Help rooting s4 if needed - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've rooted most of my phones before this one but now I've got an s4 with 4.3 and was wondering if I even should root I love having complete administrative control of my phone plus it unlocks a world of other possibilities just weighing my options please help
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Galaxy S3 SIM unlock question

At some stage ill be selling my Galaxy S3 and purchasing a Sony Xperia Z or maybe a Galaxy S4 depending if it doesn't have plastic casing.
Anyway I'll most likely have to flash the stock ROM but I'm just wondering if it will remain unlocked to all networks, before I installed the Galaxy sim unlock it was locked to 3 Ireland, it's always more appealing to potential customers when they see a phone is unlocked, i assume it will stay unlocked but just to be sure though I'd ask on here.
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Does anyone know this for sure as I don't want to be in a situation where I am selling the phone as being unlocked to all networks and it turns out it's simlocked!
I would assume this galaxy unlock still works even after the completely reverting to stock?
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So disappointed with Verizon S4

It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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Dubbsy said:
Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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+1. And yes locked bootloader sucks the big ones
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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In most places Verizon has the best service. While traveling your less likely to experience drops with Verizon. AT&T also locked their bootloader. I'm not a Verizon fan but if I'm going to have a cell phone I'd like to have service wherever I go.
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
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Im not considering leaving vzw until they tear my unlimited away from me.
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agreed
I switched to verizon from att and got this phone even with the bootloader locked its fine just a minor annoience hopefully they will unlock it at some point.
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sokrboot said:
We are just a few little steps away from a functioning SafeStrap, so you can root, debloat and run custom ROMs. We just cant unlock the bootloader or run custom kernels yet.
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Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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Can someone explain to me the benefits of an unlocked bootloader? Custom ROMs have been a pleasure to run, but I guess a free bootloader adds to it?
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I love this phone long time.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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Agreed. I just switched to Verizon from Sprint and fortunately I'm on MDK but I'm not down with these policies going forward. For the locations I spend 99.9 percent of my time in, T mobile has nearly equal coverage and fewer dropped calls in my area. I'll be migrating to T mobile at the end of my contract on in the event I hose my phone and can't stomach being on ME7.
Dubbsy said:
Not hating on SS because it's a valuable tool for those who can't do it other ways. But you certainly are not debloating anything by leaving a full stock install in a "safe partition" and then running your choice of other ROMs.
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True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wish I never signed up with Verizon. After my two years I'm going back to tmobile they got unlimited data plan and all cheap.
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Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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decaturbob said:
Locking phones down is the norm now...I chose carrier by coverage and signal. If im lucky to have a phone I can root and customize..I consider tht an added plus
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I don't know about "the norm." But I do agree that coverage and signal are most important and fortunately VZW isn't the only game in town with decent coverage. However, I've been modding phones since 11/2007 and it's something I enjoy. I'll be dammed if I stick with a carrier who aims to prevent me from enjoying one of my hobbies.
mlin said:
True, but with root can't you pretty significantly debloat the "safe" partition?
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With root you can debloat the stock install and move data apps to system to save previous data space.
But im unsure as to how much you can do to your safe partition with SS because it's intended to be your safety net when you screw up.
warchyld77 said:
I will never talk bad about guys like Hashcode! Dudes like this make it possible to truly have control of your phone! What gets me is so many others just abandoned ship and moved on. I can't wait for my S4 to be good again
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I wasnt talking bad. If you think I was you need your head examined. I personally don't want to use it but I feel it's an extremely valuable tool for many.
I only won't use it because I don't want or need a safety net. Id rather use that space myself. And since I am on mdk I have that option.
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warchyld77 said:
It's just like Verizon to lock the bootloader! What ever happened to having freedom?!? I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm leaving Verizon. The only good thing I can see for them is this edge program but everyone is getting it so why stay?
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I hate the lock too
I love my S4 personally, but that's because I got it early when the Loki exploit worked. I don't like Verizon, though, but I'm on a plan with my parents still so I can't complain since I'm not paying. I plan on switching to T-Mobile and staying off-contract after I leave my parents' plan.
It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
I AGREE...
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It is my opinion that the locked bootloaders showing up amongst carriers is a result of people bricking their phones and returning them for warranty replacement. I think the locked bootloaders make that much more difficult to do on accident. It is not difficult to see that carriers monitor XDA and see what people do.
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I agree 100%!

ROOT / SU Question / Mega 6.3 / USA / AT&T

Anyone,
I'm not an android noob, but I left Android a few years back (2.3.3 / 2.3.4) due to work changing to iPhones for data encryption reasons. I came back to Android when more Samsung phones started supporting ODE (on device encryption). I would like to root my phone and have done so on other Android phone's using SuperOneClick, CWM, etc.
I am reading that there is a secure boot loader on the AT&T version of this phone in USA, so I am screwed in gaining root access to the device? I'd really like to delete all this bull**** bloatware they've installed... and a tethering app without using the carrier option.
Can anyone help?
I have the AT&T version as well. I'm not 100% sure that the bootloader is the reason for no root yet. Other phones have locked bootloaders and can still be rooted.
Running custom roms might be another story. I get the impression that because this is not a "mainstream" phone that it does not get top priority. For example, the Moto X on AT&T has a locked bootloader and that's rooted already, but it's a very popular phone.
Hopefully we'll get some love sooner rather than later. I would be happy with root along with an easy way to go back to stock.
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bulldank said:
Anyone,
I'm not an android noob, but I left Android a few years back (2.3.3 / 2.3.4) due to work changing to iPhones for data encryption reasons. I came back to Android when more Samsung phones started supporting ODE (on device encryption). I would like to root my phone and have done so on other Android phone's using SuperOneClick, CWM, etc.
I am reading that there is a secure boot loader on the AT&T version of this phone in USA, so I am screwed in gaining root access to the device? I'd really like to delete all this bull**** bloatware they've installed... and a tethering app without using the carrier option.
Can anyone help?
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No boot loader unlock, no root, so no custom ROMs as yet.
Be patient.
Mybe kernel needs to rebuild for the i527
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jpeps said:
Mybe kernel needs to rebuild for the i527
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Don't understand!
For the s4 they rebuilded the kernel for the bootload to work
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jpeps said:
For the s4 they rebuilded the kernel for the bootload to work
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Ok got it.
Root Mega 6.3 AT&T sgh-i527
There is root for Mega 6.3 i527 (not through odin yet) however use this link or thread topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46790725#post46790725 under Root Bounty For The I527 on xda. Hope this helps you if you haven't already seen this thread on here.
I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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PhilupBlunts said:
I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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It sure does and on the LTE bands
pa49 said:
It sure does and on the LTE bands
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Got mine yesterday and unlocked today and have 4g lte plus hspa all day long.... !!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't getting 4g/LTE at first but getting it in areas I wasn't getting 4g!!!
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shynn27 said:
I wasn't getting 4g/LTE at first but getting it in areas I wasn't getting 4g!!!
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Are you on Straight Talk?
No tmobile
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shynn27 said:
No tmobile
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I purchased the Straight Talk kit yesterday and you have the option of use Tmobile or AT&T by switching the sim card. if your bill it too high try Straight Talk.
Thx I thought about it but have 2 phones my second one is a s blaze but not unlocked so that person would lose out on service which is needed.
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It sure does and on the LTE bands
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Oh I didn't know it would with T-Mobile LTE bands. awesome.
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Do u get phone insurance on straight talk
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shynn27 said:
Do u get phone insurance on straight talk
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I dont know I always purchase my phones factory unlocked on ebay or Craigslist never actually from straight talk. I don't believe they offer it
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PhilupBlunts said:
I have a unlocked AT&T version. Im currently using straight talk with 4g but it works with tmobile as well.
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Does straight talk get lte on the at&t galaxy mega and is the upload and download speeds fast ? I have mines unlocked and wanted to know if I should jump ship from at&t and save money and go with straight talk?

Locked Bootloader? NOPE!!!

I have been hearing around the xda community that this wonderful device will be joining the blacklisted devices over at at&t and Verizon. I am referring to the bootloader. Any good news out there?
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Oops. Does this belong in questions and answers ?
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Yes it does go in Q&A.
There are working models at best buy. I'm not 100% sure how you would check...probably just boot into the bootloader and see what it says.
The T-Mobile version boot loader is usually unlocked.
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Think we will have to wait and see really.
Not sure when pre orders will ship, but we should be able to find out April 11th
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I'm not buying until I know for sure. Even then I might go with HTC since KNOX Security sucks.
I'm gonna tell T-Mobile as soon as I get mine that everything's working fine, don't want a replacement, but note that knox was already tripped when I got it. Ha ha
Not sure how they can dispute that later for warranty issues.
Even though I'm probably not going to root it or anything for a while.
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T-Mobile WILL have LOCKED BL
Guys here
This time around it looks like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile will have S5 with locked bootloader. (Only Sprint's S5 will have unlocked BL).
1. AT&T started with S4 and continued the tradition there after (G2, N3 etc.) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
2. T-Mobile started with LG G Flex and looks like it will continue the tradition with S5. (Source) (Also no dev edition AFAIK)
3. Verizon started who knows when? (At least verizon is nice enough to have Dev edition, albeit expensive as hell).
What does all this mean?
Well you can't have "traditional" custom recovery so that means NO ASOP, NO custom Kernels etc.
You can have a recovery called "Safestrap" which will allow you to flash only TW based ROMs and simple MODs such as bootanimations but nothing more.
That is possible.
Not a confirmation that the T-Mobile variant with be locked though.
With the most recent update to the s4 they could have made it locked but they didn't as far as I can tell. Just has knox on it.
Still will need to wait and see I guess.
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coming from a you s4
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Yup. I like the idea of a faster processor. Even if marginal. The finger print reader and water resistance.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Everyone knows development only really takes off after about 6 months to a year. Give the devs time to crack the possible locked bootloader.
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Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
Walter.White said:
Lol. Look at AT&T's N3 forum
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Or anyone who has taken the S4 MF3 or later updates...safestrap only. I dont know why ppl do OTA's these days its never anything to help us only to hinder us.
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I got a tmobile s4 and note 3 both with updated 4.4.2 bootloaders and they are not locked. what att do or verizon has nothing to go with tmobile. as far as the lg flex that was lg decision not tmobile as they are all locked. knox has nothing to do with a locked bootloader. I do not see tmobile locking the bootloader
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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chrisram88 said:
Tmobile decided to lock z1s bootloader. Trend is pointing in the wrong direction if you ask me. Hopefully they don't lock it.
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T-Mobile made Alcatel lock the OneTouch Fierce and they'll do it some more apparently.
T-Mobile Secure Lock.
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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TheArtiszan said:
Haven't seen that on any device so far and the article is almost a year old.
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Alcatel OneTouch line are because of Secure Lock, and are still modern phones they are selling. You have the burden of proof on your hands. I for one wouldn't buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5 before knowing 100% it's unlocked or unlockable. Besides... the Note 3 is still unlocked and quite a comparable device!
We'll see in a few weeks.

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My desire x is on its way to its final days so I got another got a good deal at £16 but its locked on Vodafone I want to unlock it to all networks and get root access can I do this and keep the sock 4.1.1 but removing the useless apps that come with it
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