[Q] Touchscreen for writing - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hi guys!
Got my Transformer Prime about 2 Weeks ago. Nice Device. Fast, smooth and good looking!
But i`m looking into using a stylus for notes in pdf documents. I have invested in a Jot Stylus Pro which is said to be the best passive stylus on the market. It works nice on the Ipad2 and ok on the HTC Desire.
On the Transformer Prime I got alot of dead spots. With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
Having such a good Atmel Touchsensor i thought the TFP should have got rid of the wobblyline problem.
is there a fix? Is the Ipad the only device that gets it right? Something Android would be sooo nice! I really dont want to write every word in the size of the TFP`s full screen.
Or will the Atmel Active Stylus be on the market soon? Did anyone try that yet?
Thx guys!

found this a second ago... Active Stylus will not work with TF201! In the first answer the guy says that it is a hardware incompatibility! And as we see with other things...
Asus will probably not unlock bootloader... so there is no chance to work around... Asus has no interest in helping us... I hope they learn something out of this.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=378757848808058&id=121682197848959

phasA said:
With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
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Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.

vitalij said:
Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.
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No.
It is not possible, not even with TouchScreenTune, to correct or minimize the wobbly lines.
To verify. Set the width of the linedrawing tool to minimum. Place a ruler on the screen at an angle of 45 degrees. Slowly while applying even presure draw a diagonal line along the ruler (preferable using a stylus). This will produce a wobbly line.
I tried almost every notetaking or drawing program and almost every tweaking tool available. Unfortunatly to no avail.

I have asked Gary whether this is a hardware or software issue waiting on the reply.
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Same in here. As a result of many positive and praising reviews about the jot pro, I've gone ahead and bought one. It was a huge disappointment because of too much skipping issues. I am wondering if there is another stylus that may work with TP fine for handwriting.

I'm interested in this thread.
Hopefully someone can post the best settings for TST. I've tried 30 and 85 for sensitivity and flickering, but I'm still not impressed.
C'mon T'former and Jot Pro.

Pretty sure s/w can fix it, but I don't know for sure.
Red is slow, even pressure with my stylus.
Green is quicker, even pressure with same stylus.
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I think this is just capacitive screens in general isn't it, the way it tracks your finger? Since it's just a grid of "dot" sensors, when you move slowly you're bouncing from closest dot to closest dot, when you move quickly it just does more of an A to B kinda thing? I don't know much of these things.
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So much better on my phone... Maybe just because of the smaller screen though?

Testing touch screen
THis test was done by cnet on smart phones but I think the principle is the same for tablets.
cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10431635-269.html

Nice link, can someone else post a similar picture of their prime with the drawn lines. Maybe before and after touchscreen tuning.
Cheers

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DIY SGS2-based laptop-dock... stupid or not?

So I had this idea to make a little laptop dock for my phone.... not really all that practical but I kinda want to do it anyways.
The idea would be to have a wooden laptop; two flat pieces of some hard-ish wood with a hinge in the middle. Then I could route-out sections to sit a screen, keyboard and my phone in.
I found a chinese company that sells 7-inch LCD with HDMI input, but I'd rather find something like a 10-incher to be more netbook like. (if anyone knows of any, do let me know) Also, does anyone know what output resolutions the GS2 supports?
The phone would sit in the position of a trackpad, and actually act as one too. Above it would be a bluetooth keyboard, and in to top piece of wood is where the LCD would sit. Making the right type of hinge is important.. I thought it would be kinda fun if there were knobs on the side I could tighten to fix the lid at a certain angle. Pretty mechanically simple. I'd just have to somehow cut a channel to feed the hdmi from base to lid.
It would be kinda janky and steam-punkish but that's why I like the idea. Attached is an equally janky diagram I whipped up in like 10 seconds.
What do you think? Stupid project I shouldn't even try, or fun (albiet impractical) project?
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Buy a Galaxy Tab... Honeycomb is much better optimized for larger screen sizes. Also, I would prefer aluminum over wood.
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So I had this idea to make a little laptop dock for my phone.... not really all that practical but I kinda want to do it anyways.
The idea would be to have a wooden laptop; two flat pieces of some hard-ish wood with a hinge in the middle. Then I could route-out sections to sit a screen, keyboard and my phone in.
I found a chinese company that sells 7-inch LCD with HDMI input, but I'd rather find something like a 10-incher to be more netbook like. (if anyone knows of any, do let me know) Also, does anyone know what output resolutions the GS2 supports?
The phone would sit in the position of a trackpad, and actually act as one too. Above it would be a bluetooth keyboard, and in to top piece of wood is where the LCD would sit. Making the right type of hinge is important.. I thought it would be kinda fun if there were knobs on the side I could tighten to fix the lid at a certain angle. Pretty mechanically simple. I'd just have to somehow cut a channel to feed the hdmi from base to lid.
It would be kinda janky and steam-punkish but that's why I like the idea. Attached is an equally janky diagram I whipped up in like 10 seconds.
What do you think? Stupid project I shouldn't even try, or fun (albiet impractical) project?
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You have all the right ideas with the components. Just have somebody cnc you the case out of aluminum. And I wouldn't use the phone as a track pad, its not slippery enough. Figure out a way to use an external track pad, one that's painted so your finger glides across it.
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You'll need power for the MHL/HDMI adapter.
If you're going to get that hackish - why constrain yourself with the GS2?
DIY a tablet using an LCD, a touchscreen, and a BeagleBoard or PandaBoard.
(PandaBoard is one of the ICS reference platforms by the way.)
Hey check outhttp://www.hackaday.com ive seen some cool builds on there. ABSOLUTELY AWESOME SITE FOR HACKS.
HaD is awesome. I don't think there are any DIY ICS tablets - but you can get nearly all of the necessary components with a PandaBoard and touchscreen + LCD.
Would the touchscreen + LCD work to make the GS2 like the soon to be Padfone from Asus? Where u plug the phone into a capacative/LCD screen and battery?
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CNLiberal said:
Would the touchscreen + LCD work to make the GS2 like the soon to be Padfone from Asus? Where u plug the phone into a capacative/LCD screen and battery?
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Would need a LOT of software work - mainly to support an external touchscreen.

Inaccurate stylus?

I just noticed my stylus is pretty inaccurate... is this a defect? should I return it?
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There's a setting for left or right handed user... maybe its that?
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I'm right handed and it's set to right handed.
Right handed they should be pretty accurate. I'm a left and yes it is not accurate for me even when swithi to left handed in pen options.
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My stylus is off too. As I believe are everyone's. They're not perfect.
Unless it starts acting funky with random drawing you're not doing your device is probably in perfect condition.
I'm also right handed and mines off about that much as well. Wish there was calibration for the spen in the settings.
I read somewhere there's a way to calibrate the stylus..it was a link within a post..maybe someone can help me find it
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KosanRio said:
I just noticed my stylus is pretty inaccurate... is this a defect? should I return it?
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its normal.. annoying but normal... all the samsung demo units were like that and i talked to one of the samsung lead reps at our at&t training and he said thats the way the wacom digitizer is...
That's just how it's going to be on a capacitive touch screen...at least for now. Although this screen can read pressure, it's still not going to be as accurate as the old resistive screens were, which were entirely pressure based. (See Nokia N900).
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That's just how it's going to be on a capacitive touch screen...at least for now. Although this screen can read pressure, it's still not going to be as accurate as the old resistive screens were, which were entirely pressure based. (See Nokia N900).
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Uhh no this is a Wacom digtizer that's under the screen, that's not a capacitive stylus.
I found a trick in another thread (can't remember where now). Write squiggles like you're trying to get a dried pen working, and make sure they hit the four edges of the screen. Fixed my calibration right up.
Tilt your pen down and towards the right bottom corner (if set to right handed) and it will be accurate. You can test it out yourself.. make a series of dots as in the original picture, only do each dot with the pen angled differently and you'll see that the more you hold it like you're using a pencil, the more accurate it will be. If you hold it straight up and down it will be off by a few millimeters as pictured.
I posted on this in the international Note forum. The sensor is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the sensor based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. Here's the pic I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19882339#post19882339
*#0*# in dialer and pick stylus and trace the big box until its all green
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*#0*# in dialer and pick stylus and trace the big box until its all green
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I thought that was just to check if they S Pen is working.
JoeDV said:
Tilt your pen down and towards the right bottom corner (if set to right handed) and it will be accurate. You can test it out yourself.. make a series of dots as in the original picture, only do each dot with the pen angled differently and you'll see that the more you hold it like you're using a pencil, the more accurate it will be. If you hold it straight up and down it will be off by a few millimeters as pictured.
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Yep that is exactly what the Samsung rep told me as well. It's all how you hold it.
maxh said:
I posted on this in the international Note forum. The sensor is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the sensor based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. Here's the pic I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19882339#post19882339
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So I am confused why is it you don't even need the Pen in S-Memo and it works with your finger.
Earthsdog said:
So I am confused why is it you don't even need the Pen in S-Memo and it works with your finger.
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The phone in essence has 2 touchscreens, one on top of the other: a capacitive one that works with your finger, and a wacom digitizer that works with wacom technology pens.

Draw Something

Thanks to draw something, I'm considering getting this phone. Has anyone played it using the s-pen? If so how is it? I imagine it's super accurate to draw things and makes the game all the more fun.
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This phone ownes at this game. I have 20+ games going at any given time because I can drawl so much faster with a big ass screen and s-pen.
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My friends say my phone's unfair because I can put so much more details in the pictures=)
anida123 said:
My friends say my phone's unfair because I can put so much more details in the pictures=)
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Exactly.... I love it!!!!
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My wife is jealous as hell of my Note because I can draw awesome pics on it... Her pics on my old Inspire suck lol
anida123 said:
My friends say my phone's unfair because I can put so much more details in the pictures=)
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then he should get a tablet and use his finger.
like this guy:
http://kotaku.com/5894582/kotaku-re...draw-something-artist-ive-ever-seen/gallery/1
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D: That's all I have to say...just.... D:
I'm a horrible sketcher, but with the s pen it makes it so much more precise to direct your lines and fill color.
I drew Bowser yesterday and it came out a lot better than I thought it would. I would have done more, but it was telling me I was running out of ink lol.
I've been playing this game using my S-Pen. The stylus is a godsend for this particular app. Unfortunately, the nanosecond delay in inputs makes it so that my drawings look really cheesy. If I draw something, what I draw doesn't appear instantaneously ... there's always a very slight delay, but that delay caused major issues for accuracy. I don't see any solution to this problem.
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Unfortunately, the nanosecond delay in inputs makes it so that my drawings look really cheesy...
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yea...that's it, that's why my drawlings suck too, the delay is inhibiting my artistic abilities to drawl stick figures.
Those pictures are epic! I'm jealous of people who can draw.
The stylus action isn't quite as good as a full blown Wacom tablet or a tablet PC with Wacom pen like an older LE1600 (which I have), but it's a lot better than an iPad or iPhone with a mushy capaci-touch type stylus. There's some okay accuracy styli on iOS, just not really pressure sensitive.
My understanding is the S-Pen will be better supported with ICS. As it stands, there's a handful of suitable pressure-friendly paint apps already, more soon I should think. Doodledroid and Hello Color Pencil are two good ones.
Of course, the Note display isn't huge, but I did a few decent drawings on my iPhone with just my finger, so this is a lot better by comparison.
I never got around to trying Draw Something until I got the Note, but now I've got a good addiction going.
I'm kind of torn on some of the images. On one hand, they are spectacular - on the other hand wondering how long it takes to make them. I would love to use the Note & this game to improve my drawing skills (of which I have none of), but I don't want to spend an hour doing a drawing either.
I think the part I like the most is seeing how a drawing is done. There is a screen saved I used to love watching called Drawing Hand (google it) where you watch the artist draw the image using just a basic pen tool and a smudge tool. Always wanted to emulate by learning, but I just don't have the art skill.
Hoping DS will improve my drawing skill some. So far, looks like all my friends are about the same stick figure level that I am.
Is there a sight to see some art done by people, preferably with a way to see them draw it? There a way I'm missing to start a drawing, then come back to finish it later?
BTW - they got bought by zynga (sp) for a rumored 200 million today (!)
If you guys love draw something, and want to post your pics, do so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592757

Display static and lines issue

I'm having display issue on my tab that was purchase as refurbished unit about a year ago. It was working fine last night and I turn it on this morning and it is completely jumbled
even with this messed up screen, it can still detect internet, login with my pw etc.
It also seems that screen doesn't flicker in portrait mode while it flickers in landscape mode
As far as I can tell, it seems like the displace has become out of sync (like how you monitor behaves if you have strong magnet near by)
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anyone have any suggestion to fix this? Like hard reset on the display or recalibration method?
Could you resize your photos? They are HUGE!
Was your Tab left plugged in to charge all night? If so maybe a power surge happened? I'm not sure if it can be fixed. I'm sure there are experts here that will chime in! Good luck!
it was not left plugged in...
if it was power surge, more than just display would go
guess XDA doesn't have many HW experts?
Palvati said:
it was not left plugged in...
if it was power surge, more than just display would go
guess XDA doesn't have many HW experts?
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There's no need to be rude. It's the weekend and people are busy. You need to be patient. Resizing your enormous photos so they are easily viewable might help too.
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Could you resize your photos? They are HUGE!
Was your Tab left plugged in to charge all night? If so maybe a power surge happened? I'm not sure if it can be fixed. I'm sure there are experts here that will chime in! Good luck!
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I misread this quote as "I'm not sure if there are experts here that will chime in!" as for HW experts
does most people read this forum using 3G connections? no one has ever ask to resize 3 photos taken from my phone camera on any forums. They are 3MB per picture. Is that considered big in this forum?
It happened out of the blue, so it appears to be a hardware issue. Better contact Samsung, as it may not be easy to fix.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
Palvati said:
does most people read this forum using 3G connections? no one has ever ask to resize 3 photos taken from my phone camera on any forums. They are 3MB per picture. Is that considered big in this forum?
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It isn't the file size, it's the resolution itself. Even on my 1080p desktop, they are nearly twice as wide as the monitor.
Make sure to resize them to a "standard" resolution.
Nicocolton said:
It isn't the file size, it's the resolution itself. Even on my 1080p desktop, they are nearly twice as wide as the monitor.
Make sure to resize them to a "standard" resolution.
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really?
it auto re-sizes to about 640x480 to 8000x600 on my firefox
resized, better?
someone from another forum suggested that it seems like connection btw screen and board seems to be loose. Plausible, but not sure since it didn't receive any big shock from time I went to sleep till I got up
Any other suggestions?
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Any other suggestions?
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Your tab has secretly been dropping acid?
Seriously though, this looks a bit like an issue a Samsung TV my parents own developed.
The fault was determined to either be the LCD panel itself or the cable connecting to it but since the two were one integral piece and the TC was out of warranty, it was cheaper to replace it than try and have it fixed, so we never got to the bottom of it.
If your tab's still under warranty, you'd be best sending it back to Samsung and letting them have a look.

Samsung EE-CP90

Just saw that Samsung is selling the EE-CP905 Bluetooth keyboard (Pic below). Kinda like the leather look and the fact that it's thin. The Logitech one seemed nice, but too thick. Anyone have any experience with this keyboard?
Here in the Netherlands it's being offered for around 129 euros, which seems a bit too much. Is it worth it? Any reviews, pros, cons?
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I purchased this keyboard with my Note 12.2 a couple of days ago. I have been using it pretty regularly over the last couple of days while setting the tablet up. So far I like it very much, it has been the best Tablet keyboard I have used so far and it really responds well to the tablet.
GTablet said:
I purchased this keyboard with my Note 12.2 a couple of days ago. I have been using it pretty regularly over the last couple of days while setting the tablet up. So far I like it very much, it has been the best Tablet keyboard I have used so far and it really responds well to the tablet.
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Any pros/cons?
Basically it doesnt protect the back of the tablet right?
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blue13x said:
Any pros/cons?
Basically it doesnt protect the back of the tablet right?
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NO it does not protect the back of the tablet; it works as a front shell & keyboard. I can tell you this that this keyboard is hard to find, it is not on the Samsung Website and I think it is a limited run item that was produced for the launch of the tablet. Chances are if you do not get one now you may never see it available again.
It pairs easily to the tablet; it stays connected very well and it responds instantly even when you have not touched the tablet for a couple of hours. You have only one angle in which the tablet is held into the keyboard; however it is at the perfect angle for viewing the tablet while working. They keys are low profile but they feel very solid and I have not found any issues with this keyboard so far.
Again... I have only had it for a couple of days so this information is based on what I know so far!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707316
It's nice, I am keeping mine. The only real downside to me is that I do not like using the note without a case, and you cannot just flip the note over and have it still lock in place on the keyboard. That said, it does work well with any case which leaves the bottom of the Note open (like the Moko). Far superior to the Zagg.
blue13x said:
Just saw that Samsung is selling the EE-CP905 Bluetooth keyboard (Pic below). Kinda like the leather look and the fact that it's thin. The Logitech one seemed nice, but too thick. Anyone have any experience with this keyboard?
Here in the Netherlands it's being offered for around 129 euros, which seems a bit too much. Is it worth it? Any reviews, pros, cons?
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I paid $88 for it here in the US. I purchased it on-line from B&H Photo and Video (free delivery). It is much sturdier than the zagg keycase cover that is being sold by Best Buy. I think it is great. It forms a protective case for the tabley. Has the same faux leather covering. The only drawback is that it is not true docking keyboard. But for what it is, I think it is great.
It comes bundled in México in the 32gb SM-P900 even the package show it in the picture, it's a great product, serves as a nice cover for protect the screen and a great dock, the faux leather finish is the same of the tablet back.
Hi
I know it's an old thread but I just bought the keyboard, tested it a bit and I was wondering if anyone had an idea how to disable the word tips that display in the bottom of the screen while typing. I make very few mistakes and don't really need it. the problem is that the top of the screen is cut off a bit because of that otherwise it wouldn't bother me much
paolo200 said:
Hi
I know it's an old thread but I just bought the keyboard, tested it a bit and I was wondering if anyone had an idea how to disable the word tips that display in the bottom of the screen while typing. I make very few mistakes and don't really need it. the problem is that the top of the screen is cut off a bit because of that otherwise it wouldn't bother me much
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I guess It depens on the application you use. I don't have such suggestion bar when I do mail and wordprocessing.
aviator1 said:
I guess It depens on the application you use. I don't have such suggestion bar when I do mail and wordprocessing.
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I was using Chrome I didn't try other apps. There is a way to disable it in the settings but it's for all keyboards and not just the hardware one

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