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Hi All, I have been using the Xda for long time and I am a bit greed and I never register, yep that's right, hate plz come.
But anyway, I have used too many phones that I can't even remember.
Last couples of week, I got rid off my Nexus one and got A Razr, but the disparagement start right with the battery life!
First a few days, I was using only wifi, as one of my number does not has Web pack on it, and I notice a horrible battery performance on the device and I am
Later on, I activied my internet on phone and here comes my theory.
I notice the Wifi is always running for some reason on the background even if I set it as turn of when screen off, when I check the battery usage, it shows almost every second that wifi is on. That should not be right, it should turn it self off when screen off, and it is not doing that.
Second of all, later on, I noticed something like *WIFI* shows under battery usage, and I was thinking what the heck is that, cause there is another "WIFI" still showing, and also something called" .com.motorola.contact. something like that is waking the phone and using the wifi as well.
And there also something like"motorola.home" running and using wifi for ages. Very strange.
OK, then I went out today, yes, I most of the time stay @ home, na I am joking..
I am mostly in a place with WIFI, home, work place, and Uni. All wifi here and there. Today, I took train 3 hrs total out and back from Birmingham to London for those who like stories. it was 1:30 afternoon battery @ 80% then I listen to music for 1 hr and use whatsapp quite a bit(battery hunger app even on iOS)
On the way back I played GTA 3 for one good hour. and it is now 9PM, and 15% left, as later on I tweet a bit, web a bit. which is good, also I took underground so signal is not always there.
After all these my question is for those who had the battery drain, are U in a wifi enviornment quite a bit time and use wifi?
If so, set the wifi sleep policy to Never(this actually will help) and while not using wifi to use heavy data stuff, turn it OFF and see what happen.
Also turn off GPS espically if you have facebook on phone and also the using wirelsess connection for location, turn that off as well.
BTW the GPS on Razr is reallllllly fast on location, it took 5 second to find me from cold boot. Awesome.
And I don't use task killer or smart action, I think using sensor and active these sensor to save battery while they are using a lot juice is not so smart.
BTW: due to I am on and off subway, my iPhone4s dropped a good 15% without any use, it just sitting in my pocket. (as for now, Android is the fun bit, iOS is the backup, as it does hold battery better a bit...lol)
I am on 2.3.6 (651.167.19.XT910.retail.en.EU)
I flash the rom couple of times, it all shows me WIFI is doing some strange thing.
Today still draining and I use a data usage checker and find that moto blur is using a hug a mount of data, WTF!?
I find battery performance vastly better on wifi than 3G. Mine has had atrociously bad battery life recently, so I'm backtracking through stock ROMs to see if I can replicate the setup I got 5+ hours of screen-on time with.
Gotta love those updates. The sooner data works properly in custom ICS ROMs for the XT912, the better.
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before a week i got v3c with version want to extend battery does any one know if it comes with door ??
give us a link have a look? I am looking for the Maxx to replace on my normal razr
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I've been using SetCPU to create profiles on the ondemand governor and extrapolating from my general usage during commute, news/texts/im, fair amount of screen on time, I'm getting around 10% drain per hour which is fairly nice. With screen off and 3g running leaving the phone to idle, it drops to around 3-4% per hour which is significantly better from what I was getting right out of the box.
Battery test for Motorola RAZR XT910
Yesterday I decided to do a simple test with my new smartphone, a Motorola RAZR, I shall not charge until he get just 15% of battery remaining. So here I will put the results and thoughts about it.
8:00 AM: I woke up and took XT910 off the charger. Wi-fi was turned on;
8:00 - 9:00 AM: I passed one hour using Pulse to read some news, once or twice I shared some news in the Twitter and Facebook, with the Wi-fi on, of course. The Battery got 85%;
9:00 - 10:00 AM: I started to use Whatsapp to chat with a buddy, took at least 45 minutes of intensive use, battery got 70%;
10:00 - 11:00 AM: Cellphone in stand-by, BUT with the wi-fi on, waiting for someone, battery got 60% yet!;
11:00 - 12:00 AM: That one appeared, so I used Whatsapp again for 30 minutes, and battery got 50%;
12:00 AM - 2:00 PM: Two hours with the cells blocked, but still with wireless connection, 40%;
2:00 PM – 4:00 PM: Motorola in stand-by, now with the wi-fi turned off, so, in the first hour, he keep 40% and in the second, he got 30%;
4:00 PM – 5:15 PM: The final test, I passed just one hour playing Ceramic Destroyer without stopping, the battery got 15% and then the phone asked for charging!;
Well, the battery last for 8 hours with wi-fi turned on almost all time, so I think it's was fair, BUT, the battery status is a bit fake, I don't think that the information was correct, but, it works when is a simple test, you know, right?
We all know about the 1,2 Ghz processor, this drains a lot of battery, but the real villain is the connection, wi-fi or 3G, they both spend so much energy of the cel.
My last thought is... always charge your phone when it's possible, even if you don't use in an intensive form, I hope that you'll not have problems because a low-batterys cell phone.
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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keeb119 said:
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
I know theres is some apps that drains battery, one tip is just deactive the auto-sync with your accounts, other thing, I want a batterystatus app, to know better that stuff.
And I will try this connection app, thanks
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Man I even turned off my smart actions, so far I only turn on things when I am really using them. Auto-sync only with wifi!
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
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Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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keeb119 said:
Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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what did you kill?
there are some very important factors of battery draining follow
Display Timeout,Display Brightness,Bluetooth Inactivity
I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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what did you kill?
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In running processes, the vague media process. Auto starts and kills battery quickly.
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Mobzter said:
hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have added them to the list of battery tweaks!
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my quad core s3 is a no-contract phone . uses pre-paid card. so there is no 3g/4g. i get around 4 hours screen on time with power saving mode on with juice defender on. i find that gaming time in this phone is awful. in the iphone 4, i get 5 hours 3d gaming time. now i dont even get 4 hours 2d gaming time! is this normal with the s3? but stll this is a fantastic phone. without gaming i get 6 hours screen on time. just would like to know if you get the same with gaming. iphone 5 seems to have a really good battery with 8h screen on time.
Make sure you disable wcdma in network settings.... your phone probably searching for a 3g signal and failing.
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Get rid of juice defender and turn off power save mode.
Also 8 hours screen on time for ip5 is questionable, these are the same people that said 8 hours 3g use and 10 hours LTE. As everyone knows, LTE uses more power than 3g.
Their numbers are lies/exaggerated.
If you want the iPhone so badly then you know what you need to do.
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I too have Power Saving Mode turned on, and manually adjust the brightness (it's always set to the lowest setting).
I have WiFi turned on the entire time that I'm home, and 3G when I'm out.
Auto Sync is on the entire time, because I want to be able to know when I get an incoming email.
That's pretty much it.
I am not able to come close to 4 hours of screen time, before my battery reaches 5-10%. Cell Standby accounts for the most battery usage.
Any pointers/tips?
P.S. Phone not rooted.
Do you have Viber? If yes there is a bug in the latest update that's keeping the proximity sensor on and draining the battery. 4 hours screen on time with battery save mode is really bad. There's probably some app draining the battery.
Ps. Ip5 battery life is a lie as usual, people who have it and actually use it say battery is actually quite bad. Also on the ios stats you don't have 'screen on' time report, but 'usage' time that is a lot more stuff than just screen on time. People who say the have 8 hours are probably just reading the usage time.
kickokim said:
Do you have Viber? If yes there is a bug in the latest update that's keeping the proximity sensor on and draining the battery. 4 hours screen on time with battery save mode is really bad. There's probably some app draining the battery
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Yep; I do use Viber. I think you're right. Ever since I got the latest Viber update, the battery seems to die off sooner.
Should I uninstall and check?
How can I check what rogue app is eating into the battery?
Well. i hate the iphone 5! no i dont have viber. juice defender shows me battery improved by 1.8x. i have auto sync off and power save on. i have disabled mobile data. and i realised i am just expecting too much! i was surfing the stock browser on wifi for 45 min and my phone went from 39% to 34%. guess thats okay.
Viber just fixed the proximity sensor issue; hope this resolves the battery drain issue.
BTW, what is the normal hourly battery drain percentage?
You can install an app called 'betterbatterystats' (very counterintuitive name!) to see what exactly is eating your battery, it takes a while to figure out how it works but it is very usefull!
Google location services in maps and Google now (if you are on jelly bean) drain quite a bit of battery and basically anything running on the background. Obviously you just deactivate what you don't need!
What about the iphone4 and SGS3 screen size ...every mm more=more power
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Three days ago, I flashed stock ICS (with wipe). I wanted to test the battery life.
Screen On time was a little under 4 hours.
I spent just a little over 2 hours on the phone.
Wifi was on/off intermittently.
Around 15 minutes of gaming.
The phone lasted 1 day and 20 hours.
That, in my opinion, is really, really good.
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Three days ago, I flashed stock ICS (with wipe). I wanted to test the battery life.
Screen On time was a little under 4 hours.
I spent just a little over 2 hours on the phone.
Wifi was on/off intermittently.
Around 15 minutes of gaming.
The phone lasted 1 day and 20 hours.
That, in my opinion, is really, really good.
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You can easily go for 2 days with this phone and normal usage if you turn off or use airplane mode at night. But I never do because the phone is so cool that I use it all the time! I charge at night, still I never get to 0% at the end of the day.
anyone else can post their experience with battery life?
I get easily 2 days without charging I don't see what your problem is
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samkent6 said:
I get easily 2 days without charging I don't see what your problem is
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are you using 3G internet or WI-FI?
Full time Wi-Fi, and proximity 8 hours screen on per day and background music
I have to use about 3 batteries... this is my experience
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battery life on this babe is good enough for me!
I get around 21-26 hours of standby time and screen on time ranging from at least 5 hours to 6.5 hours. When I don't browse much and just use the Adobe Reader I b get around 7 Hours plus a few minutes.
I switch on power saving mode when the battery drops below 30% and my brightness is set on auto and I'm connected to a 2g network. No gaming. I generally browse the Web for an hours , listen to music for a few minutes and then read on the Adobe Reader.
Auto sync is switched on at all times.
I've had the HTC One X+ for a week now and it's a really good phone, however, the battery really lets it down. The battery drain is terrible on my phone. The phone is really good in sleep mode, only losing about 2% in 1 hour, but as soon as it's not in sleep mode, as soon as you start to use the phone, the battery drains like hell. For example, when I'm web surfing or using applications, it loses 1% like every 2 minutes and that's crazy!
I don't know why, power saver is on, switched to 2G instead of 3G, disabled Google Now, auto-sync, basically everything I think would drain the battery. Brightness is on it's minimum. I feel so restricted when using my phone! But I've read other people having really good battery life even with moderate use, so am I doing something wrong? Should I factory reset my phone? Is there something wrong with my phone? Can someone help me?
Thanks!!
Have you disabled all AT&T apps? They drain battery as hell especially ATT locker.
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Under Settings/Sounds/Ring Tone untick the three options as they just have the sensors constantly checking, then under Settings/Power untick Fastboot.
Then get a battery monitor app like GSam Battery Monitor which pinpoints the power drainer. How many apps do you have installed? Dump the ones you hardly ever use.
Also, several charge/discharge cycles are necessary before battery reaches best performance.
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
Sharpshooterrr said:
I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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2% isn't bad. You crazy.
My phone's battery life is really good and keeps improving with more usage. I do not however, expect more than a few hours of gaming.
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Won't lie i got the same problem you are facing right now. The battery life is horrible, in fact it only lasts about 3-4 hours gaming if i am lucky. Before 5 minutes i opened a game called "dead trigger" my battery was 94% after 5 minutes of playing guess what? BOOM 89% straight which is extremely bad from my point of view.
You know, you do have screen with a high resolution, and you're using the max of the graphic and other chips while gaming...and that costs power...most likely NFC is active, as is BT, 4G, brightness on 200%, the loudspeaker blearing some music out of the cloud, GPS on, and 15 apps not closed properly, weather syncing every 5 secs, and 700 apps installed from Happy Santa to FakeYourPhone!
I really can't get it that you complain about it. It is a mobile smartphone that can be used to play games. If your priority lies with the latter, have a charger handy with you! Play, enjoy, and stop moaning...Period!
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Bad Battery Drain as well
I'm going to tack onto this thread. I got the HTC One X+ about a week 1/2 ago. The phone is amazing. It has everything I want, but I cannot make it through the day once without always consciously thinking about battery drain and how quickly the phone just sucks down the power. The following Battery Monitor graph is when I have JuiceDefender installed so it turns off the data radio whenever the screen is off or I'm connected to WiFi. I was on WiFi from 7:45 this morning all the way to 5:00pm. The drain on this thing is so fast. I didn't watch a single video today nor any games. This is all facebook data, internet data, and just some general playing on the phone. I also turn on the power save feature for Jelly bean so I turned off vibration feedback, brightness is turned down, and CPU saving is turned on.
Do I have a dud phone or is the One X+ really that awful on the battery? I'm strongly considering taking it back but every single other thing about the phone is great but if the battery on every One X+ is that bad I don't know if it's worth it. Please help assuage my fears or give me some advice on what I can do better.
Do you have Google now active?
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You have WiFi, lte, and I'm assuming other radios on. Curious to see what other apps you're running in the background.
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Do you have Google now active?
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I do. I kind of thought it was one of the neater parts of Jelly Bean. Is it a complete battery hog? This is my 1st android phone but I'm a long time Smartphone owner. I'm guessing by your question I should disable it and see how the battery performs.
It is an LTE phone though i'm on wifi 90% of my day. Background apps that run are usually Whatsapp, Facebook, and Linkedin. Right now I'm losing about 2% charge every 10 minutes if I'm using it. I gotta plug the thing in as much as I can just so I can use it. I'm perfectly fine with tweaking the thing, just not sure how much 'tweaking' is needed to get some better performance out of the things.
I'm wondering if Facebook is the problem... Just a thought...
The One X+ isnt that bad in terms of battery life in my experience, I've done 15.5 hours with 2.5 hours screen on time, Not sure what folks are expecting, Thats pretty average for a smartphone... That is with Wi-Fi on, LTE on, Google Now on, Autosync on, the little weather widgety clock thing on.. and pretty much me not doing anything besides closing apps when im done with it, I have Kik messanger and TextPlus on in the background but they arent doing much to my battery life... I dont use the power saver until it toggles at 15% battery life, I have vibration on, and my brightness is fixed at like 33% constantly... I have every ATT app disabled in the app thing.. I also have the "best Wi-Fi performance" thing ticked which says it might use more battery...
Yes, Gaming and watching videos on the thing is going to drain the battery out fast, Just like every smartphone I've ever owned... Its better than my GSM Nexus with the stock battery (Its roughly halfway between the stock battery and the extended one) and better than the S3 I had very briefly (However I will note the S3 couldnt keep a signal at all whereas my One X+ can...) The conversion seems to be that you trade about 2 hours standby time for 30 minutes of screen-on usage in my case
Picture 1 is me using my phone normally in a day.. 15.5 hours is more than enough (I'd say i get closer to 13 or 14 average) with 2.5 hours of screen on time
Picture 2 was me basically doing nothing but watching Youtube and playing games this morning... its really not all that bad, the biggest consumer/ battery hog for me is Mediaserver for some reason, I'm not actually 100% sure why (I know what it is...) or if i could pull even better battery life if there is something actually wrong with it and its draining my battery excessively... But I'm not complaining about it because well.. this was me abusing my phone pretty much
Not arguing that some folks are getting rubbish battery life, Because they are, I'm actually more curious as to whats causing it, There has to be something here and some way to fix it
Follow up to yesterday's battery
Ok in the attachment is my usage today. As you can see it is totally what I would expect from the phone. I got it to that point by disabling Google Now. That kind of stinks however, I can actually use my phone without being nearby an electrical outlet all the time. The other thing that works well is how much cooler it is to the touch under normal use. Normally it was quite hot. I work in a basement(3 bars with LTE) so my guess is Google Now was always trying to utilize location (even if it wasn't immediately obvious) on the screen via the indicator and thus would just kill my battery especially when I would pick it up to use it with the screen. I wish I could use Google Now but perhaps I can slowly bring back some of it's abilities and find a happy medium.
I'd also like to make note that I am still utilizing the power saving features for Jelly Bean along with JuiceDefender.
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
KenjiS said:
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Sounds more in line with what im getting... Though i have Google Now on... Weird.. Very weird
GSam is a bit nicer and free FYI so you might wanna give it a look
how much playback time should I be getting for 720p mp4 files? My phone drains about 10% every 20 minutes with power save on, auto sync and all wireless radios off and minimum brightness, I am quite disappointed, is this normal drain?
I had to open my big mouth, Now my One X+ has developed a little problem It wont enter Deep Sleep so yeah... now the battery life isnt terribly great
You guys might wanna check that your phone is entering deep sleep and not getting held awake by something, because now im seeing similar drain to you guys...
Very new issue though, Weird... I uninstalled an app I felt might have caused it and ill see if that fixes it, Currently recharging my One X+ to reset the counters and everything...
According to BBM, It appears to be my Wi-Fi keeping the phone awake for some reason... Next step if the uninstallation doesnt fix things will be to disable Wi-Fi and see if that changes anything
Since people only post on negative battery experience while the happy ones are silent, I will break the silence.
I have and use the One X+ (international non-LTE, in central Europe) for one week. Today, I just used it to browse web for several hours (browser was consuming 55% at time of screenshot) and read some pdf (pdf viewer was consuming 17%; I flipped about 200 pages in fast way as it was mildly boring ebook with big fonts so no zooming). There were about 10 minutes of web or youtube video too.
The screenshot shows battery graph at 38% of battery left, after 8 hours since plugged.
I guess (based on the screenshot bars and based on the actual usage) the screen-on time was about 60% (so between 4.5 and 5 hours).
Boo at HTC for removing screen-on time counter.
Google now is off.
Mobile data is off.
WiFi is on.
Power saver mode is off.
Brightness was automatic, usually around 30%.
No extra battery monitor was running (they may affect battery while measuring too).
Stock rom, one OTA update was performed.
Android version 4.1.1
Build 1.17.401.1
I have never managed to fully discharge the battery so its measurements may not be fully calibrated.
no problems here
This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
jbharbin said:
This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
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Probably gaming ^^
Mine is just barley good enough, I never put my phone down. Doesn't matter tho because I always carry a charger
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Probably gaming ^^
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I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
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I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
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I'm debating switching from the N4 to the HOX+ but the battery is one huge concern. I traded a RAZR HD for a HOX+ and i should have it tomorrow so i can compare the two. I've been averaging between 4 and 5 hours of screen time per day, with my best being 5h 31min. The only thing that I'm thinking will help my case for the OX+ is that i will only use it on hspa+ instead of LTE.
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ctowne said:
I'm debating switching from the N4 to the HOX+ but the battery is one huge concern. I traded a RAZR HD for a HOX+ and i should have it tomorrow so i can compare the two. I've been averaging between 4 and 5 hours of screen time per day, with my best being 5h 31min. The only thing that I'm thinking will help my case for the OX+ is that i will only use it on hspa+ instead of LTE.
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Well, I choose the HOX+ mainly because you can't buy a N4, unless you go to the aftermarket and pay a premium. Also the 16GB is just not enough and LG lost me a customer coming from the LG G2x. Plus in Canada, there's not much benefit buying a phone off-contract. I was off-contract for the past 3yrs and my experience wasn't any better than the the providers that lock you in. That said, I'm guessing you will see better battery on your N4 compared to the HOX+...but hey, I don't either will come close to the RAZR HD for battery life.
jbharbin said:
This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
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smoothmoose said:
I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
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Thats very weird! Here are screenshots with detailed info about one of my usage days...
As you see i got 37hours with 3h screen time.... so about same as you.
All connection ON all the time (wifi, 3g)
Sync on
Power saver ON.
Some gaming, web browsing, social apps, calling, texting and stuff (see app usage screenshot)
p.s. my phone is stock and unrooted and i dont use any power saver apps or anything like that. Just stock power saver option.
Oh and i played one game with power saver off, not for long tho. (was tegra3 game, that racing game, you can see it in screenshot)
smoothmoose said:
Well, I choose the HOX+ mainly because you can't buy a N4, unless you go to the aftermarket and pay a premium. Also the 16GB is just not enough and LG lost me a customer coming from the LG G2x. Plus in Canada, there's not much benefit buying a phone off-contract. I was off-contract for the past 3yrs and my experience wasn't any better than the the providers that lock you in. That said, I'm guessing you will see better battery on your N4 compared to the HOX+...but hey, I don't either will come close to the RAZR HD for battery life.
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I had a RAZR HD for a few days. Wasn't impressed with the battery life to be honest. Maybe the Maxx version is better. And I was one of the lucky limbo level 3'ers from the N4 launch, that was not fun.
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Doubt the HOX+ can beat my N4! Kinda sucks cuz they have the same size battery
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Maybe I've not been using it for heavy gaming, but in the month I've had the phone, I've not run into any serious battery issues. If this were an issue, I'd probably install JuiceDefender, and configure it as per my schedule so push E-mails are not constantly keeping the radio on, as well as throttling CPU back.
I also have a charger in my car, so if I'm on the road, it gets charged.
my battery life usually gets me through the day until about 7pm with around 3hrs screen on time so i cant complain too much. i listen to music a lot and text heavily
Yeh. I dont thjnk ive seen better battery from any hox+ posted here. Ive seen 5hr screen time but the total run time is 6hrs.
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Never had a problem with the battery life myself.
mlts22 said:
Maybe I've not been using it for heavy gaming, but in the month I've had the phone, I've not run into any serious battery issues. If this were an issue, I'd probably install JuiceDefender, and configure it as per my schedule so push E-mails are not constantly keeping the radio on, as well as throttling CPU back.
I also have a charger in my car, so if I'm on the road, it gets charged.
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I might have a bad car charger, but when I'm running Navigation, it still drains the battery at 10%/h.
I think I do have higher battery life expectations. I tested with Juice Defender yesterday, and basically it provides around the same benefit as running in Battery Saver mode. Got 2hrs screen time with 14 hrs total run time while mostly connected to WIFI (maybe 2hrs or so connected to HSPA/LTE). Again this is OK...but not great.
Today I am testing with both JD and Power Saver on and will report back. It's the last day of my 14 day return/exchange policy and I'm planning to keep the HOX+. I have a very slight inclination to change to LG Optimus G as I believe it has the potential to get the same battery life as the Nexus 4. But I'm scared as hell about the LG support and the if people think the Dev community is thin here, it's basically a ghost town there. That said, it looks like they have a good build for CM 10.1.
Here is my best battery stat for HOX+, no games mainly whatsapp use with wifi on. Few voice calls and sms.
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Thats damn good. Are you on internatjonal or at&t/telus? And what rom are you using?
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Here is my best battery stat for HOX+, no games mainly whatsapp use with wifi on. Few voice calls and sms.
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Ok you beat my record do tell me your whole setup YouTube video haha
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Elegencia 4.4.0, OXP Kernel-010613
Power Savings on whole time.
Automatic brightness handled by LUMOS app.
This setup I was running sense. Now I'm desened by Elegencia damn smooth!
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Taking a close look at the long battery review thread, while there is a lot of information there regarding individual battery usage, the screen-on and overall usage times vary by a lot. It is impossible to draw conclusions regarding why the results vary so much, because most people did not give enough relevant information there.
I think it will be very interesting if we all used the same *comprehensive* method to compare our battery usage. We could really discover important things about our individual usage and how it compares to others (and how to make it even better).
It is important to note that when battery life is low (in comparison to other G2 users), sometimes this could be because we are taxing our device with heavy usage (and nothing is actually wrong), but other times something is definitely wrong (wakelocks, bad phone reception, etc.). This thread will help each and every one of us (that get lower than expected battery life) understand which of these two possibilities is correct for him (something wrong VS taxing usage).
In order to do this, let's use the excellent "GSam Battery Monitor" app, which could be downloaded freely from the Play Store.
Please post your results when your battery becomes low (around 10 percent), after it was fully charged.
If you want an accurate opinion about your battery behavior, with tips on how to improve things, please provide all the attached screens (please provide the graph image in landscape mode, and sort it by "other"):
Is this really necessary? The G2 has a fat battery. But any amount of power can be drained if you drain it. Enough said.
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RiverdALIEN said:
Is this really necessary? The G2 has a fat battery. But any amount of power can be drained if you drain it. Enough said.
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I say let's give this a shot. This phone has a beefy battery indeed, but still, some of us are posting 7 hours screen-on times, while some of us only 4. Let's see what this thread will provide us with. I have a good hunch this will be a very revealing thread.
Noam23 said:
I say let's give this a shot. This phone has a beefy battery indeed, but still, some of us are posting 7 hours screen-on times, while some of us only 4. Let's see what this thread will provide us with. I have a good hunch this will be a very revealing thread.
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Okay Well in the interest of troubleshooting good luck. I get 1.5 days easily with a good amount of music play. I always suggest people delete the Facebook app and use it in the browser, and disable data/sync while you're in a bad reception building/area
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Okay Well in the interest of troubleshooting good luck. I get 1.5 days easily with a good amount of music play. I always suggest people delete the Facebook app and use it in the browser, and disable data/sync while you're in a bad reception building/area
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Waiting to see your GSam results here
Don't delete face book...use greenify. Turn off location sharing unless on WiFi. No Google now. Simple
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Don't delete face book...use greenify. Turn off location sharing unless on WiFi. No Google now. Simple
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Yep, these are some solid good general advices.
I could only drain the battery to 50% today, so I'm posting this for now to get this thread running (and tomorrow I'll post the 10% results). It's funny because I have no trouble finishing the battery everyday, yet today it's giving me "problems". It's like it knows it is being monitored, and the battery hogs are afraid of being greenified...
Let's get over my results in the main screen:
Phone: yes, I did not use the phone to make phone calls. Not unusual for me...
Screen: almost 4 hours screen time, pretty impressive considering the phone has been running for more than 13 hours, and the battery is at 50%. On the other hand I did not make any phone calls, so this could be part of the reason for that excellent screen-on time. Btw, I'm using "Lux brightness control" instead of the LG2's pathetic brightness control feature, the Lux app itself drew practically zero power (as can be seen at the "App Sucker" screen, or actually, you can't even see it because it's too down in the list).
Phone Radio: At 7.9%, I don't really know whether it's good or bad, although this is definitely not a major battery user. I've attached the cellular reception screen too, just so people could reference with theirs. I think overall the reception is pretty good according to that image.
Wifi Active: The Wifi has been on the entire operating time. Most of the time it was connected to my home router, and some of the time it was not connected at all, but still on (when I was out of the house). I'm attaching the Wifi screen so people could see how much traffic the phone had through wifi, for reference. With only 3.9% battery usage, I think there is no need to turn the wifi off, ever.
Held Awake: The phone was awake for 1 hour (while the screen off, that is). Out of 13 hours being awake for 1 hour, I'm not sure whether this is good or bad. This will become clearer when more people will post their result here. It says that the power that was drawn during this 1 wake hour is 0.0%, I'm not sure if this is true, or some kind of inability of GSam to calculate battery usage for this awake period (if GSam IS correct, then I guess I don't understand what's the point of deep sleep, if the phone draws practically zero power even when awake...).
Bluetooth: The BT was on the entire operating time, but connected to a device only a short amount of time. In any case it drew no power according to this screen... like wifi, I think there is no need to turn the BT off, ever.
Regarding the "App Sucker" screen, I can't really say anything intelligent about this, no app seem to drain the battery too much. The 4 hours screen-on time was mainly spent browsing the internet, using Whatsapp, watching youtube, using XDA app (not even listed in the first screen) neither of which seem to drain the battery too much...
So, now that we have some reference (and a reference for a pretty good battery behavior, I think) It will be interesting to see how your results compare...
Just a quick question. I work in a building where there is terrible service. I mean so bad sometimes I get none at all. How does turning off mobile data save battery. Essentially your phone is still trying to connect to the mobile network all the same. I'm kind of looking for a technical explanation not just the 4g uses more battery type.
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Don't forget, the vzw version will throw a wrench into these comparisons.
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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Just a quick question. I work in a building where there is terrible service. I mean so bad sometimes I get none at all. How does turning off mobile data save battery. Essentially your phone is still trying to connect to the mobile network all the same. I'm kind of looking for a technical explanation not just the 4g uses more battery type.
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If you have bad cellular reception, turning off mobile data can help, but as you said it won't completely solve the problem because the phone still needs to connect to the network so you could talk and send SMS. I think switching to airplane mode (and using WIFI) is the best solution for battery life in this case. Still, I think you should use GSam to really see how much battery is drained by your bad cellular reception.
I am using it now. Waiting until it drops to around 20% to post my results. Will get back.
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Here are my statistics. You think my phone just has bad reception and is in a bad area or there is something wrong with my antenna? My old Droid Razr HD was the same way, barely any service. I'm definitely not staying with Verizon. I pay out the noodle for "the best service" and I get crap. I live on Long Island outside New York City, my service should be amazing.
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Ok, as promised, here are my 10% results:
Phone: did have some phone calls today, though nothing significant. I guess my usage can't really tell how significant phone calls are going to be with the G2, though this should not be a significant battery drainer for most.
Screen: As you remember, yesterday, after 13 hour phone usage, I had 50% battery, I had 3 hours 47 minutes of screen-on time. At that point I thought I might get over 7 hours screen-on time, but here I show about 5 hours 25 minutes. I guess that if I completely drained it, I would have gotten close to 6 hours, not bad.
Phone radio: seems similar to yesterday, about 10% of the battery... I still get good reception, as the image shows.
Wifi active: Wifi had been on the entire time, using 5.6% of the battery.
Held awake: So, yesterday after 13 hours of usage, the screen was held awake 1 hours. Today, after a total of 31 hours, the phone was held awake a total of 3 hours. It seems that the phone consistently is held awake for about 1 hour, every 10 hours of operation time (under my specific configuration, that is). I still find it weird that this "held awake" time did not tax the battery at all. How is this possible ?
Bluetooth: was on the entire time, not connected most of the time. Zero impact on battery.
Regarding the App Sucker screen, similar to yesterday, can't say anything special about this. This day I kept browsing the interned using Opera browser, and added another hour using Runkeeper with GPS tracking (with screen off). After a full cycle of battery usage, the main battery draw comes from the Home launcher, next is Opera browser, and then the apps become pretty much insignificant in terms of battery usage. Maybe two last points here: I'm using both Lux brightness control (to control auto brightness) and Delayed Lock (to remove the lock when connected to certain wifi points and BT devices), both of these apps always run in the background, yet consume practically zero battery, so high recommendation for both of these (they also work great with the G2). Last point, I'm using all the google location access services (everything is turned on there), and I really don't see this taxing in any way, using this GSam report.
That's it for now. Waiting for your results for comparison.
djraimondi said:
I am using it now. Waiting until it drops to around 20% to post my results. Will get back.
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Here are my statistics. You think my phone just has bad reception and is in a bad area or there is something wrong with my antenna? My old Droid Razr HD was the same way, barely any service. I'm definitely not staying with Verizon. I pay out the noodle for "the best service" and I get crap. I live on Long Island outside New York City, my service should be amazing.
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Interesting results. I thought this thread would be revealing, and it doesn't disappoint already.
Your phone reception is pretty bad, much much worse than mine. BUT, you can see that the difference in battery draw is not really significant between my case (I have great reception) and yours, in both cases the phone radio took about 10% of the battery. It seems that the phone reception qaulity doesn't make much difference on the battery (whether it's pretty good, or pretty bad. Maybe this will change if the reception is horrific... like 0 and 1). Comparing my GSam report to yours, you will gain practically no battery advantage by making your phone reception better (at least considering your current phone usage - you barely made phone calls, but still phone reception is also important in order to keep the phone connected to the network, and also for mobile data...). This is REALLY surprising, I thought that when comparing my excellent reception to your very bad one, if I got 10% battery usage (for phone radio), you'll get something like 30%. This did not happen at all, surprisingly!.
Your Held awake time is pretty much similar to mine, as evertything else is similar to mine (wifi active, etc.), yet you seem to get significantly less screen-on time than I. I can think of one explantion: I see you are using G2's automatic brightness control, which is pretty horrible, while I use Lux brightness control, which can reduce the brightness much much more, when it's appropriate. I really can't think of any other major contributor to your battery drainage in comparison to mine...
One thing still keeps me bewildered: why doesn't the "held awake" period tax the battery ?? I mean, the phone is awake, yet no battery is being used... how could this be possible ? Is this a problem of GSam which can't read this information right ?
djraimondi said:
Just a quick question. I work in a building where there is terrible service. I mean so bad sometimes I get none at all. How does turning off mobile data save battery. Essentially your phone is still trying to connect to the mobile network all the same. I'm kind of looking for a technical explanation not just the 4g uses more battery type.
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When you turn off mobile data the phone stops searching for a data connection, thus this battery draining process is halted
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Barely read through the details but I charged my phone to 100% last night, pulled it around 6am today. Been texting and tweeting moderately. Made a few phone calls, checked voicemail. Used the flashlight a couple times and took a few pictures, flash off.
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This is true but look at the sent part of data of the phone radio. My received data is much higher then yours but I can assure you I only receive data via WiFi because my phone signal is so bad. Your sent in comparison much more data then me probably via your phone signal.
This is also very important. I had my mobile data OFF while at work today. I have a shift tomorrow where I will keep the mobile data on and post new results.
Edit: Also about the phone being kept awake and not using any battery. It does seem odd. Perhaps we should also use the orginal screenshots of the stock battery app (pending you still have stock rom).
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djraimondi said:
This is true but look at the sent part of data of the phone radio. My received data is much higher then yours but I can assure you I only receive data via WiFi because my phone signal is so bad. Your sent in comparison much more data then me probably via your phone signal.
This is also very important. I had my mobile data OFF while at work today. I have a shift tomorrow where I will keep the mobile data on and post new results.
Edit: Also about the phone being kept awake and not using any battery. It does seem odd. Perhaps we should also use the orginal screenshots of the stock battery app (pending you still have stock rom).
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But, I don't see how the stock battery app will shed any new light on the kept awake period, if anything, the stock battery app is less detailed regarding almost everything...