Only 1,200mb usable ram. - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3

So all I have done is root it and install twrp with Odin 3.0. I see other users online with a stock task manager app (which I can't find but would love a link!) They complain of only 2.3gb total usable ram. My task killer apps say at most 1,200mb/1.75gb. Should I not have access to at least 2gb of free ram after killing all apps with low security or at the least 2gb of ram that's not used by the system?
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This is the highest amount of free ram I have been able to achieve. Using advanced task killer pro. Am I wrong or should I not see a number closer to 3gb? The 1,700mb can only be achieved if I kill everything immediately after boot. Apps security is lowest value.
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Your phone reserves some of that for video memory which i can't remember how much it ends up being. Honestly there isn't a reason to even have a task killer on anything after android 2.3. All it does is kill apps that will silently relaunch I'm the background as background process to make for quick relaunch and use power in the process; Unless your running 20+ apps at once it's pointless.
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It takes memory to run your phone's software and installed apps.
Edit: my available ram after a reset and clearing the ram. I have removed what I don't use from the stock rom so my numbers won't be the same. As far as I understand you cant free up the whole 3gb ever.

That's what I tried to do via something called stock app uninstaller or something but I'm still only seeing 1500mb when I kill all my apps. My gf's s4 says 1200mb via same app killer. Can you recommend an app to do so with? I also cannot find the stock Samsung app killer ANYWHERE but see the app in my system apps folder, is there a weird method to access it?
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filthimoney said:
So all I have done is root it and install twrp with Odin 3.0. I see other users online with a stock task manager app (which I can't find but would love a link!) They complain of only 2.3gb total usable ram. My task killer apps say at most 1,200mb/1.75gb. Should I not have access to at least 2gb of free ram after killing all apps with low security or at the least 2gb of ram that's not used by the system?
Thanks
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM. As it fills up, the oldest programs drop off and the RAM uses the most recent apps to hold for quick access. You are accomplishing nothing by trying to free up more RAM.

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Unused RAM is wasted RAM. As it fills up, the oldest programs drop off and the RAM uses the most recent apps to hold for quick access. You are accomplishing nothing by trying to free up more RAM.
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Mmmm. I guess technically that's mostly correct. Though a bit misleading.
Ok.quick primer.
Yes, android pre loads things it thinks you may use into memory, this is a good thing and reduces launch times.
And yes, as android needs free memory it will close apps that have not been opened recently and attempt to free that memory.
In most situations for most people this is perfectly acceptable behavior, and is how you'd normally want your phone to function.
However there are gains in both speed, and battery life to be had by modifying how this process is done.
And one of the simplest things you can do to help is to remove everything from your phone you don't use.
That is part of the issue, apps you never use and have no need for will also get loaded into memory, this isn't really a huge issue as they just sit there holding space till its needed for something else. Though there can be a noticeable improvement to not having useless things in memory.
There is in fact a (admittedly small) performance hit to loading and unloading apps, especially ones that never get called, to and from the memory unnecessarily.
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[Q] [Suggestion]How to get more free RAM

I am using Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray from last 4 month. I already upgrade my phone ICS, Root it, Install CWM recovery etc.
But my phone is a little bit laggy, work laggy. I know if i got more free RAM, with it my phone's performance increase.
Any idea to increase phone performance with more free RAM.
i attached a screenshot of current RAM usage.
Thanks in Advance.
I don't want to use Custom ROM/Kernel, Unlock my Bootloader
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You could use auto memory manager from the playstore
Or use some init.d scripts or use a custom Rom or custom kernel which claims to have more free ram.
p.s: for custom kernel you need to unlock your bootloader.
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that 109mb free is already reasonable high free ram.
theres a saying that free ram is wasted ram.
Hmmmm...since you have rooted your phone, i suggest you install System Cleanup.....this apps can remove any bloatware on stock rom and free more ram that have been use by bloatware.....this apps also will show you which apps is safe to remove from your system files.....
I agree with anonymous . Free ram is wasted ram. But some apps (games) Might require certain amount of free ram so you can use app killers (pretty hard on battery, not recommended) or apps like auto memory manager (recommended, but keep the threshold limit reasonable).
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I'm running cm10, multitasking with tapatalk, music player, seeismic and opera mobile gave me just around 60mb free ram but no significant lag that i can see. Guess it depends on rom/kernel too for better memory management, and stock or stock based rom is lousy at that. On miui ics based on stock i cant play dead trigger without swap, wont even open the game but on cm9/cm10 i can play smoothly without needing swap.
Actually i need a Lag free phone. More free RAM is not primary reason....
Then use custom rom that aren't based on stock eg cm, pa or aokp. But for that u need to flash custom kernel, and to flash custom kernel u need to unlock bootloader.
gouthamthemostwanted said:
I agree with anonymous . Free ram is wasted ram. But some apps (games) Might require certain amount of free ram so you can use app killers (pretty hard on battery, not recommended) or apps like auto memory manager (recommended, but keep the threshold limit reasonable).
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an0nym0us_ said:
that 109mb free is already reasonable high free ram.
theres a saying that free ram is wasted ram.
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an0nym0us_ said:
I'm running cm10, multitasking with tapatalk, music player, seeismic and opera mobile gave me just around 60mb free ram but no significant lag that i can see. Guess it depends on rom/kernel too for better memory management, and stock or stock based rom is lousy at that. On miui ics based on stock i cant play dead trigger without swap, wont even open the game but on cm9/cm10 i can play smoothly without needing swap.
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You can read my follow up and try something
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948871
I do not think memory free memory is lost, by the time you notice that in practice things work differently
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I do not think memory free memory is lost, by the time you notice that in practice things work differently
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Hi Gustavo,
Can you explain your above quoted comment?? It's confusing to try to understand
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[Q] Which app shows real free RAM?

Hello. I own a Xoom 2 MZ616. I wish a widget or a permanent icon in status bar that shows me real RAM available. At the moment i have 3 different sources : Settings ->Apps->Running , LMT Launcher ( along pie ) and Memory Status.
The problem is each of them show me way too different number such : Settings shows me 218MB free, LMT Launcher shows 11MB free and Memory Status indicates 72MB free.
Which one should i consider real one?
Thanks alot.
Consider in settings because it's a system app and also it's knows better your device ram than any third party app
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Settings is the worst because it hides a Lotta processes in the calculation. Even the cache won't show up directly.
I use "cool tool" which u can see at the notification bar in the screen shot.
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Try Advanced task killer and see which app gives you similar results.
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rather difficult indeed for the applications in accordance with the actual conditions of the memory android, but it's worth a try one by one before deciding to use it for a long time.
If u want to know your free ram, no need to use app just type 'free' in terminal emulator.
kreatonn said:
If u want to know your free ram, no need to use app just type 'free' in terminal emulator.
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is it working without rooting?
Thanks
Thanks alot guys. I've downloaded cool tool which shows almost the same amount of free ram as Memory Status and System Tuner. I chosed cool tool coz I can place it wherever I want.
Thanks again.
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mikekgr said:
is it working without rooting?
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Yes,
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Yes,
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I did but it is reported only a small free RAM (69764 free 995376 Total). Only this command reports so low free RAM, is it correct? (e.x. OS Monitor reports 310M Free RAM out of 972M Total).
Thanks
Yes, that the true amount of your RAM, If u want know more about the RAM then go here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39729607
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Yes, that the true amount of your RAM, If u want know more about the RAM then go here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39729607
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Thanks a lot. I will do!
Actually I am well experience linux user so I can think of the same manner.
Have a nice day!

V6 Supercharger values for Xperia U

Ah, so V6 supercharge script isn't working for Xperia U or say any phone with 512 mb ram. Well, we have always concentrated on freeing RAM memory than actually using it. Because we think the more free RAM we have, the more Apps we can use at the same time. But guys that's not how Android works. You should let your phone use all the RAM memory it has. By limiting it, you're only telling your phone to keep a certain amount of memory "free" all the time and android does its job well by doing it. So if you tell your phone to keep 125 mb free it will keep it and kill other apps for it, even the launcher . That's unused space. And yeah now you will think that when apps are loaded on ram they are active and using CPU time, NO! They are paused because you're not using them. Android automatically excludes the apps which have not recently been used from the RAM as soon as you load an App which was not loaded earlier.​
Now let's talk about the values. I've kept 12,18,25,40,45,50 by using the 10th option from the V6 script.
Launcher rarely redraws. (Actually not yet happened with me )
No running apps are restarting.
services.jar not patched. Only using OOM settings. No extra kernel settings either. 75% charged
I seriously recommend not patching services.jar, just set these values or you can set your values to see the difference in performance.
That's all for now. Enjoy!
Only 13 mb RAM memory is free. I know the image isn't that clear.
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Warning These settings are still under testing. I'll not be responsible for your damage.
I find .89 by pirej memory management optimal and it only lags a little when dropping from an intensive memory app.
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Work XU JB?
I've not yet tried this on JB. Go ahead tho!
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I find .89 by pirej memory management optimal and it only lags a little when dropping from an intensive memory app.
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My phone isn't lagging at all. But facing battery problems a bit. I'm working on that now.
odd
It is kind of odd because my phone tends to lag more after I run the v6 script. But on the other hand, my gaming experience improves. Am I doing it wrong?
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It is kind of odd because my phone tends to lag more after I run the v6 script. But on the other hand, my gaming experience improves. Am I doing it wrong?
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What options do you select from the script? Did you patch services.jar?
IAmNice said:
Im pretty sure your multitasking is slower too?
Lots of free rams isn't always good. Multitasking and normal phone use can become slower. And gaming is better with lots of free ram
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WRONG!
My phone is fast and smooth now. When I share something from facebook to another app say Whatsapp, and when I come back to facebook I don't have to wait for facebook to load again. Even after that my launcher doesn't redraw.
Few bugs are solved now.
Guys, there were a few bugs but now I've overcome them. They're under testing. Soon i'll release them. I guarantee you that by applying my settings, the battery percent will take few minutes to drop. Before it used to take a minute to drop 2-3%. Now 1% will take more than that.
Vtrendzzy said:
Guys, there were a few bugs but now I've overcome them. They're under testing. Soon i'll release them. I guarantee you that by applying my settings, the battery percent will take few minutes to drop. Before it used to take a minute to drop 2-3%. Now 1% will take more than that.
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well that's interesting.. I've also been testing around with supercharger script and didn't find any values that actually pleased me... so the only thing I did was patching services.jar and locking launcher on memory. I'm going to try it your way and let's see if I actually can feel any difference. BTW I'm running JB with phantom kernel.
djtinxo said:
well that's interesting.. I've also been testing around with supercharger script and didn't find any values that actually pleased me... so the only thing I did was patching services.jar and locking launcher on memory. I'm going to try it your way and let's see if I actually can feel any difference. BTW I'm running JB with phantom kernel.
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I haven't tried it on JB tho. BTW I'm using Greenify to hibernate apps. But still i faced redraws. So I put values like very low. 8,12,22,30,35,40 current values and i'm testing this. Yday I patched services.jar and so far it's working fine. Until i'm pretty sure about it I'm not recommending patching it.

Need control of cached non active apps

Version 3.4, just released, no longer hibernates apps with no background activity.
One of my principal reasons for running Greenify is to stop apps from using memory when inactive. I want to keep as much memory available for certain apps so they don't get swapped out (web browser, etc).
With this release, I have to open Greenify or a task manager to even see what unwanted apps are chewing up memory.
It would be deeply appreciated if the ability to disable this new feature can be added soon.
I'm on a Nexus 6 with 3GB RAM but it still matters a lot to my usage.
I would also like this feature to be added. This
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is annoying to see.
Yeah this New Feature is really bad. Please change it @oasisfeng
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Yes, please add a setting to let people choose
@oasisfeng won't answer. He never does. He is not the dev helping people with problems... I can see it in ny other thread where i have a problem with Greenify...
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TP_NC_USER said:
Version 3.4, just released, no longer hibernates apps with no background activity.
One of my principal reasons for running Greenify is to stop apps from using memory when inactive. I want to keep as much memory available for certain apps so they don't get swapped out (web browser, etc).
With this release, I have to open Greenify or a task manager to even see what unwanted apps are chewing up memory.
It would be deeply appreciated if the ability to disable this new feature can be added soon.
I'm on a Nexus 6 with 3GB RAM but it still matters a lot to my usage.
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Black_Focus_X said:
Yeah this New Feature is really bad. Please change it @oasisfeng
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shaneel1491 said:
Yes, please add a setting to let people choose
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While a setting is preferred (at least by me) I believe the change introduced in version 3.4 remains true to the original intent of Greenify. Make no mistake I also use Greenify to 'hush' certain apps but it reflects a convenience versus expectation. I will likely need to consider other methods for accomplishing this objective.
I have no idea what you are talking about (my english is not so good) but this feature is bad and @oasisfeng may be a good dev but it is annoying that he never answers and help people...
Or did he help me here? No! I bet he could, but i think he isn't interested in...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3586715
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I have no idea what you are talking about (my english is not so good) but this feature is bad and @oasisfeng may be a good dev but it is annoying that he never answers and help people...
Or did he help me here? No! I bet he could, but i think he isn't interested in...
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"I have no idea what you are talking about..."
- agreed
- my previous response had nothing to do with your opinion of the developer
I agree that the possibility to disable this new feature would be great.
However I think it's a pretty good feature since it's less "brutal" than the original behavior of Greenify and it's closer to the way Android system manages resources.
An app without background service is not a problem for battery life and when it's cached startups are faster.
Yes more RAM is used but "free RAM is wasted RAM" and, as it's said in the changelog, it allows a "better task switching experience".
Correct me if I'm wrong
I did not mean it unfriendly if you think i did.
It is just saf that the dev has no interest to give Support
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I'd like to revert to the previous version but can't find any source I'd regard safe. Does anyone know of an archive of previous versions that can be trusted?
Just revert to previous version ...
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I'd like to revert to the previous version but can't find any source I'd regard safe. Does anyone know of an archive of previous versions that can be trusted?
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Download it from apk mirror. I did the same
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Download it from apk mirror. I did the same
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I've tried both the 3.3 beta and 3.2.2 from apk mirror but installation fails on both with "The package appears to be corrupt".
Tried it with both Chrome and Firefox on 7.1.1 Nexus 6. Interesting that it worked for you but not sure what to try except "deactivating" on play store page before attempting to install old version...
I really like it, but an option would not be bad.
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I agree that the possibility to disable this new feature would be great.
However I think it's a pretty good feature since it's less "brutal" than the original behavior of Greenify and it's closer to the way Android system manages resources.
An app without background service is not a problem for battery life and when it's cached startups are faster.
Yes more RAM is used but "free RAM is wasted RAM" and, as it's said in the changelog, it allows a "better task switching experience".
Correct me if I'm wrong
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free ram IS wasted ram but only with free ram can some heavier apps open & run smoothly so I too would like to have the option to choose
Please read here you maybe find more answers.
If I understood correctly then until now Greenify would hibernate the selected apps and they would not be running anymore at all.
This is nice because I don't like apps runnings in the backround with the ability to snoop around?
Now I have Google Maps, Chrome, ...... all still "active" which means they could always log some data or call home ?
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If I understood correctly then until now Greenify would hibernate the selected apps and they would not be running anymore at all.
This is nice because I don't like apps runnings in the backround with the ability to snoop around?
Now I have Google Maps, Chrome, ...... all still "active" which means they could always log some data or call home ?
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If Greenify indicates an app is "Background-free" then no activity takes place when the app is not in the foreground. Which is exactly the same conditions that existed prior to v3.4.2.

Question Memory usage and management

Even when my Xperia 1 IV is idle, it's using 47% of available RAM (4.97GB), which seems a lot.
Is there a good or go to memory management app that works well with the Xperia 1 IV?
How can I free some RAM up and keep it as freed up as possible?
There doesn't seem to be any memory info in the settings. Storage, yes, but. not memory.. ??
dbman2023 said:
Even when my Xperia 1 IV is idle, it's using 47% of available RAM (4.97GB), which seems a lot.
Is there a good or go to memory management app that works well with the Xperia 1 IV?
How can I free some RAM up and keep it as freed up as possible?
There doesn't seem to be any memory info in the settings. Storage, yes, but. not memory.. ??
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Forget about freeing up the memory manually.
The device is keeping whatever is necessary in the memory based on your usage, like apps that you use the most to provide you the fastest response when you open them. Plus android system is growing in size.
In cases when you play games or use something that is requiring more memory the phone will deal with it automatically. Swiping apps from recent is more than enough.
All those memory managing apps are total bs and making it worse, as they will force close the apps, but android will restart them again. You have more than enough RAM, so stop looking at the usage, unless you experience lags and wanna figure out which app causing them.
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Forget about freeing up the memory manually.
The device is keeping whatever is necessary in the memory based on your usage, like apps that you use the most to provide you the fastest response when you open them. Plus android system is growing in size.
In cases when you play games or use something that is requiring more memory the phone will deal with it automatically. Swiping apps from recent is more than enough.
All those memory managing apps are total bs and making it worse, as they will force close the apps, but android will restart them again. You have more than enough RAM, so stop looking at the usage, unless you experience lags and wanna figure out which app causing them.
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Fair points. Although, 4.9GB of memory use when the phone is idle for 7 hours seems unnecessary?
How can I view the memory usage without a 3rd-party app?
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Fair points. Although, 4.9GB of memory use when the phone is idle for 7 hours seems unnecessary?
How can I view the memory usage without a 3rd-party app?
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In developer options, if you click on it, you will see which apps are using memory. Android OS + system UI uses around 3gb of RAM, so this usage it's totally normal.
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In developer options, if you click on it, you will see which apps are using memory. Android OS + system UI uses around 3gb of RAM, so this usage it's totally normal.
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Thanks.
I didn't realize it needed so much for that, it seems a lot relative to the overall RAM.
In the Memory use section, it's showing 5.7GB average, with System UI using 196MB and Android OS using 2GB.
Android System 431MB, Google Play Services 316MB, Google 250MB, com.glgjing.captain 223MB, Side sense 179MB, Xperia Home 131MB, GBoard 123MB and others all under 100MB , totalling the 5.7GB average.
Does that seem as you'd expect?
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Thanks.
I didn't realize it needed so much for that, it seems a lot relative to the overall RAM.
In the Memory use section, it's showing 5.7GB average, with System UI using 196MB and Android OS using 2GB.
Android System 431MB, Google Play Services 316MB, Google 250MB, com.glgjing.captain 223MB, Side sense 179MB, Xperia Home 131MB, GBoard 123MB and others all under 100MB , totalling the 5.7GB average.
Does that seem as you'd expect?
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Seems alright to me. I think since there is more than enough RAM, the OS is fully loaded (ot at least the most part) in it, as it's faster than storage.
You shouldn't be worrying about RAM for at least 3 years.
.....and if only it would stop killing the apps every few hours....... it feels like it has 1.2GB of RAM and not 12. Honestly, my XZ2 was much better at that with 4x less RAM.
dbman2023 said:
Even when my Xperia 1 IV is idle, it's using 47% of available RAM (4.97GB), which seems a lot.
Is there a good or go to memory management app that works well with the Xperia 1 IV?
How can I free some RAM up and keep it as freed up as possible?
There doesn't seem to be any memory info in the settings. Storage, yes, but. not memory.. ??
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Why do you want to free up RAM on a Linux device as long your device behaves as it should?
It's Android 13. It seems to be normal for the Sony. I have noticed that the "idle" load is quite a bit lower on the S23 Ultra, despite the Samsung bloatware.
By using dark theme it will use more ram as i noticed on my phone. Even my win 11 devices behaving the same way. Normally i am around 50% but switching to dark theme will go up to 7.6GB usage. I have tryed several task killers but they just causing issues. My 1 IV is rooted and when i updated it to android 13 it got worst memory usage and thi idiot dynamic coloring peed me off so i went back to android 12. After fresh install and root and removing all sort of google apps and facebook and built in junks. My ram usage was 3.6GB But at this point only the cameras and messaging , contacts left running. As soon i've installed magisk and lsposed and started adding modules it arrived around 5.4GB

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