Hello!
Is there anyway I can manage my tasks better?
I tried those Advanced Task Managers, Task Killers, Memory Optimizers...
I got HTC Evo 3D and all the time I'm having only 200mb of free memory?
All the time application start by themselfes :/
and is there any suggestion for battery?
I'm using JuiceDefender?
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You don't need one.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
Are you thinking what I'm thinking Pinky?
chefdave12118 said:
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
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This man is right. On Android 2.1, task killers were actually beneficial. Ever since Froyo, Android has done a much better job of memory management. Task killers are NOT needed.
Related question....
When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
aypanthony said:
Related question....
When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
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HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
SolsticeZero said:
HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
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So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
aypanthony said:
So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
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Now I'm not 100% sure, but I think unchecking it would make it just not load when you boot up the phone. I'm not sure there's a way to 100% remove it. But, then again, I'm not a dev, so I could be wrong.
I leave it unchecked, but you can remove the apk (task manager). That's the one that comes up in you notification bar.
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Hi,
Has anyone else noticed that Advanced Task Killer is killed off somewhere or crashed without reporting it on the Galaxy S II?
I have it set to kill applications when the screen is turned off, but eventually or sometimes on a reboot another task monitoring (only) application does not show it running.
@Class said:
Hi,
Has anyone else noticed that Advanced Task Killer is killed off somewhere or crashed without reporting it on the Galaxy S II?
I have it set to kill applications when the screen is turned off, but eventually or sometimes on a reboot another task monitoring (only) application does not show it running.
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Did you add ATK to ATK's ignore list? That's the first thing that you need to do.
Yes obviously I've never had any problems with ATK, works great on my older Legend and Droid Pro.
@Class said:
Yes obviously I've never had any problems with ATK, works great on my older Legend and Droid Pro.
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I'm running the latest ATK Pro, and I do not have this issue.
cmd512 said:
I'm running the latest ATK Pro, and I do not have this issue.
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Totally totally off topic, but LOVE your car! looks and sounds totally amazing!
hey guys, I always used autostarts on my evo 4g to disable apps from starting up. I never like the task killer approach since it was said to have done more harm than good on android 2.2+. Well, since the 3d isn't rooted yet, what are you guys doing to keep apps from running? anything?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15111733#post15111733
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15111733#post15111733
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without root, all that can do is kill processes manually... same as ATK... unless I am missing something
For now, yes. Unless you know of another that works without root and doesn't actually hinder AOS? This one and minfree are considered the best according to reviews around the web. Set a preset and let it do it's thing....they work in conjunction w/AOS. But you are right, you have to manually end the process for now
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For now, yes. Unless you know of another that works without root and doesn't actually hinder AOS? This one and minfree are considered the best according to reviews around the web. Set a preset and let it do it's thing....they work in conjunction w/AOS. But you are right, you have to manually end the process for now
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i am unable to set a preset in memory optimizer... whenever i do, i hit menu > refresh and the original values return...
shad0w77 said:
i am unable to set a preset in memory optimizer... whenever i do, i hit menu > refresh and the original values return...
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You can't cause we don't have root. My post meant this is one of the best when we have root. For the time being you have to manually end the process yourself.
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You can't cause we don't have root. My post meant this is one of the best when we have root. For the time being you have to manually end the process yourself.
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Ahhh got it... Sorry for the misunderstanding... Thanks!
Wanting to use "Advanced Task Killer" app instead of rooting: Good or Bad idea?
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
stefnuts said:
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
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definitely not, i think
@stratax,
Thanks man.......Darn it!
Well, maybe with ICS coming out for the Amaze 4G, app/task management will be better??!
Who knows?
Thanks again
I currently use advanced task killer. Is anything wrong with it?
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stefnuts said:
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
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Once you kill it the program will restart itself. No matter what every time you kill it, it will restart. which will cause your phone to lag and use more battery than the phone would if everything was running. The way the android operating system is designed is to have every program running in the background. How ever the program isn't actually running. Using task killers can do more harm than good when it comes to things like bloatware. It can cause and has caused my phone crash. Id just use Titanium backup to get rid of what you can. Overall I'd just use the task manager installed in the amaze because I stopped using a task killer and i get better performance as well as the same battery life ect.
I've always stayed away from using task killers unless I'm really desperate to free up some RAM... In general, I always just freeze whatever apps I don't want running at all (eg. bloatware, stock messing app, Sense if I'm using a third party launcher, etc) and never had any noticeable issues with not having enough free RAM
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Once you kill it the program will restart itself. No matter what every time you kill it, it will restart. which will cause your phone to lag and use more battery than the phone would if everything was running. The way the android operating system is designed is to have every program running in the background. How ever the program isn't actually running. Using task killers can do more harm than good when it comes to things like bloatware. It can cause and has caused my phone crash. Id just use Titanium backup to get rid of what you can. Overall I'd just use the task manager installed in the amaze because I stopped using a task killer and i get better performance as well as the same battery life ect.
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exactly my thoughts you said it perfectly.
Well that makes sense to me, ill be getting rid of it and seeing how long my battery lasts
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cndctrdj said:
Well that makes sense to me, ill be getting rid of it and seeing how long my battery lasts
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Have you tried V6 Supercharger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
juice defender
Most kernel devs (people who really know how stuff like this are handled) will tell you to stay away from task killers.
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juice defender
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The problem with Juice Defender is that most of the power saving settings can be achieved without the app, and the screen off/data off feature sucks for people like me who use and rely heavily on messaging apps. I use Kik and GTalk heavily and even setting the data sync at 5 minute increments is still annoying.
If you don't use your phone this way, then I would definitely recommend juice defender.
MORE SMOOTHNESS, MORE SPEED, LESS LAGS
you don't have to use Task Killer!
Try This: RAM Manager PRO OR RAM Manager FREE
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
khaytsus said:
Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
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he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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I am NOT a fan of HTC's built in task manager and was wondering what other people are using in place of it. I have a couple of apps that I want to run even after the "kill all" button is hit. There's no exception rule or anything like that on the built in manager. So what are you using?
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Greenify ftw
I've been using this and it's great for automation. Just one problem. I play battlefield 4 and it hangs from time to time. I don't want to add it to greenify but I have to kill the app when it hangs like that so I need something I can kill apps with on demand but still be able to whitest other apps. Is there anything out there that does both? If not, it's cool. I can just use HTC's built in one alongside greenify. It would just be nice to have an aio.
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I dont mean to sound like a n00b but can someone tell me how to get to the task manager? I have yet to find it. (And double tapping the home key is for recent apps not the task manager before someone says that)
AngelDeath said:
I dont mean to sound like a n00b but can someone tell me how to get to the task manager? I have yet to find it. (And double tapping the home key is for recent apps not the task manager before someone says that)
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Not there.
what are you trying to do with a "real" taskmanager?
I thought most people just want something that will shut down all running, un needed programs
AngelDeath said:
I dont mean to sound like a n00b but can someone tell me how to get to the task manager? I have yet to find it. (And double tapping the home key is for recent apps not the task manager before someone says that)
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iIt's a mini task manager still helps to close apps lol!
I use task management tool from Replicon that is featured with a calender based and user friendly interface. With a hassle free experience the tool is all set to cope up with the android and iOS devices in delivering the end result in a profitable manner. Check out my signature for the link.
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I use task management tool from Replicon that is featured with a calender based and user friendly interface. With a hassle free experience the tool is all set to cope up with the android and iOS devices in delivering the end result in a profitable manner. Check out my signature for the link.
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this isnt the kind of "task manager" being discussed here...
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this isnt the kind of "task manager" being discussed here...
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lol thanks, i was kind of confused on that reply lol