Hello guys, my digitizer broken.....the lcd is in perfect condition..but i am not sure if the digitizer can replaced alone because lcd and digitizer are stick together....so is there any way that i can fix my digitizer without buying new lcd and without damaging my lcd........i want only to replace the digitizer and have it as was when i bought it...also i am in Europe,so i don't have any warranty either a shop that sell parts and can replace it!Waiting impatiently for your help!
blake chan said:
The LCD and digitizer can be separated and you could just replace your broken digitizer. Just find this LCD and digitizer separation video in Youtube, but it's for Nokia Pure 808... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7FbCvI_ZGA&list=SPFF45001BDE8794B7&index=65, the guy making this video is good at repairing phones, you could send him message to look for help/advice. Good luck!
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I did several of the htc inspire 4g phones at one point, bought,fixed and sold. I can safely say this process CAN be done but is very difficult and not to be taken lightly. You have to dismantle EVERYTHING else to get to the digitizer/lcd assembly, heat the 2 pieces and slooooowly pry apart. It's VERY easy to break the lcd in the process, then there's dust that gets in between and/or adhesive when putting in the new. The vids make it look easy-it's not. The connectors are also fragile and EASY to break-and there are others not directly attached to the lcd, lost TINY screws. It's also VERY easy to damage the case in the process or the power/vol buttons-the list goes on! It's way easier to replace the lcd/digitizer assembly-yes, way more expensive too. I have been following several "parts" phones and replacement parts places. The phone is too new yet for parts to be in enough demand that the price is reasonable (or broken DNA's). A parts phone is in the 200-300 ranges, the digitizer around 60-80 the lcd's around 100 and the assembly (both together already) close to 200. You do the math. You can get a whole new phone for not much more. That's if you don't end up breaking other parts and replacing them as well. If you are good at this stuff, it's very rewarding and fun to do so go for it. You can always sell your phone 'for parts' on ebay if it doesn't work out. Just don't expect easy.
As someone that's done a number of these, the above information is pretty much spot on.
I busted my glass a few days ago and found that information on disassembly and repair is sparse as are the parts. Replacing the assembly is usually a safer bet, I would say that separating the two doubles the difficulty of the project, and the biggest determining factors are tools, and time.
The biggest problem for a repair like this is rushing the project.
This is one of those things that you should not do when you are short on time. Usually problems come from being in too big of a hurry, so plan on having plenty of time. If something unexpected comes into the mix, you want to be able to deal with it when you aren't tired and aren't needing to get your phone back together in a hurry because it's your only phone. So factor into the equation you might need a backup phone and it may take more hours than originally planned.
Have a decent digital camera at your side and photograph the entire disassembly process so that when it's time to put it back together you have reference points instead of counting on remembering every little detail.
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Do anyone has video or pdf or wtever guide to give the instruction how to disassemble the flyer?(i am thinking to repair the flyer myself) Thank you
Here you go:
www.techrepublic.com/photos/crackin...3?seq=2&tag=content;siu-container#photo-frame
thx, but i have 1 more question, do u know how to remove the digitizer? is it the same way as other smartphone?(use hot gun and remove the digitizer?)
athris said:
thx, but i have 1 more question, do u know how to remove the digitizer? is it the same way as other smartphone?(use hot gun and remove the digitizer?)
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Yes, there is a note in the techrepublic teardown about it being bonded like a smartphone. You should however be vary careful given the size of the screen more heat (not temperature) is required, and the risk of thermally cracking the underlying LCD panel is correspondingly higher.
Beware! Learn from my adventures.
So, I took apart my wife's HTC Flyer this past week to replace the screen. While the Techrepublic teardown shots are helpful, it's missing about ten steps at the end that involve actually removing the screen. I've messed around with tabletpc's and laptops before but not cell phones so wasn't really prepared for the fact that you have to pretty much take the whole Flyer apart in order to be able to get the screen off. As far as I can tell, no one else has documented taking one of these apart to replace the screen. I will write up something more involved when I get a chance but here's a couple things that I found out about the screen.
1. The part of the screen that you touch with your finger and stylus is not glass! It is a heavy plastic layer that is adhered to the glass digitizer. It is clear with the black around the edge and cutout for the HTC logo. This was the part of my screen that had chips in it. I tried to use a screen repair kit to repair the chips (which I did) but it took off the outer, darker finish in the process. So I moved to the next step, replacing the screen. I didn't know about the outer layer, otherwise that would have been much easier to replace. But, I don't think you can get that part unless you have connections with HTC.
2. The outer layer/digitizer glass comes as one part (along with the n-trig connector). I ordered mine for around $50 on ebay.
3. You will need to take the back off and much of the motherboard to be able to disconnect the n-trig connector.
4. Taking the screen off will take heat. I used a hair dryer but more heat could be better although you have to be careful of the lcd underneath. My digitizer broke while removing and ending up putting a small gouge in the lcd. I was able to fix the lcd well enough, just be careful.
5. HTC used a buttload of sticky tape to secure the glass to the lcd and case. My cheap blue pry tool quickly broke so I ended up using a plastic butter knife to separate digitizer from the case. Once off, I used Goo Be Gone to get rid of all the sticky tape from it. I'm ready to put new tape on but I'm not sure exactly what they used. Anyone have any ideas? It's a black, closed cell sticky tape that is really stringy when it comes to taking off. Most of the stuff I see for sale online seems to be really thin stuff. I picked up some Scotch Outdoor Mounting Tape by 3M that looks to be similar that I am going to experiment with. Anyone know for sure what they used?
6. I put the new digitizer on temporarily to check to see if it worked and it did (yay)! But I still need need to cut all of the tape and put it in the right spot. There are also these little plastic tabs that go on the backside of the screen. They are used to refract light from the led's to light up the outside navigation buttons. Be careful not to lose these. I did, and had to make one. We'll see how I did once I get it back together.
7. I found that there's not a lot of parts out there for these things. At least not compared to cell phones. Now that they're being discontinued, I don't know if that is going to help.
Anyway, I took a few pics along the way and will try to write something up when I get more time. I just wanted to give folks a heads-up on the screen and how it's put together. I can't imagine the View's screen is any different. So whatever they're using for the outer layer isn't Gorilla Glass. Or is it?
UPDATE:
Here are the promised photos of this disaster. I'll add the commentary tomorrow (I'm tired).
Two more comments and I can finally upload my photos.
I need to replace my LCD and Glass...anyone know where I can order these parts...I cant find them anywhere.
Hard to find parts for the Flyer/View which could be a problem. Looks like some is selling an LCD, though on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PH-LCD-HT-2...360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf8f0390 from my PG41200 using Tapatalk
I purchased mine here and it works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260906551668?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Much better price. What kind of tape did you use? Also did you have to replace any of the light reflacting plastic tabs that are used to light the buttons around the outside of the digitizer?
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Will a replacement screen for the Flyer work well on a View?
I don't see why not. Except for some of the internals, they are pretty much identical hardware wise.
Hey All..
I saw a TBolt pop up on Craigslist and ended up trading my OG Droid (that I bought from a friend for $50) + $25 bucks for a Tbolt in very good condition but the Digitizer is cracked..
Its not Horrible, I still use the phone and love 4G.. but I want to replace the Digitizer.. I have done a few screens on IProducts and older phones but I have herd lots of horror stories about Digitizers not working after being replaced or dead spots and ghost touches on the TBolt..
So How many have done it and everything has gone 100% fine and where did you get your screen and adhesive? And then how many say i should save my pennies and trust someone else to do it?
I've done 2
1 successful and one a disaster
Put to much 3 m tape on one and it smudged on ends and touch screen
Only worked half way but if you use hair dryer and get really hot and use a small amount of tape it isn't that bad but watched video on YouTube of repair from a repair universe and that's where I bought it
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carycooke said:
I've done 2
1 successful and one a disaster
Put to much 3 m tape on one and it smudged on ends and touch screen
Only worked half way but if you use hair dryer and get really hot and use a small amount of tape it isn't that bad but watched video on YouTube of repair from a repair universe and that's where I bought it
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So Repair Universe has good stuff? I was hoping someone had sourced a better (read; cheaper) replacement.. $40 is steep compared to the $15 Digitizers that are still working on Itouches i replaced 2 years ago.. and I have never had to separate a LCD and Digitizer before when they were glued together.. that was the biggest thing I am unsure of..
I replaced a digitizer/LCD combo on the Thunderbolt, but I've also replaced the digitizer alone on the HTC Inspire and HD2 many times, and the Thunderbolt is very similar to these two (especially the Inspire). It's not very hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD, just heat the glass up very good first, and make sure you get some good 2mm adhesive for reassembling them. The digitizer does not adhere to the frame at all (though the shell does sort of wrap around and clip onto the glass), it is only adhered to the LCD so you have to be sure to get them nice and tight. The best way to do this is to just get an LCD/digitizer combo pre assembled, then it only takes about 5 minutes from start to finish, and you don't have to be nearly as careful. You can get the combo for like $50 on eBay, just make sure you buy from a reputable seller. Repairs Universe is trustworthy, but they sell the same stuff you get on eBay, and everything is made in China to begin with.
Awesome to hear. I won't be going to repare universe then. 40 for the digitizer alone is steep to me. I am not sure if I want to try and just do the digitizer or just swap both. I bought this TBolt for $60 used so I can probably afford to just buy the whole assembly.
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Hi
I have HTC Touch Pro 2 and today I broke its screen, it have 3 cracks on it now but strange touch screen is completely working without any problems. I also had screen protector on.
Now what do I have to do? Do I have to replace complete screen or I think I will just need to replace the screen digitizer?
Please guide so I can order it from ebay or if you could recommend any store from where I can buy quality products.
Thanks
Yep, been there done that. You have broken the digitizer glass most likely. I suggest that you get a LCD&Digitizer replacement from ebay like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Digitiz...172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c62be3b24
Do some shopping around I only paid ~$12 for my replacement.
Learn from my mistakes and get the set. It is next to impossible to separate the lcd and digitizer. You can usually swap around the various kinds of lcds too. On my sprint tp2 I installed a at&t tilt screen with no issues.
It is not to bad of a job to replace, but the first time is a little nerve racking as you have to do a total tear down. There are videos on the tear down around online. If you live near Seattle WA, I can give you a hand.
wizardknight said:
Yep, been there done that. You have broken the digitizer glass most likely. I suggest that you get a LCD&Digitizer replacement from ebay like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Digitiz...172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c62be3b24
Do some shopping around I only paid ~$12 for my replacement.
Learn from my mistakes and get the set. It is next to impossible to separate the lcd and digitizer. You can usually swap around the various kinds of lcds too. On my sprint tp2 I installed a at&t tilt screen with no issues.
It is not to bad of a job to replace, but the first time is a little nerve racking as you have to do a total tear down. There are videos on the tear down around online. If you live near Seattle WA, I can give you a hand.
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Thanks, thats what I thought too, so your personal experience says its impossible to separate LCD and digitizer.. thats too sad as it can save me some money but I wonder why they are selling so many digitizers alone all over internet, and that is just for $8 to $10 with delivery.....
So finally you replaced both LCD+Digitizer or you were you able to replace just the digitizer?
and I live in Pakistan so I could only use help here or on any IM
Impossible, no. You will go through probably a dozen before you get to a point where you could separate them 50-75% of the time successfully. You will spend way less money if you get a screen set, or a phone with a bad board/esn number to pull parts from. There is an adhesive between the lcd and the digitizer (usually along the edge). The lcd does not have a protective glass layer, and it is sooooo easy to pull the lcd coating right off the lcd base it is not funny. You could tear apart the one you have as a free learning experience. It is not going to cost you anything but your time.
Saw this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqNlM68_as
Well if its just that then its a piece of cake for me too, Im a technical person.... So what Im going todo is to open my mobile first before ordering and try to separate the digitizer from the screen and if I was successful then I will just order the digitizer and if I was not then I will order a complete screen set like the one you mentioned in your link.
What is this 1st Generation screen and 2nd generation screen... I have the international unlock version of TP2... which one do I order?
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What is this 1st Generation screen and 2nd generation screen... I have the international unlock version of TP2... which one do I order?
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No idea.
My phone has developed a digitizer problem in that a vertical strip (approx 15mm) is completely unresponsive, and sometimes the screen goes a bit haywire (continously zooms in when web browsing or in a document). Have tried resetting the phone, and reflashing the ROM, but the problem persists.
Does anyone have any experience when with regards to replacing the digitizer, and would like to share their experiences? I.e. Is there anything which I should be made aware of, such as specific rookie errors? Have looked up some Youtube videos, so I think I'm fairly clued up, but thought I'd call in on the experts before I take the plunge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591399
check this thread
not recommend replace digitizer at this moment it cast too many $$$, Asus CES2014 announce $99 smart phone.
thecjan said:
not recommend replace digitizer at this moment it cast too many $$$, Asus CES2014 announce $99 smart phone.
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They look nice the zenfone that is will have to buy a sd card for it down side no internal memory or atleast none you can use. besides that actually looks very nice. wonder how long before you can buy one right now it says ask dealer about availability so im guessing 3 to 6 months. digitizer $15.00 and then he can sell phone for $50 to $75 dollars if he chooses to later once it finally hits stores
Yeah, but with sd cards being inexpensive (I just got a 8gb class 4 microsd for $50, about U$S10) it isn't really a downside. If you maage to get an replacement for the digitizer, buy it. as overboard says, you can sell the phone at a higher price if you decide to buy another.
OP, I had the same problem, I warn you, once you detach the digitizer from the phone, before you actually remove it, dettach the lcd also, that way, when you must remove the flex and pass it through, the gap will be larger and you wont have to bend the flex, avoiding the risk of damaging it. Digitizer and lcd are meant to be extracted together. Also, be very careful when you detach the digitizer, as dointg it hard can remove the glue strips and let the dust enter the screen. that's what happened to mine, glue strips got broken at the bottom corners, and now the capacitive buttons' light pass thru it, to the screen and dust enters and I can't see sh*t
Thanks guys. From what I've read, most people appear to experience problems either during or after the upgrade, so even though a replacement digitizer should only set me back £15, it could be more hassle that it's worth...
This could be a good opportunity to upgrade
Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
steber04 said:
Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
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No, do not waste your time attempting to separate the glass from the LCD, you WILL break the LCD.
You would come out a little bit cheaper ordering the glass and LCD assembly alone BUT it can be kind of a hassle sticking that part down.
Ordering it with the frame/housing is 100% how I recommend going about the screen repair for a G3 since it comes glued to the frame/housing... it's less of a hassle you'd have to worry about. Just transfer all of the internals to the new frame and you're golden.
However, I will recommend that you order the screen from the link I provided below... as the warranty on this screen will be good for 1 year, plus it's even a little cheaper. They are just currently back ordered until the 7th, but it's well worth it for a 1 year warranty.
Good luck.
https://www.wholesalegadgetparts.com/product.php?productid=23575&cat=2424&page=1
steber04 said:
Well finally broke my screen on my G3.. only appears that i broke the glass and not lcd/digitzer but from what I'm reading it's all sealed and not worth my time to try to separate?
I found this site that has LCD Screen and Digitizer Assembly with Front Housing (No Small Parts) for $89 which doesn't seem horrible. Just not sure what they mean by no small parts, I'm assuming they're referring to the cameras and motherboards.. Can anyone verify this is my best route? New to fixing phones, worked on plenty of small electronics just not a phone but I'm not near an upgrade and actually like this phone so replacing isn't an option.
Thanks for any help.. the broken section is causing my phone to do some wild things. =o/
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you are right, the small parts include camera, lcd foam, speaker, and so on, my customer had bought the vs985 lcd here, you can take a look, hope this will help you
My screen had a crack in it i had a tmo g3 layn round that had a bad sim reader so i jus swaped the motherboard and bam no more crack in my screen