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Okay, digging deep into Android's source.... not for the feint of heart, and not for those whose coding skills are somewhere just above, "Hello, world!" (Me)
Here's the deal. We all know, with Froyo, Google disabled task killers. No app can kill another app. I for one am happy, because killing all apps when your screen goes off is stupid, pointless, and all kinds of harmful. Well, happy but for one little thing....
Killing other apps still does have a purpose! Specifically, in my case, I want to replace my long-press home option with a cool app switcher that also gives me the ability to kill a running app if I know I am done with it for the day and it refuses to die naturally. I'm sure there are other legitimate uses for it, such as killing everything before a benchmark. Sure, these are very specific, uncommon uses, but a thousand apps on the Market exist for specific, uncommon uses, and I think that most hackers/modders with su here would know better than to let a task killer run rampant. Anyone wanna discuss re-enabling this on 2.2?
Edit: I should correct myself. I keep saying "app," what I mean is "service." I know you can still stop (most) apps, but not services. Which keeps a lot of apps running, despite your best efforts. Forgive me for misusing the words
wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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^ditto.......
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wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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Taskiller will show the app was killed. I'm sure many others will too. But kill an app, then go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Running, and you'll see that it's still running.
Edit: I should correct myself. I keep saying "app," what I mean is "service." I know you can still stop (most) apps, but not services. Which keeps a lot of apps running, despite your best efforts. Forgive me for misusing the words.
Forgive the obvious question but can't the services just be killed by a root request/process? If so, creating an interface for this should be easy as pants.
Of course, root is required but that shouldn't be a constraint.
djmcnz said:
Forgive the obvious question but can't the services just be killed by a root request/process? If so, creating an interface for this should be easy as pants.
Of course, root is required but that shouldn't be a constraint.
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True. But wouldn't it make more sense to allow the dozens of non-root apps that already exist to do this, rather than have to re-write an app that does the exact same thing, but has to use su? It would be safer, too. Running everything as root all the time runs contrary to the whole idea of Linux. It's better to give apps the permissions they need, rather than give everything unlimited power.
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True. But wouldn't it make more sense to allow the dozens of non-root apps that already exist to do this, rather than have to re-write an app that does the exact same thing, but has to use su? It would be safer, too. Running everything as root all the time runs contrary to the whole idea of Linux. It's better to give apps the permissions they need, rather than give everything unlimited power.
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Oh, I see. It might be useful but that's the essence of the Froyo changes... it can't be done now without root. You've have to compromise the security model... probably not a feasible route...
I think you are mistaken, maybe in Manage Applications it still shows it as "stoppable", however... I just did a test.
1. Opened DDMS on my PC.
2. Took note of an app to test with (speedtest) that was currently running.
3. Opened Advanced Task Manager.
4. Killed speedtest with task manager and watched it disappear from the running process list in DDMS.
Obviously ATM was able to kill the task. And, just so you know, it did not start running again. Also, it was removed from the "Running" tab in Manage Applications, so you are double wrong.
And, in case you were going to further the argument that you meant to say "Services", I just killed the PhoneFusion VM service with ATM, and it was removed from the running process list in DDMS.
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Oh, I see. It might be useful but that's the essence of the Froyo changes... it can't be done now without root. You've have to compromise the security model... probably not a feasible route...
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Or create something that uses su to kill these processes for third-party apps, without the need for them to have su. Similar to superuser apk, but on a more specific level. Or, we could make it even better, and have superuser hand out specific, user-approved permissions, rather than permit root access as a whole to any app.
Apparently there's not a lot of interest in this, but I thought it would make an interesting discussion.
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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But I am not eager to root...
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
Hello!
Is there anyway I can manage my tasks better?
I tried those Advanced Task Managers, Task Killers, Memory Optimizers...
I got HTC Evo 3D and all the time I'm having only 200mb of free memory?
All the time application start by themselfes :/
and is there any suggestion for battery?
I'm using JuiceDefender?
ROM - LeeDroid
You don't need one.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
Are you thinking what I'm thinking Pinky?
chefdave12118 said:
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
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This man is right. On Android 2.1, task killers were actually beneficial. Ever since Froyo, Android has done a much better job of memory management. Task killers are NOT needed.
Related question....
When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
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Related question....
When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
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HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
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HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
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So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
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So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
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Now I'm not 100% sure, but I think unchecking it would make it just not load when you boot up the phone. I'm not sure there's a way to 100% remove it. But, then again, I'm not a dev, so I could be wrong.
I leave it unchecked, but you can remove the apk (task manager). That's the one that comes up in you notification bar.
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
khaytsus said:
Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
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he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
FlukiestEmperor said:
So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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TuneIn Radio
FaceBook
Just 2 of the many Apps that run background processes without my permission and offer no options to stop them loading on boot.
Why TuneIn Radio needs a background process is beyond me. But its a blatant abuse of a weakness in android.
Is there a way to stop these processes for good? or is uninstall the only option?
Don't use bad apps. And learn how the system works.
Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
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Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
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Thanks!
giftedgiggsy11 said:
Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
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Indeed great toolbox.
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ivan1real said:
Don't use bad apps. And learn how the system works.
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So what if they run in the background? ram is there to be used.
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So what if they run in the background? ram is there to be used.
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Its not using Ram. Its using CPU and power and monitoring what i do on my phone.
Cashed processes use RAM.
Have you got anymore detail about the app TuneIn Radio?
I've had this installed for a number of weeks now and was unaware or background processes being run.
What type of processes are these and what do they do?
I've had a quick look at the permissions the app has and the following is all I can find:
System Tools - automatically start at boot
Why would it need to start at boot?
I love tune in radio i bought the app it's great i use toolbox to block it off when i am not using it.. FB i couldn't care less for lol..
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Its not using Ram. Its using CPU and power and monitoring what i do on my phone.
Cashed processes use RAM.
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Really? Any process that is running uses RAM. Please understand how a system works before looking for a reason to fix something that may not be broken.
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Really? Any process that is running uses RAM. Please understand how a system works before looking for a reason to fix something that may not be broken.
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i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cached in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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Lol. How do you know its a live process. I have Facebook installed and the only thing its doing is running as a service to provide push notifications. I have system panel pro running and Facebooks average CPU consumption is actually under 1%. Can't say the same for tune-in radio
Facebook uses a service for notifications and the messenger i guess, about tunein, don't know. But that's how android works, if you want an app that pushes notifications which are not directly covered within the system itself, you need a service, otherwise there would run the whole app all of the time which needs even more resources (btw, that's how ios handles it).
Simple solution, use the already told or just freeze the app with titanium or disable notifications if possible.
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Facebook uses a service for notifications and the messenger i guess, about tunein, don't know. But that's how android works, if you want an app that pushes notifications which are not directly covered within the system itself, you need a service, otherwise there would run the whole app all of the time which needs even more resources (btw, that's how ios handles it).
Simple solution, use the already told or just freeze the app with titanium or disable notifications if possible.
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i have uninstalled Facebook anyway i found 3 active processes and even one in the System processes! Its basically just malware that app.
Now Tunein is becoming a hassle. even with the startup blocked it keeps booting up!
irzero said:
i have uninstalled Facebook anyway i found 3 active processes and even one in the System processes! Its basically just malware that app.
Now Tunein is becoming a hassle. even with the startup blocked it keeps booting up!
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LOL
About Facebook, there is a app called sns if I'm not wrong, delete or freeze it with titanium, is just a Facebook interface.
Tunein, check if there isn't an additional service, sometimes there are bad apps where the service starts the app and the app starts the service.
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Tectas said:
About Facebook, there is a app called sns if I'm not wrong, delete or freeze it with titanium, is just a Facebook interface.
Tunein, check if there isn't an additional service, sometimes there are bad apps where the service starts the app and the app starts the service.
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i have uninstalled them now because i am unhappy in the way they run on my system. anything that behaves this way is obviously trying very hard to stay active on my system for a reason.
I guess they are data mining for the adverts that support the app. Not on my phone they dont.
irzero said:
i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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We can only form our opinion on that from the content of your posts.
"It doesn't use RAM." is what you said, which you now deny.
You don't know the difference between cash and cache.
You don't know how to use capital letters or apostrophes.
Not looking good so far
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irzero said:
i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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Just because you build computers doesn't mean you understand how they intertwine with the software. Especially since most computers have Windows installed on them. The RAM and caching process is much different compared to Linux, which Android is based off of. Thank you, have a nice day!
irzero said:
i have uninstalled them now because i am unhappy in the way they run on my system. anything that behaves this way is obviously trying very hard to stay active on my system for a reason.
I guess they are data mining for the adverts that support the app. Not on my phone they dont.
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Android uses a strict permission policy, you can view every permission an app has before you download it and no app can gather data without given permissions.
I don't know and to be honest i don't care which permissions those 2 apps have, because i don't use them, but i guess at least tunein radio has no access to private data.
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