My phone has developed a digitizer problem in that a vertical strip (approx 15mm) is completely unresponsive, and sometimes the screen goes a bit haywire (continously zooms in when web browsing or in a document). Have tried resetting the phone, and reflashing the ROM, but the problem persists.
Does anyone have any experience when with regards to replacing the digitizer, and would like to share their experiences? I.e. Is there anything which I should be made aware of, such as specific rookie errors? Have looked up some Youtube videos, so I think I'm fairly clued up, but thought I'd call in on the experts before I take the plunge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591399
check this thread
not recommend replace digitizer at this moment it cast too many $$$, Asus CES2014 announce $99 smart phone.
thecjan said:
not recommend replace digitizer at this moment it cast too many $$$, Asus CES2014 announce $99 smart phone.
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They look nice the zenfone that is will have to buy a sd card for it down side no internal memory or atleast none you can use. besides that actually looks very nice. wonder how long before you can buy one right now it says ask dealer about availability so im guessing 3 to 6 months. digitizer $15.00 and then he can sell phone for $50 to $75 dollars if he chooses to later once it finally hits stores
Yeah, but with sd cards being inexpensive (I just got a 8gb class 4 microsd for $50, about U$S10) it isn't really a downside. If you maage to get an replacement for the digitizer, buy it. as overboard says, you can sell the phone at a higher price if you decide to buy another.
OP, I had the same problem, I warn you, once you detach the digitizer from the phone, before you actually remove it, dettach the lcd also, that way, when you must remove the flex and pass it through, the gap will be larger and you wont have to bend the flex, avoiding the risk of damaging it. Digitizer and lcd are meant to be extracted together. Also, be very careful when you detach the digitizer, as dointg it hard can remove the glue strips and let the dust enter the screen. that's what happened to mine, glue strips got broken at the bottom corners, and now the capacitive buttons' light pass thru it, to the screen and dust enters and I can't see sh*t
Thanks guys. From what I've read, most people appear to experience problems either during or after the upgrade, so even though a replacement digitizer should only set me back £15, it could be more hassle that it's worth...
This could be a good opportunity to upgrade
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I can't find any info on this, but it looks like it could be tricky to replace. I cracked my glass by dropping it onto stone, still works OK. You can pick up digitisers pretty cheap on ebay (£20 UK) but does anyone know how to replace? I read that they can be glued to the LCD?
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Google for the fixit website, if someone has done it there will be a tutorial, or you could follow the guide on here to upgrade your sd card....only because you have to take the phone fully apart. You need to check if the lcd is glued or like the iphone 4 resin. If they are a sealed unit you'd be better off getting the lcd/digitizer combo on ebay. trying to separate an lcd from the digitizer is asking for trouble imho.
I have ordered a digitiser, really hope the digitiser is not glued to the LCD, there is a big price difference. I'll let you know how I get on.
I bought a Mozart with wrecked digitizer and also want to repair it. The digitizer is on its way, so in a week i could tell you how difficult or maybe easy it is.
If you are faster, please post your experience.
I found this thread on xda.cn, and it seems that the lcd isnt glued on the digitizer, so lets hope so
hxxp://xxx.xda.cn/newshow.php?snid=2167
EDIT: sorry cantpost links, so must change the x's to t's and w's
I have got my digitiser now, looks brand new. Just need to find the time to replace, might upgrade the SD card at the same time.
Done
I did this with Andy's guide to help: http://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpres...-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/#comment-225
I used this guide to replace my digitiser (the glass) which I smashed. The good news is that the digitiser is not stuck to the LCD at all. I just bought a grade A digitiser off ebay for £20 which was pretty much perfect - glass was perfect with a couple of small marks on the back case, but basically like new.
There were a couple of differences to this guide:
- Had to replace a speaker type thing at the top of the digitiser that was not present on the new one. Came off quite easily, just stuck in.
- Had to remove the USB port of the old case back (if you are replacing that too) but that was just a couple of screws
- You dont have to split the PCB off if doing this, you just take off the black clips to take it apart and then remove the orange ribbon cable, it is a little tricky to get the new one in but OK.
I now have a phone as good as new, I didn't replace the SD at the same time but probably will do at some point when I can stand loosing all my data.
Found time today to replace the digitizer. I also used Andy's videos for instruction. And it's really not that hard. Pretty easy for someones first mobile phone repair.
Well done, I would add for anyone else needing to do this, be very careful not to touch the inside of the digitiser or the LCD when you have it apart! Also have a glasses cloth handy for removing any dust particles just before you put it back together.
I do have one strange thing however - before I had intermittent issues where I could not slide the screen up when locked for 10 seconds or so. No I have a slightly different issue when unlocking - it doesn't always let me press on the right hand 3 numbers on the PIN screen! So it seems the unlocking issue some people have is due to a hardware issue. My digitiser was second hand so I might ask for a replacement, but I can change my pin so that it is not an issue.
My Mozart touch-screen hardly works at all plus my wife's Mozart has a cracked digitizer glass (still working fine).
So silly me I took the plunge and ordered three cheap replacement digitizers via eBay (from Hong Hong). They arrived today and all are s**t useless.
When I opened the box I smelt the rat when I spied the HTC logo on each was blanked out on the outside of the plastic zip-lock bags (with what looked like black felt pen), plus each glass has minor blemishes/scratches. Comparing each with the digitizers I removed from my and my wife's phones, they have a different design of ribbon cable conductor layout plus there are indications the plastic moulding isn't as well finished in a couple of places. Either these are factory rejects or knock-off copies. Lesson learnt :-(
Anyway, I now need to buy genuine HTC parts.
Any pointers toward reliable sources appreciated, thanks.
KJ
I have bought some off ebay. The problem is that these are almost always from returned Mozart's which may well have been returned due to non responsive screens, which seems to be a very common problem.
I have had 2 off the same chap now, one is OK but not perfect, the other one didnt work at all.
I would just keep returning them until you get one that works.
Sometimes you will find new combined digitiser/LCD's on ebay too, these would be a better bet but cost more.
Can someone who as changed a screen on this phone using Andys guide, please tell me how easy or hard it was, and how long does it take??
And would be grateful if someone could give me a link to the correct digitizer for this phone....
I am in the UK and have been qouted 50 pounds at a phone shop for the to supply and fit screen...
Did you see my post?
There were a couple of differences to this (Andy's) guide:
- Had to replace a speaker type thing at the top of the digitiser that was not present on the new one. Came off quite easily, just stuck in.
- Had to remove the USB port of the old case back (if you are replacing that too) but that was just a couple of screws
- You dont have to split the PCB off if doing this, you just take off the black clips to take it apart and then remove the orange ribbon cable, it is a little tricky to get the new one in but OK.
The most tricky thing for me was getting all the dust off the LCD and the digitsier, as soon as you get it apart things start sticking to it like crazy. Have a clean glasses cloth around.
It takes about an hour on your first go. The main thing is to get the orange ribbon cablle in fully, it can be tricky - you need to get a good grip on it (fold it a little) and push it home quite hard, otherwise you get it all back together and find it doesn't work.
I have had 2 dodgy screens off ebay, £50 sounds OK if it is a brand new original HTC screen.
Or just search for 'htc mozart digitiser' on ebayt there are loads.
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I have bought some off ebay. The problem is that these are almost always from returned Mozart's which may well have been returned due to non responsive screens, which seems to be a very common problem.
I have had 2 off the same chap now, one is OK but not perfect, the other one didnt work at all.
I would just keep returning them until you get one that works.
Sometimes you will find new combined digitiser/LCD's on ebay too, these would be a better bet but cost more.
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Thank you for that. A close look at the ones I bought from china I'm sure now are removed from phones with faulty digitizers, then repackaged as new. One of the three had significant dust and dirt on the inside of the digitiser screen. I've requested a refund via PalPal disputes.
I've ordered some digitizers from ecell in the UK. I'm led to believe by them that these are genuine HTC factory supplied spares.
KJ
I just replaced my 4th screen (1 broke, 2 dodgy).
This one is perfect - as new condition and works perfectly, my last one was not responsive in some situations e.g. lock screen.
This is the one I got (UK)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130498971267?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Of course, your mileage may vary - some are probably good, some not. Replace it, if it doesn't work ask for another, etc.
My new digitizers arrived today from the uk. Horray they are genuine HTC spare parts properly packaged. The downside is they don't include the frame the glass sit in and is adhered to.
So I watched the official HTC Mozart disassembly video on youtube to see how to remove the existing digitizer glass from the frame - got it apart ok after heating the unit to soften the adhesives but it didn't come away entirely cleanly i.e some of the adhesive foam broke away and was left on the underside of the glass.
So... check on eBay and found sellers selling refurbished screen frames ready for a new glass to be attached.
Will update on progress once they arrive.
KJ
just ordered my digitiser today... wish me luck...lol
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just ordered my digitiser today... wish me luck...lol
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Well I am now buzzing... have just changed my screen at it works perfect.....
£50 they wanted at the shop...it cost me £13....
Just to let you know how easy this is to do........If I can do it, anyone can..
Did anyone find a reliable supply in the end? I just cracked my digitiser so looking to replace it...
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Also, how much have others paid? Don't want to be ripped off for some sub-standard part.
Hello everybody,
I m trying to replace the digitiser of a HTC Mozart too.
It is really easy to do, even the part where you have to take off the digitiser from the plastic frame.
But I have an issue, it is the second digitiser I am using ( from the same ebay shop ) and the digitiser is working inverted vertically! Really strange but it is like that.
As the mobile phone is started up, when I push on a left buton, it push on a right button ! On the key board, when I press on "P" it press on "A" ( i m using an Azerty layout, I assume it should be "Q" on your layout ).
It is really anyoing of course.
It is the second screen I received from the Ebay shop and same issue, I don't think the problem come from my side, but I just want to ask to you all if somebody have an idea or the same issue once.
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Hello everybody,
I m trying to replace the digitiser of a HTC Mozart too.
It is really easy to do, even the part where you have to take off the digitiser from the plastic frame.
But I have an issue, it is the second digitiser I am using ( from the same ebay shop ) and the digitiser is working inverted vertically! Really strange but it is like that.
As the mobile phone is started up, when I push on a left buton, it push on a right button ! On the key board, when I press on "P" it press on "A" ( i m using an Azerty layout, I assume it should be "Q" on your layout ).
It is really anyoing of course.
It is the second screen I received from the Ebay shop and same issue, I don't think the problem come from my side, but I just want to ask to you all if somebody have an idea or the same issue once.
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Mate, I had the same problem. However it seems no one was able to help me either.
I also purchased a digitizer from Ebay for my Mozart - the exact same inverted issue occurred with me. I wasn't able to find a solution.
I'm in Australia with a T8697 model. The digitizer I received from Ebay had a circle around the windows button at the bottom - This was not on my original screen.
In the end, I purchased a digitizer from an Australian business. Cost double the Ebay digitizer did, so I hope it works... Haven't received it yet, but I'll let you know when I put it in.
What model Mozart do you own?
i have a dell streak 5 and i droppedd it off my bed, the lcd is broke in the top corner and its leaked.
phone is unlocked running longhorn 2.01 and works perfect, no glass damage, just the lcd, and i cant be bothered, it has also been modified with an internal 8gig card instead of 2gig.
My question is, i dont want to pay to replace the lcd and im not bothered, upgraded to a galaxy s2, so, in its current working condition, unlocked and just a broken lcd, HOW MUCH is a fair price to sell it for for anyone that wants to repair it?????
And if anyone is interested, please message me, i just want rid of it now.
Thanks guys...
Interested, where you located and how much you asking?, am searching for replacement lcd cost now, so will need to factor in shipping cos funds are limited here (living in Singapore)... i have a wildfire s i am trying to s-off (hardware only) so am weighing up the cost of an xtc clip to s-off against price of your dell streak, i've seen them around, big buggers yeah, but i heard very reliable, can you advise any downsides to owning one that you have found (apart from breaking it of course lol).
Regards
Zill
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Interested, where you located and how much you asking?, am searching for replacement lcd cost now, so will need to factor in shipping cos funds are limited here (living in Singapore)... i have a wildfire s i am trying to s-off (hardware only) so am weighing up the cost of an xtc clip to s-off against price of your dell streak, i've seen them around, big buggers yeah, but i heard very reliable, can you advise any downsides to owning one that you have found (apart from breaking it of course lol).
Regards
Zill
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hello and thanks for your reply.
Dirst of all, the streak is an unbelievable piece of kit, it is so moddable its hard to believe, some manufacturers have their phones so locked down its hard to do anything with them, the streak is easy, its literally a 2 minute job to flash a firmware, and sooooooooo easy, the best thing about the streak is that its practically impossible to brick it, unless the user does something really stoopid like flashing a wrong firmware, ie, galaxy ace gingerbread onto the streak lmao, believe it or not, it happens.
The next best thing is that a tiny piece of plastic hidden behind the battery door out of sight has been removed, allowing access to the streaks internal mem which is a micro sd card, this allowed me to replace the internal 2 gig memory with an 8gig class 6 memory card, it can take a class 10, although im not sure if it will take a 16gig internally, so having the 8gig in there gives you about 6.5 gig internal storage for downloads, thus doing away with the need to keep moving stuff to the external sd card, its great.
It is also very fast, even though it only has a 1 gig processor the speed and graphics capability is awesome, easily outpacing a lot of more up to date phones, battery life is good, i got 10 hours constant use of surfing, texting, calling.
DOWNSIDE, only 1, the lcds are easily breakable, i dropped mine when it wasnt in its protective case, off my bed onto the carpeted floor, that was enough to break the screen lol.
The lcds are replaceable, they can be purchased at a reliable source in the uk for about £25 to £30, then you just follow the guides and videos that the boys here on XDA have posted, which may i add is the only mobile forum place anyone should use, XDA is the greatest resource online, anything you need is right here.
So the question is price, it is open to offers, i have not set a price on it and of course your location would mean heavy shipping costs, this is why i asked on here if anyone could please advise me of its worth, i have seen them selling on ebay with broken lcd for around £100gb.
I wouldnt be asking that, i would take offers lesser than that as long as the buyer was able to collect or at least compensate for postage.
As it is, it works fine, the phone still works and useable, just where its broke at the top its leaked and blotted out the top right corner where the battery icon is and a couple of mil across the top, the rest of the screen is visible apart from a black thin line.
But my advice to you my friend is buy a streak if you can get one.
pm'ing u...
Cheers
Zill
The LCD is bonded to the glass, so it's very difficult to just replace one without replacing both.
Replacement LCDs are not very expensive on ebay/around though, your biggest issue is in the installation.
The ribbon cables inside are VERY fragile, the most common dis/assembly issue is damaging one of them. Replacement ribbons are not as common as LCDs so you must exercise caution when opening it up.
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The LCD is bonded to the glass, so it's very difficult to just replace one without replacing both.
Replacement LCDs are not very expensive on ebay/around though, your biggest issue is in the installation.
The ribbon cables inside are VERY fragile, the most common dis/assembly issue is damaging one of them. Replacement ribbons are not as common as LCDs so you must exercise caution when opening it up.
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Thx TheManii, will bear that in mind, i've seen a few posts now by users who have trashed those ribbon cables, so will be on my guard when/if the time comes.
Regards
Zill
Hi
I have HTC Touch Pro 2 and today I broke its screen, it have 3 cracks on it now but strange touch screen is completely working without any problems. I also had screen protector on.
Now what do I have to do? Do I have to replace complete screen or I think I will just need to replace the screen digitizer?
Please guide so I can order it from ebay or if you could recommend any store from where I can buy quality products.
Thanks
Yep, been there done that. You have broken the digitizer glass most likely. I suggest that you get a LCD&Digitizer replacement from ebay like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Digitiz...172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c62be3b24
Do some shopping around I only paid ~$12 for my replacement.
Learn from my mistakes and get the set. It is next to impossible to separate the lcd and digitizer. You can usually swap around the various kinds of lcds too. On my sprint tp2 I installed a at&t tilt screen with no issues.
It is not to bad of a job to replace, but the first time is a little nerve racking as you have to do a total tear down. There are videos on the tear down around online. If you live near Seattle WA, I can give you a hand.
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Yep, been there done that. You have broken the digitizer glass most likely. I suggest that you get a LCD&Digitizer replacement from ebay like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Digitiz...172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c62be3b24
Do some shopping around I only paid ~$12 for my replacement.
Learn from my mistakes and get the set. It is next to impossible to separate the lcd and digitizer. You can usually swap around the various kinds of lcds too. On my sprint tp2 I installed a at&t tilt screen with no issues.
It is not to bad of a job to replace, but the first time is a little nerve racking as you have to do a total tear down. There are videos on the tear down around online. If you live near Seattle WA, I can give you a hand.
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Thanks, thats what I thought too, so your personal experience says its impossible to separate LCD and digitizer.. thats too sad as it can save me some money but I wonder why they are selling so many digitizers alone all over internet, and that is just for $8 to $10 with delivery.....
So finally you replaced both LCD+Digitizer or you were you able to replace just the digitizer?
and I live in Pakistan so I could only use help here or on any IM
Impossible, no. You will go through probably a dozen before you get to a point where you could separate them 50-75% of the time successfully. You will spend way less money if you get a screen set, or a phone with a bad board/esn number to pull parts from. There is an adhesive between the lcd and the digitizer (usually along the edge). The lcd does not have a protective glass layer, and it is sooooo easy to pull the lcd coating right off the lcd base it is not funny. You could tear apart the one you have as a free learning experience. It is not going to cost you anything but your time.
Saw this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqNlM68_as
Well if its just that then its a piece of cake for me too, Im a technical person.... So what Im going todo is to open my mobile first before ordering and try to separate the digitizer from the screen and if I was successful then I will just order the digitizer and if I was not then I will order a complete screen set like the one you mentioned in your link.
What is this 1st Generation screen and 2nd generation screen... I have the international unlock version of TP2... which one do I order?
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What is this 1st Generation screen and 2nd generation screen... I have the international unlock version of TP2... which one do I order?
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No idea.
Hello guys, my digitizer broken.....the lcd is in perfect condition..but i am not sure if the digitizer can replaced alone because lcd and digitizer are stick together....so is there any way that i can fix my digitizer without buying new lcd and without damaging my lcd........i want only to replace the digitizer and have it as was when i bought it...also i am in Europe,so i don't have any warranty either a shop that sell parts and can replace it!Waiting impatiently for your help!
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The LCD and digitizer can be separated and you could just replace your broken digitizer. Just find this LCD and digitizer separation video in Youtube, but it's for Nokia Pure 808... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7FbCvI_ZGA&list=SPFF45001BDE8794B7&index=65, the guy making this video is good at repairing phones, you could send him message to look for help/advice. Good luck!
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I did several of the htc inspire 4g phones at one point, bought,fixed and sold. I can safely say this process CAN be done but is very difficult and not to be taken lightly. You have to dismantle EVERYTHING else to get to the digitizer/lcd assembly, heat the 2 pieces and slooooowly pry apart. It's VERY easy to break the lcd in the process, then there's dust that gets in between and/or adhesive when putting in the new. The vids make it look easy-it's not. The connectors are also fragile and EASY to break-and there are others not directly attached to the lcd, lost TINY screws. It's also VERY easy to damage the case in the process or the power/vol buttons-the list goes on! It's way easier to replace the lcd/digitizer assembly-yes, way more expensive too. I have been following several "parts" phones and replacement parts places. The phone is too new yet for parts to be in enough demand that the price is reasonable (or broken DNA's). A parts phone is in the 200-300 ranges, the digitizer around 60-80 the lcd's around 100 and the assembly (both together already) close to 200. You do the math. You can get a whole new phone for not much more. That's if you don't end up breaking other parts and replacing them as well. If you are good at this stuff, it's very rewarding and fun to do so go for it. You can always sell your phone 'for parts' on ebay if it doesn't work out. Just don't expect easy.
As someone that's done a number of these, the above information is pretty much spot on.
I busted my glass a few days ago and found that information on disassembly and repair is sparse as are the parts. Replacing the assembly is usually a safer bet, I would say that separating the two doubles the difficulty of the project, and the biggest determining factors are tools, and time.
The biggest problem for a repair like this is rushing the project.
This is one of those things that you should not do when you are short on time. Usually problems come from being in too big of a hurry, so plan on having plenty of time. If something unexpected comes into the mix, you want to be able to deal with it when you aren't tired and aren't needing to get your phone back together in a hurry because it's your only phone. So factor into the equation you might need a backup phone and it may take more hours than originally planned.
Have a decent digital camera at your side and photograph the entire disassembly process so that when it's time to put it back together you have reference points instead of counting on remembering every little detail.
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Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
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Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
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No, do not waste your time attempting to separate the glass from the LCD, you WILL break the LCD.
You would come out a little bit cheaper ordering the glass and LCD assembly alone BUT it can be kind of a hassle sticking that part down.
Ordering it with the frame/housing is 100% how I recommend going about the screen repair for a G3 since it comes glued to the frame/housing... it's less of a hassle you'd have to worry about. Just transfer all of the internals to the new frame and you're golden.
However, I will recommend that you order the screen from the link I provided below... as the warranty on this screen will be good for 1 year, plus it's even a little cheaper. They are just currently back ordered until the 7th, but it's well worth it for a 1 year warranty.
Good luck.
https://www.wholesalegadgetparts.com/product.php?productid=23575&cat=2424&page=1
steber04 said:
Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
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you are right, the small parts include camera, lcd foam, speaker, and so on, my customer had bought the vs985 lcd here, you can take a look, hope this will help you
My screen had a crack in it i had a tmo g3 layn round that had a bad sim reader so i jus swaped the motherboard and bam no more crack in my screen