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Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
Specs is one thing. What's important is real life performance and if there's any other possible flaw. Gtab actually looks not bad, but the software performance bogged it down. I'd by the time the Toshiba tablet is released, icecream sandwich may be released or close to be released. So unless the performance of the Toshiba tab is another class higher than grab, I see no point thinking too much about it.
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Looks almost identical to the Gtab! same resolution display too.... Won't be long before Apple will be taking Toshiba to the courts over this!! (or maybe Samsung will!??)
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Serious_Beans said:
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
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I looked at the Engadget review and the tablet looked pretty slow to me, I might be wrong. I'm very happy with my P7510 running on a vanilla 3.1 Honeycomb (soon to run on PhantomHacker's 3.2 vanilla ROM) and I'm looking forward to see Ice Cream on it.
The thing is, we will never purchase a tablet if we wait for the next "big one" to come out. Technology changes so fast that is not worth to trouble yourself. Just enjoy the tablet and use it to death, I personally think that my Tab 10.1 is an excellent product.
Well, I am not waiting for the next big one but just for one that does not have Tegra2 inside, looks OK, has I/O's I want and 3G connectivity.
So, just to have something for now I bought iPad 1 3G few weeks ago. As it is very limited device I was waiting for it to get right price. $350 for new one on warranty is OK. Now I can wait till end of the year to get Excite or Holiday or TF2 or Xoom2.... Will see.
If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
The Tosh looks very nice, another weapon in the Android armoury. I'm still very happy with my Samsung 16Gb Wifi.
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If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
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It would be all true if folks like me could actually get it.
IMHO if you want (especially 3G) tablet now, good one, for reasonable price, just to keep you going till the one you really want is out iPad1 seems like a great deal.
Does most of the stuff Tegra 2 tablets do, has 3G and new one can still be found pretty cheap (half of the zoom price for example). And form me video capabilities all almost the same.
There will be always something new and better than what's available currently in the market. By the time Toshiba excite gets released to the market, even more better tablet with awesome specs will be shown at a new tech show taking place anywhere on this planet Earth.
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galtom said:
Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
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I'm feeling exactly the same as you. The size and weight of the GT 10.1 was perfect but the poor video decoding performance of the Tegra 2 and lack of MicroSD card slot was a real let down. The AT200 seems like it will be perfect for me (assuming the OMAP proc is a lot better for video decoding). I just hope it comes out real soon to the UK market. If they delay it too long then I may be put off with official specs of ICS tablets.
It is the same SOC as in new Archos G9 series (like them but they look "cheap") and they say it will "Play" anything and everything. ;-)
Dont even think about getting the tab 10.
The Ti OMAP4 4430 in the toshiba is far superior to Tegra 2.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has A9 cores with Neon processing. Tergra 2 does not have the Neon processing and will be much slower when running apps which use Neon code and alot of apps are starting to use it.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has DUAL channel memory controller. Tegra 2 only has a single channel. Since video memory is shared, dual channel will give double the memory bandwidth which is highly needed since video memory is shared from system memory.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has SUPERIOR video decoding hardware compared to tegra 2. You can finally play real HD 1080p video. Tegra 2 decoder is so slow it cant decode main and high HD profiles which is what everyone uses.
For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
mankoorb said:
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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Full specs have been released.
Does it have an amazing screen like the Samsung SPLS? Screen quality along with weight is what made my decision. However im disappointed in the current state of honeycomb/tablet apps. I would expect apps like Google+ to have the hangout video support. Lack of skype video is also a huge downer. My older samsung galaxy 7 also had way better video playing support.
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For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
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This is a false statement. Never ever have I contradicted myself. Never.
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On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
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No, but don't worry, I do not think Europe has one either .
And two facts:
1. OMAP is a definitely better SOC than Tegra 2 - no arguing here. The only thing at which Tegra 2 might be better (we will have to wait and see, but I doubt it myself) is energy management.
I am worried about battery life of a tablet with 1,2 - 1,5 Ghz clock.
2. It will be cheaper in US than in EU - fact.
Now, one more "issue" we might encounter by the time it is in the shops. What will be a better choice - tablet with Omap4 or Tegra3/Kal-El with 4 cores and new architecture? (unless nvidia made an intel trick or the one they do with graphic cards - Tegra 3 is two Tegra 2 cpu's on a single chip - this would suck I think)
I'm looking to upgrade from my original Galaxy Tab within the next few weeks. I have narrowed my search down to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the Sony Tablet S. There obviously isn't a Tablet S forum to ask this question yet, but I was wondering what the Tab owner's opinion would be.
Should I get the already-established Tab 10.1, or spring for the brand new Tablet S?
i took the plunge and bought the 32gb 10.1 at the weekend and am loving it so far. Couple of work arounds like using USB adaptor to actually put stuff on it from my mac as try as I might, WIFI transfer and joke that is Kies wouldn't work with my mac.
Like I said, have a work around and haven't encountered any issues yet. The HDMI adaptor is also working a treat...have to have it plugged into the power supply but great picture and sound through the TV.
I thought about the S1 too, but I think with the note book design, it'll be too thick. The 10.1 just feels right in the hand. Nearly waited for the smaller Galaxy Tab 8.9 , but the 10.1 with wide screen it a great size for travel and watching on my TV at home which is the main reason for me to get it.
All about preference
Neither.
Hold off and get something with a better CPU.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Tab but Tegra2 is not all that great and with the next wave of tablets like the Galaxy Tab 7.7, the Toshiba A200 and the widely-rumoured Amazon tablet(s) all featuring far superior CPUs, if you can hold off it'll be worth it.
Unless your in the U.S. The tab 7.7 doesn't look like it's coming to the U.S. due to it's ability to be a phone no service provider will work with it. And if you live outside the U.S. the Amazon Kindle Tablet will have only the Amazon app store installed on it and only 8gb. Not too mention no Google support.
Since your in a forum now I am guessing your ready to buy now and not wait. I researched forever when I purchased my Tab 10.1 back in June. Absolutely love it! It's so light, the screen is amazing, touchwiz is OK and after Installing Adw ex from the market it is so smooth. My co-workers awe struck when using it. Two of whom have dropped over a grand on ipad 1 and 2 now want to switch to Android because of its customization. With Ice Cream Sandwich coming everything is moving into the cloud for storage making USB or SD cards non important for tablets.
Get a Tab.
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Unless your in the U.S. The tab 7.7 doesn't look like it's coming to the U.S. due to it's ability to be a phone no service provider will work with it.
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The original 7" Galaxy Tab had the ability to function as a phone and, unless I'm mistaken, every major US network carried it - they just disabled that function.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
And if you live outside the U.S. the Amazon Kindle Tablet will have only the Amazon app store installed on it and only 8gb. Not too mention no Google support.
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If it's Android, people will find a way to put the Google apps onto it.
I'm just going by what I have read, which is the 7.7 is not coming to the u.s. (we haven't even sniffed the 8.9 yet) And this I do not know of, but can other countries access the amazon app store?
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
I'm just going by what I have read, which is the 7.7 is not coming to the u.s. (we haven't even sniffed the 8.9 yet)
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No-one's had the 8.9 yet, so that doesn't really mean anything.
And whilst I appreciate that you're only repeating what's been said elsewhere, the problem with that is that it's a matter of days since the Tab 7.7 was unveiled, nothing will have been decided yet...
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And this I do not know of, but can other countries access the amazon app store?
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Not without tricking your phone into thinking it's in the US, I don't think.
I'm actually surprised about the number of responses! The original Tab's forums are slow.
I have the T-mobile version of the Galaxy Tab and I am in the US, so I'm stuck deciding either to have voice calls, or use 3g. This only effects the T-mobile tabs too, guh.
Since I am in the US, I'm not going to see the Tab 7.7, and after having a 7 inch tab for a while, I can say that there are a few reasons why I don't want to have another. Portability was great, but I have a Captivate, which essentially does everything my Galaxy Tab does, only on a smaller screen.
Amazon's tablets are going to lack Google support, which is a very important thing to have, so I'm going to pass those up.
You guys are talking me out of the Tablet S with all this praising of the Tab 10.1. Are there any cons I should be worried about?
steckums said:
Amazon's tablets are going to lack Google support, which is a very important thing to have, so I'm going to pass those up.
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I can't help but imagine that quite quickly after release, someone will work out how to get the proper Android market up and running on the Amazon Tabs.
But it's understandable that you wouldn't want to take the risk, not to mention the first one to be released is likely to be a 7" model, unless I'm mistaken...
steckums said:
You guys are talking me out of the Tablet S with all this praising of the Tab 10.1.
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It's pretty obvious why - it's the best [Android] tablet on the market just now.
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Are there any cons I should be worried about?
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The lack of a memory card slot on the wi-fi model is criminal but other than that, not really.
Just don't use TouchWiz and you'll be fine.
I definitely would say 10.1... However, I do like Touchwiz
Sammy 10.1 hands down!
Seeing as the Tablet S is more or less preloaded with those apps, and I'll be able to get most of them elsewhere, all except the universal remote, I'll pick up the Tab 10.1. Especially reading that the Tablet S has some issues with getting scratched easily on the screen and the cheap feeling casing.
Now my next question will be what accessories would be worth investing and where should I get them? Obviously, I'd like a case, and the USB adapter would be a worthwhile investment. Is the docking station/HDMI connector and/or keyboard dock worth getting at all?
Now, I hear a bunch of mixed results for Touchwiz. I'm quite familiar with using TouchWiz on my original Tab and my Captivate, so that has essentially been the whole Android experience for me. At least I think. I normally don't use the default launcher, I've stuck it out with ADW for as long as I can remember, so what will I be missing out by using TouchWiz vs the AOSP ROMs?
Speaking of ROMs, which one should I flash over first?
And the final question is, white or grey?
No down about Tab 10.1 thump up...
Touchwiz stabilizes many of the bugs I was running into on stock honeycomb (browser crash, keyboard lag)
I also love the version of Swype that came with it.
I wouldn't go back to stock at this point, even though I prefer the stcok look. It's easy enough to get a different launcher, though. In any case, you can always go back to stock.
As the owner of a Vibrant, I can say the Tab's version of TW seems quite a bit less intrusive than tw 3.0 on your captivate. Honestly, I never hated it on the Vib either, just the look of it and I put lp on to solve that.
Anyway, I find the tab a joy to use. I barely use my phone (unless it's to tether) or my desktop anymore.
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The grey one. White reminds me too much of an ipad.
I think the only reason to get a Sony would be if you already have a house full of Sony devices that can benefit from the integration it purportedly can offer. As it is, those features are probably easily supplanted by regular apps from the Market.
Purchasing ANY tegra 2 tablet right now would be the biggest mistake you can make. Especially if you already have a tablet and want to upgrade.
Tegra 2 is a VERY old SoC. I does not run many HD video due to its very slow video accelerator. This is a big problem with tegra 2 units.
Quad core tablets with true HD video hardware acceleration start shipping next month. They will be just as thin as current tablets and have similar battery life. Dont waste your money on Tegra 2. You have been warned. Tegra 2 is for phones not tablets.
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Purchasing ANY tegra 2 tablet right now would be the biggest mistake you can make. Especially if you already have a tablet and want to upgrade.
Tegra 2 is a VERY old SoC. I does not run many HD video due to its very slow video accelerator. This is a big problem with tegra 2 units.
Quad core tablets with true HD video hardware acceleration start shipping next month. They will be just as thin as current tablets and have similar battery life. Dont waste your money on Tegra 2. You have been warned. Tegra 2 is for phones not tablets.
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What are some quad core tablets I could look into?
The only two companies who are expected to release quad-core tablets soon are Amazon and Asus.
However, last I heard, Amazon had put back their quad-core 10" tablet 'til next year and there was no expected date for Asus' follow-up to the Transformer.
Yap, I agree with step, get an asus, a quad core would be better to perform everythg, including replacing a netbook. Perhaps a quad core is able.to boot a window 8 , lol
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Step666 said:
The only two companies who are expected to release quad-core tablets soon are Amazon and Asus.
However, last I heard, Amazon had put back their quad-core 10" tablet 'til next year and there was no expected date for Asus' follow-up to the Transformer.
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That info is good enough for me. I bought the original Tab back in March, and upgraded 6 months later. I plan on having the Tab 10.1 last me closer to a year, and with no expected date for the first gen quad cores, I'm sure I'll be able to nab one in a back to school sale or something like that this time next year.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/noo...Misc-_-111107_MI01_ACCLAIM_LAUNCH_NM-_-a1pprd
It's here.....
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Sialis said:
Better than kindle fire
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Yeah, I cancelled my Kindle Fire order today in favor of this.
Anyone know if there will be an ICS build for this? I'm 100% ordering it if there is. Much better than Kindle Fire IMO. Id even be pretty content with Honeycomb.
is anyone know what is different between Nook tablet and colour？
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is anyone know what is different between Nook tablet and colour？
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Twice the RAM and a Dual-core CPU are the two big changes. NT may have a better looking screen but we'll have to see for ourselves. NT is lighter, though not my much and it has a MIC.
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Anyone know if there will be an ICS build for this? I'm 100% ordering it if there is. Much better than Kindle Fire IMO. Id even be pretty content with Honeycomb.
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No way to tell 100% until the device as well as the source for ICS are actually released. All depends on developer support, but more than likely we will see ICS on NT. As for honeycomb...don't hold your breath. It's unlikely that we will ever see anything other than SDK ports....but who really cares with ICS around the corner?
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is anyone know what is different between Nook tablet and colour？
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337850
Pre-ordered
I hope in CM Team now
No ICS. The just released SDK for the Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread (API level 10). I am assuming the corresponding NC update will also be Gingerbread.
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No ICS. The just released SDK for the Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread (API level 10). I am assuming the corresponding NC update will also be Gingerbread.
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Of course it isn't ICS, that isn't AOSP yet, only Samsung/Google has access to that atm. It might get an official update to it in the future, maybe.
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NT may have a better looking screen but we'll have to see for ourselves. NT is lighter, though not my much and it has a MIC.
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I'm not sure how a screen looks better when the density (169dpi) and resolution (1024x600) will remain the same.
I own NC, NSTR, iPad2. Was hanging out for a Samsung Galaxy 7.7, but currently not available for sale due to the shenanigan court injunction (Apple vs Samsung).
Galaxy has a screen res of 1200x800, which I think will be a winner in terms of... viewing any multimedia I guess? For comparison, iPad2 is 1024x768, which is a bit better than 1024x600, but less than Galaxy.
As for NSTR, it is the best eReader out on the market at present. Light (200g = weight of an average novel), uses eInk (battery last long), root-able (see Nook Touch forum here). NC and NT are heavy, and it's arguable if they can be called eReaders. It's like calling my laptop an eReader - it can be done, but is it really?
So, now B&N has come out swinging punches into the tablet arena. NT IS a tablet and should be compared to iPad, Galaxy, KF, and Acer Iconia (brick!!), and not with an eReader.
But frankly, the lack of resolution is a turn-off for people like me. Resolution is more important for what I want to make my tablet do, compared to CPU or GPU. Watching video? Meh...
As to the comparison of NC and NT, the only obvious improvement is battery life (+3hr), processor (dual vs single core), and mem (+8G).
COME AT ME BRO.
Just pre-ordered mine. Super stoked B)
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From B&N, few days ago:
"Thank you for shopping with us.
Your order is scheduled to ship and the details are listed below.
[...]
Product Description- Quantity - Expected Ship Date
NOOK Tablet ----------1-----------11-18-2011---"
Damn I really can't wait!!!
Just got the call, mines in. Will be picking it up tonight!
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I'm not sure how a screen looks better when the density (169dpi) and resolution (1024x600) will remain the same.
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BN has been stressing the laminated screen on the NT, but I think it's the same as the NC. That's why people are saying it may be better.
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But frankly, the lack of resolution is a turn-off for people like me. Resolution is more important for what I want to make my tablet do, compared to CPU or GPU. Watching video? Meh...
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When the NC came out, 800x480 was standard for tablets that cost near $200, and they weren't even IPS. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 would probably cost $499 minimum with screen and resolution it has.
Okay I am looking for a tablet to complement/ work with my i777 running CM7. I am looking for a tablet in the 7-8 screen size. Would like one that is heavily supported and would LOVE to run CM7 or CM9. I started looking at the Samsung 7.7 Tab and 8.9 but it has its downfalls from what I see, no ext micros sd slot. Also looking for a wifi only tab. Any thoughts from those that have/use a tab with their phone?
Like I said and i hope this doesnt get closed for being in the wrong section, but I want to make sure it will work flawless with my i777 is why I posted here.
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I have a xoom (pretty much the nexus of tablets) and I love it for that reason, but it's 10.1 inches and the hardware has been surpassed. I would go SAMSUNG if anything
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I have a Tab 10.1 with a ZAGG combo keyboard/case. So does Task650. It's a bit dated though. No MicroSD slot, but the USB host adapter is $20 and works great.
Don't know about the 8.9.
The Tab 7 Plus had great potential, but Samsung ****ed it up with a closed-source wifi driver that seems to have some nasty bugs. Their attitude towards that (It's BSD-licensed, so they COULD release source and have no reason not to, but they chose not to) has soured me on Samsung to the point where the GS2 might be my last Samsung device if they don't change their attitude. (I don't own a 7 Plus, but I have been giving garyd9 a lot of assistance with it - his experiences were the final evidence that Samsung's attitude towards platform developers is "**** off, go away, we've met our bare minimum legal requirements")
The Tab 7.7 has potential - 1.4 GHz Exynos, the first tablet with an AMOLED display - if it has an AR6000 wifi chipset avoid it though (see above regarding the 7 Plus).
You may want to wait to see what hits the market in the next few months - Asus ****ed up the Prime (locked bootloader, metal body that kills wifi/GPS performance), kind of like they made some stupid mistakes with the Transformer, but other quadcore tablets should follow soon. Honestly even a 10.1" dualcore Exynos with a fully open source kernel would make me drop my current 10.1 in a heartbeat - the Tegra2's media capabilities are pretty crappy.
I only have the HP touchpad with android. Planning to buy the ipad 3 when it's out because i don't have 3G with my touchpad.
Thanks fpr the replies. The xoom and Samsung were what I was thinking about at first. So thanks for the info. On tbat note have you modded your tabs quite a bit? Do the mods use samsung based roms? Can CM7/9 be installed at some point with them? Any other decent ones to look at. Not planning on spending too much, maybe in the 3-400 range unless somethong really gets my attention.
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I wish I would have bought the Xoom instead. I have the Toshiba Thrive and development on that tablet is completely dead. But I enjoy the full SD card slot, full HDMI port and full size USB port.
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Loving CM9 on my TouchPad. It may be "dead" in terms of sales and marketing, but it sold more units than any Android tablet to date. Don't know what the Fire will do to the numbers, but last data I saw showed the only tablet that sold more units was the iPad/iPad 2.
Its kinda funny that my TouchPad has a solid ICS ROM before my i777. Its not 100% complete, but it covers 95% of my use.
Like the i777, there is a large base of community support. With so many units out there there is a ton of support, and dev activity.
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I have the acer iconia a500. Its basically a generic xoom. Has been great.
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I'm liking the Tab 10.1 I just picked up. It has some good development. I couldn't imagine using one of the smaller tablets; I just don't see the point. I enjoy the larger screen.
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I'm liking the Tab 10.1 I just picked up. It has some good development. I couldn't imagine using one of the smaller tablets; I just don't see the point. I enjoy the larger screen.
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There is no official CM support yet, but CM9 is in process. There are some unofficial kangs.
Cyanogen himself is working on that one.
I had an Ipad 2 and recently sold it for the same price I bought it for
I'm waiting on the Transformer Prime to hit Best Buy on Jan 30th so I should be able to see how good it is once I get it.
I've heard it has some nasty bugs though???
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There is no official CM support yet, but CM9 is in process. There are some unofficial kangs.
Cyanogen himself is working on that one.
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Woot.com has the 9.7" 32GB Touchpad today for $220.
Im waiting for the new ASUS Transformer 7" Quadcore for $250.
ive never owned a tab before and have been considering to buy one.
do you guys generally stick with the same brand with phone and tabs (samsung phone and samsung tab)?
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ive never owned a tab before and have been considering to buy one.
do you guys generally stick with the same brand with phone and tabs (samsung phone and samsung tab)?
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Tablets are changing as fast as mobile phones so no reason to stick to the same brand.
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ive never owned a tab before and have been considering to buy one.
do you guys generally stick with the same brand with phone and tabs (samsung phone and samsung tab)?
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no reason to. its not like they pair up any better with each other or anything.
i love my galaxy tab 10.1
my kid loves his touchpad runnin cm7 (cant pry it out of his fingers long enough for upgrade to 9)
my wife loves my ipad
@OP,
try some out and see for yourself which one suits you best.
Galaxy Tab 10.1 with CM9 preview. Surprisingly working very damn well. Even with it's quirks, I feel like it's more functional/fluid than before. I will miss Samsung's video codecs, though
Just picked up the Asus TFP on Tuesday. I really like it. Had to drive about an hour to find one. For those looking at Best Buy stores should really look at their stand alone Best Buy Mobile stores (usually in malls) as many already have it. The search on their site does not include the stand alone mobiles FYI. Reading the forums here I was really hesitant to upgrade to ICS but after 2-3hours of solid heavy use everything (except adding favorites on the XDA app) works great. Some have reported poor wifi signal but mine seems great so far.
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Just picked up the Asus TFP on Tuesday. I really like it. Had to drive about an hour to find one. For those looking at Best Buy stores should really look at their stand alone Best Buy Mobile stores (usually in malls) as many already have it. The search on their site does not include the stand alone mobiles FYI. Reading the forums here I was really hesitant to upgrade to ICS but after 2-3hours of solid heavy use everything (except adding favorites on the XDA app) works great. Some have reported poor wifi signal but mine seems great so far.
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I have a Prime with ICS and it is amazing. A great compliment for the SGS2.
I call the combo my "Low PPI Plateau."
I will let everyone else break in high-res phones and tablets while I use the two most popular Android resolutions for each device with the maximum amount of power for that res.
Tab 10.1 + i777= WINNING
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My sister really wants a pocketable music player/camera/ of some kind. Mom won't get her a phone and is therefore considering an iPod touch, even though my sister shares my hatred of apple products. All said, an android PMP would be perfect for her.
No, an old phone without cellular access would not be ok, my mom... its easier not to try to explain, she just isn't ok with that. =P
So, I went to look up the Samsung Galaxy Players (as the only android PMPs i know are Samsung and Archos, and the Archos ones look disappointing) and i found there were no complete/reliable spec sheets anywhere on the internet >_< information was either vague (EG unspecified 1 GHz processor) or conflicting.
I'm looking between the Galaxy players 4.0, 4,2, and 5.0.
Which is better? screen size and internal storage do not matter as much as screen resolution, RAM, CPU, and SD card. I'm looking to get the best one i can buy at this point, not the best bang-for-your-buck one.
also, i found this device on GSMArena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_player_70_plus-4633.php
Anyone know anything about it?
As i said, there's not much on the internet about the galaxy players. Any help from you guys would be appreciated
NOTE: yes, i consider a 5" screen pocketable. So does my sister. A 7" tablet (EG nexus 7), however, is not, so that's not an option.
They all suffer from lack of RAM at this point. Maybe you should wait for a new model to be released...if they ever release one. Personally I like the 5.0 because of its screen size, and that's about it. As a PMP they all work fine. In terms of processing power the 4 and 5 are the same, not sure about the 4.2. both the 4 and 5 are SD Card expandable, again not sure about the 4.2. Lastly, that device you linked to looks very promising. Kinda like a Galaxy Player 5.0 2! I hadn't even heard of it until you. To sum it all up, They all work well as PMP's, and they all perform pretty similarly. That 70+ looks way better than any of the previous models, so if you could get your hands on that, go for it.
-arceusg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 All specs are here. However I say the 4.0 is the best because it's more the all rounder PMP player, but the 5.0 has more custom roms. All the spec sheets for all galaxy player are found on Samsung's site. You click tech specs, and then hit the PDF file above.
Do you only want "Android only" players, because there are some other good ones too. The Sony Walkman Z is also android only and is dual core. You can try looking at the Cowon J3, or D3. But I would wait because Samsung is probably going to release a new Galaxy Player. That Device you linked is the Galaxy Player 70 Plus. It is Samsungs first dual core player, but it was only released in Korea. It is based of the Galaxy S2, similar to how the Galaxy player 4.0 is similar to the GS1.
It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
zaclimon said:
It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
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*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
euphoriaflow said:
The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
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5.8 sounds sweet, actually
she mainly wants it for music, web browsing, and games (mainly angry birds, minecraft PE, and fruit ninja), and i plan to throw GrooveIP on there eventually
ROMs aren't that important, but i do plan to help her root eventually.
Didn't know any of the walkmans were android powered, i'll have to check that out
and i do plan to let her make the final decision, if they're close. however, i want to give her the best options, not every option. I'm sure you understand.
mtmerrick said:
*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
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Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
zaclimon said:
Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
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Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
5.0 if you cant wait and if you can that new 5.8...i have 5.0 and i love it..i have also android phone with 4.0 inch screen and 2 tablets with 7 and 10.1 and of all them i use SGS 5.0 most of the time and it was cheapest of all device i have.
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mtmerrick said:
Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
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Maybe US will ban all samsung products and everything that is not apple
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It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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Right now the Walkman Z is looking like the best overall device, even with its lack of removable storage. Only things that irks me about it is the charging cable and the lack of cameras. I like the Walkman because the SoC (Tegra 2 + 1GB RAM) is the same as my tablet, so I now its going to be powerful enough. What CPU/RAM do the 4.0, 4.2, and 5.0 have?
kesongpinoy said:
It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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I dont see any pixel on mine and if i try.
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Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
baladev said:
Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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even this is relative, it depends on what you need it for. If you want to play some very heavy 3d games, you need more power, but you will sacrifise the battery life.
If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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Mine 5.0 works on 1.2 ghz it had power vr chip 540 ..all games that i have like gta 3 ,max payne ,fifa 12 ,real racing 2 etc works smoothly if that was your anwser.Power Vr 540 chip on 800x480 resolution gives higher FPS then tegra 3 on tablet resolution so 3d want be a problem ..for future games only problem could be single core processor.
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I think it's the 4.0 or the 5.0 because they already have ROMs
Well, I own a Samsung Galaxy Player 4 and 4.2. For My the best between both devices is 4.2. The quality of sound and fluency is better. The only problem is sometimes when I use skype the 4.2 restart the system. :banghead:
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I love my 4.0. It's smaller and fits well in a pocket. But girls have purses so I guess she wouldn't mind something bigger. I'd suggest you to wait for the new 5.8, it will be blazing fast with its dual core.