[Q] Confusion about android basics - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Tbh, i know just jack about ROMs and aokp or aosp builds.
Im much confused between what are and the differences b/w AOSP and AOKP builds. and what is Omega (is it a ROM? or is the base for AOKP. i mean i just dont understand all this confusion .. u get the idea how much i know )
if CM is a ROM and AOSP is its base, then is CM also on AOKP ? if im wrong in what i understand pls correct and teach me from zero.
i know about rooting phone just confused between all the technical terms and ROMs and builds and whats Omega, and hows it diff from CM etc. etc.
Pls im desperate and eager. Anybodies time is greatly appreciated
Thanks!
just btw, using galaxy s3 (intl.) rooted and cm11 nightly flashed.

All ROMs are based on AOSP. Since that's the thing people call Android. There are then ROMs that are based on any of the 3 biggest ROMs out there. So you might see a ROM that's based on CM which in turn is based on AOSP.
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SMillerNL said:
All ROMs are based on AOSP. Since that's the thing people call Android. There are then ROMs that are based on any of the 3 biggest ROMs out there. So you might see a ROM that's based on CM which in turn is based on AOSP.
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alright i get your point.. but then is CM also on AOKP now? and what is Omega? and what could be better Omega or CM ?

akijazz05 said:
alright i get your point.. but then is CM also on AOKP now? and what is Omega? and what could be better Omega or CM ?
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No, CM is not on AOKP. They are two completely different derivatives of AOSP. I have no idea what omega is. You'll just have to do some research for yourself.
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[Q] difference between AOSP and CyanogenMod roms

Hi guys, im new here. Can anyone please explain whats the main difference between aosp roms and cyanogenMod roms.
thanks a lot!
It's a pity that no one replied. I'd like to know that too
mobilequest said:
It's a pity that no one replied. I'd like to know that too
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AOSP= Android open source project.
Cyanogen= this is the developer team.This team create many good custom roms, and Cyanogen a nick name,I think so
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dysan0201 said:
AOSP= Android open source project.
Cyanogen= this is the developer team.This team create many good custom roms, and Cyanogen a nick name,I think so
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Yeah I know that but is Cyanogenmod an AOSP-ROM?
mobilequest said:
Yeah I know that but is Cyanogenmod an AOSP-ROM?
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It is based on the AOSP coding with ALOT of changes and alot of recoding. So while it is based on the source code it is not pure AOSP.
Now I get it. Thank you very much zelendel :victory:
do they accept AOSP based kernels??? IE: I have CM 12.1 and want to use a KT aosp 5.1... Is that the correct conversion?
Thanks
anonymoustl said:
do they accept AOSP based kernels??? IE: I have CM 12.1 and want to use a KT aosp 5.1... Is that the correct conversion?
Thanks
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No they don't accept AOSP kernels. They are as far away from AOSP as any oem rom
zelendel said:
No they don't accept AOSP kernels. They are as far away from AOSP as any oem rom
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if i install a pure aosp rom, can i use cm themes?
reg66 said:
if i install a pure aosp rom, can i use cm themes?
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No you cant. A pure AOSP rom doesnt have the theme engine and with the upcoming android version CM themes will no longer work due to RRO which is android own theming set up.

[Q] Bootloop with perseus kernel [SOLVED]

Hi guys,
I am newbie, my S3 i9300 is using temasek 10.1 rom and his amazing lastest kernel. About batterylife saving, I am trying to find out the ASV version of my S3 to get right value for stweak app by flashing perseus kernel together with flashing unchecksetonboot.zip as manual but I faced the bootloop, my S3 could not started. I have tried the ways (only flash perseus kernel (36.3) or flash perseus kernel together with flashing unchecksetonboot.zip) but it was not booted. I do not know how to solve this.
I could not post my question in Temasek's thread because i am newbie. Is there someone else like me and any help for me, please!
I hope Temasek can see my question.
Thanks a lot!
vinhtq79 said:
Hi guys,
I am newbie, my S3 i9300 is using temasek 10.1 rom and his amazing lastest kernel. About batterylife saving, I am trying to find out the ASV version of my S3 to get right value for stweak app by flashing perseus kernel together with flashing unchecksetonboot.zip as manual but I faced the bootloop, my S3 could not started. I have tried the ways (only flash perseus kernel (36.3) or flash perseus kernel together with flashing unchecksetonboot.zip) but it was not booted. I do not know how to solve this.
I could not post my question in Temasek's thread because i am newbie. Is there someone else like me and any help for me, please!
I hope Temasek can see my question.
Thanks a lot!
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TL;DR: before flashing aside from known issues in the second post.
This isn't an AOSP kernel. I won't work with CM and AOSP derivatives.
DOESN'T WORK ON SAMSUNG JELLYBEAN 4.2.1 ROMS.
JustArchi said:
TL;DR: before flashing aside from known issues in the second post.
This isn't an AOSP kernel. I won't work with CM and AOSP derivatives.
DOESN'T WORK ON SAMSUNG JELLYBEAN 4.2.1 ROMS.
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It is my BAD.
I have read this but till do not know why, I do know that temasek's rom is an CM derivative. Perseus kernel is not AOSP kernel. So could you guys teach me what ROM (AOKP rom but not CM) I have to flash to be compatible with perseus kernel? i am confused
Sorry for my BAD.
vinhtq79 said:
It is my BAD.
I have read this but till do not know why, I do know that temasek's rom is an CM derivative. Perseus kernel is not AOSP kernel. So could you guys teach me what ROM (AOKP rom but not CM) I have to flash to be compatible with perseus kernel? i am confused
Sorry for my BAD.
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All Samsung (or Sammy) derivatives that means all Rom with XX... in its name, MC3, etc. And 4.1.x only. See thread's titles it's written there.
Striatum_bdr said:
All Samsung (or Sammy) derivatives that means all Rom with XX... in its name, MC3, etc. And 4.1.x only. See thread's titles it's written there.
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You open my mind! I am too stupid to think that Sammy ROM derivatives is AOSP, My BAD.
Even I do not really understand about AOSP ROM because of this words " The name is often co-opted for custom ROMs that are very close to the original AOSP, from What's the difference between an AOSP ROM and a stock ROM?"
But as you teach me, I will chose a Sammy ROM derivatives without the AOSP note in ROM.
Iam downloading a [ROM][MC3][JKAY] Purelook HD v5.0 I SGS 4 + Xperia Z ROM. Hope it works.
I will try to improve my self step by step.
Thank you! :highfive:
vinhtq79 said:
You open my mind! I am too stupid to think that Sammy ROM derivatives is AOSP, My BAD.
Even I am not really understand about AOSP ROM because of this words " The name is often co-opted for custom ROMs that are very close to the original AOSP, from What's the difference between an AOSP ROM and a stock ROM?"
But as you teach me, I will chose a Sammy ROM derivatives without the AOSP note in ROM.
Iam downloading a [ROM][MC3][JKAY] Purelook HD v5.0 I SGS 4 + Xperia Z ROM. Hope it works.
I will try to improve my self step by step.
Thank you! :highfive:
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There are 2 main kind of roms - based on samsung sources and based on aosp sources (cyanogenmod). They're not compatible with each other, that means kernels, mods, themes etc.
Most AOSP Roms have 4.2.2 Android while Sammy have 4.1.2.
JustArchi said:
There are 2 main kind of roms - based on samsung sources and based on aosp sources (cyanogenmod). They're not compatible with each other, that means kernels, mods, themes etc.
Most AOSP Roms have 4.2.2 Android while Sammy have 4.1.2.
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After few affords with help, i found that my S3's ASV version is 06. I am happy now and continue to learn more about tweak for performance and battery. Thanks pro!

Cyanogenmod 10.1 DNA discussion thread

As stated in the cm 10.1 dev thread lets keep the general CM discussions here instead of cluttering the dev thread.
Great idea - now we can have all the misguided, misinformed speculation we want as to what hurdles have yet to be cleared before the DNA gets official CM nightly support
jk
Haha, exactly.
Actually, I think efforts might soon be underway to port straight AOSP as well I hope what I've heard (I can't give details, so please don't ask) comes to fruition.
That'd be great. I've been trying to learn more about programming and the build system so I can start helping out with some of it. I've setup ubuntu and sync and build cm every couple of days and I've been messing with building aokp since its based on cm.
AOKP, PA, PAC ROMs me want
Also some AOSP kernels as well
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I made a few changes and aokp started to build but I came across an error and haven't had time to look into it. If I get it built I'll try to learn some more about git and upload the source
skynet11 said:
Actually, I think efforts might soon be underway to port straight AOSP as well I hope what I've heard (I can't give details, so please don't ask) comes to fruition.
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Why pure aosp as opposed to CM?
123421342 said:
Why pure aosp as opposed to CM?
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Because a lot of popular ROMs out there are based on AOSP rather than on CM. Besides, there's always room for both right?
I'd love to try pure AOSP. I've always had HTC devices so I never got the pure Android experience.
123421342 said:
Why pure aosp as opposed to CM?
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because I want android and not all the stuff that comes with CM, if I want themes and mods ill do them myself
Does anyone have any resources that break down the build process?
I'm pretty excited for the 10.1 rom to become a daily driver. Once it's complete I hope to see possible other roms that are desensed... I'm sick of sense! I want some unadulterated android (or close to it)!
why would you want an aosp kernel? how are they better?
atishpatel2012 said:
why would you want an aosp kernel? how are they better?
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Sense kernels won't work on aosp and the stock one they included in CM can't be overclocked or undervolted.
Nowak4G said:
Sense kernels won't work on aosp and the stock one they included in CM can't be overclocked or undervolted.
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The kernel we are using right now is our stock kernel with cm commits. It doesn't include overclock or any other features because they could cause more bugs. Better to work all the bugs out of cm before you start doing things that could introduce more. Cplamer has already said that he has run a custom kernel with cm on his DNA so it is definitely going to happen. Just have to wait or build your own kernel unfortunately.
amathophobia said:
The kernel we are using right now is our stock kernel with cm commits. It doesn't include overclock or any other features because they could cause more bugs. Better to work all the bugs out of cm before you start doing things that could introduce more. Cplamer has already said that he has run a custom kernel with cm on his DNA so it is definitely going to happen. Just have to wait or build your own kernel unfortunately.
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The other reason is because they're making so many changes to cm right now to get it working that a new kernel would have to be released for every update. I believe T1gartist has been running cm oc'd with a custom kernel as well
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If you have the source it's not hard to add overclocking.
I'm not a dev or anything but I built AOKP
TheDanimal said:
I'm not a dev or anything but I built AOKP
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Can u upload the build.
I wud like to test it out.
What all features are working ? Are all" Whats Working" features CM10.1 working for it ?
Sorry for asking all these questions.
BTW, u should create a new thread in Orig. Android Dev. with AOKP build :victory:

[Q] CyanogenMod 11 or MiuiV5?

People who tried both rom's...
which one is the best?
And Miuiv5 get update to android version as cm?
eBay's said:
People who tried both rom's...
which one is the best?
And Miuiv5 get update to android version as cm?
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Well you should post this under the q&a thread. Well Miuiv5 is good and its based on sammys 4.1.2 and its not going to be update to newer android version unless someone make it based on cm. Cm is good to and cm10.2 is almost as stable as stock 4.1.2 if even. In general both roms are good if you like never android version and fast updates (everyday sinse Miui is updated every friday) go for cm but if you like interface and custominization go for Miui
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turboblaz said:
Well you should post this under the q&a thread. Well Miuiv5 is good and its based on sammys 4.1.2 and its not going to be update to newer android version unless someone make it based on cm. Cm is good to and cm10.2 is almost as stable as stock 4.1.2 if even. In general both roms are good if you like never android version and fast updates (everyday sinse Miui is updated every friday) go for cm but if you like interface and custominization go for Miui
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I like newer version of android and also custominzation... too bad they wont make those amazing thing in one rom.
Seriously? 4.1.2? i thought its at least 4.4
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You can handle with 4.1.2 in your miui?
eBay's said:
I like newer version of android and also custominzation... too bad they wont make those amazing thing in one rom.
Seriously? 4.1.2? i thought its at least 4.4
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You can handle with 4.1.2 in your miui?
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Well i kinda handle it. Btw there is a lot of custominization roms which are based or forked from cm sources lik e slimbean or cyanfox or omni rom etc.... you can try them if you want it though
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Best rom threads are not allowed. Please search and read and decide for yourself
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CM 7.2 i717

Just out curiosity. Would it be possible to build a CM 7.2 ROM for the i717? And would it be easy/difficult? I have never actually built a ROM before.
Sloogle_Flugelmann said:
Just out curiosity. Would it be possible to build a CM 7.2 ROM for the i717? And would it be easy/difficult? I have never actually built a ROM before.
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I would start by searching the forums for tutorials in building for quincyatt. There are some good ones in here.
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