Hey folks, this is just sort of relevant and since I can't find that topic where we were talking about these (And I think it was in the wrong subtopic anyway) I just figured I'd post it here.
So we've been having discussions about which type of game controller to use for the Z Ultra since the thing is so big, and while we've been able to get the Z Ultra into the Moga controllers, it's still somewhat skeptical as to how they work.
Anywho, quality reviewer Erica Grifffin has actually created a video where she reviews these controllers in detail and tests them out with, you guessed it, the Z Ultra.
I haven't finished the whole video, but she does it with the Hero at least, so there you go.
I'll provide a timestamped link to about where she begins using it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6TL0r4rDe5M#t=1038
Shadow of Chaos said:
I'll provide a timestamped link to about where she begins using it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6TL0r4rDe5M#t=1038
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Well, she does not really use the ZU. Just shows off that its possible to fit it in the smaller version ( both android versions use the exact same arm length mechanism ).
The fact that the weight is a small problem ( that it can flip inside ), is not being mentioned ( see the other Moga topic in the General section ). Nor does the problem with the power / volume button position come up. What is a bit of a shame. Other devices will run into the same problem, so its not just a ZU problem.
I purchased the Wamo Pro (cheap version) from DX: http://dx.com/p/wamo-wireless-bluetooth-gamepad-for-android-ios-cell-phone-pc-black-222605#.Utol7RDsSUk
It supports up to 9mm wide devices (xperia z ultra is 9.2mm), but it fits really good, I am very pleased with the controller overall.
And yeah, the power / volume buttons are a bit annoying, but if you slide the ZU in from the right it isn't much of a problem, just need to find the sweet spot where there is no pressure on the buttons.
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I purchased the Wamo Pro (cheap version) from DX: http://dx.com/p/wamo-wireless-bluetooth-gamepad-for-android-ios-cell-phone-pc-black-222605#.Utol7RDsSUk
It supports up to 9mm wide devices (xperia z ultra is 9.2mm), but it fits really good, I am very pleased with the controller overall.
And yeah, the power / volume buttons are a bit annoying, but if you slide the ZU in from the right it isn't much of a problem, just need to find the sweet spot where there is no pressure on the buttons.
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when you do slide it, do you find it's balance to be off substantially?
Any way, how's the quality of that thing? A cheap alternative to the Moga if it doesn't feel horrible.
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when you do slide it, do you find it's balance to be off substantially?
Any way, how's the quality of that thing? A cheap alternative to the Moga if it doesn't feel horrible.
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Shadow, there is more to take in account then just cheap, with these type of controllers. Developers support is also a big item! Moga is more or less a bit known, so there are a bunch of developers, that add support to there games for it. But unknown devices are in general more hit or miss.
And the quality is indeed a big factor also. For instance how the buttons are spaced. How they feel when pressed down. If the nubs are analog or digital. The quality of the nubs. Those things alone can make a big difference.
That is one of the reason i liked that video reviews, because they confirm the moga had quality parts. Lets hope that archion gives a update when he gets the controller, as to those points.
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Shadow, there is more to take in account then just cheap, with these type of controllers. Developers support is also a big item! Moga is more or less a bit known, so there are a bunch of developers, that add support to there games for it. But unknown devices are in general more hit or miss.
And the quality is indeed a big factor also. For instance how the buttons are spaced. How they feel when pressed down. If the nubs are analog or digital. The quality of the nubs. Those things alone can make a big difference.
That is one of the reason i liked that video reviews, because they confirm the moga had quality parts. Lets hope that archion gives a update when he gets the controller, as to those points.
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Testing Max Payne Mobile version, controls work flawlessly, it seems to support any game that supports moga controllers. (tried GTA, Riptide GP2, Order & Chaos online, and a bunch of emulators).
The quality is good enough, probably not as good as the moga ones, but only like 1/3rd the price.
The buttons feel very good except for the d-pad, as it feels a bit clunky, but I rarely use d-pads when I have analog sticks available, so not an issue for me.
The only problem is the bad placement of the volume/power buttons, but just slide it in carefully from the right side. One way to avoid it is to buy something like this: http://www.shapeways.com/model/1443190/xbox360-controller-sony-xperia-z-ultra.html?li=gmerchant&gclid=CNj0se74y7sCFRRefgodfAkAxA
Make your self a wii mote klip http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621976
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Hi guys!
Got my Transformer Prime about 2 Weeks ago. Nice Device. Fast, smooth and good looking!
But i`m looking into using a stylus for notes in pdf documents. I have invested in a Jot Stylus Pro which is said to be the best passive stylus on the market. It works nice on the Ipad2 and ok on the HTC Desire.
On the Transformer Prime I got alot of dead spots. With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
Having such a good Atmel Touchsensor i thought the TFP should have got rid of the wobblyline problem.
is there a fix? Is the Ipad the only device that gets it right? Something Android would be sooo nice! I really dont want to write every word in the size of the TFP`s full screen.
Or will the Atmel Active Stylus be on the market soon? Did anyone try that yet?
Thx guys!
found this a second ago... Active Stylus will not work with TF201! In the first answer the guy says that it is a hardware incompatibility! And as we see with other things...
Asus will probably not unlock bootloader... so there is no chance to work around... Asus has no interest in helping us... I hope they learn something out of this.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=378757848808058&id=121682197848959
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With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
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Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.
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Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.
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No.
It is not possible, not even with TouchScreenTune, to correct or minimize the wobbly lines.
To verify. Set the width of the linedrawing tool to minimum. Place a ruler on the screen at an angle of 45 degrees. Slowly while applying even presure draw a diagonal line along the ruler (preferable using a stylus). This will produce a wobbly line.
I tried almost every notetaking or drawing program and almost every tweaking tool available. Unfortunatly to no avail.
I have asked Gary whether this is a hardware or software issue waiting on the reply.
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Same in here. As a result of many positive and praising reviews about the jot pro, I've gone ahead and bought one. It was a huge disappointment because of too much skipping issues. I am wondering if there is another stylus that may work with TP fine for handwriting.
I'm interested in this thread.
Hopefully someone can post the best settings for TST. I've tried 30 and 85 for sensitivity and flickering, but I'm still not impressed.
C'mon T'former and Jot Pro.
Pretty sure s/w can fix it, but I don't know for sure.
Red is slow, even pressure with my stylus.
Green is quicker, even pressure with same stylus.
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I think this is just capacitive screens in general isn't it, the way it tracks your finger? Since it's just a grid of "dot" sensors, when you move slowly you're bouncing from closest dot to closest dot, when you move quickly it just does more of an A to B kinda thing? I don't know much of these things.
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So much better on my phone... Maybe just because of the smaller screen though?
Testing touch screen
THis test was done by cnet on smart phones but I think the principle is the same for tablets.
cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10431635-269.html
Nice link, can someone else post a similar picture of their prime with the drawn lines. Maybe before and after touchscreen tuning.
Cheers
Hi guys, I was wondering...which bluetooth keyboards work well with the Prime.
What would you recommend???
If you need a keyboard for the Prime, I would recommend the Asus Keyboard dock made specifically for use with the Prime. Not only is it a decent small keyboard, but the extra battery life, Prime specific function keys and full sized USB port make it more useful than any standalone keyboard.
If you don't want the Asus keyboard dock, in order to help you find a keyboard that meets your needs it would be helpful to know what your specific needs are.
Do you want something ultra portable?
Do you want a full-sized keyboard?
Do you need a track pad?
Etc.
I wouldn't want to buy the keyboard dock, I think it's way overpriced ( 130 euros is the cheapest I've found in the eu ) and you can't use it in portrait mode, right?
As far as portability is concerned, I'd definitely need sth quite portable but not really tiny, you know..
So, NO trackpad and a blend between portability and comfort while typing
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Hi guys, I was wondering...which bluetooth keyboards work well with the Prime.
What would you recommend???
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If you need a keyboard for the Prime, I would recommend the Asus Keyboard dock made specifically for use with the Prime.
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As whacko suggested, the keyboard dock has so many benefits, that, while it's more expensive, I'd still recommend it.
The ability to add battery life, fold closed and use as a quasi-net book, keys specific to the Android OS make it a natural choice!
The other choice, if you're set on not getting a dock (they've come down in price, here in the U.S.) might be the Celluon Magic Cube. It's remarkably portable, allowing you to simply carry a small box with you, then projects the images of a keyboard on the table your TP is on.
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I personally use a Logitech K750 keyboard. Solar powered, so you don't ever need to worry about batteries going dead, and it has very nice keyboard feedback (something, obviously, the Magic Cube lacks!), and is also much less then the first two options.
However, while thin and light, it IS rather long, so not the most practical to carry around and transport.
Sorry... these are the best options I know of.
Thanks for the info man! I do have the K750, it's a great keyboard, but I'd prefer sth smaller
That magic cube sounds interesting, I think I'll check it out
Hey,
This may not be the best place to post this but seemed kinda relevant.
I recently saw the Iogear multi-link bluetooth keyboard which I thought looked pretty cool. (Can't post the link yet...spam filters)
At home I have a tablet stand next to my computer monitor, and I've been playing around with extending my desktop onto my Prime and stuff like that, but I'd also like to use them separately.
I loved the idea of having a bluetooth keyboard I could use for both, not that it needs to be portable, but so I can sit on my bed and use it etc. and also, having one that could be used for both seems awesome.
The thing is, I would like it to replace my current keyboard for my PC, and I'd go mad without a numpad, and the mouse tracker just looks nasty. Does anybody know of a bluetooth keyboard/mouse setup which can be linked to multiple devices (including the transformer prime) and switched between with relative ease?
I bought a Microsoft 6000 bluetooth portable mini keyboard that's notebook size. It's a tad wider than the prime. The nice thing about it, stores like Staples and Office Depot probably carry them. So you can actually go into the store and hold them, look them over, etc. It also comes with a bluetooth number pad in a little carrying case and it's separate, so you can leave it packed away if you don't need to use it.
I bought this keyboard for my stepdad for a different tablet, and it was about a year ago I think. Now I'm sure there's a newer model number, I'll have to do a search in just a bit. Back when I bought it, there was a Microsoft 6000 Notebook Wireless Keyboard (bluetooth) and a 6000 Desktop USB keyboard, so if you google it and see different results or specs it's because it's not the portable laptop size version.
I know where the keyboard is, today sometime I will test out how it's working with the prime for you. I bet you could order the same model really cheap on ebay but since it's a good bit older, we need to check and make sure it works well.
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how do you guys use k750 on a tablet?
Logitech® Tablet Keyboard for Androiod
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Just saw that Samsung is selling the EE-CP905 Bluetooth keyboard (Pic below). Kinda like the leather look and the fact that it's thin. The Logitech one seemed nice, but too thick. Anyone have any experience with this keyboard?
Here in the Netherlands it's being offered for around 129 euros, which seems a bit too much. Is it worth it? Any reviews, pros, cons?
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I purchased this keyboard with my Note 12.2 a couple of days ago. I have been using it pretty regularly over the last couple of days while setting the tablet up. So far I like it very much, it has been the best Tablet keyboard I have used so far and it really responds well to the tablet.
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I purchased this keyboard with my Note 12.2 a couple of days ago. I have been using it pretty regularly over the last couple of days while setting the tablet up. So far I like it very much, it has been the best Tablet keyboard I have used so far and it really responds well to the tablet.
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Any pros/cons?
Basically it doesnt protect the back of the tablet right?
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Any pros/cons?
Basically it doesnt protect the back of the tablet right?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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NO it does not protect the back of the tablet; it works as a front shell & keyboard. I can tell you this that this keyboard is hard to find, it is not on the Samsung Website and I think it is a limited run item that was produced for the launch of the tablet. Chances are if you do not get one now you may never see it available again.
It pairs easily to the tablet; it stays connected very well and it responds instantly even when you have not touched the tablet for a couple of hours. You have only one angle in which the tablet is held into the keyboard; however it is at the perfect angle for viewing the tablet while working. They keys are low profile but they feel very solid and I have not found any issues with this keyboard so far.
Again... I have only had it for a couple of days so this information is based on what I know so far!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707316
It's nice, I am keeping mine. The only real downside to me is that I do not like using the note without a case, and you cannot just flip the note over and have it still lock in place on the keyboard. That said, it does work well with any case which leaves the bottom of the Note open (like the Moko). Far superior to the Zagg.
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Just saw that Samsung is selling the EE-CP905 Bluetooth keyboard (Pic below). Kinda like the leather look and the fact that it's thin. The Logitech one seemed nice, but too thick. Anyone have any experience with this keyboard?
Here in the Netherlands it's being offered for around 129 euros, which seems a bit too much. Is it worth it? Any reviews, pros, cons?
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I paid $88 for it here in the US. I purchased it on-line from B&H Photo and Video (free delivery). It is much sturdier than the zagg keycase cover that is being sold by Best Buy. I think it is great. It forms a protective case for the tabley. Has the same faux leather covering. The only drawback is that it is not true docking keyboard. But for what it is, I think it is great.
It comes bundled in México in the 32gb SM-P900 even the package show it in the picture, it's a great product, serves as a nice cover for protect the screen and a great dock, the faux leather finish is the same of the tablet back.
Hi
I know it's an old thread but I just bought the keyboard, tested it a bit and I was wondering if anyone had an idea how to disable the word tips that display in the bottom of the screen while typing. I make very few mistakes and don't really need it. the problem is that the top of the screen is cut off a bit because of that otherwise it wouldn't bother me much
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I know it's an old thread but I just bought the keyboard, tested it a bit and I was wondering if anyone had an idea how to disable the word tips that display in the bottom of the screen while typing. I make very few mistakes and don't really need it. the problem is that the top of the screen is cut off a bit because of that otherwise it wouldn't bother me much
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I guess It depens on the application you use. I don't have such suggestion bar when I do mail and wordprocessing.
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I guess It depens on the application you use. I don't have such suggestion bar when I do mail and wordprocessing.
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I was using Chrome I didn't try other apps. There is a way to disable it in the settings but it's for all keyboards and not just the hardware one
Does anyone know that Xperia Z2 Tablet works with Stylus ? I mean regular tablet stylus like Wacom bamboo, Adonit Jot, etc.
I've seen a video on YouTube that shows it doesn't work well on it and we should push it so hard to work. is that true ?
Well I have the Bamboo Stylus pro(5mm) and I apply medium pressure on the screen for nice strokes so its kinda in between - not to hard but not to soft either.
So its alright
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But in my experience it's not good at fine, detailed strokes like those you need for taking notes or writing a letter.
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Well I have the Bamboo Stylus pro(5mm) and I apply medium pressure on the screen for nice strokes so its kinda in between - not to hard but not to soft either.
So its alright
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Yeah but in my experience with different passive touchscreen tablets they are never really suitable for notetaking in comparison with an active digitizer tablet
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Yeah but in my experience with different passive touchscreen tablets they are never really suitable for notetaking in comparison with an active digitizer tablet
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Exactly, I have a Wacom Intuos 4 tablet for professional digital painting but my idea was to sketch and paint some simple designs with this little handy tablets. by the way would you tell me that is the stylus functionality as good as Samsung note 10.1 2014 ?
If it is notetaking that you want then this tablet I am afraid is not for you if your going to use words by a stylus instead of a BT keyboard. It is usable of course but in no way can you make fine strokes that are as tiny as with a real pen. I have a surface pro 2 and that one is specifically made to support to these things.
For me I would choose a Surface Pro every day if I wanted a good tablet with pen support and the Galaxy note is a close second, so to answer your question - no, stylus support on the Z2 will never be as good as the Galaxy Note's because of the fact that one has real pen support and the other one doesn't.
I hope that helps you in your decision
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If it is notetaking that you want then this tablet I am afraid is not for you if your going to use words by a stylus instead of a BT keyboard. It is usable of course but in no way can you make fine strokes that are as tiny as with a real pen. I have a surface pro 2 and that one is specifically made to support to these things.
For me I would choose a Surface Pro every day if I wanted a good tablet with pen support and the Galaxy note is a close second, so to answer your question - no, stylus support on the Z2 will never be as good as the Galaxy Note's because of the fact that one has real pen support and the other one doesn't.
I hope that helps you in your decision
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thank you so much I appreciate it , I really like surface pro 3 and Wacom Cintiq companion but these are a little bit expensive and I can't afford it.
anyway I hope sony add some new features like stylus in upcoming Xperia z3.
Hey there!
Curious if anyone has any recommendations on a game controller for the Nexus 6. I am looking for something that attaches to the phone and doesn't require my phone to be rooted. I have looked into the ipega 9023 because all of the others look like they cannot handle a device of this size. Any help is much appreciated!
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Hey there!
Curious if anyone has any recommendations on a game controller for the Nexus 6. I am looking for something that attaches to the phone and doesn't require my phone to be rooted. I have looked into the ipega 9023 because all of the others look like they cannot handle a device of this size. Any help is much appreciated!
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Probably not something you're willing to do, but since way back when, when I had my Droid Razr, I used a Wii Controller with the attachment, because it linked via Bluetooth. There is an app that doesn't require root on the Play Store to use it by essentially using it as a keyboard attachment. As long as the game supports mapping buttons though, I would imagine any Bluetooth controller would work the same way. I don't see why you would need a root for that to work.
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Probably not something you're willing to do, but since way back when, when I had my Droid Razr, I used a Wii Controller with the attachment, because it linked via Bluetooth. There is an app that doesn't require root on the Play Store to use it by essentially using it as a keyboard attachment. As long as the game supports mapping buttons though, I would imagine any Bluetooth controller would work the same way. I don't see why you would need a root for that to work.
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I am looking for something that attaches to the nexus 6 making it one handheld device. I could use a Wii remote, but then I would have to prop my phone on something to play a game.
first of all the xbox 360 usb controller works like a charm when connected via usb otg, secondly i suggest you make something like they did in this video. it wont be pretty but it will work
http://technabob.com/blog/2013/09/02/make-your-own-nvidia-shield/
or check this out and see if it works for the nexus 6 http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Smart-Clip-Xbox-One/dp/B00FLLFM0Q
or even better, this http://utorcase.com/
I also don't know of an attachable controller but I do recomment the SteelSeries Free combined with a case that has a kickstand. I have 2 and I play games when parked with my N6 mounted in the windshield. Car audio combined with the N6 killer screen is pretty awesome.
I bought the Moga Pro Power for $80, only to be extremely disappointed that almost none of the games that support Moga, support it in Lollipop, but do in kit kat. As if now, its useless for my phone which sucks because this thing is the perfect size for gaming, in due time it should work well.
I'm still thinking something like GameKlip casemount + PS3. I had this on my S3.
I use a PS3 controller with my N6 and did the same on my previous phone the S4. However, in order to use it properly, you need to be able to run SixAxis Controller and that needs root.
PS You live fairly close to me. The people who used to live in my house moved 15 miles away to Oxenhope - Yorkshire FTW.
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I use a PS3 controller with my N6 and did the same on my previous phone the S4. However, in order to use it properly, you need to be able to run SixAxis Controller and that needs root.
PS You live fairly close to me. The people who used to live in my house moved 15 miles away to Oxenhope - Yorkshire FTW.
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You only need to use six axis for a wireless (blue tooth ) connection.. When I bought my gameklip for s3, it came with a really small usb cable and OTG. Its not the tidiest solution, but it works.
The main issue with game pads is the lack of compatibility. Having to map touch controls can be pretty painful too.
What I'm actually doing is buying a cling universal game pad.. Its not a gamepad at all though. It just sticks the handles on the phone so you can hold it like one, though it will probably need sawing in half to extend it to fit
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I think that will work great with driving games if you don't mind using tilt for steering.
Still, no way around poor control for FPS games though. The main issue is if you use left thumb for movement and right for aim, you can't do both and shoot at the same time.. I wish you could buy clip on shoulder buttons that have an adjustable capacitive pen "nib' to touch parts of the screen. I've designed it in my head but nothing I can do to make that a reality. Why can't they just make all games game pad compatible?
Yeah, i love it in Oxenhope.lovely part of the world. Where did they move to? Where are you?
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Yeah, i love it in Oxenhope.lovely part of the world. Where did they move to? Where are you?
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I tried to PM you since this is decidedly off topic but I live in Ilkley and they moved to the cluster of houses a few hundred metres before that really tight right-hand bend on Hebden Bridge Road (on the way out to Hebden Bridge). I was brought up in East Yorks but I always loved the moors in West and North Yorks.
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I tried to PM you since this is decidedly off topic but I live in Ilkley and they moved to the cluster of houses a few hundred metres before that really tight right-hand bend on Hebden Bridge Road (on the way out to Hebden Bridge). I was brought up in East Yorks but I always loved the moors in West and North Yorks.
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Yeah sorry. I have them blocked except for "friends".
Ahh I know Ilkley. Nice place.. I can't imagine where you mean on Hebden Bridge road. Near Pecket Well?.
I'm from cleethorpes originally. Not far from what is now east York's. Though it was North Humberside when I grew up there
Sorry for OT, OP
I've caved. Going for PS3