Inaccurate stylus? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I just noticed my stylus is pretty inaccurate... is this a defect? should I return it?
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There's a setting for left or right handed user... maybe its that?
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I'm right handed and it's set to right handed.

Right handed they should be pretty accurate. I'm a left and yes it is not accurate for me even when swithi to left handed in pen options.
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My stylus is off too. As I believe are everyone's. They're not perfect.
Unless it starts acting funky with random drawing you're not doing your device is probably in perfect condition.

I'm also right handed and mines off about that much as well. Wish there was calibration for the spen in the settings.

I read somewhere there's a way to calibrate the stylus..it was a link within a post..maybe someone can help me find it
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KosanRio said:
I just noticed my stylus is pretty inaccurate... is this a defect? should I return it?
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its normal.. annoying but normal... all the samsung demo units were like that and i talked to one of the samsung lead reps at our at&t training and he said thats the way the wacom digitizer is...

That's just how it's going to be on a capacitive touch screen...at least for now. Although this screen can read pressure, it's still not going to be as accurate as the old resistive screens were, which were entirely pressure based. (See Nokia N900).

wundrbread33 said:
That's just how it's going to be on a capacitive touch screen...at least for now. Although this screen can read pressure, it's still not going to be as accurate as the old resistive screens were, which were entirely pressure based. (See Nokia N900).
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Uhh no this is a Wacom digtizer that's under the screen, that's not a capacitive stylus.

I found a trick in another thread (can't remember where now). Write squiggles like you're trying to get a dried pen working, and make sure they hit the four edges of the screen. Fixed my calibration right up.

Tilt your pen down and towards the right bottom corner (if set to right handed) and it will be accurate. You can test it out yourself.. make a series of dots as in the original picture, only do each dot with the pen angled differently and you'll see that the more you hold it like you're using a pencil, the more accurate it will be. If you hold it straight up and down it will be off by a few millimeters as pictured.

I posted on this in the international Note forum. The sensor is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the sensor based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. Here's the pic I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19882339#post19882339

*#0*# in dialer and pick stylus and trace the big box until its all green
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Dsmforlife92 said:
*#0*# in dialer and pick stylus and trace the big box until its all green
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I thought that was just to check if they S Pen is working.
JoeDV said:
Tilt your pen down and towards the right bottom corner (if set to right handed) and it will be accurate. You can test it out yourself.. make a series of dots as in the original picture, only do each dot with the pen angled differently and you'll see that the more you hold it like you're using a pencil, the more accurate it will be. If you hold it straight up and down it will be off by a few millimeters as pictured.
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Yep that is exactly what the Samsung rep told me as well. It's all how you hold it.

maxh said:
I posted on this in the international Note forum. The sensor is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the sensor based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. Here's the pic I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19882339#post19882339
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So I am confused why is it you don't even need the Pen in S-Memo and it works with your finger.

Earthsdog said:
So I am confused why is it you don't even need the Pen in S-Memo and it works with your finger.
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The phone in essence has 2 touchscreens, one on top of the other: a capacitive one that works with your finger, and a wacom digitizer that works with wacom technology pens.

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Comes with a screen protector, home and car chargers, stylus, silicon skin, and hard case.
Just thought I should share the deal.
Too bad it doesn't include a 3.5mm adapter...
I guess the, Universal Touch Screen Stylus Black, is a bonus since you can't use a stylus on the G1. lol
Mikey1022 said:
I guess the, Universal Touch Screen Stylus Black, is a bonus since you can't use a stylus on the G1. lol
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Was going to say the same thing. LOL... what's the point of a stylus?
momentarylapseofreason said:
Was going to say the same thing. LOL... what's the point of a stylus?
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I guess while using your right hand to navigate the G1, use the stylus, in your left hand to scratch that itch on your back with it??
Do not try this while driving
I believe the stylus is made specifically for the G1 and iphone. its not the same ones that other pressure sensitive phones have.
There are stylus' out there with the electrons needed for capactive touch screens to work (iPhone, G1, etc). I'm not entirely sure how they work, I assume it would need a battery... but maybe not.
Gary13579 said:
There are stylus' out there with the electrons needed for capactive touch screens to work (iPhone, G1, etc). I'm not entirely sure how they work, I assume it would need a battery... but maybe not.
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Guess you are right
http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php
However, highly doubt that the one from the OP is such an animal
Well it does say that the stylus works on the iPhine, too...
I had JUST been thinking 'wtf, why hasn't anyone made a conductive stylus?', and then I saw this post. Thanks!
And if you don't want the combo, but are getting g1 stuff, coupon code htcg1access saved me $17.70 off $58.91 of G1 stuff! It's like 30% off!
UPDATE AFTER RECEIVING THIS!!!!
Stylus DOES WORK!!! It does work with more force lol
To grag an icon or let alone drag it across the screen it iffy. Rubber on the screen. You can imagine.
Silicone "case" is ok. Could have been snugger.
Hard case it good once is it all clicked in but it makes the phone a whole lot bulkier. If you buy the clip seperately, it can be attached to your belt.
Chargers, can't have enough
Screen protectors, love them
So for the money, yeah its worth the package.
****, seriously? It doesn't work? Do you have an iPhone to test it on?
I had my mother order this because she can't stand not using a stylus. Looks like it's getting sent back.
Gary13579 said:
****, seriously? It doesn't work? Do you have an iPhone to test it on?
I had my mother order this because she can't stand not using a stylus. Looks like it's getting sent back.
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I tried the "Stylus" again today. It does work with more force.
Hard to drag or slide across the screen though.
It's rubber that gives way. A pencils earaser form type.
does the hard case fit snuggly all around? i had one that i sent back because the bottom left side edge doesn't clip onto anything and came up a bit.
the whole set is in 3 pcs.
The back part
The screen part
and the keys part
the keys part locks into the back part, tightly
the screen part locks onto the the sliding part of the phone
What does the camera/speaker hole look like? I hope it's not a heart... >_<
It is, how else are you gonna get the lens and mic not covered lol
I thought I would be like the T-Mobile hard case:
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[Q] Touchscreen for writing

Hi guys!
Got my Transformer Prime about 2 Weeks ago. Nice Device. Fast, smooth and good looking!
But i`m looking into using a stylus for notes in pdf documents. I have invested in a Jot Stylus Pro which is said to be the best passive stylus on the market. It works nice on the Ipad2 and ok on the HTC Desire.
On the Transformer Prime I got alot of dead spots. With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
Having such a good Atmel Touchsensor i thought the TFP should have got rid of the wobblyline problem.
is there a fix? Is the Ipad the only device that gets it right? Something Android would be sooo nice! I really dont want to write every word in the size of the TFP`s full screen.
Or will the Atmel Active Stylus be on the market soon? Did anyone try that yet?
Thx guys!
found this a second ago... Active Stylus will not work with TF201! In the first answer the guy says that it is a hardware incompatibility! And as we see with other things...
Asus will probably not unlock bootloader... so there is no chance to work around... Asus has no interest in helping us... I hope they learn something out of this.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=378757848808058&id=121682197848959
phasA said:
With root and TouchscreenTune i was able to fix that. but the wobbly lines kill every productive energy I got.
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Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.
vitalij said:
Have you tried playing with Settings->Filter Off value in TouchScreenTune (top right corner button)? You have to check Disable filtering box before changing that value, and after changing hit Apply button.
People have reported, that by choosing correct value, wobbly lines effect could be minimized.
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No.
It is not possible, not even with TouchScreenTune, to correct or minimize the wobbly lines.
To verify. Set the width of the linedrawing tool to minimum. Place a ruler on the screen at an angle of 45 degrees. Slowly while applying even presure draw a diagonal line along the ruler (preferable using a stylus). This will produce a wobbly line.
I tried almost every notetaking or drawing program and almost every tweaking tool available. Unfortunatly to no avail.
I have asked Gary whether this is a hardware or software issue waiting on the reply.
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Same in here. As a result of many positive and praising reviews about the jot pro, I've gone ahead and bought one. It was a huge disappointment because of too much skipping issues. I am wondering if there is another stylus that may work with TP fine for handwriting.
I'm interested in this thread.
Hopefully someone can post the best settings for TST. I've tried 30 and 85 for sensitivity and flickering, but I'm still not impressed.
C'mon T'former and Jot Pro.
Pretty sure s/w can fix it, but I don't know for sure.
Red is slow, even pressure with my stylus.
Green is quicker, even pressure with same stylus.
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I think this is just capacitive screens in general isn't it, the way it tracks your finger? Since it's just a grid of "dot" sensors, when you move slowly you're bouncing from closest dot to closest dot, when you move quickly it just does more of an A to B kinda thing? I don't know much of these things.
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So much better on my phone... Maybe just because of the smaller screen though?
Testing touch screen
THis test was done by cnet on smart phones but I think the principle is the same for tablets.
cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10431635-269.html
Nice link, can someone else post a similar picture of their prime with the drawn lines. Maybe before and after touchscreen tuning.
Cheers

Please tell me this can be fixed!

I don't even know what to call this... if It can't be fixed I'm taking this phone back and getting an SII immediately.
Basically when tapping your fingers on the screen near each other it will randomly think you're touching somewhere in between those two points, like how it did on old single-touch resistive touchscreen. It makes it complete HELL to type on when using the portrait keyboard.
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And obviously if yours isn't doing this please do tell!
Not sure if mine is doing this, but i do have problems with the keyboard. Put it off as being my fat fingers but never had that many problems with my thrill. Is there a screen sensitivity option in settings?
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I seem to have good days and bad days. No problems typing, even typing fast. Then other days it will contantly mis-interpret my presses resulting in garbled words. Like you I thought it was just me with fat thumbs.
I couldn't get the S Note app (that is what you're showing, right?) to multitouch at all, only got input when I tapped with one finger.
Multitouch Tester in the market I got 6 input points, maybe could do more but I was running out of fingers
Does it do it only when typing? How about on a drawing app, does it do it then? If only on the keyboard then the first step is to download, enable, use a new keyboard and see if that helps.
Does it only happen when you have it plugged in and charging? That happened to me and it baffled me until i realized it only happened while i was charging it. Ended up being the wall adapter. I used a touch screen test where it shows all the inputs and it was just pressing everywhere. I dont know what the wall adapter has to do with the touchscreen but it was 100% certainly causing the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x__jdlGXyjk
It could be the app trying to "ignore your wrist" and only allow for "pen input" this is what some apps do for the iPad...
Thremix said:
It could be the app trying to "ignore your wrist" and only allow for "pen input" this is what some apps do for the iPad...
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Yes but it does it while I'm typing in any app. I'd try to take a screenshot of it doing it while typing but that would be nearly impossible.
Seriously is anyone else experiencing this? just pull up your keyboard in portrait mode in something and tap the "F" and "H" key with each thumb, it will randomly think you're hitting "G"
Portrait...Fhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhf
Stylus....Fhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfgfhfhfgfhfhfgf
Landscape...fhfhfhfhfhfhfhffhfhf
Stylus...fhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfh
Stylus portrait again...fhfhfhfhghfhghghfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfgfhfhhghghghgh
I am no good with measurements but the pen is barely off the screen but it registers it as a g
When this happens are you using your pen or hands...you may have a defective pen. ..or yor screen is too sensitive.
That or you just are not very accurate
Is there a screen protector or case on the phone? Have you tried any other keyboards from the market.
If it is happening with the pen this is a known issue discussed in another thread....there is supposedly an update rolling out to correct it
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I'm using my fingers with the default Samsung keyboard.
Confirmed. Does not matter which keyboard I use. In S Memo I can consistently create "lines" by tapping two fingers close to each other. I tried turning XT9 and/or Keyboard sweeping on the Samsung keyboard makes no difference.
It seems like if I rotate between the two keys faster than 200ms, it detects the key in-between.
I do notice the same thing. It is more noticeable if you open a keyboard and hit two letter next to each other as fast as you can or even two letters with one in between it will get confused and not know what is going on.
For instance:
F+H hhhffffffhfffffhh
It missed probably 30 letters going full speed.
G+H hh
It missed all but 2 out of approximately 50
Q+P qpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqp
Didn't miss a beat.
It does seem to have some problems with input that is close together.
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Up until you pointed it out though i hadn't noticed it being an issue so as far as my use goes it isn't an issue. I type pretty fast and its able to keep up with me with only the occasional funky auto correct.
My only complaint with the phone is the accuracy and lack of sensitivity to the s-pen.
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I saw a few posts in the intl Note forums about sensitivity issues that were addressed in recent updates (mid-late Feb). Between this and the s-pen, looks like there is a more general problem not about the s-pen at all, just overall responsiveness that's more apparent when using the pen.
h0tw1r3 said:
I saw a few posts in the intl Note forums about sensitivity issues that were addressed in recent updates (mid-late Feb). Between this and the s-pen, looks like there is a more general problem not about the s-pen at all, just overall responsiveness that's more apparent when using the pen.
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Makes sense, there is obviously a calibration and sensitivity issue going on. I wonder if it has to do with the screen size without the tablet Android OS. I'm not an Android dev though so I'm not sure how that all works.
I really need to start doing phone development so I can contribute around here. I already do windows, Web, database, and iOS. Adding Android would be fun
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Seriously is anyone else experiencing this? just pull up your keyboard in portrait mode in something and tap the "F" and "H" key with each thumb, it will randomly think you're hitting "G"
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All good over here.
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So you guys think this is a hardware issue? or is it software than can be fixed? I'm so close to just returning my Note before the 30 days is up and exchanging it for an SII or an SII Skyrocket... or god forbid an iPhone 4S...
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So you guys think this is a hardware issue? or is it software than can be fixed? I'm so close to just returning my Note before the 30 days is up and exchanging it for an SII or an SII Skyrocket... or god forbid an iPhone 4S...
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Definitely software IMHO
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Cracked trim/bezel.

Anybody else experience this?
I'm 99% sure I didn't do this, as I haven't dropped my phone (yet).
CPW are being awesome and are going to replace it for me, phew!
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that button looks messed up as well.
ur homescreen button looks ugly...
Have you had it in your back pocket?
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Have you had it in your back pocket?
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No never put it in my back pocket, always side pocket with nothing else.
Home button is fine, a little bit of grime picket up by the camera.
I also have a crack, and i never dropped my phone
I have the exact issue at the exact same spot. Found the crack a few hours after opening the package. Sent my phone back to Expansys. I will get the replacement today and hopefully the new one doesn't have this crack.
In a Portuguese forum I've seen 2 or 3 guys with cracked bezel. They bought from expansys.
Disappointed!
Ouch!!!!!
Please nooo!! Not another manufacturer flaw!! I escaped from a Sony Xperia S (famous yellow tint on bottom of screen).
I could live with a modifiable software glitch but not that!!
Glad i don't have one of those!
hopefully any type of design flaws will be ironed out by the time they launch here in the states. that is not good, though.
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hopefully any type of design flaws will be ironed out by the time they launch here in the states. that is not good, though.
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I have the same thing as well i guess.
I''ve got two very fine cracks in the bezel, I'm not bothered by them enough to send it back to cpw, but not impressed.
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I''ve got two very fine cracks in the bezel, I'm not bothered by them enough to send it back to cpw, but not impressed.
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if you mean the ones on the bottom corners thats just a line from the moulding
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if you mean the ones on the bottom corners thats just a line from the moulding
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There are four of them. Two on bottom and two on top corners. These are not cracks but that's how it has been manufactured.
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There are four of them. Two on bottom and two on top corners. These are not cracks but that's how it has been manufactured.
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Exactly. My note has them too, those are normal.
But the cracks that we see above they are not normal.
I hope that mine arrives with 0 problem. I hate to replace my phones. Specially the expensive ones. Don't like to see a expensive thing with faults.
It certainly would appear to be an issue. I just hope they came with the crack, and not that they develop over time.
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I'm not talking about those. There are two cracks by the volume rocker, one almost not visible between the rocker and the screen, the other is about a 1cm down and much more visible. There is no looseness there so not too bothered.
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Dear,
I also have the same CRACK at same LOCATION near the volume rocker!
Something about the curved screen perhaps?
I had the exact same problem on my s2 before I bought this, I had 6 cracks on three sides of the phone, never dropped or looked after poorly. Kept in a case in my front pocket with nothing else. Samsung didn't want to know about it either. Said I must have dropped it.
Hope this doesn't happen to this too. Will be the last Samsung I buy if it does.
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Backlighting issue

Has anyone noticed that the bottom edge of your DNA has a slight 1-2mm shadowy area where the backlight is dim as well as random areas along the sides (this is not the capacitive light bleed which most units all have, which I don't consider a big deal)? I've had numerous replacements and all have exhibited these issues including a few Verizon store units. I find it surprising that this hasn't been reported upon in any reviews. It's fairly annoying on white and light colors, the majority of what I use the phone for (side-by-side with my 4s, the 4s has even lighting to the edges). I also checked out the HTC One in an AT&T store and couldn't see these issues, so it looks DNA rather than HTC specific.
It's a bit hard to make out from pictures, but it is visible.
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Here is a more obvious example along the side:
I guess I'm one of the few who is bothered by stuff like this. Otherwise, this phone is sick.
Infinite Jest said:
I guess I'm one of the few who is bothered by stuff like this. Otherwise, this phone is sick.
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No, your one of the few whose phone has that issue.
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No, your one of the few whose phone has that issue.
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I've literally had 10 replacements with the same issues.
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I've literally had 10 replacements with the same issues.
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that sucks you must be getting bad batches. Here's a pic of mine attached below, also I am extremely near sighted to the point where i can see the pixels on this phone no problem taking off my glasses and getting close. I can not find on a white background any light lvl differences. Id try another store to get your next replacement from or something.
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that sucks you must be getting bad batches. Here's a pic of mine attached below, also I am extremely near sighted to the point where i can see the pixels on this phone no problem taking off my glasses and getting close. I can not find on a white background any light lvl differences. Id try another store to get your next replacement from or something.
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If the top of that pick is the bottom of the phone, then I can see the dim area, but you're right about the sides looking uniform. I wonder if the refurbishment process introduces issues along the long sides.
yeah they all have it dude. most people just don't see stuff like us lol i know exactly w hat you mean but it doesn't bother me..
now how about this...turn your phone at an angle and look straight down to the top, and notice on the left and right of the verizon logo these 2 black squarish looking spots? lol
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If the top of that pick is the bottom of the phone, then I can see the dim area, but you're right about the sides looking uniform. I wonder if the refurbishment process introduces issues along the long sides.
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That is the top not the bottom you can see on the bottom where the camera picks up the buttons light bleed.
jayochs said:
yeah they all have it dude. most people just don't see stuff like us lol i know exactly w hat you mean but it doesn't bother me..
now how about this...turn your phone at an angle and look straight down to the top, and notice on the left and right of the verizon logo these 2 black squarish looking spots? lol
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that's probably the foam between the screen and buttons lol.
jayochs said:
yeah they all have it dude. most people just don't see stuff like us lol i know exactly w hat you mean but it doesn't bother me..
now how about this...turn your phone at an angle and look straight down to the top, and notice on the left and right of the verizon logo these 2 black squarish looking spots? lol
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Yeah, man; it's a curse. I'm one of those who notices the digitizer when the display is on as well.
Because of those lights, I think the top 1/8 of the screen is a bit brighter than the rest as well, especial if you're viewing in landscape. If you do the same on the bottom, you see nothing, like they didn't put any LEDs there. The inconsistency I've noticed along the sides isn't the exact same between any two phones (I've had a number of replacements mostly due to other issues). I bothers me pretty much any time I use the browser, maps app, texting, or anything like that, but I think i'm slowly getting used to it. From what I can tell of hands on time with the HTC One, it looks like they've mostly avoided this in that model, if not because of a larger bezel to hide the diffuser/LEDs in.

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