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mine have become significantly lower although i use siyah kernel especially antutu
what about you guys ? or are benchmarks useless ?
striving-to-survive said:
mine have become significantly lower although i use siyah kernel especially antutu
what about you guys ? or are benchmarks useless ?
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The last, useless. These tests are easy to manipulate by kernel buillders and devs so that parts of the test are skipped to raise the results.
Real time user feeling and smoothness of the rom/kernel is what counts mate
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The last, useless. These tests are easy to manipulate by kernel buillders and devs so that parts of the test are skipped to raise the results.
Real time user feeling and smoothness of the rom/kernel is what counts mate
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I agree that jelly bean is quite smooth now .. no lag whatsoever but the battery life has gone down the drain sadly
striving-to-survive said:
I agree that jelly bean is quite smooth now .. no lag whatsoever but the battery life has gone down the drain sadly
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It will get better after a few updates by Samsung.
gee2012 said:
It will get better after a few updates by Samsung.
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i certainly hope so ... they got a few bugs to get rid of and they have to find a way to give smoothness without killing the battery life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Das_lYSODo
This is how Oneplus X performs on low-light conditions, is this software related?
Update: It seems to be hardware related, Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old. I don't know if this is related to the camera but I already feel cheated as this CPU was marketed as "very similar" to the OPO, this explains why it stays miles away from the OPO and is beaten by phones like the Xiaomi mi 4 which is in the same prince range.
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
CafeKampuchia said:
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
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It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
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It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
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I'm waiting to see what the professional reviews say before drawing conclusions. Even so, I still won't care because I normally don't use my phone to record meaningful HD video.
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old.
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Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
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3rd!
People that blame the CPU for the current performance state of this device clearly don't know very much.
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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I rooted my device without unlocking bootloader.
I than tampered a little bit with the cpu and got way better performance in games as well
I considered flashing that kernel, too, but didn't want the hassle of resetting my device for it (unlocking bootloader). I'll do that when more custom roms are available.
CPU GOVENOR: ONDEMAND
I/O Scheduler: Scheduler: cfq & Read-ahead: 2048kb
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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you wont get ota if you mess with system partition = rooting
but it doesnt matter if you unlock -> backup boot -> flash blu_spark
and if ota is available you restore boot and flash ota
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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Hopefully the OTA will come next week.
Prykie1995 said:
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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I this iteration of the 801 has the talent to be an absolute beast. Just need to have decent firmware to run it.
Apparently the Oxygen kernel code is so messy.
Comments on MSM8974ProAA gaming performance
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Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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I far as i know the MSM8974PROAA has indeed the high GPU freq. (578 MHz) but compared to AB and AC variants it has much lower ISP freq. and RAM Memory Interface freq. I've an OPX E1003 with Antutu 5.7 3D score of ~11000, whereas the Galaxy S5 scores ~13500, so 22 percent better in gaming according to Antutu. The total antutu score is sligtly lower than of the Galaxy S5, but it seems largely to have to do with 3D performance.
But I noticed using a Usage Monitor app that Asphalt 8 really doesn't push this phone to the max (CPU and GPU wise) ánd has a low framerate (might be app specific issue). With the same Usage Monitor I found out Antutu 5.7 3D pushes the GPU freq. to the max (578 MHz) but still scores significantly below Galaxy S5. Gaming NFS Most Wanted is okey, but GTA San Andreas has lower framerates than expected. I didn't expect the differences between 2 SnapDragon 801 variants to be this big!
People are stating that the performance is much improved after flashing the kernel. So I want to ask how does GTA sanandreas run on the device is it comparable to the ONEPLUS ONE ? Could anyone maybe upload a short sample to youtube of the game running at max settings on the device with the Blu_spark kernel ?
Video I found of gta performance with stock kernel skip to 2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfUUhp_M54
With Blu spark it's exactly as one plus one performance.
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With Blu spark it's exactly as one plus one performance.
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Thats awesome also is it possible to overclock the X to 2.5Ghz ?
artrokas said:
Thats awesome also is it possible to overclock the X to 2.5Ghz ?
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No overclocking yet
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No overclocking yet
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Anyone working on it ? Is it even possible ?
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Anyone working on it ? Is it even possible ?
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Possible yes but not with Blu spark. Noone working on it as far as I know. Eng.stk could implement it in Blu spark but does not want to, which is the correct decision in my opinion.
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Possible yes but not with Blu spark. Noone working on it as far as I know. Eng.stk could implement it in Blu spark but does not want to, which is the correct decision in my opinion.
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Why wouldn't it be the correct decision ? it could be completely optional
Yeah. I wish that someone would even make a 2.5ghz possible as optional. People that tweak with kernels usually know what they are doing plus one setting that is above the normal values would not even bloat it. Also we have thermal limit that will kick in that there will be no damage. It would be nice to experiment just a little bit.
Ps. Still one helluva kernel. Thanks to eng.stk
Great kernel. I use it on CM 13 with an incredible undervolt. I'd bet I could hit even 2.8ghz easily and stay under stock voltages. Loving it for everything else though.
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Great kernel. I use it on CM 13 with an incredible undervolt. I'd bet I could hit even 2.8ghz easily and stay under stock voltages. Loving it for everything else though.
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That is a jesusphone if it can handle those voltages. Mine only does 950mv for 2.3ghz.
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That is a jesusphone if it can handle those voltages. Mine only does 950mv for 2.3ghz.
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Been my daily driver for a week. 729mhz was unstable so I had to raise it to 730mv from 725, but its great. Hence why I'd like more options for frequencies haha. I think I have an insanely high binned chip even though its an AA model. Can't wait to see what frequencies I can hit though.
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Been my daily driver for a week. 729mhz was unstable so I had to raise it to 730mv from 725, but its great. Hence why I'd like more options for frequencies haha. I think I have an insanely high binned chip even though its an AA model. Can't wait to see what frequencies I can hit though.
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Im just testing right now my new voltage values.
Now it seems like 930mv is also working for me. Not crashed after 3dmark, asphalt 8 and stability test. Also lowered 1900mhz to 915mv.
I think i can crash this with gta san andreas though.
E: WTF??? On OOS i could not uv under 950mv, but now i can. No crash and no slowdowns. Actually got a score of 1080 with 3dmark cloudgate. O_O
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Im just testing right now my new voltage values.
Now it seems like 930mv is also working for me. Not crashed after 3dmark, asphalt 8 and stability test. Also lowered 1900mhz to 915mv.
I think i can crash this with gta san andreas though.
E: WTF??? On OOS i could not uv under 950mv, but now i can. No crash and no slowdowns. Actually got a score of 1080 with 3dmark cloudgate. O_O
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925 actually works too, but I had a few bugs. Rule of thumb is generally 10mv above whatever works so I settled with 935. I will test 930 though. Had to raise 1900 to 910. 905 gave me issues in stability testing.
The Phone is stable at these settings.
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The Phone is stable at these settings.
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Now try a stress test from the play store. One of them uses root for scaling. Test each frequency for 15 minutes
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925 actually works too, but I had a few bugs. Rule of thumb is generally 10mv above whatever works so I settled with 935. I will test 930 though. Had to raise 1900 to 910. 905 gave me issues in stability testing.
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Im just testing right now my new voltage values.
Now it seems like 930mv is also working for me. Not crashed after 3dmark, asphalt 8 and stability test. Also lowered 1900mhz to 915mv.
I think i can crash this with gta san andreas though.
E: WTF??? On OOS i could not uv under 950mv, but now i can. No crash and no slowdowns. Actually got a score of 1080 with 3dmark cloudgate. O_O
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excuse me for being a noob, but, what's the main advantage of undervolting the cpu? is it done to achieve a longer battery life? it does not limit performance right?
i'm a new opx user and just flashed this awesome kernel and i'm interested in boosting performances of this awesome device.
may i have your current cpu volt setup? thanks a lot, sir.
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excuse me for being a noob, but, what's the main advantage of undervolting the cpu? is it done to achieve a longer battery life? it does not limit performance right?
i'm a new opx user and just flashed this awesome kernel and i'm interested in boosting performances of this awesome device.
may i have your current cpu volt setup? thanks a lot, sir.
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You dont want to use anyones voltage settings. Undervolting is random. Some people get amazing results while someone gets crashing.
Undervolting cpu makes the phone run cooler and will save a bit of battery also.
Less heat also means that the cpu will propably survive a bit longer. Same goes for battery because cpu temps affect the battery too.
You just need to test all the voltages yourself and see what works and what does not.
Always make a backup that if something goes wrong you can always restore the system.
Also if you undervolt dont go complaining to devs about crashing or system lockups.
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You dont want to use anyones voltage settings. Undervolting is random. Some people get amazing results while someone gets crashing.
Undervolting cpu makes the phone run cooler and will save a bit of battery also.
Less heat also means that the cpu will propably survive a bit longer. Same goes for battery because cpu temps affect the battery too.
You just need to test all the voltages yourself and see what works and what does not.
Always make a backup that if something goes wrong you can always restore the system.
Also if you undervolt dont go complaining to devs about crashing or system lockups.
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i didn't know if it was going to be this difficult haha. i thought using the same settings should be okay since its a same chipset and all, but i think its worth a shot.
okay then i'll go straight to kernel adiutor and set my own voltages.
another question and sorry if its out of topic, im using twrp 2.8.7.0 at the moment, i can create backup but i can't restore the backup, the error mentions about locked systems or partitions, forgot the exact error code, any ideas?
thanks
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i didn't know if it was going to be this difficult haha. i thought using the same settings should be okay since its a same chipset and all, but i think its worth a shot.
okay then i'll go straight to kernel adiutor and set my own voltages.
another question and sorry if its out of topic, im using twrp 2.8.7.0 at the moment, i can create backup but i can't restore the backup, the error mentions about locked systems or partitions, forgot the exact error code, any ideas?
thanks
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Just install the latest bluspark TWRP. It is working fine for me.
You can chmod 755 or 775 the sd card in TWRP it could make things better????
Dont know for sure about that one though.
If i remember correctly you can use the chmod command in TWRP's fike manager.
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Just install the latest bluspark TWRP. It is working fine for me.
You can chmod 755 or 775 the sd card in TWRP it could make things better????
Dont know for sure about that one though.
If i remember correctly you can use the chmod command in TWRP's fike manager.
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okay i'll try backing up again and then changing my cpu settings.
thanks a lot for your help.
I wonder if someone compared the performance.
Don't have two phones in order to compare them but it's obvious that 6gb ram phone is better in multitasking...
sonydesouza said:
Don't have two phones in order to compare them but it's obvious that 6gb ram phone is better in multitasking...
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Multitasking is not an issue since 2013. Performance is still a benchmark like app opening speed and gaming.
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Multitasking is not an issue since 2013. Performance is still a benchmark like app opening speed and gaming.
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Ok.
Anyway it's difficult to compare unless 2 phones...So...
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Ok.
Anyway it's difficult to compare unless 2 phones...So...
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thats true
I would like to read user reviews or even retail store comparisons..
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thats true
I would like to read user reviews or even retail store comparisons..
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Understood.
Anyway, i think that there is not a really difference in today's usage. The only difference is that it would keep apps in memory longer, assuming that it is coded correctly.
https://m.gsmarena.com/so_whats_up_with_the_xiaomi_mi_8_benchmark_scores-news-31992.php
This article was published by GSMarena in regards to the recent review they done on the Xiaomi Mi 8, after reading, I'm interested in what you guys think
I think mi 8 has a bad cooling
GSMARENA butt-hurt. Ignored..
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I think mi 8 has a bad cooling
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It seems that way, maybe Custom ROM's & kernels can help out in the future
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GSMARENA butt-hurt. Ignored..
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I don't think this article was bad against the Mi 8, I think they just tried to give a explanation for the benchmarks in the review
does it actually have bad thermal dissipation? bad review unit ?
I wonder since some people still waiting on how to achieve 300k antuntu score.
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does it actually have bad thermal dissipation? bad review unit ?
I wonder since some people still waiting on how to achieve 300k antuntu score.
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Apparently Xiaomi have capped the Snapdragon 845 because of thermal issues, which I imagine is heat dissipation yes
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I don't think this article was bad against the Mi 8, I think they just tried to give a explanation for the benchmarks in the review
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No offense, the benckmark tools is a gimmick thing. I personally don't care benchmark stuff included like AMD or NVIDIA. They're well paid by OnePlus & others too.
Dont know how gsmarea get such a bad score. I was on 9.5 Stable with my Mi8 and got about 269.000 points. With Miui10 Open Beta i havent tested, will try it later.
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Dont know how gsmarea get such a bad score. I was on 9.5 Stable with my Mi8 and got about 269.000 points. With Miui10 Open Beta i havent tested, will try it later.
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Same here : 266612 pts with MIUI 9.5
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does it actually have bad thermal dissipation? bad review unit ?
I wonder since some people still waiting on how to achieve 300k antuntu score.
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One guy achieved 290k on MIUI 10 China beta version so I think we can achieve it when we get the MIUI 10 stable build. Cause when mi6 was announced they told that it can achieve 182k but it even got 200k antutu score so I think there's a problem with the rom I guess. With custom roms it will perform like a beast.
I got from GSM Arena article that Mi8 is tuned for sustained performance and actual real world performance also, as after 10-15 minutes it even improved from 75% to 77%, but other Snapdragon 845 processors are tuned for benchmarks 5-10 mimutes performance and after that they fall down hard with crazy throttling...
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I got from GSM Arena article that Mi8 is tuned for sustained performance and actual real world performance also, as after 10-15 minutes it even improved from 75% to 77%, but other Snapdragon 845 processors are tuned for benchmarks 5-10 mimutes performance and after that they fall down hard with crazy throttling...
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But the performance loss increased until the device was cooled down completely, that isn't sustaining performance?
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https://m.gsmarena.com/so_whats_up_with_the_xiaomi_mi_8_benchmark_scores-news-31992.php
This article was published by GSMarena in regards to the recent review they done on the Xiaomi Mi 8, after reading, I'm interested in what you guys think
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Over 29k here @5:48
Arsh99 said:
Same here : 266612 pts with MIUI 9.5
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2870000 with Eu Rom
vampsoft said:
2870000 with Eu Rom
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i think u got a 0 to many
otherwise u have the fastes phone ever there hit over 2 mil in score ?
If bad score, mean overheating then why they never mentioned S9+, LG & others too? Weird..
286000 on MIUI10 Beta
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i got 270k with factory settings
291.000 points withi xiaomi.eu 8.6.28 ROM.