Hey Guys!
I wanted to know which one will eat more and quicker battery life:
1.wired usb controller
or
2.bluetooth controller
android version: 4.3
thanks for your answers!
Hey sorry to be such a bummer but which app are you using to use ur phone as a controller. My opinion on your question is that bluetooth wd logically thinking here, bluetooth wd use more power. As a usb cable plugged in your phone wd or shd be charging at the same time. If u finding it difficult to tell maybe the usb port is not pushing out sufficient charge power. I wd then maybe plug into a normal phone charger and use bluetooth. I find if I use a bluetooth controller eg androg I put my phone in flight mode and then turn bluetooth on and my battery lasts longer because the phone is not continously searching for network when signal is low. But via usb ur shd be charging and via bluetooth no wires connected ur obviously using power. And wireless devices that communicate with each other tend to use power at a faster rate. If using as game controller over bluetooth maybe disable the vibrate function if it has one. Thats my personal opinion so if u dont mind cables then usb the phone... I dont mind bt via my s3 its convenient and its not like im gna play nonstop for hours on end. But id rather have a charged ohone shd I nd to up and leave all of a sudden... best of luck... whats the usb controller app?
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kryptonetworx said:
Hey sorry to be such a bummer but which app are you using to use ur phone as a controller. My opinion on your question is that bluetooth wd logically thinking here, bluetooth wd use more power. As a usb cable plugged in your phone wd or shd be charging at the same time. If u finding it difficult to tell maybe the usb port is not pushing out sufficient charge power. I wd then maybe plug into a normal phone charger and use bluetooth. I find if I use a bluetooth controller eg androg I put my phone in flight mode and then turn bluetooth on and my battery lasts longer because the phone is not continously searching for network when signal is low. But via usb ur shd be charging and via bluetooth no wires connected ur obviously using power. And wireless devices that communicate with each other tend to use power at a faster rate. If using as game controller over bluetooth maybe disable the vibrate function if it has one. Thats my personal opinion so if u dont mind cables then usb the phone... I dont mind bt via my s3 its convenient and its not like im gna play nonstop for hours on end. But id rather have a charged ohone shd I nd to up and leave all of a sudden... best of luck... whats the usb controller app?
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I dun think usb wired controller chargers ur phone... Like if u plug an external hard disk to ur phone thru a converter plug, the external hard disk will not charge ur fone.
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If you are traveling and need to use GPS, but maps are loaded on a external card and you have your viewpad charging on lighter outlet.
or (my case) you have some serious amount of text to write and you need the keyboard connected as well as your wall mount charger....
Is there any known way to connect the battery charger and a peripheral as keyboard or usb mass storage device at the same time?
I'm thinking about some surgery to the usb-to-miniusb converter that I use to connect my desktop type keyboard to the viewpad, but don't know what could happen to the usb device or the keyboard. Neither know which of the 5 pins (contacts) of the charger is the active one...
Any suggestions?
Tnx in advance.
anothe question....
Ok... since there is no answer over 24hrs, I'll make another question to make this a little more interesting for you people could help me...
Is there any chance to connect a keyboard (already working) plus a SD card at the same time??
I'm making some fun stuff with a keyboard and making some surgery I could install some kind of "external USB Port" on the keyboard.... but, should it work?? I mean, keyboard and flash memory together, connected to one-single miniUSB port....
Developers.... any suggestion??
Thnx again...
Forgett to say.... on Viewpad7 with FROYO 2.2.1
Another idea
Ok, easy people... That bunch of comments about my topic make s me feel kind dizzy...
Just kidding....
Making some research (on goggle, haha!!), I've found that USB port on a pc have a 5volt-500mA output... So, if that's nominal out and that power could charge the viewpad AND don't turn on smoke any peripheral, Then I just have to connect power out on a wall-mount charger to the 1st pin (wire) of a 5 contact miniUSB, regarding on the power out put on 500mA.
(thanks isIran for your assistance )
now... PLEASE SOMEONE STOP ME IF I'M HAVING SOME IDIOTIC, TABLET BRICKING, IDEA!!!!
Thnx again
Hi,
The Viewpad wall charger have a non standard conector, if you look in the contact part you will see double connection.
In the main charger body you will find the pinout:
Pin 1 & 6 +, pin 5 & 10 -
These pins (6&10) are longer than the data pins to ensure that the power connections mate first and un-mate last.
The wall charger is 2 A and the USB PC port only 0.5A (0.9A for USB3)
For this reason a wall charger change in 2 hours and a PC USB in 15 hours.
A dedicated USB charger should short the 2 data lines together. The device will then not attempt to transmit or receive data, but can draw up to 1.8A
for this reason the device know when it's connected to a computer or to a dedicated charger (like a Garmin GPS)
Probably modifiying a connector (or keyboard) to provide energy and data will work.
Did you try a USB hub?
Less us know the result of your experience.
cheers
You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
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You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
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Right, this solve one problem, but is much expensive and less fun... Besides, didn't solve the flash drive plus charger issue...
About pins 6 &10... Just noticed that (in over a year never look that closer the charger pin).
I'll try usb hub, but I'm afraid to burn some flash drive or worst...
Thanx for your interest and helpful advice...
is there any way to built support (physically) for using USB OTG mounting and charging at the same time, say if im on a train and i have a portable charger... and want to watch a HD movie, i still want my charge
ive searched for micro usb HUBS but dont seem to see any, and above that, i dont know how i would get power to the phone from it
EDIT: also is there a way to safely remove usb without just pulling it from the phone? im talking about USB OTG mounting... using resurrection remix 1.4 w/ siyah3.1rc6 =]
you could try using a T cable , its a cable the has an input for power and an output in to the phone.
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you could try using a T cable , its a cable the has an input for power and an output in to the phone.
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i THINk i have one for my external usb drive if it work then you my friend are awesome!
Cable did not work but you are still awesome lol
Hi,
Just to share, I tried to install the wireless charger in the phone but didn't work for me, I just managed to destroy the Palm circuit and my phone USB.
Wireless Charger
After installing it worked for 2 seconds and I ear some kind of buzzer and it just stopped working.
If you try to do this don't destroy your phone like me I can charge phone and all but no usb, so no new firmares, no new kernels, etc
Give for repair,,
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I've tried to make my own OTG cable - same result as you
Thanks For Sharing
Sorry for You Loss
I'll Keep that in Mind since I can't leave any electronic device away from my fingers
just keep in mind that there's enough power in usb to burn your phone's elecronics
Hi. i just want to share my work with you my firends. I made dock station and i was able to get OTG MODE AND CHARGING AT THE SAME TIME for SONY XPERIA S LT26i , but XDA USER GregórioAxiaMagno get it tested and working on XPERIA MINI st15i. Thats mean you can do your own almost for nothing, few cables + 100k resistor thats it.
Enjoy!
link to project website --> https://sites.google.com/site/sonicboomworld/
link ta main XDA THREAD --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822653
Yeah!
As said by our fella, sonic_boom :highfive:, we can easily mod a OTG cable, or even mod any normal cable/adapter, to allow OTG and battery charge, at the same time, in our little lovely paunchy phones :victory:.
On the sonic_boom's site you can find clear and simply diagrams to the goal.
Also you can find my test at youtube channel - and other things more :laugh:
So if you think that the LiveDock, even with a nice design, can be just an expensive plate, you have now one more argument haha.
The resistor is easy to find... in fact, all the materials are cheap and easy to find. In my case for example, I'm a geek so I have a lot of old oficial cables and some equipments, the only thing off my collection is the resistor.
My video here.
The only thing what can damage your phone is if you use power more than 5v 1000mA (genius), or maybe connect the wrong pins (genius x 2, because everything is well explained), I mean, if (isTrollTin || isMorePowerThanTheCorrect) { yourPhone = :angel: ; }.
It is worth is very simple!
EDIT: BTW if you have ICS at your mini and maybe OTG isn't working, is just install the BusyBox by Stephen (Stericson) and done! To mount one or more data travelers I used [root] StickMount by Chainfire
GregórioAxiaMagno said:
The only thing what can damage your phone is if you use power more than 5v 1000mA (genius), or maybe connect the wrong pins (genius x 2, because everything is well explained), I mean, if (isTrollTin || isMorePowerThanTheCorrect) { yourPhone = :angel: ; }.
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LOL i use 5V and 3A (3000mA) charger , working perfect
someone have to be big troll to brick phone using my diagrams correctly
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LOL i use 5V and 3A (3000mA) charger , working perfect
someone have to be big troll to brick phone using my diagrams correctly
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LOL xD, pretty nice so. I'm a noob that need an charge like this. BTW just curious, you don't get problem with your touch screen while with this energy?
GregórioAxiaMagno said:
LOL xD, pretty nice so. I'm a noob that need an charge like this. BTW just curious, you don't get problem with your touch screen while with this energy?
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Why? Connect your charger then check command DMESG. Connect USB charging from computer then check same command. Then connect 5V 3amps charger and do the same thing. Android will decide how much power can take while charging. Phone is charging slower when you use computer I AM not sure but I think max is 500mA from AC charger you can get 1500 mA but iam not 100% sure
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Why? Connect your charger then check command DMESG. Connect USB charging from computer then check same command. Then connect 5V 3amps charger and do the same thing. Android will decide how much power can take while charging. Phone is charging slower when you use computer I AM not sure but I think max is 500mA from AC charger you can get 1500 mA but iam not 100% sure
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hummmmmmm right
Btw I recommend to use dedicated chargers
Same as you using.
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Problem. USB host mode RESET on "fully charged"
Hello guys!
I have such a OTG+Charging solution for me and it works like a charm (on cm10, sony ericsson mini pro sk17i - see freexperia). Thanks to sonic boom for the comprehensive howto!
The OTG-USB is connected to a USB hub (that powers my devices and charges the phone!) and a usb-ethernet connected to it for network access.
It works perfectly, but...
...when the phone is "fully charged", it does something to its usb connection (reinitalizing it, I guess) and the ethernet is lost. That would not be much of a problem, but the phone resets the usb connection roughly every 2 to 3 minutes once it's fully charged.
As long as it's charging: No problem whatsoever.
Do you know that problem and what can I do?
So far I have found the kernel-switches in the filessystem (proc or sys, dont remember) to influence host-mode and charging beahviour and have starting playing around with them, but to no avail: Either no network or no charging.
And, as soon as the phone goes to stand-by, the charging is resumed and the usb-host connection subsequently dropped.
I am very grateful for any suggestions as this problem prevents me from having a nice little server running on my phone with performance better than a raspberry pi! (Wifi is hardly an option: I have around 14 Wifi Networks in my surrounding that kill any decent latency).
Thank you for your help in advance!
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
I upgraded my laptop to a Samsung 250gb SSD, which provided me with a spare HDD:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7T...=1387366438&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+250gb+ssd
It comes with a cable already in it (USB 2.0) so this next item is optional, A Apricorn USB 3.0 Transger cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Note...qid=1387366498&sr=8-1&keywords=apricorn+clone
And lastly, it needs to connect to the phone, so I picked up this USB 3.0 OTG cable:
http://www.amazon.com/White-Color-M...7366411&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+note+3+usb+otg
Now here is the steps I took.
Since my HDD still had stuff on it, and it was partitioned, I had to wipe it clean. I formatted the HDD on my computer first. I formatted it to exfat. Maybe another way will work but I'm not testing it. I then hooked up all the wires accordingly and plugged it into my phone. The N3 did not recognize the file format of the HDD so I re-formatted it to the N3 standard. After that, it is as simple as plug and play. I was even able to use the stock My Files app.
Note*** obviously the SSD is not a requirement, unfortunately, I am unable to test it as it has been in my computer for several months and I dont want to risk corrupting anything. It may work with the SSD as well, although I doubt it will reach the speeds it can on a computer.
I am not rooted and did not have to download anything extra for it.
Pics:
Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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Hmm..Never thought of that :good:
Transfer movies and stuff back and forth. Also pictures, downloaded documents. Mostly my school work is backed up to it now so if Google drive fails. I'll still be safe :beer:
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Can never have too much space
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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This. We were using a variant setup, pushing the content via DLNA to our Xbox 360 (connected to a good ole 'dumb' tube TV). Quite enjoyable.
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
trillog said:
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
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I'm sure it can be done. That would be ideal. I have the 10,000mah zero Lemmon battery set to notify me when it's available again. I'll look around for a spilter
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what format was the hdd in exFAT or NTFS ?
I use the OTG dongle to hook up my 1TB drive and play movies and TV shows directly from the drive.
(Also works with the tablet)
I formatted it to exfat. I have a 1tb external also. But it's already formatted to ntfs. And it's full so I'm not going to risk losing a thing on it.
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justin94 said:
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
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This is awesome! I have an otg on order from Amazon. I was hoping to use a Logitech wireless receiver for my mouse, and a large 3.0 usb when needed.
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Do not remember where, maybe mono price, but have seen micro USB 2.0 to USB 'A' female splitters.
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Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
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Because it's not supposed to work that way... The OTG cable puts your device in "host" mode... so it will use the phones power to run your HDD and kill the ability to charge... there are ways to get power to the HDD so you don't drain your device battery as much but the charging thing is a native function of OTG switching.
This is what i've been using... it has HDMI out ... microUSB 5v input to run the HDD... USB port for HDD or any other USB device... (using a wireless keyboard on it right now)... and card reader ports...
You can fake this thing into trying to charge the phone by plugging in the micro USB connection first and THEN plugging the hub into the phone with the microUSB power already on... then you see the charge notification in the status bar but it still doesn't charge the device... even with the samsung 2amp charger as a power supply... the battery still drains
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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That actually is a good idea to try. I'm less optimistic about that as my previous experience with wireless charging has shown that it is less efficient t getting current to the phone as a wired connection and there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
What about the Smart dock? With 2 USB ports an HDMI and power in?
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there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
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That's the problem I'm running into... I'm running the HDMI/MHL/OTG hub... I got the HDMI out to my flat screen... OTG to a wireless keyboard... bluetooth mouse... When it all hooks up properly (you have to plug everything in the right order) the Note 3 screen shuts off and it runs as a proper CPU with output to the flat screen...but even with the samsung 2 amp charger plugged in I still lose about 1% battery every 5 minutes... better than running without the charger but that s$#t can't be good for the battery running that hard and charging at the same time AND losing the battle.