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Hey guys,
Looking to buy an Atrix. A couple quick and noob questions.
1) Where should I buy it from? I have an upgrade on AT&T in August, but from all indications it seems the Atrix is pretty underpriced versus things like the SGII and stuff. Go ebay? Any better choices online for a barely used Atrix?
2) Bootloader. I know it is about to be unlocked, and I saw something about maybe an international unlock already available. You guys think there will be plenty of devs for the phone once we get around to getting it unlocked? I don't want a phone as big as the SGII anyways.
From there, do you guys think its a smart idea to get an Atrix when I have an upgrade available soon? My thinking is getting the Atrix off contract, selling my Captivate, then around November or so when a new batch of phones come out on 4G LTE possibly getting one of those. Maybe the Nexus Prime or something by then? What do you guys think?
I can try and opinate on 2 and 3
2 - There already seems to be a lot of devs involved. Not only cyanogen mod is being ported, there are already a list of ROMs on development. And the bootloader is already unlockeable here on this forum
3 - The Atrix may take some time to take off and reach its full potential, it's one of those phones that needs that extra effort from buyers to make it shine. If you're aiming for a buy in november, it's probably best to just wait for the next batch of phones. I bought the atrix cause I plan to keep it for around 2 yrs.
I'm about to buy an atrix too, and I'm getting it from Craigslist for 280 dollars. I'm saving my upgrade for later.
That's the best way to go.
Viamonte said:
I can try and opinate on 2 and 3
2 - There already seems to be a lot of devs involved. Not only cyanogen mod is being ported, there are already a list of ROMs on development. And the bootloader is already unlockeable here on this forum
3 - The Atrix may take some time to take off and reach its full potential, it's one of those phones that needs that extra effort from buyers to make it shine. If you're aiming for a buy in november, it's probably best to just wait for the next batch of phones. I bought the atrix cause I plan to keep it for around 2 yrs.
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Well here is what I'm thinking:
I can sell the Captivate for ~200, what its going for on Ebay. That puts my Atrix cost down to $100 total pretty much. Then come November, I'm hoping I could resell it for like $200 maybe? Basically would put me at $-100 total cost for the phone, and I'll put the $100 towards my upgrade. So I definitely don't think its a problem to buy it now if its the phone I decided on, because the value seems so low that it isn't going to depreciate as fast as say the SGII from now until it becomes available and such
Anyone else say Craigslist > Ebay for buying the phone? I'm thinking that may be the case as well if prices are that cheap usually
Well I'm going Craigslist because you meet in person, in public, and pop in your sim card to test the device. If it works right then make the transaction.
EBay just seems way to risky to me.
The dev list is growing as we speak! There have been two roms released in the passed two days, both from new devs. Im optimistic. Plus, on cm7 stats, there are 15 devs running cm7 on ATRIX, which makes me optimistic for a future cm7 release. Hope this helps! Tis a great phone.
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I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket with AT&T. I also have an Acer Iconia A500 10" tablet. Both are rooted running custom ROMS. The tablet is actually running a leaked ICS. I have been proposed this offer. A guy has an upgrade available. He wants to buy me a brand new white galaxy note in exchange for these two devices.
If it were you would you accept the trade?
No. LOL he should give you cash, you can decide how much depending on condition of your phone and tablet. Wait a few and watch Note's price drop.
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Skyrocket eBay average sold* price for used phone in perfect condition: $400.00
Iconia A500 eBay average sold* price for used tablet in perfect condition: $300.00
SOURCE.
That is $700 and for that you can get a brand new I7000. That guy would only have to spend $300 on a white note and take a $400 profit off you.
*"Average sold" means the average price for that specific item that actually SOLD. Not the price they are listed for sale.
But you cant calculate it at 300 he is also giving up his upgrade. You have to look at the average sale price of the Galaxy note and its close to 700.
I did actually consider selling both the items and turning around and buying one myself but then I go through the hassle and time of selling them, hoping that I get enough out of them. I also go without a phone in between the time the skyrocket sells and I get the note because it is my only phone.
I am not eligible for an upgrade at the moment so I would pay that $700 price tag. Yes, he may only pay $300 but he wins by getting both devices and saving some money on the purchase and I win by getting the note without the trouble of having to sell both devices and hoping I get enough.
The question I come down to is if the Note is a good enough phone to ditch the skyrocket whose only advantage over the note is that it has NFC and the tablet, which I hardly use because I have a laptop and an iPad, for the note that has the larger screen.
The main things I use my phone for are as a GPS navigator, a web browser, and a camera. The larger screen would seem to be better suited for all of that. I would hope that posting this in the Galaxy Note section you would have some insight as to the performance of the device as well as the customization available (ROMs, Kernels, etc). I've owned the devices I'm giving up, I haven't owned the Note. Just looking for pros and cons and personal opinions. No need for comments like "He's ripping you off" or what not. Just explain why you think he is.
Thanks guys!
I would take the trade. Trying to sell stuff on craigslist or eBay is such a pain. But that is me and I was desperate for the note. I had my skyrocket + $200 cash on my end on craigslist looking for a trade. So if you are impatient and don't mind taking a little hit go for it. The note is an amazing device. I also have an iconia and I have not used it in a week.
However if you are asking here that would indicate some trepidation on your behalf. Trust your gut.
I would take the trade + $50-$100 cash back from the guy who has the Galaxy Note
if it were me....i would not do it.
he is winning either way you look at it. the Rocket is a great device in its own right......plus a tablet?
sell one or both and see where it leaves you. at&t has the note 649 right. if anything trade the rocket to him plus a little cash and keep the tab or vise versa
thats my OP
700? There's one in marketplace right now for 550 shipped. They're going to be on the market for about that much for awhile..your choice ...easy deal for trade or sell your devices for what they're worth and pocket 150.
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I came from the Skyrocket and dont regret it at all. Probably biggest decision is how much will you miss a full tablet. I would say he is making out a little ahead and may be able to talk him into 50 dollars or so but if its what you really want its worth it IMHO.
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The question I come down to is if the Note is a good enough phone to ditch the skyrocket whose only advantage over the note is that it has NFC and the tablet said:
The Note has NFC
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If you live near me, I'll gladly trade you my Note for what you're offering.
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I came from the Skyrocket and dont regret it at all. Probably biggest decision is how much will you miss a full tablet. I would say he is making out a little ahead and may be able to talk him into 50 dollars or so but if its what you really want its worth it IMHO.
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He still has an iPad, and from what he says he uses his devices for, the iPad more than fulfills the 'full tablet' requirement. No, it isn't an android tablet, but the iPad still surfs the web well, apart from flash.
i would tell him the skyrocket or the acer iconia and $100 for his Galaxy note - if he says no then tell him to go F** himself.
Good luck
I more or less did this exact thing, since I wasn't eligible for an upgrade on the Note. I sold my SR and a Toshiba Thrive on ebay for about $680. But then you take into account Ebay fees and then Paypal fees and you're out almost $100. So the offer is not terrible really, if you wanted a Note anyways.
My Samsung Galaxy Note™ is smarter than your Honor Student.
Uncle Irish said:
If you live near me, I'll gladly trade you my Note for what you're offering.
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I'm in Indianapolis
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I'm in Indianapolis
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Too much driving from Florida.
I wasn't serious anyway. You'll end up losing out on the deal if you trade with the guy. Try to sell them separately and you'll come out even. The Skyrocket should get you $300 on Craigslist easy. That alone should be enough to pick up the Note from him and you get to keep the rocket and the tab
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Too much driving from Florida.
I wasn't serious anyway. You'll end up losing out on the deal if you trade with the guy. Try to sell them separately and you'll come out even. The Skyrocket should get you $300 on Craigslist easy. That alone should be enough to pick up the Note from him and you get to keep the rocket and the tab
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I assumed as much Just figured I'd call your bluff.
After looking around craigslist and ebay I could probably break even with enough money to buy the note but then I go through the hassle of selling them and then being without a phone if the phone happens to sell before the tablet and I don't have the money for the note yet.
It basically comes down to whether or not I really want the note. I've been to AT&T twice to play with it and like the phone but that one wasn't rooted, OCed, or running a custom ROM. I know it has to be faster than the one they have on the floor.
So far I've seen comments that people have switched from the skyrocket to the note and don't regret it. I'd be curious if there is anyone who does?
I had two skyrockets with in a two week period and both developed problems and were returned to AT&T, I told them to keep the skyrocket and I would pay the difference for the white note and I think that the Note is a much better phone than the skyrocket!!! It is a great phone and a even better tablet, I have not touched mt Galaxy tab since I got my note.
I have a deal pending on my SR for $350 shipped and the Iconia 16gb A500 will probably get you $250 so that's $600 from you. If you pay the paypal fee and shipping like I am, I'm only really getting about $310 for the SR. A NIB Note is getting about $550 so it's really more a question of...Do you feel like you are losing out or getting what you want? I have the Transformer Prime running CM9 with a case and I hardly use it. My phone is what I spend most of my time on.
Hello fellow noters
I recently out of decided to sell my galaxy note to get the nexus 4 ( to use on simple mobile) and to my dismay the g-note i717 has a really really low resale value. From what I have seen on ebay and craigslist the average cost for a i717 is around the low 300s, which for me is bad, Very bad. If you take into account the money that paypal and ebay take for the commission of the sale you are left with 250 something. This probably has to do with the release of the note2 only 6 months later than the original note.
I'm not complaining because this is still a great device but the loss of value took me by surprise, but I will definitely think twice before getting another Samsung device close to its release date.
In conclusion my friends I would advice you that if you want a Samsung device wait 4-6 months and buy it out of contract for 1/2 the price and if you are planning on reselling it later take a deep breath before looking for the resale values.
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
Non-Removeable Battery
Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
RaiderWill said:
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
Non-Removeable Battery
Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
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I see it as a huge upgrade because
I don't need more than 16GB of storage because I don't put 50000 songs on my phone when I don't listen to them all anyways.
I don't really need to remove the battery ever, and it has better battery life than my note which is horribly awful.
It has android 4.2 official from the get go, and will get future android updates a week or so after announcement. Current note doesn't have official 4.1 yet, and 4.2 is out! And CM10 is still not stable. I'm so done waiting 6 months for an android update, especially with how awesome the changes have become.
Screen is a bit smaller yes, but it's higher PPI.
2GB of RAM is very necessary for anyone who is a power user. I constantly have to reload apps.
Quad core krait is awesome and should never lag. note1 lags often.
It doesn't have LTE which does actually suck but will be better for battery life and HSPA 42 in Canada is pretty good
And it's $350!
You could argue the Note2 is a better phone than the nexus4 and in many ways it is, but I still think getting android updates is more important for me. And the price is great.
I'll be selling my note1 for $300 next week. It's lower than I'd like but allows me to upgrade to the nexus4 for very cheap!
Sound Like They're Getting Your Money.
I"ll Keep My Note *1* And My $30.00 A Month T-Mo Plan And Jamie's ParanoidAndroid JellyBean Rom All Day Long Over A Phone That Won't Allow Me To Expand My Memory Forcing Me To "The Cloud" And Not Even Allowing Me Access To My Phone's Battery Making Me A *Slave* To A Charging Outlet...
Enjoy Your Nexus 4....
The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
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The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
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I will only spend 100 for my new Note2
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I bought my og note when att was doing their $50 refurb note upgrade deal. Mines legit very rarely reboots even at 1836mhz . I'm gonna wait till something better is available for another deal like that. Then you don't have to trip on ever losing money.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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I haven't sold it yet and I'm not complaining, I love this thing. I don't really mind if the nexus loses value because it only costs 350$, but that is another topic.
the Note does have a low resale value if you take in to account that it used to cost around 700$ and now you have to negotiate with someone to barely get half of your investment. Samsung products do devaluate quite fast because they flood the market with their phones, release new version every 6 months and they give retailers the option to sell the phone at the price they want. I got an S3 four months ago for 615 and I went to the same store today and saw it for 500. There is nothing bad with that, if you use it to your advantage and wait a while to get a great product for 2/3 of the its first retail price.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
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How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
from a galaxy far far away....
The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
I've never seen a phone hold value...Technology is constanly upgraded and replacing other models every month..Just the way it is..Computers are worth half as less in about 3 months as well...
Ello mate!
Honestly if you want to sell your note then that's perfectly fine. You don't need to justify your decision to sell to the people on this forum because what is it to them if you sell or keep? Lol I don't know why people get butt hurt over it when it has nothing to do with them. Will they be using the phone or is it for you? Also don't let people's opinions discourage you. The nexus 4 is awesome and I want to get one as well....note is great but i have decided it's just too big for me. I am a very active person and it is actually getting in the way rather than simplifying my life. Can't go running with it. Can't take it to the gym..nope! Can't walk around the gym with the note in my gym shorts lol. I don't want to shell out additional money for another mp3 player.
I agree with you on the resale value. I put mine up on Craigslist for 430 and got so many low ball offers it's ridiculous. I am just going to keep it now ... meh.
I am buying a Note II this week, but only because my corp plan lets me it it for $200. The Spousal Unit would never allow a $750 + tax phone purchase in this house.
If I get $300 for the Note I then I am happy, since it lets me purchase the next upgrade for next to nothing.
That said, I am thinking of holding on to the Note I until December when the official JB comes out. The Note I does lag on stock rom a bit (never tried the custom JB ones), and I want to be able to sell it to non-XDA folks with full S-pen support. I am thinking that the Note I stock experience will be much better in December, and that if I show it to a couple of people I know they will be happier with it then. If an offer comes by before then, I'll let it go at that time I suppose.
My brother just sold his Note for $300 to a guy in Sudbury. He was a bit disappointed as well.
I told him it's a niche phone with low demand in a small market.
#FirstWorldProblems
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How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
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The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
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Read the important part in red which you missed. If you have ONE LINE, non-contract makes sense in some cases. If you have more than one, nope.
As for the OP's whinge, who cares, everything that isn't a "durable product" devalues fast, think about how many THOUSANDS your car devalues the second it's "used".
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that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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100% true! the nexus 4 will be worth nothing as Google drops its price, and I sold one of my skyrockets for 350 on Craig's list so I'd sell my note 1 for $400 up, and I'm in Fl too. Its all about the condition of the phone. If your note is mint like mine you'll sell it for $400 cause people will rather pay $400 for perfect condition than $300 for some old scratched up junk. In 6 mo. Your $350 nexus will be worth $199 or less cause its used. How's that for devaluation.
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All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
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Well that and Apple sells all their hardware at a high margin keeping the prices high at retail.
I love my LG G3. Love that I have it rooted with custom ROM. It is being kept alive because of this. I recently looked into upgrading (I am with Sprint) and looking at newer models of phones, but I am finding that there are no root solutions/ unlocking bootloaders for the newer models. Now I know all the international phones have some way to root them, but I live in the US and use Sprint. Does anyone think that rooting may become a thing of the past? I read that it is getting way more difficult to root. What does everyone else think?
Get a Nexus. I had the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 then figured I'd give the LG G3 a try and am disappointed. All I do is end up flashing an AOSP ROM anyway.
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How do the newer Nexus phones work with Sprint? Are there specific models you need to get to work with Sprint? Does Sprint WiFi calling work with them?
Currently under family contract with Sprint, so keep buying phones under contract since we are paying for it anyway. I think that is going away even for those of us grandfathered in with older contracts. I will definitely consider Nexus to replace my G3 if I can't get cheap G5 or HTC 10 when I go in.
Best Buy has the G5 for $1 with a 2-year extension. Sale ended, disregard. The same drama surrounding root and BL unlock as we went through with the G3 launch is currently playing out again with people offering bounties and getting in fights and taking their balls and going home. Gave me a lot of bad flashbacks. There are partial methods that have been released and then recalled, for valid reasons, but there are lots of jerks that are trying to bait the devs into releasing something... It's a clusterjam.
The HTC 10 is already BL unlocked via Sunshine (paid app) and if it wasn't $200 I'd already have one. If the G5 gets rooted and I can still get it for $1 I'll go that way. Now that it's back up to $149 I see no benefit to the G5. I got one for my wife and it's nice but if there's no public root method by the time I'm shopping I won't give it a second glance. I know this is off-topic, so sorry.
Rooting is a whole new game now with MM and the encryption on different partitions, and phone makers are less likely to make easy BL unlocks now that Android Pay is a thing.
So, rooting is not necessarily ending, but custom ROMs and recoveries (requires BL unlock) are more likely to fall by the wayside. Time will tell. It's a tenuous game with devs on edge, lay users demanding immediate results, and tempers and egos running hot on all sides. Maybe Pangu will open an Android division and shift the conversation.
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Best Buy has the G5 for $1 with a 2-year extension. Sale ended, disregard. The same drama surrounding root and BL unlock as we went through with the G3 launch is currently playing out again with people offering bounties and getting in fights and taking their balls and going home. Gave me a lot of bad flashbacks. There are partial methods that have been released and then recalled, for valid reasons, but there are lots of jerks that are trying to bait the devs into releasing something... It's a clusterjam.
The HTC 10 is already BL unlocked via Sunshine (paid app) and if it wasn't $200 I'd already have one. If the G5 gets rooted and I can still get it for $1 I'll go that way. Now that it's back up to $149 I see no benefit to the G5. I got one for my wife and it's nice but if there's no public root method by the time I'm shopping I won't give it a second glance. I know this is off-topic, so sorry.
Rooting is a whole new game now with MM and the encryption on different partitions, and phone makers are less likely to make easy BL unlocks now that Android Pay is a thing.
So, rooting is not necessarily ending, but custom ROMs and recoveries (requires BL unlock) are more likely to fall by the wayside. Time will tell. It's a tenuous game with devs on edge, lay users demanding immediate results, and tempers and egos running hot on all sides. Maybe Pangu will open an Android division and shift the conversation.
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Would the HTC 10 work with sprint?
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Would the HTC 10 work with sprint?
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Yes, if you get a Sprint variant. They're $199 w/ 2-year extension. Hoping a deal pops up sometime to cover low sales like that last one for the G5 did at BB. Unlocked phone should also work.
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Yes, if you get a Sprint variant. They're $199 w/ 2-year extension. Hoping a deal pops up sometime to cover low sales like that last one for the G5 did at BB. Unlocked phone should also work.
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I've been a customer since 1993 with sprint, and I am NOT eligible for the "$199 w/ 2-year extension." Nice....
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I've been a customer since 1993 with sprint, and I am NOT eligible for the "$199 w/ 2-year extension." Nice....
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Why not? I thought that was always an option unless you were not through your last 2-year extension. But I also know they do crazy things with customers, even long-term.
i'm hoping Sprint give Boost better phones .-. till then i'm staying with my G3
I have a Sprint Galaxy Note 4 that I have cracked the screen on. I wish to fix this, however, the Note 4 displays are like $150+. You can buy the glass separately for like $10 but then you have to heat the edge up to 190F to separate it from the digitizer. Not sure how I feel about that...I might try it though, but if I wreck the phone then I will have to get something new (to me) regardless. Plus the Sprint Note 4 ROM support is pretty bad, there's really only 1 ROM that is receiving regular updates and it runs like crap on my phone. On the flip side I am still paying for this stupid Note 4, at least I got from Sprint for $360 rather than the original $720. So I'm going to have to pay it off regardless.
---or---
LG G3s are now under $150 on eBay, brand spanking new. I had an LG G2 before and I LOVED LOVED LOVED it. I was browsing the Sprint LG G3 Android Development folders and it seems like there's still pretty good ROM support for the G3. I could get an LG G3 and just set my Note aside. I would be THRILLED to have buttons on the back again, I really miss that.
OR
I could also do something completely different like a Moto G4 plus but it's more, like $249.
SO
How long are you guys planning on hanging on to your G3's? The size of the audience can drive ROM development, in my experience.
Is the LG G4 really that significant of an upgrade? What about the G5?
What would you do if you were in my shoes? Keep in mind I'm cheap.