I've looked thoroughly and haven't really found anyone on MJ4 who rooted besides the Kingo method (too sketch for me). Has anyone tried the CF Auto root/qbking77's root method? Is there anything extra I have to do? I know it trips Knox. And are there any limitations of having Knox flipped? Like am I able to use any ROM or recovery?
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I've looked thoroughly and haven't really found anyone on MJ4 who rooted besides the Kingo method (too sketch for me). Has anyone tried the CF Auto root/qbking77's root method? Is there anything extra I have to do? I know it trips Knox. And are there any limitations of having Knox flipped? Like am I able to use any ROM or recovery?
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I used QBking77's method and it worked great. Afterwards, download SuperSU from the Play Store to control your rooted programs and then flash TWRP or whatever recovery method you want. I used Goo Manager for that. Then you are all set to go. You can stay in stock rooted if you want or flash one of several ROMs currently available. Most developers and rooters are not concerned with the security features of Knox and I am not either. In fact most ROMs just omit it. You will be able to make your Nandroids and recover your previous ROMs just like on your previous phones. I made a Nandroid immediately after rooting just in case.
You may want to start with Xposed Installer (Framework) and Wanam Xposed while stock rooted to make some changes to your system just to get used to it and then just dive into some ROMs. Don't forget to make Nandroids before testing any ROMs. Most ROMs can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/development. Have fun!
Actually only chainfires root method. Qb is the video walk thru king . I rooted with cf on mj4 and used goo also.
Thank you! This was the easiest device I've had to root.
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Actually only chainfires root method. Qb is the video walk thru king . I rooted with cf on mj4 and used goo also.
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Of course. I was referring to the video. Thanks for the clarification.
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Hey guys!
I recently got my S4, and I updated to the 4.3 update, as I didn't know that I wanted to root my phone then. I have been looking all over, and I can't find a method that works for rooting my phone. I have the Verizon version of it. I have 2 questions.
1. Has someone figured out how to root this particular version of software? I have already tried Kingo, and it didn't work. Knox blocked it.
2. If not, is there a way that I can revert my phone back to 4.2.2 Android, so that I can root from there?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
-Whoonu
1. Yes, some great people on this forum have figured out how to root the 4.3 MJ7 update. You need to root with VROOT 1.7.2. Then you need to run the root_de_la_vega script to get rid of the Chinise superuser and install SuperSU instead.
Follow these instructions after VROOT - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47331487&postcount=169
Or follow these instructions if you don't know how to use VROOT - Mod Edit: Links to vRoot are currently not allowed on XDA. There are concerns as to the personal information such as IEMI numbers and Serial numbers it collects during he root process which is not necessary.
So, if your willing to try that, all you can do on this 4.3 at the current time is to root and then debloat the device. No custom recoveries have been developed (yet *holding breath).
2. From what I've read, once you update to 4.3 MJ7, your stuck with it, no downgrading.
Good luck and have fun!
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Hey guys!
I recently got my S4, and I updated to the 4.3 update, as I didn't know that I wanted to root my phone then. I have been looking all over, and I can't find a method that works for rooting my phone. I have the Verizon version of it. I have 2 questions.
1. Has someone figured out how to root this particular version of software? I have already tried Kingo, and it didn't work. Knox blocked it.
2. If not, is there a way that I can revert my phone back to 4.2.2 Android, so that I can root from there?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
-Whoonu
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Fourty8 said:
So, if your willing to try that, all you can do on this 4.3 at the current time is to root and then debloat the device. No custom recoveries have been developed (yet *holding breath).
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The last part of this is true, you can not install a custom recovery, so no ROMs.
The first part is not entirely true, you can do more than debloat. You can run apps requiring root, debloat or freeze apps using TB, remove ads, edit system files, etc.
I recall hearing that Hashcode was working on Safestrap for 4.3, so ROMs may be coming.
Thank you for explaining and clearing up my post a bit! I'm still quite new to all this stuff myself. Much appreciated!
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Alright. Here's the situation. I have successfully rooted, but I can't update supersu. I can't download the binary SU for what ever reason. Does anyone know how to fix this? It seems like I can't give root access to apps, but I know that it is rooted. Any help is appreciated!
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Alright. Here's the situation. I have successfully rooted, but I can't update supersu. I can't download the binary SU for what ever reason. Does anyone know how to fix this? It seems like I can't give root access to apps, but I know that it is rooted. Any help is appreciated!
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Yep, I was in the same boat after vroot. After doing some research and reading threads on here I found that I had to run the root de la vega script as well. Bascially you need the android terminal emulator and titanium backup (paid verstion too, I believe to be able to freeze apps, specifically the "Superuser" after you've gained root access in terminal emulator) to succeed. Follow the instructions that I posted above (the ones from xda-develepors.com), and you will be able to rid your device of the Chinese "Superuser" program and have SuperSU installed instead, and it will be allowed to update its binaries.
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Yep, I was in the same boat after vroot. After doing some research and reading threads on here I found that I had to run the root de la vega script as well. Bascially you need the android terminal emulator and titanium backup (paid verstion too, I believe to be able to freeze apps, specifically the "Superuser" after you've gained root access in terminal emulator) to succeed. Follow the instructions that I posted above (the ones from xda-develepors.com), and you will be able to rid your device of the Chinese "Superuser" program and have SuperSU installed instead, and it will be allowed to update its binaries.
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I will try re-rooting. I followed all of the instructions, but I think I became unroofed when my phone reset. I'll let you guys know how that goes.
Sweet! Re-rooting worked. Supersu is updated and working well. Thank you to all who helped me! :good:
-Mitchell
(BTW: Use the free app App Quarantine to disable apps for free.)
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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I have never tried the chainfire method of rooting so far. I've only tried kingo. I cannot report on other methods. I cannot verify on the accusations of stealing information either. I can vouch that kingo does not trip the Knox counter. That is all I have to report. Sorry if that is no help.
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Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
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Thanks for your reply. Do you know if I install the custom recovery like twrp or clockwork does that trip the knox counter with the kingo root method?
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
Well that's crap. I'm on MI3 unrooted. Should I update and root or root and flash deodexed update? I've been unsure and hesitant to ask but the thread is here so, lol.
I'm on MJ4 and I'm out of luck period. At least for now.
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Custom recovery trips Knox. King usually doesn't but can.
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Ok so let me get this straight if I root my device and install a custom recovery like TWRP or clockwork it will trip knox?
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What he said. Recovery is what sets off the Knox e-fuse.
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You sure? Because I want to flash a custom rom but dont want to trip knox.
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They don't know what the info is used for. So its kinda like be safer then sorry. Me personally i use it and everything is just fine. 1000's of other have used it as well. In today's world everything is out there for thieves to use against you.
Yes you dont want to just give it to them but rest for sure if you bank with a major bank you have no worries. I bought a ps4 off amazon. The next day i had a charge from some other state at walmart for $42.00! Called Wellsfargo and they put the money back in my account.
Just keep up with your credit scores and financial transactions as all Americans should be doing anyways.
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Well said...I know I'm not the only person that used the software but at the same time I don't want to go through the whole hassle of disputing activities on my credit report or bank accounts. I will hold off a little longer for some other root method to come out. Do you know if the Root de la Vega is available for Sprints Note 3?
Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
I used the chain fire method on the MJ4 update and had no issues. Going to have to trip Knox though. But look around, no one is having problems with sprint with Knox tripped except for a few unlucky people and they go to a different store and problem is solved.
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Like we said, kango root won't trip Knox. Adding custom recovery will. If you are determined to run a custom ROM, then you will have to install a custom recovery to flash it and that recovery will trip Knox.
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Gotcha..Thank You just wanted to clarify before I install a custom rom.
I used Wanam and faked the status back to official. Looks like nothing ever happened...
this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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this is it.. got my note 3.. and i want to uninstall those unnecessary apps.. from what ive search.. i need to root the phone.. my plan is root the phone using kingo and then install titanium backup.. and uninstall those unnecessary apps.. i can install any apps just not custom roms right, so i will not trip the knox?? thanks in advance
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Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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micmars said:
Correct, but I would recommend that you deep-six the idea of uninstalling any system apps (honestly, it can cause some serious problems with your device). Best to freeze them using TiBu. Your phone has a ton of system space, and deleting apps can lead to undesired results, with no upside.
Any app that can be frozen from app manager should be done from there first (select disable). The rest, use the freeze option from TiBu (Sprint Zone, Connection Optimizer).
Do one or two at a time, then reboot. See if your phone locks up after some use. If no issues, freeze another clutch of apps. If you do run into trouble, thawing the app is your next move.
I hope this helps.
Good luck!
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oohh okies thanks for the advice.. will do that instead of uninstalling.. yeah.. disable should be free some of the ram usage thanks..
alikhan2004 said:
Sorry for this stupid question but I cant find how to root my note 3 with Sprint without tripping knox or voiding the warranty. I've done so much searching but I only found one root method which is the Kingo app but I heard its not approved by XDA mods because it steals personal information from the phone. Please help
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let me make it simple for you. just search "How to root note 3 without tripping knox" on utube. you will find a video newly added (in April) about it. it has full tutorial performed on camera.
hope it helps
rooting new 4.4.4 NH7 without tripping knox tmobile m919 model
Looking for stwp by step directions on how to pull this off.
You can still use towelroot, but you need to flash back the 4.4.2 NB4 stock kernel through odin. After rooted reflash the new 4.4.4 NH7 stock kernel. There you go, rooted NH7 knox 0x0.
Hi All,
In my quest to learn a little more about my device, I've decided that I want to know how rooting is actually done manually. Where it stands, my device is currently rooted using a CF Autoroot Odin flashable (recovery?).
I saw that Super SU provides a CWM flashable zip but I suspect that it's the same as sideloading the application or installing it from the store and that won't be enough to get rooted. Or is it?
Bumping my thread :laugh:
oreo27 said:
Hi All,
In my quest to learn a little more about my device, I've decided that I want to know how rooting is actually done manually. Where it stands, my device is currently rooted using a CF Autoroot Odin flashable (recovery?).
I saw that Super SU provides a CWM flashable zip but I suspect that it's the same as sideloading the application or installing it from the store and that won't be enough to get rooted. Or is it?
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(1) please read the FAQ and stickies to understand what rooting is and why CF autoroot has nothing to do with recovery
(2) cf autoroot, if I am not wrong, but I might be, injects files that will enable you to have full access to the device, after that for instance you can flash a new recovery, use apps that need root etc. super user is the app to control which apps you allow to obtain root.
chrismast said:
(1) please read the FAQ and stickies to understand what rooting is and why CF autoroot has nothing to do with recovery
(2) cf autoroot, if I am not wrong, but I might be, injects files that will enable you to have full access to the device, after that for instance you can flash a new recovery, use apps that need root etc. super user is the app to control which apps you allow to obtain root.
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I've read and followed the procedure for rooting ang flashing with a custom recovery previously but I've followed your suggestion and re-read it anyway, in case I missed something or my memory loss kicked in again.
Perhaps you are correct. I was a little confused since I flashed it with Odin as well but come to think of it; it's like an upgrade package that, as you mentioned, uploads files to the device that give Superuser Access.
after that for instance you can flash a new recovery
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I've flashed a custom recovery before rooting but I suppose that only applies to some devices. Samsung is great because it has Odin!
Alright, so SuperSU only allows me to control what applications require root access (something like User Account Control for Windows).
Thanks for clearing that up!
As for my original question, the manual rooting process and what's required to gain root access seems undocumented since there are a ton of methods to accomplish it automatically. I hope someone can point me to the right place to understand what CF Autoroot or other apps actually do to gain root.
Hi folks,
Ive been having a strange problem with a couple Galaxy Mega I9200. I have rooted both before without any problems using KINGO originally. The i decided to update both of them with version UBUCNA2. When i tried to re root them back, even though the process have run fine a couple times the phone is not rooting. At this point i dont know what else to do to try to root those phones. I have tried every single method around this forum i think not just KINGO this time. And have not been able to reach root the way it should. Titanium backup shows not able to aquire root priviledges, and other root apps also. Can someone please help me on this?? Keep in mind im not a newbie so dont give me the recovery method advice without something new or to use KINGO because ive have done that already. Thanks a lot guys
You upgraded your phones to the latest knox enabled firmware which has the knox bootloader. You cannot go back to an older firmware or flash a custom rom now.
To root, try the directions provided in this thread and use the melius3gxx files instead of meliusltexx.
Silesh.Nair said:
You upgraded your phones to the latest knox enabled firmware which has the knox bootloader. You cannot go back to an older firmware or flash a custom rom now.
To root, try the directions provided in this thread and use the melius3gxx files instead of meliusltexx.
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Ok thanks, the phones already had the knox apk so my guess was that it was going to be the same thing. Thanks for clarifying that one. And thanks for the advice.
Thanks again, turns out the only thing that is failling root access is when i try to unlock the phone via box. For some reason when its checking for SU access it fails. But thanks anyway i managed to solve the Root problem.
root.
I rooted through Phill touch Recovery.
Hi all, thanks in advance for any help on this. I have a few general s5 rooting questions. I'm an experienced 'rooter' having rooted and installed custom ROMs on many previous devices.
- I've ready that the s5 has an 'e-fuse' that gets 'blown' when the device is rooted. this then voids the warranty and prevents things like Fort Knox from running. I get that, and understand the risks. But, I've also read that the lollipop update will remove root. These two things seem to contradict themselves.
- on other devices I've rooted, I've then installed a custom ROM. I don't plan to do this with my s5. I haven't been able to find much written on the experience of a rooted s5 running the samsung stock ROM/firmware. I'd like to use something like xposed to change parts of the ROM (like the white background that's so pervasive in the s5 flavor of lollipop). I'm curious if anyone is running lollipop on an s5 that is rooted but running stock samsung firmware and xposed.
thanks!
Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
thanks!
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Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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Right now there are threads that show you how to get rooted lollipop on your phone without tripping Knox which basically involves downgrading the kernel so you can root with towelroot, then using mobile Odin to flash lollipop and inject root in the process. It seems people are able to do this without issues. To this point, I do not think that anyone has found an exploit for lollipop.
The problem you will run into is that Xposed still does not run on lollipop so you cannot do much in the way of customization. Most of the G900F ROMs can run on the G900T so you might poke around in those threads to pick up more info.
Hope this helps a little.
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very interesting, thanks! can I run xposed/titanium backup pro/other root things without a custom recovery? all I'm really interested in is modifying Samsung-dictated things (like apps that can't be frozen and colors/elements that can't be changed) + making complete backups to the SD card. If I recall from my previous experiences, a custom recovery was the way to create a nandroid backup...but I think perhaps titanium backup pro can do that from the android front-end (with root).
I assume that I should wait to root until the tmobile s5 gets lollipop? i.e. that update will kill root?
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System runtime is different. Art for lollipop compared to dalvik.. So it's not compatible as of now
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This does not work with lollipop
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gspears said:
Right now there are threads that show you how to get rooted lollipop on your phone without tripping Knox which basically involves downgrading the kernel so you can root with towelroot, then using mobile Odin to flash lollipop and inject root in the process. It seems people are able to do this without issues. To this point, I do not think that anyone has found an exploit for lollipop.
The problem you will run into is that Xposed still does not run on lollipop so you cannot do much in the way of customization. Most of the G900F ROMs can run on the G900T so you might poke around in those threads to pick up more info.
Hope this helps a little.
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are you sure ? I have been able to downgrade. towelroot and flash lollipop and it boots but supersu does not work properly. root apps ask permission and supersu grants permission but the apps dont actually work
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Rooting won't trip Knox. Installing a custom recovery will. If you have insurance on your device tripping Knox doesn't matter, your covered anyway.
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I don;t know where you heard that rooting won;'t trip Knox but I beleive you are wrong about that At least I know that Flashing cf auto root - flashing recovery or flashing custom roms all trip knox. If your phone can use Towel Root - that rooting process does not trip knox - but I am not sure if Towel Root works on Lollipop or on the S5 for that matter. (I may be wrong about Towel Root - I have never used that process so I can't say for sure)
Flashing a new rom via ODIN does not trip knox. It is just like getting an UPDATE from the carrier OTA.
BUT, If you are already rooted - you already have tripped knox - flashing Lollipop will remove root - but it will not do anything to change the fact that you tripped knox on your phone already.
As far as I know everything I have said is correct - based on what I have learned thru reading - flashing and using several different samsung phones -
finally, I see a lot of people paranoid as hell about tripping knox - and I can tell you without any hesitation that I have never had a problem getting service or replacements after rooting a phone - there have been a few times back when I first started flashing roms that I had issues with my phone and I took it in and got a replacement without any issue - once I broke my screen and got a replacement then too - both times I was rooted, running custom recovery - etc.
I hope this helps you
I used towel root on NE6. You can downgrade to that via Odin and not trip knox. As far as flashing 5.0 and losing root. I came from Alliance flash Twisted lollipop and kept root. Then used Odin to flash the bootloader and modem for OB1.
Do you still have Knox 0?
How did you flash lollipop?