Okay... initially i was on Custom Rom Jellybam based on Jellybean 4.2.1 with Siyah Kernel V5 sync.
I want to upgrade to Kitkat 4.4
so i downloaded all the required files , made nandroid backup , reboot the phone and started transferring all ROM files into internal SD card Sdcard0
I am doing all this is Linux Mint..
It started transferring and got stuck 33.2%
so i removed the cable and try it again and this time again it stucked again
and my phone reboots automatically ..
Samsung logo main screen shows and loading starts but after completing loading bar .. it Freezes there and i cannot boot into recovery either..
SO on searching on goggle for solutions .. it states that i have to flash kernel again through ODIN again in order to access recovery to do Factory Reset..
SO i did the same flashed siyah kernel v4.1.5
it shows its successfully flashed BUT on reboot it shows Yellow triangle and freezes there and i still cannot access recovery and it also freezes on battery charge animation
So i again try to flash using ODIN this time again with siyah kernel 6.b5
and still same problem ,, so pull out battery and leave for 5 minutes and again boot phone in download mode and flash again using odin siyah kernel 6.0b5 and upon Reboot PHONE does not Boot.. I was literally Shocked and i try to pull out battery .. put back in and Try to charge but it shows no animation nor it is going in download mode.
Please HELP ..
Suggest me some ways because 1 year before I've replaced the motherboard due to same problem caused by factory reset in stock ICS rom when There was Hard Brick problem in Stock ICS roms..but it was in warranty so there was no problem but this time its out of warranty..
I didn't do anything wrong and still it got HARD BRICKED and still not have a clue what went wrong ??
No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
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No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
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i know. this.. its TOO scary to hear this thing..
If anything is possible ?? Anything ??
i will give every info you needed..
And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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i'll go to samsung care tomorrow but i am still wondering what happened wrong as i did nothing wrong at all then still how it hardbricked ??
... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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the guide suggest to flash kernel so that i can wipe/data factory reset .. i tried that with odin but phone does not boot and freezes at Samsung logo when loading bar finishes... so i thought to flash stock ics rom but before doing that after flashing kernel again it reboot and hard bricked... and does not boot after all even in download mode..
So this happens after i flashed kernel 3rd time and i still have no clue why did it happened..
and customer care asks it would costs at least Rs.8,000 or $133 to replace a Motherboard.. which is too costly...
can anyone suggest me any other things.. ay alternatives ??
There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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hahah... i know .. people are sometimes too lazy to read ..
I just need to know.. what's wrong happened so that it will not happen next time..
Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
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Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
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well I've got my s2 since past 1.7 years and nothing wrong has happened till date as I've flashed plenty of ROMS earlier.. its nothing new to me.. i am well known to these things..
i have exams from 1 month and s2 was creating problems such as freezes while scrolling in any application and automatic reboot from many time
i have no time to solve this during exams..
so i tried to solve this issue yesterday by upgrading to new ROM.. downloaded ROM files .. and ready to transfer to internal sd where copying stuck at 33% 2 times and at 2nd time from where main problem starts.. of freezing at bootscreen and then i trty to solve by flahsing new kernel thriugh ODIN where Hardbrick was TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.. as I've done this earlier time too but nothing happened wrong that time... i was literally surprised that it does not boot at all even i didn't done any mistakes at all & followed procedure.. even ODIN every time shows "Flash Successful"
i've attached screenshot of ODIN flashing.. so you can check for yourself..
May be there is a possibility of battery dying and phone cannot charge the battery ??
i've no spare battery to check .. so will go soon to care to check if its battery problem or not..
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Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
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i totally understand what you wanted to say..
i now how to do these things.. i know the risks...
still don't know what happened wrong..
hey guys.. i just went to samsung care and they told me that PCB need to be replaced and it ill costs me INR 8,000 or $133.33 which is too expensive and i told them if any other thing can be done .. i see some videos in youtube stating DEAD or HARDBRCIKED S2 can be fixed by changing its POWER IC...
so i told them that thing then they told me that OFFICIALY only Motherbaord could be replaced however I can ask local reapir shops in my city whether they can replace POWER IC or any other such thing which will be cheap..
So i went to one of the Repair shop (MAIN one in my CITY) & i ask them .. after checking he said.. I'll check IF Repalcing POWER IC will solve the problem or not... otherwise Motherboard need to be replaced..
the cost of POWER IC replacement is INR 800 or $13.33
otherwsie
he'll replace the motherboard for INR 3000 or $ 30..
so i deposoited my Phone to him and will go again in 2 hours.. to check if POWER IC replacement will fix the problem or not..
I am wondering if it will be safe to do this from unofficial reapir centre whether he will not take orignal parts of my phone internals ? however every people go to his shop.... Motherboard repalcing by him costs only INR 3000 ($50) while officialy its INR 8000($133)..
why is there so much price difference..??
IF POWER IC replacement is good idea ??
i just don't want to be in another problem...
Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
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Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
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well i ask a local official samsung mobile shop onwer whom we knows from years ... he said.. he is the main person in our city and everyone goes to him for repair... and he thinks he won't do such as thing..
SO i gave my phone to him..
and about power IC replacment there are some videos on youtube i checked before asking for POWER IC replacement....
so thought may be it'll work.. :/
hope for the best..
anyways thanks..
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And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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What's up with the sarcasm? Pretty sure that's not what this forum is about.
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
So . the thing is IF POWER IC replacemet will fix the phone or not...i've done some googling and found that the POWER IC replacemet works for users..
If anyone here in this forum has tried this and successfuly saved his phone instead of replacing whole Motherboard.. ??
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
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dude please if anything irritates you .. then i'm sorry..
i ts just its first time happened with me...s i am worried about my phone..
that's all :/
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Hi,
I read and followed lots of excellent threads on here and successfully rooted my S2. I then flashed it with the Revolution ROM which worked fine, later tried the VK + Siyah which also ran fine.
Today I decided to try WajkIUI but after flashing and rebooting, the phone reset, the button lights came on and then it hung. Now I can't get a thing out of it, no booting, no recovery mode and no sign of it in ODIN.
It sounds completely hard-bricked but I don't really understand how it can be.
Any ideas?
Have tried soft and hard resetting but nothing.
Cheers
Without recovery mode your last best (remote) chance before you send it to Samsung would be a jig.
That's what I was thinking but why would it hard brick if the flash had worked?
And if I send if back to Samsung the warranty will be void anyway won't it?
Unfortunately that one's like asking how long a piece of string is (in other words, who knows ?). If it's a case of the NAND being stuffed as a result of the flash, a JTAG repair may fix it, but you won't know that until/unless you send it to a JTAG repairer.
It may be a hardware issue, cpu might have carked it or something.
Yeah, you've pretty much voided the warranty by putting non-stock firmware on it, but at the end of the day if Samsung can't tell it's been messed with you might get away with a warranty repair/replacement.
You'll only know that if you send it in to them to be looked at. So I guess you've got two choices to consider (not including the remote chance of the jig getting you into download mode).
I guess you could try another battery. Always the possibility it might have died.
Crap. Well, I'll give a jig a go and if that doesn't work then send it back and see what happens.
@ op
did you tried the key press combination to get into download mode? the things you have done has a very less possibility of hard brick.
That's what I thought, but no combination seems to work.
Was the battery full when you flashed?
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Think it was about 96%.
You never know, it might just be a completely knackered battery. If you're planning on getting it fixed come what may, spending 20 bucks or whatever they cost in your country on another battery won't be the waste of money you might initially think.
If it doesn't fix this problem, at least you'll have a 2nd battery when you do get it fixed. I know I've found having a 2nd battery a godsend since I got mine a month ago, has come in really handy on trips where I've been away for more than a day and has meant I haven't had to worry bout bringing a charger along.
Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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On that note....if I wanted to upgrade to ICS, how would that be done without rooting - ie. would the counter look the same? (Long shot)
Yeah if you're going to get it fixed, chances are you'll end up flashing/rooting it again, so the jig will come in handy.
I guess that's something you'll need to decide when you get it back/get a new one. What happened to you isn't the norm tho. The large majority of flashes go smoothly for most people. But the reality is, every time you do it, you do run that small risk of it barfing for any number of a gazillion reasons (which are normally impossible to discover once it's happened). That's the risk people like us who frequent sites like this take.
Yeah if they/Samsung can't tell what happened to it, you'll possibly get away with it. And the fact you rooted it isn't information you have to volunteer to them by any means As to exactly what you should tell them, that's up to you.
Edit to add - Let us know how you get on once you have it sorted. Always useful to have people's experiences on here to give other people it happens to some kind of idea of how it might go down.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Well, according to the boffins online I have to go into a store to see if they can repair it. Hopefully they won't be able to check whether it's been rooted or not instore. In fact, if they can't power it on, I don't see how they could.
Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
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Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
jje
Is that a bit of a flaw, for circumstances just like this?
And, does this mean that the USB jig has no chance of working - or is that the exact reason it might work?
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
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i thing jig can solve the problem
Hey guys,
The problem started last night, i had no sound coming from my speaker. After some checking i found that for some reason the phone was thinking that my headphones are always connected, even if they were in the other room. I tried reflashing it, and i couldn't boot up anymore. Tried flashing new kernel, nothing. Tried flashing stock firmware, nothing. The phone won't accept any firmwares. So i tried to REPARTITION with odin. And i think i got the wrong tutorial
My phone is a gt-i9100, and i repartition it with omap4_all_20110627_emmc.pit
In odin was like this:
pit file selected
auto reboot selected
re-partition selected
f.reset time selected
And start.....all done, green light but the phone won't power on, won't enter recovery/download.
Now what?
Posting questions in the general forum = bad
Flashing an I9100G .pit on an I9100 = worse
JTAG.
JTAG won't help you, because it is not bootloader corruption. Motherboard replacement will fix it.
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another one bites the dust
try JTAG anyway,cant hurt.
Oh your wording... too funny...
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firmware?
xSurgery said:
Hey guys,
The problem started last night, i had no sound coming from my speaker. After some checking i found that for some reason the phone was thinking that my headphones are always connected, even if they were in the other room. I tried reflashing it, and i couldn't boot up anymore. Tried flashing new kernel, nothing. Tried flashing stock firmware, nothing. The phone won't accept any firmwares. So i tried to REPARTITION with odin. And i think i got the wrong tutorial
My phone is a gt-i9100, and i repartition it with omap4_all_20110627_emmc.pit
In odin was like this:
pit file selected
auto reboot selected
re-partition selected
f.reset time selected
And start.....all done, green light but the phone won't power on, won't enter recovery/download.
Now what?
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Did you put a firmware in the PDA section? if not go here to get one - sammobile.com/firmware
last_pawn said:
Did you put a firmware in the PDA section? if not go here to get one - sammobile.com/firmware
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Dude, this thread was last posted in back in October before your post.
That, and it was already established he used a pit file not meant for his device, which is what went wrong.
try force download mode, you need some one to help u
pull out the battery press the home+power+vol down
let the other person put the battery back
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try force download mode, you need some one to help u
pull out the battery press the home+power+vol down
let the other person put the battery back
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I give up.
ctomgee said:
I give up.
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lol
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Bunch of boneheads (last_pawn & eraser0 I'm glaring @ you in particular).
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I give up.
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They probably are trying to help an iS**t guy now LMFAO
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Hi all,
so is there any progress on this issue?
I did not want to open a new thread because this thread explains exactly my situation and I am posting here because this thread did not help me.
I have since yesterday the same problem. I unfortunately also repartitioned my Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 with "omap4_all_20110627_emmc.pit" which actually is the wrong one.
(I know it is "stupid" but please do not explicitly state it in your replies, I am already aware of it.)
Is there a possibility fix this issue by repartitioning with the correct one?
Current Situation:
- My phone is not booting up
- not going into the download mode
- not going into the recovery mode
- if I plug into the PC with a USB cord, PC and Odin is not recognizing it
- if I try to charge it, I see no icon at all
- in short: it is dead
Solution I have found so far:
1- replace the motherboard
2- buy a usb jig
3- throw it away
So my question is about second (possible?) solution: if I buy a usb jib will I be able to use Odin to repartition with the right pit file? Did someone have experience or try this method?
I thank you all in advance for your replies.
Ibo
The jig more than likely won't work, but you may as well try one given they cost 1/3rd of sod all.
Option 1 tends to be the only way to fix the phone. And obviously option 3 is always possible (People who use the 'I'm going to smash it/throw it away/etc' line here tend to get ignored for the childish fools they are. We don't care what you do with your phone).
Edit -Yes, using a wrong PIT is the height of stupidity. Despite thousands upon thousands of warnings here/elsewhere not to touch PIT's unless you have a very specific reason for using one (0.000000001% of cases, you were not one of those people), people still do it.
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The jig more than likely won't work, but you may as well try one given they cost 1/3rd of sod all.
Option 1 tends to be the only way to fix the phone. And obviously option 3 is always possible (People who use the 'I'm going to smash it/throw it away/etc' line here tend to get ignored for the childish fools they are. We don't care what you do with your phone).
Edit -Yes, using a wrong PIT is the height of stupidity. Despite thousands upon thousands of warnings here/elsewhere not to touch PIT's unless you have a very specific reason for using one (0.000000001% of cases, you were not one of those people), people still do it.
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Thanks for your answer. I thank you just for the part where you have written "Option 1 tends to be the only way to fix the phone.". This was enough for me to hear considering your experience in this forum. For the rest:
1: What would you do if your phone is not booting up and shows the Samsung logo even you wait 1 hour? Assuming that you already used options in recovery mode and also used Odin to update PDA several times?
2: Then you found a tutorial which says this is for Samsung Galaxy S II no further specifics given other than I9100.
3: Different people have different sense of humor so I do not blame them when I see in many forums where they write throw it away. I think it does not make sense to overreact to such suggestions. For example I just laughed when I read something like this.
Best,
Ibo
1) If I'd tried everything (and I mean everything, over and over and over), I'd assume the NAND is stuffed, bite the bullet & have the motherboard replaced one way or another. I'd either find a 2nd hand one & have a local mobile repair shop/not an authorised Samsung repairer replace it for me, or if I couldn't find one I'd pay an authorised Samsung repair to put a new one in. Or I'd get a new phone.
2) Before I got my phone I did a lot of research/reading/learning. For over a month. When I got my phone, I did even more research/reading/learning. I didn't jump blindly in messing with my phone without knowing what I was doing. If I saw some dodgy tutorial that told me to use a PIT when everything else I'd read said not to touch except for a very specific situation, I wouldn't touch a PIT unless I was in that very specific situation. Knowledge is power & stops you doing silly/desperate things. It's like putting your hand on the stove when you've already learned you'll get burnt if you do.
3) I'm glad you found what I said amusing. That probably speaks to why you broke your phone in the first place. I was deadly serious. From where I sit, a $700+ piece of electronics is too important to me not to take its continued proper functioning very very seriously. I realise some people get a new phone every 6 mths or whatever or don't care. To me, that's wasteful.
Edit - If you're able to have it assessed cheaply/for free, it might (again, less likely than more) even be JTAG'able, but I wouldn't be spending a lot of money up front having it looked at given it's likely not to be.
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1) If I'd tried everything (and I mean everything, over and over and over), I'd assume the NAND is stuffed, bite the bullet & have the motherboard replaced one way or another. I'd either find a 2nd hand one & have a local mobile repair shop/not an authorised Samsung repairer replace it for me, or if I couldn't find one I'd pay an authorised Samsung repair to put a new one in. Or I'd get a new phone.
2) Before I got my phone I did a lot of research/reading/learning. For over a month. When I got my phone, I did even more research/reading/learning. I didn't jump blindly in messing with my phone without knowing what I was doing. If I saw some dodgy tutorial that told me to use a PIT when everything else I'd read said not to touch except for a very specific situation, I wouldn't touch a PIT unless I was in that very specific situation. Knowledge is power & stops you doing silly/desperate things. It's like putting your hand on the stove when you've already learned you'll get burnt if you do.
3) I'm glad you found what I said amusing. That probably speaks to why you broke your phone in the first place. I was deadly serious. From where I sit, a $700+ piece of electronics is too important to me not to take its continued proper functioning very very seriously. I realise some people get a new phone every 6 mths or whatever or don't care. To me, that's wasteful.
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1. It is nice to hear that in any case the motherboard should have been / be repaired. You are right that was an expensive try but even if didn't I had to let the motherboard repaired. It was written the same thing as you said: the motherboard should be repaired so why not try this option: yes awful but if you have no other option and you tried really everything, you just give it a try.
2. I have been using this Samsung Galaxy SII since a couple months after it is first launched (mid 2011) and did not have any problem so far, so I did not have any interest or reasons to learn about flashing or any advanced methods.
3. Sorry there is a misunderstanding there. I found amusing not you have written but when I saw on an android forum where they written whether let the motherboard repaired or throw away/sell parts and buy a new phone instead. This "piece of electronics" is too expensive not only for you, I think for many people including me. That is why I posted here before giving 125€ to an authorised Samsung repairer.
Best,
Ibo
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Edit - If you're able to have it assessed cheaply/for free, it might (again, less likely than more) even be JTAG'able, but I wouldn't be spending a lot of money up front having it looked at given it's likely not to be.
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Thanks for the tip. :good: I am now searching for it.
I just got a galaxy note for my galaxy nexus last night (traded) and I took it home and install goomanager and downloaded a rom that was "compatible" it saved to the directory that goomanager puts it in so I rebooted into CWMR and cleared cache / data etc then proceeded to install zip from SD Card. it started by saying flashing kernel 4% or whatever and then came back with an error. me being as bright as I am recently...I fixed permissions and rebooted thinking that it would at least let me back into recovery.
I now have a "Dead" note sitting on the floor infinitely "charging" so to speak its just plugged into the wall, Will not boot. Is there a way I can at least get it into Download mode? Hell stick a magnet on it to erase everything even?
I don't need another paper weight..I have an iPhone for that.
Can you boot into download? If so, use Odin to flash the correct kernel.
Can you boot into recovery? If so, flash the correct kernel.
If you can't do either one, your phone is bricked and you will need to send it for a repair. $50 and one week later you will have your phone back with stock 4.0.4 ICS rom. Its called a JTAG service, from www.mobiletechvideos.com. Many note user have gone there, from just this thing.
The jig that works with other phones 99% of the time won't work with the note.
Don't trust CWR. Get your roms from our developers.
Jig 99% Of the time won't work... you made that statistic up. If button combos aren't working it's definitely worth a shot, resistors are super cheap, especially compared to jtag which doesn't sound needed here yet.
And what do you mean. "Don't trust cwr get your roms from the devs here"?
That is a recovery... he didn't download anything with it, he used goomanager.
And even if he downloaded it from here...he would've flashed it in cwm... xda isn't a custom recovery...
So you tried holding the down volume button+ power to get it into download? Flashing a kernel will not remove your recovery/download mode unless you flashed a Rom not made for your device that installed something on said partition(s).
As for the jig...don't know statistics, but I am a one percenter. Worth a shot imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-lvaAop2w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Volume down and power, then when prompted volume up, for download mode.
And I'm also a "1% er" and my jig isn't homemade. Josh from mobile tech gave me one of his he sells on the site.
As nun said, the combos should work, they are in the bootloaders, flashing a kernel won't effect those unless says kernel is for a different device, then you wouldn't get a single thing outta the device at all, no charging screen, no bootloop. Nothing. Whatsoever.
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Volume down and power, then when prompted volume up, for download mode.
And I'm also a "1% er" and my jig isn't homemade.
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Right amigo 99% + 1% = 100%. You and Nunhugger are the only ones who said a jig worked for them. So actually its way higher than 99%. . . But you guys are ninjas. Your phone would probably reboot if you just told it to. I just wanted to kill the eventual jig question early.
And my response about CWR was because it sounded like he used the old app Rom Manager to see what was available. Clearly it was wrong so I told him not to trust it, and put in a plug for our developers.
When an update is released the forum gets slammed with complaints about bad flashes of incorrect kernels, and I have seen several members heal their phone by flashing the correct kernel. I just figured he was not accustomed to the button combos of the note and would get to that eventually. But if it was for the wrong device I wanted him to get his mind around the $50 and week wait.
Sheesh. . . decaf.
Well seeing that I can't Get into either mode and no button combos will work, I am assuming I need the JTAG. I figured an app like GooManager would have at least gave me the right roms for my device. it did say i717 but that could just be my memory playing tricks on me.
Man, I'm real sorry. But the JTAG service has been used by many, and with lots of positive comments. Good luck.
hahah thats okay, I mean its a great phone, definately not worth keeping in a draw collecting dust so I will go with the JTAG service. Thanks Guys!
You still have signs of life, it shows the charging animation, therefore your phone isn't bricked.
Do some searching on making a jig, I personally think it's well worth a try.
You could very well fix your phone for under $10 and have the satisfaction of accomplishing this yourself And have the know how to do it again...
It doesn't have the charging animation. just a dead black screen.
Then why did you say this?:
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I now have a "Dead" note sitting on the floor infinitely "charging" so to speak its just plugged into the wall, Will not boot.
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That's more than a little misleading...
Will not boot...could mean many things.
From a easily fixed bootloop down to a brick.
Saying it was infinitely charging made it sound less severe.
if it weren't for that line, I wouldn't have bothered to tell you to use a jig.
JTAG it is
cris, why do you need to experiment with finding the proper resistance? Why should there be any variability in that circuit? Perhaps that is why some users have used up as many as six usb port replacement parts.
By the way, my 99% statistic is, like my entire post, just my opinion, and strictly a figure of speech. If it were a fact I was quoting I would have included a footnote. Remember those painful things? Do we have to include disclaimers for any figure we use? Sorry to mislead anyone!
I said "dead" because its not necessarily dead because a JTAG thing can fix it..and I said "charging" because to the normal person who didn't know anything was wrong with said device it would look like it was charging. But anyhow. I'm sending the phone out this week. I just don't understand why all the phones can't be as open as the devices straight from google.
You're phone is dead.
JTAG is akin to zombie, the phone needs disassembled and a special rig is needed to hook to the motherboard and flash EVERYTHING back to the nand at the prebootloader level.
The I717 is pretty much just as open as a nexus as far as easily modified and rooted...
No locked bootloader even which nexus have though it's a single line in a terminal to unlock, that step isn't needed on this device.
Only thing that isn't as open is the hardware drivers.
You may have flashed an incompatible kernel for a DIFFERENT device... and that on any phone will brick you.
And ranger not sure if it's the circuits within the phones that vary from device to device, ands seem to require a more specific voltage across those pins to trigger download mode
Or, if It's the resistors that are the variable. They are only rated within a certain +/- tolerance the cheaper ones having a larger margin of error.
And lol yes I am a ninja, but I didn't do anything special to my jig at all, I got mine from mobiletechvideos, funny enough it's worked on 4 captivates, a vibrant, 2 note 1s, and an s3, but didn't work on an s2 I was fixing.
the one I got from Goomanager was probably for the i700 which shouldn't even be able to happen.
They have video proof of them fixing phones with dead black screens from exactly what happened to mine using the JTAG Method. As far as I am concerned this thread can be closed cause I got the answer to my question.
the JTAG rewrites basically everything anyways so it is being sent out later this week. Till then I'll use a blackberry or something...Take care guys hopefully next time you see me post it will be to help someone and not asking for help
You'll be up and running by next weekend. By then, lots of exciting development will be happening on the released rom.
I doubt it, I live in Canada and have to send it to the states. It probably be closer to the weekend. Unless I expedite everything.
So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
You can scramble the NAND so badly it has to be replaced if a flash goes bad/you flash something you shouldn't be flashing (or if you do dopey things like pull a USB cable in the middle of a flash), and the way that's done is by replacing the motherboard, so you can certainly cause damage that costs money to repair, but it can pretty much always be repaired one way or another.
I seriously doubt you could bork a phone completely beyond all repair via firmware/software & without physically damaging components.
No physical damage was made to the phone...
Assuming all the alien language things that you said ...so the worst case scenario...do you have any idea how much a new motherboard would cost?
Varies widely depending on country/how much labor costs in your country. Samsung don't sell new motherboards on their own, you can either pay an authorised service centre to put a new one in (most expensive option, you normally keep your existing IMEI), or you can get a 2nd hand board from a broken/'donor' phone (How much you'll pay for one again highly variable depending on how much someone wants for their busted phone, search eBay/Google) & either swap it into your phone yourself, or if you're not confident with that sort of thing pay a local mobile repair shop to swap the boards for you (least expensive option, your IMEI will change to that of the phone the board came from).
Edit - If what I said in my PP was 'alien', I'd suggest you shouldn't have been messing with your phone in the first place & should probably avoid same when you get it fixed as well.
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So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
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Long story short, Yes your device could be "Broken" in such a way that the only option is to replace the motherboard. You atleast tried reading and doing something, dude there are several thread regarding this matter try different strategies, try out your luck, ask questions, but don't get your hopes too high.
Sorry pal, I wish you the best of all the luck in this tiny planet of ours.
Edit : sorry I was too late, I actually started the reply almost after you posted it but I went away had a coffee then completed it.
Edit: lol to actually make a phone completely unrecoverable you might need a sledgehammer, no software related issue in the world can completely damage an electronic device(unless that software was related to triggering a nuke).
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Hello!
Bought a 9100 ( Ihave also a 9100, just for reserve) on bay for 45€,with a little broken frontglass, it is possible to go into download mode also recovery, I have also flashed with all possible rom ( 3 part + repart with pit) all the possible stuff......
RESULT NOTHING!
It does not accept the power button in recovery mode, and it restarts whole the time, as would the power button be non stop on...
PLEASE HELP!
Bin job unless you want to replace the motherboard.
Edit - Or...Perhaps replace home/power buttons first. There might well be a lot more things wrong with it hardware-wise than would appear to be the case.
MistahBungle said:
Bin job unless you want to replace the motherboard.
Edit - Or...Perhaps replace home/power buttons first. There might well be a lot more things wrong with it hardware-wise than would appear to be the case.
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"Bin job unless you want to replace the motherboard."
What do you mean with this? Bin job = Trash? :cyclops:
Flashing with odin and all the other stuff worked, but it tries to go in the os and break it up....
That's it. You seemed to get a successful Odin flash, yet it's still bootlooping. Which could mean any one (or maybe even a combination) of:-
1) NAND corruption (which would mean a motherboard replacement)
2) If you're lucky, replacing the power & home buttons might enable you to do a factory reset in recovery
3) I've had another thought in the 25 minutes since my last post - perhaps try to do a factory reset through ADB ? This may/may not be possible. How ? Lots of tutorials on here/Google search on how to use ADB. You're facing a lot of reading/research if you want to try this.
Or, it could be other stuff wrong hardware-wise which you don't know about at this point causing the problems, and none of the above may be possible. You're only going to if you try them. So....In order of cost to you, try 3 first, then 2, then you can decide whether 1 is going to be worth it. It might cost you what you paid for the phone again to source a 2nd hand motherboard (or more), plus labour if you're not confident enough to swap the board out yourself & have to pay someone to do it.
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That's it. You seemed to get a successful Odin flash, yet it's still bootlooping. Which could mean any one (or maybe even a combination) of:-
1) NAND corruption (which would mean a motherboard replacement)
2) If you're lucky, replacing the power & home buttons might enable you to do a factory reset in recovery
3) I've had another thought in the 25 minutes since my last post - perhaps try to do a factory reset through ADB ? This may/may not be possible. How ? Lots of tutorials on here/Google search on how to use ADB. You're facing a lot of reading/research if you want to try this.
Or, it could be other stuff wrong hardware-wise which you don't know about at this point causing the problems, and none of the above may be possible. You're only going to if you try them. So....In order of cost to you, try 3 first, then 2, then you can decide whether 1 is going to be worth it. It might cost you what you paid for the phone again to source a 2nd hand motherboard (or more), plus labour if you're not confident enough to swap the board out yourself & have to pay someone to do it.
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Well factory reset is not the problem, when im in the cwm recovery ( I flashed dorimanx 9.43 where a touch is in) i resetted all.
Reset, flash 3 part , not working, flashed 10 different rom with odin and directly in cwm.
I know I bought a *hit, I was blended of the screen logo, I thought it just stuck while the guy have done something wrong...
In that case you're stuck with 2, then 1.
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In that case you're stuck with 2, then 1.
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well i love to play with stuff that I bought wrong.... lets see..
cheers
Keep us informed how you go in this thread
Just sell the phone on immediately.Maybe some mug will think(like you did) it works/can be resurrected.
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Just sell the phone on immediately.Maybe some mug will think(like you did) it works/can be resurrected.
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nah thats not so fine, when I know there is a hardware problem, it will bring bad karma , well display is ok, so what I have seen may has the powerbutton a shorty, so we will see.
I dont think NAND, because formating and wiping and flashing in CWM worked, good. hey there is battery reserve too
BTW: iphone expert, Ive got a dead iphone 4 ( not mine) crawling around, searching a lot for a logicboard for this inhumane part
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well i love to play with stuff that I bought wrong.... lets see..
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I dont know what 3 part firmware Mistahbungle meant(maybe from Phistachio),but I read a thread yesterday from king_below_the_lord.Maybe try that as youve nothing to lose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35719424
As for selling the phone,all you say is "doesnt boot properly".Then let someone think they can fix it.You are doing nothing wrong,as the phone doesnt boot properly.
I could buy phones every day of the week,but I dont because of ones like yours,and I suspect loads of them have water damage.
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sh0ne said:
Hello!
Bought a 9100 ( Ihave also a 9100, just for reserve) on bay for 45€,with a little broken frontglass, it is possible to go into download mode also recovery, I have also flashed with all possible rom ( 3 part + repart with pit) all the possible stuff......
RESULT NOTHING!
It does not accept the power button in recovery mode, and it restarts whole the time, as would the power button be non stop on...
PLEASE HELP!
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It really looks like i say this to everyone, but before replacing your hardware and looking at "extreme caution" posts, have you tried nuking your phone? Search hawkerpaul s nuke and try it.
Edit: Just saw that you cannot press power button on recovery. Well then, try everything you can but i think your best bet would be selling it again, if you even buy buttons you will be losing more money, maybe you can open it and try repairing the button or find a workaround like pressing it manually tho.
well bought a s2 for 20€ with a defect screen ( good mainborad , FULL of data like pics.... ) resambeld all, not so dificult, sove samsung for that, and it works like a charm, and my wife (hardcore whatsapp & viber user) is happy too , installed infecteds cm 10.1 v2 , yesterday I saw it brings with my old 2000mAh Battery ( samsung original) 4h! of display! amazing!
Thanks for all guys!