can't really think that I'm doing anything wrong, as I've read the instructions a billion times, and checked every site with instructions, to see if there was any variation in methods.
Any input or tips (other than "don't root your phone" ) would be greatly appreciated!
It Works!!!
I gave up root for the OTA...never again. I'll 2nd (3rd, 4th, etc) if you are on the OTA you can get root. Thank God...so glad to be back. ;-)
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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Monkeypuppet said:
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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As far as I understand it, after rooting, you will have both of the phones on 2.1 rooted.
I got my THunderbolt on day 1, and rooted it when the instructions were first released for Mac users back at android central.
I wanna update to the latest update (software+radio?)that was just recently let out a week or two ago.
Anyway I could do this and retain root?
BiggyLittlez said:
I got my THunderbolt on day 1, and rooted it when the instructions were first released for Mac users back at android central.
I wanna update to the latest update (software+radio?)that was just recently let out a week or two ago.
Anyway I could do this and retain root?
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I think you could just do a battery pull trick instead of having to go through the adb thing and you should be able to retain root if u download one of the devs rom of the leak
sparta31 said:
I think you could just do a battery pull trick instead of having to go through the adb thing and you should be able to retain root if u download one of the devs rom of the leak
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What are you talking about?
All he has to do is download a rom which uses the GB leak as a base and flash it. This is just the base leak with root, probably what you are looking for. Read before you flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082001
Here's my question - I'm running a stock Thunderbolt with the original software (not rooted), and I want to try the OTA update out. Has the OTA update been rooted for non-root users, as in, would I be able to root it afterwards, being as my phone is completely stock right now?
I don't want to be on GB, I want the most recent update that was let out over OTA.
The most recent update has issues, actually, far more than the Gingerbread leak. Random reboots are a very prevalent issue. If you aren't rooted, and you don't want to install a ROM and just install that software, simply check for an update under your settings menu.
If you are rooted, you need to look more into flashing a ROM, and what goes along with the process. Almost all ROM's released have root access, so that isn't an issue.
RandomlyWatts said:
The most recent update has issues, actually, far more than the Gingerbread leak. Random reboots are a very prevalent issue. If you aren't rooted, and you don't want to install a ROM and just install that software, simply check for an update under your settings menu.
If you are rooted, you need to look more into flashing a ROM, and what goes along with the process. Almost all ROM's released have root access, so that isn't an issue.
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ALL roms have root access since you have to be rooted to flash a rom... and the Random reboots are only an issue with the newest ginergerbread radio and gingerbread roms becuase they are an ALPHA release and arent stable yet. if you want the latest software and radio without GB then do the first update from this list --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13093559&postcount=1 and install a custom rom that is based of the newest software update (1.13.605.7) such as das bamf 1.6.3. if you want a more stock look then install one closer to stock. heres a list for you to look around --> http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...-thunderbolt-roms-list-updated-5-16-11-a.html easiest way to install a rom is with rom manager from the market and install from sd card. hope this helps i remember struggling with this stuff so i know it can be frustrating.
Since I will be starting work next week and activating my Thunderbolt I had to return to stock & unroot
After following the instructions below....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
I noticed after the first flash, that when I shutdown and started up in bootloader it automatically asked if I wanted to update and did so almost instantaneously....
I just wanted to know if there is anyway I can confirm that I'm back to stock and unrooted... Also will I be able to get the recent update from Verizon now that I returned to stock MR1?
ace2525 said:
Since I will be starting work next week and activating my Thunderbolt I had to return to stock & unroot
After following the instructions below....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
I noticed after the first flash, that when I shutdown and started up in bootloader it automatically asked if I wanted to update and did so almost instantaneously....
I just wanted to know if there is anyway I can confirm that I'm back to stock and unrooted... Also will I be able to get the recent update from Verizon now that I returned to stock MR1?
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Boot to bootloader and make sure S-on and no custom recovery.
Check rom for Superuser.apk
Make sure baseband matches mr1 baseband.
If bootloader wanted to update immediately, you probably left a radio PG05IMG.zip file on your sdcard. Delete it.
Yes, after returning to stock you should get the OTA. You can manually force a software update to check for OTA too.
after doing the first step, i removed the first pg05img and replaced it with the next steps file...so like i said, it just took an update and completed in seconds. I assume that was the restoring of the original bootloader. No superuser so no more root
I cant restart just yet to check if S is back ON b/c OTA update is taking FOREVER to download....setting up my screens in the meantime. Thanks bro
baseband updated?
Another quick question....
my baseband is 1.39.00.0627r, 0.01.69.0625r meanwhile this ad for the OTA verizon update has a different baseband listed, 1.39.00.0613w, 0.01.69.0613w_1
source:
http://www.techwafer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/HTC-ThunderBolt-software-update.jpg
Do i have the latest, whats the deal?
THANKS in advance!
bump...anyone??? above post
ace2525 said:
Another quick question....
my baseband is 1.39.00.0627r, 0.01.69.0625r meanwhile this ad for the OTA verizon update has a different baseband listed, 1.39.00.0613w, 0.01.69.0613w_1
source:
http://www.techwafer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/HTC-ThunderBolt-software-update.jpg
Do i have the latest, whats the deal?
THANKS in advance!
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The first baseband is the OTA MR2 Radio. I'm not sure about the other one.
Source:
http://support.vzw.com/system_update/thunderbolt.html
Hit "Benefits of Software Update" and it will show you the baseband.
Hi,
I just downgraded from .21 to .15, rooted and installed OTA Rootkeeper.
Now I want to upgrade to .21 again, but my TFP doesnt find any updates...
When I check manually via the "About"-Menu in Settings, it says there's no update available for my device.
Has anyone else had similar problems?
Do you know any solution?
Can i upgrade manually to .21 and restore root successfuly?
I have heard of this before. You might want to read Wolf downgrade thread as solutions was posted in there. You might need to install a different reigon version of the firmware. Its a matter of installing a firmware THST will look for the update. That's what I read in there.
No way to manually upgrade and restore root. At least at the moment. The only other way is to just unlock your prime, install TWRP or CWM, then flash a custom rom that's already rooted that's based off of .21. Please post back up anything you find out or a solution. AS I'm testing the new .28 beta build and will likely need a similar solution in order to root. What you posted is what I was afraid of going the downgrading route. That once downgraded, it won't even see a new update in order to update to latest firmware and voodoo can't work its magic on it. Keep us posted.
demandarin said:
I have heard of this before. You might want to read Wolf downgrade thread as solutions was posted in there. You might need to install a different reigon version of the firmware. Its a matter of installing a firmware THST will look for the update. That's what I read in there.
No way to manually upgrade and restore root. At least at the moment. The only other way is to just unlock your prime, install TWRP or CWM, then flash a custom rom that's already rooted that's based off of .21. Please post back up anything you find out or a solution. AS I'm testing the new .28 beta build and will likely need a similar solution in order to root. What you posted is what I was afraid of going the downgrading route. That once downgraded, it won't even see a new update in order to update to latest firmware and voodoo can't work its magic on it. Keep us posted.
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Thanks for your response.
I read the whole Thread with Wolf's Tutorials.
I found some posts of guys having the exact same issue, but I did not find a single reply with any solution
No more ideas on this problem?
That's what I did installed .15 rooted and installed virtuous prime basically a stock .21 rom that's rooted and very stable ..... currently i'm running Andro Wook custom v1.0 works very well and speedier than stock but if you're looking for completely stock virtuous prime or Andro wook also has stock rooted roms as well
I did the same thing yesterday but it worked for me.
Make sure you're downgrading with the correct country SKU matching your original one. (WW, US, DE, etc...)
The procedure I used ONLY works on a locked bootloader. If you have unlocked with the Asus tool you cannot get OTA updates.
Asus has pulled all the old firmware!
So, I did not have a US V9.4.2.15 blob but found one (http://d-h.st/hGK) from this post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25503960&postcount=47
Also notice what hajalie24 is replying in that post: "Probably because you used WW on a US prime.."
Downgraded from .21 to .15 using wolf849's method 2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
DO NOT USE THIS METHOD ON AN UNLOCKED DEVICE.
Rooted using viperMOD_PrimeTime_v4.6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427125
Installed OTA RootKeeper and backed su - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
Checked for update in About tablet / System Firmware Update. It saw .21 and upgraded successfully.
Used RootKeeper and restored root successfully.
I understand you might have done the same steps, but I wanted to post the exact procedure I used because it worked.
yanni5 said:
I did the same thing yesterday but it worked for me.
Make sure you're downgrading with the correct country SKU matching your original one. (WW, US, DE, etc...)
The procedure I used ONLY works on a locked bootloader. If you have unlocked with the Asus tool you cannot get OTA updates.
Asus has pulled all the old firmware!
So, I did not have a US V9.4.2.15 blob but found one (http://d-h.st/hGK) from this post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25503960&postcount=47
Also notice what hajalie24 is replying in that post: "Probably because you used WW on a US prime.."
Downgraded from .21 to .15 using wolf849's method 2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
DO NOT USE THIS METHOD ON AN UNLOCKED DEVICE.
Rooted using viperMOD_PrimeTime_v4.6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427125
Installed OTA RootKeeper and backed su - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
Checked for update in About tablet / System Firmware Update. It saw .21 and upgraded successfully.
Used RootKeeper and restored root successfully.
I understand you might have done the same steps, but I wanted to post the exact procedure I used because it worked.
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Thanks for your detailled post.
I have done it exactly this way.
There are many people facing the problems with missing OTAs and not being able to unlock their devices.
MartiniMoe said:
Thanks for your detailled post.
I have done it exactly this way.
There are many people facing the problems with missing OTAs and not being able to unlock their devices.
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I've done it the same way as you and others 1 month ago and could update to .21 without problem.
But I know 1 person who downgraded and rooted his locked TF201 few days ago (following the exactly same steps with correct blob) and can't update.
He tried everything after downgrade: waiting 1 or 2 days / wiping data / uninstalling updates of google apps. He does not get OTA update.
if someone has a solution....
EDIT: probably reason for the user i mentionned: he had unlocked his tablet weeks ago. Then he sent it to support because it was bricked. The tablet came back with .21 and relock. It seems that now he can't update after downgrade nor unlock his device. Maybe because of the serial number registered by Asus.
pnoire said:
EDIT: probably reason for the user i mentionned: he had unlocked his tablet weeks ago. Then he sent it to support because it was bricked. The tablet came back with .21 and relock. It seems that now he can't update after downgrade nor unlock his device. Maybe because of the serial number registered by Asus.
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Yes, I would not be surprised if Asus service re-flashes the tablet back to life and "forgets" to reset that serial number in their database so it can get updates again
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.