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Hello,
Sorry for my bad english.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2, and flash'ed the Resurrection Remix 1.7 ROM. BEST!
What I missed is a Taskmanager like the original Samsung ROM Taskmanager.
You can see what is open (okay... I can see this with ICS too), whats in the Background open (this I cant see), and how much RAM it eats /how much RAM is free...
I looked at the Play Store, and there are Apps, they are old (are they still ICS compatible?), or they are ugly or have Ads like "Wanna have better Battery!?! OMG!!! Download my all-can-fix-app here".
I dont want anything, only the funktion, whats in the Background open, and how much RAM it eats... Like in the Samsung ROM with the one widget.
Sorry for my bad english.
Hope you can help me. Becouse I dont find something...
Thanks.
+1 I was wondering about this too.
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you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
bluefa1con said:
...you dont need a task manager on android...
...android manages ram differently...
...if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life...
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Thanks for the answer.
But when I will watch/show (...my english... ugly!) what is in the background? Or what CPU eats?
Can ICS show me this too? Becouse I doesent find enything. In Stuck ICS from Samsung, I can watch it, and so I can see, for example:
I have installed "Testapp A", and I wonder, why the battery will be so short, I go to Samsung Taskmanager, and it shows me that the App running in the Background, so I go to Play Store, and delete this app. So it dont running more...
With Stuck ICS I wonder, why the battery goes down... I looked. And an App was in Background. A Game... So I have deleted this crap.
Do you know what I mean? Its for me more Diagnostical, I know, when I kill something, it will restart.
Maybie it´s not a Taskmanager, it´s more a Diagnostical app?
Sorry for this english.
bluefa1con said:
you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
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what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
also, just services will restart on their own, normal apps, like youtube, games and so on are fully quittable, why would they restart? do you think all your apps run all the time?
the more ram is consumed, the more power the device uses, so exitting background apps saves battery.
i am also still looking for a good task manager like the samsung stock one, because in ics, some apps just don't quit, like skifta, with the dlna server running all day the battery life goes down massively and swiping it away in the recent apps screen just doesn't quit it.
Chef_Tony said:
what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
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Actually it's not a bunch of bull. You can freeze apps on android using Titanium Backup. Also you can disable some apps that you don't use (not all of them allow it) or don't use frequently with just app manager in system settings. Then you can re-enable them when needed.
You can try apps like Task Killer, etc... (and make sure you kill it too so it's not on all the time), but it's not as good as freezing with TB.
Good luck.
Don't know if this is "ugly", but it's ad-free anyway - Diagnosis.
I like it anyway, and the dev is great, posts on the apps section. His SD Maid app is a godsend.
I use ES Task Manager. Find it useful and you can also mange cache and startup programs.
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I've been testing go launcher to see whether it suffers from home screen redraw issues and so far it seems that after about an hour of testing by using apps, keeping around 8 max apps in memory , the launcher has not redrawn yet.
The phone has killed apps but not the launcher.
Sure its a tired launcher but its fast as hell especially with animation settings at 0.5 and seems so far to be resistant to home screen redraw.
Will post back if anything changes but so far all good.
Cheers.
Nova launcher is waaaayyy better than go launcher and never redraws either!
I don't like those Chinese type things like miui or go launcher etc.
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Every launher so far redraws including nova. I'm not saying go launcher is amazing I'm just saying so far it is the only launcher that doesn't suffer from home screen redraw.
Tw , apex and Nova all suffer from redraw from time to time whether people like to admit it or not.
Just trying to help :-D
Peace.
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Every launher so far redraws including nova. I'm not saying go launcher is amazing I'm just saying so far it is the only launcher that doesn't suffer from home screen redraw.
Tw , apex and Nova all suffer from redraw from time to time whether people like to admit it or not.
Just trying to help :-D
Peace.
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Well I would admit it if it did.
I don't work for nova or anything!
Maybe you should try android.mimic.ca and use that to upload your services.jar and change the oom priority settings.
It stops the launcher being killed off.
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Well I would admit it if it did.
I don't work for nova or anything!
Maybe you should try android.mimic.ca and use that to upload your services.jar and change the oom priority settings.
It stops the launcher being killed off.
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Surely this procedure is just moving the problem elsewhere. The screen re-draws because it needed the RAM to service what you were just doing. Then you hit home and it assigns the memory back to the launcher.
So, what would the performance have been like with the app/webpage you were looking at before hitting home if the launcher is now hogging the RAM it needed. Surely instead you'll now get crashing browsers as its out of RAM.
The real cure to this is trying to reduce the amount of RAM the whole OS is using. The ROMs are huge especially compared to the S2 which never suffered with the re-draw problem as it always had loads of memory/RAM to play with.
All these new features have cost us performance as the RAM is the same as the last model. I'd rather of had 2 cores with 2MB of RAM rather than 4 cores with 1MB of RAM. How did Samsung get this the wrong way round? Guess it must have been the whole "Quad Core" marketing crap balanced with cost of production.
The problem is de-bloating and thining the ROM down to stop this RAM issues makes this an S2 with a bigger higher res screen. All the new features need to be taken out.
I experienced my first redraw on Go launcher first time i launched firefox after installation yesterday. I uninstalled immediately as I didn't like it.
This issue would suggest 1GB internal RAM isn't sufficient for the S3.
mwatson said:
Surely this procedure is just moving the problem elsewhere. The screen re-draws because it needed the RAM to service what you were just doing. Then you hit home and it assigns the memory back to the launcher.
So, what would the performance have been like with the app/webpage you were looking at before hitting home if the launcher is now hogging the RAM it needed. Surely instead you'll now get crashing browsers as its out of RAM.
The real cure to this is trying to reduce the amount of RAM the whole OS is using. The ROMs are huge especially compared to the S2 which never suffered with the re-draw problem as it always had loads of memory/RAM to play with.
All these new features have cost us performance as the RAM is the same as the last model. I'd rather of had 2 cores with 2MB of RAM rather than 4 cores with 1MB of RAM. How did Samsung get this the wrong way round? Guess it must have been the whole "Quad Core" marketing crap balanced with cost of production.
The problem is de-bloating and thining the ROM down to stop this RAM issues makes this an S2 with a bigger higher res screen. All the new features need to be taken out.
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It doesn't move the problem, the oom settings were too aggressive.
I haven't had a launcher redraw since, never had an app crash and don't experience this music stopping problem that other people are having.
Its not a lack of ram that's the problem, its Samsung poor ram management settings.
Although that's not to say these roms couldn't do with losing a few pounds, 600mb+ for a rom is obscene.
Its still early days in S3 development so I'm sure the devs will sort it all out.
Remember the s2 has had loads of time for devs to fine tune every aspect of roms and kernels etc.
Modifying the launchers oom priority has worked for me so at the end of the day people can try it or not.
I'm happy with how I have my system running.
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go launcher works very great for me! no lag at all
You can try moving your launcher to the system/app folder ... tha "status" of system application is different than "standard" apps.
I haven't had a redraw since the latest few jb. I completely forgot about the problem until I saw this thread.
not that it matters, but I'm on apex launcher.
I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
(update: after a while setting for this will revert to standard, there's no way to fix this yet)
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
Is this at all somehow related to the Background Process Limit that is able to be set under Developer Options with ICS now?
It has a Standard Limit setting, No background processes, and At most 1 (through 4) processes for options.
Does anyone know what the value for Standard is?
In background process limit, it limits a number of background apps running, while the autokill values limit the number of bg apps running based on the amount of memory left, and killing off lower priority processes first.
The default values for background process limit is therefore "varies".
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Updated first post with more tweaks.
This is my favorite launcher. Smooth... I am using it since I got the RAZR.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nemustech.launcher
Nikorasu said:
I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
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Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
Thanks for the info, I'll confirm that upon bootup after applying the Aggressive setting, I tried scrolling around the Motoblur homescreen and thought it was smoother. But then the Superuser allowance for Autokiller kicked in right in the middle of me scrolling around and I noticed quite a difference in scrolling speed, it just suddenly got faster and smoother and the framerate looked as if it had increased by about 5 FPS. I also did tweaks #2 and 3 as well, but I think Autokiller makes the biggest difference. A good find for sure!
greyanaroth said:
Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
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Use setcpu and create profiles to set cpu speed lower when screen off and when battery is overheating. There's a free, older ver on xda.
Also you can use juicedefender to make your 3g connection turn off when screen is off. This should also help keep your phone temp down when you're not using it. Note that it will turn itself on every few min to receive whatsapp, mms and emails etc. (not for whatsapp hoes)
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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Same here!
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e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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That's called redraw. Try using apex and there is an option for keeping the launcher in memory so it loads faster
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Nikorasu said:
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
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How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
aaatoel said:
How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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Moto widgets only work on moto launcher
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aaatoel said:
How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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When I first installed Nova launcher, it asks for root access when going into widgets.
Try going to Nova settings ->Drawer-> Check Widgets in drawer (requires root permissions for system app)
Moto widgets like fav. contacts doesn't work well because I can't "pull down"... but it's there, including Motocast widget.
You may want to manually grant Nova launcher root access.
e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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tudork said:
Same here!
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This is why I'm using Nova launcher instead. There's a free version, do try it. It may still take a while to load the app drawer icons after playing a game, but the 'redraw' for Nova's desktop pages are pretty fast. I also liked how it switched to a tablet version when I'm using Webtop mode.
Do try Apex as well. I didn't like it as it felt laggy when I'm scrolling my desktop pages few months back. It may have improved now and many users are complimenting it. As for myself, I have already bought Nova Prime and I'm sticking to it.
i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
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I'll try this now and report back
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
Kryten2k35 said:
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
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my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
It seems to be a little better but its still hard to tell
I have about 244mb free running xda
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androidified said:
my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
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om nom nom :cyclops:
androidified said:
i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
Hit Thanks if I helped...!!!
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The system can manage the RAM very well. It will end applications accordingly when the RAM usage gets close to its maximum limit. You dont have to worry about any lags. I never have to clear the memory and I reboot my phone once a week or so.
Unused ram is wasted ram
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Lennyuk said:
Unused ram is wasted ram
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+100!
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Where's the other 200MB of RAM gone, though? These are 1GB devices, no?
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
Jaisah said:
I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
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even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
Use titanium backup to freeze the bloat.
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androidified said:
even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
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Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
Ev0d3vil said:
Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
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the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
Yes, the ram is not to use the phone and he drove.
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Phone itself does ram processes to manage load and use.
LG9 ROM has excellent memory usage. With stuff open I now idle around 480. Not very often does it go into the high 600's like before.
androidified said:
the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
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Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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Ev0d3vil said:
Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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move back the same file from /system/app to /data/app and restart the phone.
hello lads
i'm using 2gb kenzo with havoc os v2.9
my launcher: poco launcher (installed as system app, havoc default launcher removed)
i also removed/deleted swap region and disabled swap/zram totally because i thought apps were transferred to swap region and thats why everything was so slow to load again but i learned that wasn't the case.
my problem is this:
phone can't and doesn't use all of the available (1845mb) memory. the lowest free ram amount i have seen was ~240 mbs. when i see that both my game froze so i had to quit and phone launcher was removed from memory/app killed which takes up ~100mb ram and took 10 seconds to relaunch.
i mean if there is ~240mb free memory why is the launcher removed from the RAM!? it's only 100mb! and if there is ~240mb free memory why is my game is freezing at the first place!? i mean if there isn't enough memory game just should be force killed or frozen, whatever etc.. but there is no reason for any kind of freeze in the whole system, not the notification bar, not the launcher, not the keyboard!
also system ui (~100mb memory usage) is killed too! i can't even see the notification bar when trying to do anything else on the phone... i have to wait 5-10 seconds to load it when i swipe to open it.
when i use firefox, upon loading up a new page, free ram goes up from 400 to 700 mbs! so the phone is killing launcher, gboard and even system ui in the background to give more ram to firefox, which is ok and logical => only and if only there isn't free ram! but while system is doing that there is already 400 mbs of free ram! first those free ram should be given to the firefox, and when that is not enough system only then should start killing other apps, and should never kill apps like launcher, system ui, telephone ui, even keyboard! also there always more than 250mb is free when using firefox, but launcher, gboard, system ui is already dead at this point, i can't even take calls... and those took exactly 250 mbs total! i mean if there is always at least 250mb free ram while using firefox why is my launcher,gboard and system ui apps are killed and removed from the RAM! it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
what can we do to fix this stupid ram management? is this problem linux based or only android is like this?
thanks in advance for any kind of explaining/url that explain the problem thoroughly in technical terms
example pictures: i'll upload video if anyone wants to see how the user experience is for further investigation.
waltran said:
hello lads
i'm using 2gb kenzo with havoc os v2.9
my launcher: poco launcher (installed as system app, havoc default launcher removed)
i also removed/deleted swap region and disabled swap/zram totally because i thought apps were transferred to swap region and thats why everything was so slow to load again but i learned that wasn't the case.
my problem is this:
phone can't and doesn't use all of the available (1845mb) memory. the lowest free ram amount i have seen was ~240 mbs. when i see that both my game froze so i had to quit and phone launcher was removed from memory/app killed which takes up ~100mb ram and took 10 seconds to relaunch.
i mean if there is ~240mb free memory why is the launcher removed from the RAM!? it's only 100mb! and if there is ~240mb free memory why is my game is freezing at the first place!? i mean if there isn't enough memory game just should be force killed or frozen, whatever etc.. but there is no reason for any kind of freeze in the whole system, not the notification bar, not the launcher, not the keyboard!
also system ui (~100mb memory usage) is killed too! i can't even see the notification bar when trying to do anything else on the phone... i have to wait 5-10 seconds to load it when i swipe to open it.
when i use firefox, upon loading up a new page, free ram goes up from 400 to 700 mbs! so the phone is killing launcher, gboard and even system ui in the background to give more ram to firefox, which is ok and logical => only and if only there isn't free ram! but while system is doing that there is already 400 mbs of free ram! first those free ram should be given to the firefox, and when that is not enough system only then should start killing other apps, and should never kill apps like launcher, system ui, telephone ui, even keyboard! also there always more than 250mb is free when using firefox, but launcher, gboard, system ui is already dead at this point, i can't even take calls... and those took exactly 250 mbs total! i mean if there is always at least 250mb free ram while using firefox why is my launcher,gboard and system ui apps are killed and removed from the RAM! it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
what can we do to fix this stupid ram management? is this problem linux based or only android is like this?
thanks in advance for any kind of explaining/url that explain the problem thoroughly in technical terms
example pictures: i'll upload video if anyone wants to see how the user experience is for further investigation.
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U need zram if u r on 2gb kenzo. And havoc is not good idea. Havoc has too much customisation make ram heavy. So use lighter and moderate roms like Aex.
Excrima x28 is default with zram.
Black_Stark said:
U need zram if u r on 2gb kenzo. And havoc is not good idea. Havoc has too much customisation make ram heavy. So use lighter and moderate roms like Aex.
Excrima x28 is default with zram.
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thanks for answer, this makes sense now
do you know which android 9 ROM uses the lowest ram ?
waltran said:
thanks for answer, this makes sense now
do you know which android 9 ROM uses the lowest ram ?
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Install telegram app and join rn3 community group and other kenzo rom channels. U can ask here. U will get more replies on ram management. I dont use chrome or firefox.
https://t.me/rn3dev
https://t.me/kenzoromnews
https://t.me/KenzoRoms_News