There are at least 5 different bootloader/root methods and topics on the first page of "Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769 General"...it's a "maze" of methods.
I have some experience with rooting...I rooted my old G2x and played with several different ROMs, but I am definitely still a noob at this game. This maze of methods makes me want to run away from my son's P769, but I can't because he is out of memory space and insisting that I do something about it. I have read several threads only to learn (a couple of pages into it) that it doesn't apply to ver. 20h or that the programs to be used are deemed "suspicious".
All I want to do is give the kid more space through the use of a larger sd card (class 10). I understand that I need to root and then either keep the stock ROM and use an app like Link2sd (which is all the kid really needs because he will not take advantage of a custom ROM) or I can run a custom ROM that takes proper advantage of the sd card in the first place.
Sorry, but I need to quit reading threads that lead to nowhere or confusion and just ask: Will anybody help me make a decision as to what method to go with? I'm not concerned about it being super-simple, I just want to be sure that it works for the kid's phone (ver. 20h) and that it's safe (in terms of malware). A little clarification on the bootloader/root thing would help too: I have to unlock the bootloader first, then root? or is it the other way around? or are they done at the same time?
OK there's two ways to look at root, it is either done at the same time as flashing a new ROM(because the ROM's come with root access) or you can root it with the Chinese program on stock ROM. If you want a custom ROM it's doable but a total pain, I still haven't done it to mine because it requires a data plan and I don't have one. Its kinda like this, downgrade the os with a kmz meant for a p760, have weird mirrored issues with bootloader and os and touches, flash radio fix , wait 30 min to an hour with data and WiFi connected, pray you received an unlock token and reboot to unlocking screen. That's the process in a nutshell, here's an actual tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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OK there's two ways to look at root, it is either done at the same time as flashing a new ROM(because the ROM's come with root access) or you can root it with the Chinese program on stock ROM. If you want a custom ROM it's doable but a total pain, I still haven't done it to mine because it requires a data plan and I don't have one. Its kinda like this, downgrade the os with a kmz meant for a p760, have weird mirrored issues with bootloader and os and touches, flash radio fix , wait 30 min to an hour with data and WiFi connected, pray you received an unlock token and reboot to unlocking screen. That's the process in a nutshell, here's an actual tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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OK...forget the custom ROM...he's just a kid that wants more stupid games and videos on his phone...all he needs is more space. So what you're saying is to use the "Chinese program" to root it. OK...I will find the "Chinese program", but I'll ask first: does it work on ALL versions (particularly v. 20h).
Thanks for taking your time...it's appreciated.
It should work on that version, it did on mine and I have the same version, here's a link to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553547
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It should work on that version, it did on mine and I have the same version, here's a link to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553547
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K...but isn't that the VRoot prog with all the suspicion surrounding it? Some of the threads I have read about this prog are actually closed by the moderators "until further notice" or until it's fully investigated...do we have an "all clear" on this?
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K...but isn't that the VRoot prog with all the suspicion surrounding it? Some of the threads I have read about this prog are actually closed by the moderators "until further notice" or until it's fully investigated...do we have an "all clear" on this?
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There's no issue with that program. People don't read directions 99% of the time, can't get it to work so they report it as being faulty. I used the same app to root my P769V20H. Only difference now is there is actually an English version, so I've heard.
You may have to enable init.d support on the stock ROM before using something like Link2SD. I currently am not having any storage issues, 32 GB sdcard, so I cannot say if Link2SD will work or not. I did notice that there was NOT an init.d folder in my system image, which is required of Link2SD in order to work correctly. You may want to look in to this thread for enabling init.d support.
I'd also advise downloading and installing the bootstrap recovery for L9 devices with a locked bootloader. It's called L9_Recovery_Installer.1.5.0.apk. Search the L9 forums for a download link. After installing, boot in to CWM and perform a backup. This will give you something to restore to just in case something goes wonky in the future.
I ended up installing and using Cydia Impactor for root, installing the bootstrap recovery that was suggested, installing and using Universal Init.d, MiniTool Partition, and Link2SD. Seems to work fine, although I'm still having a hard time grasping why the extra space provided by the new Ext2 partition on the SDcard isn't displayed in System Settings/Storage/Internal Storage.
Thanks to all
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Seems to work fine, although I'm still having a hard time grasping why the extra space provided by the new Ext2 partition on the SDcard isn't displayed in System Settings/Storage/Internal Storage.
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It's because most stock ROMs aren't configured to search for extended partitions. You can view all partition infos with Link2SD.
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[STICKY] [FAQ] Official Atrix "Ask A Dev" & FAQ Thread (Last Update: 05/31/2011)
Official Atrix "Ask A Dev" & FAQ Thread
So, there's a ton of misinformation and confusion going around about the Atrix. I'm gonna go through this section best I can and pick out questions that I think should be in here. If you have one you'd like added or have a question to ask, post here and I'll answer and update the first post with the results. I will do my best to provide links, explain as best I can, and keep things UP TO DATE (which is the most important thing). I hope that users will see this thread and use it to their advantage. There's a lot of info out there, and I know it can be confusing, so I want to give everyone a place they can come ask questions or read information they know will be up to date. Feel free to ask anything you wish to know and I'll do my best to answer
PLEASE try to keep the thread clean. Post questions, keep discussion at a minimum (if there's a relevant discussion thread, I will link it here), and be polite.
Without further ado, let's get started with the basics.Frequently Asked Question - Updated 05/31/2011
Q: "What is"/"How do I" root?
A: If you don't know what root is, chances are you don't need it. This is the basic of the basics of Android modification. Go ahead and do a little research first if you don't know what it is. You can root almost all Atrix devices using the method in this thread, just identify what device you have an follow the appropriate tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
If your device isn't supported by GladRoot, you can follow this guide by jug6ernaut: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046626
Q: What is a ROM/P-ROM?
A: This is one of the more tricky questions when it comes to the Atrix. Designgears set the standard by calling Adeo a ROM. This is loosely based in truth. When we refer to an Atrix ROM, what we are doing is basic Android customization. It could be themes, a few added features (reboot/recovery in power menu, sideloading, adding a tethering APN for certain carriers, etc), or just an automated install for a deodexed system. They are not true ROMs, but we'll take what we can get.
As of GladiAtrix3 beta, I changed the name of these mods to Pseudo-ROM, or P-ROM for short (yes, pronounced 'prom').
Q: What is an SBF? How do I flash it?
A: An SBF file is the Motorola base firmware. There are only a few SBF files available, and instructions (Thanks to seven2099) to use them can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13604217&postcount=2. The guide was written with the Bell Atrix in mind, but this process will work with any version provided you have the correct SBF for your device. This guide by kennethpenn contains links to a few of the SBFs for AT&T devices: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
It should also be noted that these files are NOT community provided. They are leaked from Motorola, are are technically for internal Motorola use only. Do NOT ask where we get them, how we get them, or if we can make you a custom one. We cannot.
Q: What does "deodex" mean?
A: This guide has a pretty good explanation of what the difference between odexed and deodexed is: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
Q: What is sideloading?
A: Sideloading lets you install any applications, regardless of carrier or market restrictions. This is also sometimes called "Unknown sources." It can be enabled several different ways. Both the GladiAtrix (for 4.1.26, 4.1.52,, 4.1.57, and 4.1.83) and GingerBlur ROMs contain it. You can also enable it using the GladiAtrix Enabler.
Q: <app> in the market doesn't work! Help!
A: There are several applications still that have not been updated to support the Atrix. It uses a lot of new hardware, and does things a little differently. Before jumping on and making a thread saying Motorola sucks for your app not working, contact the developer first and ask them to update.
User Submitted Questions - Updated 04/27/2011
Q: Is there a way to install an apk without finding it and tapping on it? Maybe through terminal emulator and if so what would the command lines be? (submitted by drock212)
A: Yes! You can install applications through ADB on your PC with the command 'adb install <app>.apk' where <app> is the filename of the app you want to install. You can also use a file manager, or as [email protected] mentioned, the Android Market website. Finally, there is a command line that you can use to install: pm install <app>.apk
Q: I have a Bell Atrix (unlocked to work with Rogers). Are there any precautions I need to keep in mind when flashing ROMs, installing the new 1.5.7 update and rooting it all using the At&t files in the Dev forum? (submitted by TareX)
A: Absolutely. As far as I know, you cannot flash any of the AT&T firmwares on a Bell Atrix. This will cause a brick and you will be unable to recover since there isn't a Bell firmware SBF available right now. If anyone has been brave enough to try and flash a Bell Atrix with AT&T firmware and has SUCCEEDED, please let me know.
Q: The atrix has 1GB of ram. Is all of that memory used on the phone or is it like what was rumored and some of it is reserved for the webtop? (submitted by RacecarBMW)
A: The webtop shares memory with the phone side. There is about 800mb free for use by both, with roughly 200mb reserved for system processes.
Q: Are more ROMs in the works? (submitted by danboard)
A: I've been working hard at getting GladiAtrix 2 to a point where I feel comfortable releasing it in CWM format. Unfortunately, I can't speak for other developers. The tools available for the Atrix are relatively limited, and we don't have a very strong base of talented people like other Motorola phones do. I'm pretty proud of what we've managed to accomplish even with such a small userbase.
Q: Can I use my phone on a carrier other than AT&T or Bell? (submitted via PM by [email protected])
A: You can, but you need to make sure that the carrier you want to use the phone on supports the same frequencies as AT&T/Bell. There are a few different ways you can get the phone unlocked. The easiest, and honestly best, way to do it is to call the carrier and ask them for an unlock code. If you're persistent and polite enough, make your case as to why you need the phone unlocked, there's a good chance they'll accommodate. Getting mad and upset rarely works. You can also get an unlock code through several different online sites. This thread talks about sites with unlock codes, and gives you a good idea which to trust. General consensus seems to be that cellunlock.net worked for most users and has a 20$ rebate coupon code: android50
Q: Can I use the Webtop without a dock? (submitted via PM by [email protected])
A: You sure can. It requires modifications to the system files, so if you don't fee comfortable making permanent changes to your phone's OS, you shouldn't be doing this. This thread has a very detailed explanation on how to get it working on your phone, but make sure you match up the proper firmware version or can potentially brick your phone.[/B]
Q: Is there a way to install a full version of linux on the Webtop? (submitted via PM by [email protected])
A: There is a project running to unlock the Webtop OS and allow you full access to install anything you wish. You can read about the progress here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000316
Q: I don't use the webtop. Is there any way to remove it completely to regain the space on the phone? (submitted by Girgizzlemuf)
A: Unfortunately, you cannot. The Webtop is directly integrated into the Android OS, so removing it would render your phone inoperable. I'm unsure if an unlocked bootloader will allow it to be removed either, as the entire build of Android running on the Atrix was built around the Webtop.
Q: Do I need to unlock before rooting, or are the two completely independent from eachother? (submitted by dropshipinc)
A: Unlocking and rooting are not tied together. You can root without unlock, and you an unlock without root. Unlocking is, in most cases, referring to the ability to use the phone on any carrier. This is called SIM unlocking. Rooting gives you root access to your device. On the Atrix, you cannot unlock your phone by having root. Some devices this is the case, but the Atrix is not one of them.
Q: Will installing a rom prevent OTA updates? If so, can they be easily removed so that we can install OTA updates? (submitted by ratkid2271)
A: Installing any of the currently available ROMs will prevent the phone from applying an OTA update. You should still be able to download them, but the installation will fail. As for uninstalling, you should be making a nandroid backup of your phone with CWM before installing any of them. A simple restore of that backup will prep you for an OTA update.
Special Thanks
Thanks to: drock212, TareX, RacecarBMW, danboard, [email protected], Girgizzlemuf, ratkid2271, and dropshipinc for their submissions.
Is there a way to install an apk without finding it and tapping on it? Maybe through terminal emulator and if so what would the command lines be?
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It is possible through site of Android Market. Just log-in and you can search and install any app on your phone
That's the problem market doesn't work. I have the apk on an sd card but phone I need to install apk on does not have a file explorer.
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So propably you need to enable sideloading and apply root then instal this .pak or just use the adb tool (search for "instal apk adb")
drock212,
The Atrix has a default file manager in the app menu called "Files". Once opened, just navigate to "SD card" and click the .apk.
-Opish
Yeah lol the issue isn't with my Atrix its for another phone that im trying to port stuff from my Atrix to it but the other phone is all messed up and the market wont connect and it has no file explorer lol
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I have a Bell Atrix (unlocked to work with Rogers). Are there any precautions I need to keep in mind when flashing ROMs, installing the new 1.5.7 update and rooting it all using the At&t files in the Dev forum?
I bought it off ebay so if I brick it, it's over.
The atrix has 1GB of ram. Is all of that memory used on the phone or is it like what was rumored and some of it is reserved for the webtop?
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That's the problem market doesn't work. I have the apk on an sd card but phone I need to install apk on does not have a file explorer.
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there is a file explorer on the phone, it's called "Files"
Please take the discussion to a new thread. I understand you're trying to help, but send a PM. This is Q&A only. Thanks. Updating first post with answers to the questions shortly.
Are more ROMs in the work? Correct me if I m wrong (as I don't know all that much about what the bootloader limits) but since we now have a CWM of sorts, we're able to pretty much change most parts of the android OS excluding the kernel and radio.
In this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12710040&postcount=6
Kenneth stated that the Milestone had more tools and devs than the atrix to get custom roms like miui to work; the dev part I can understand but which tools exactly was he referring to? A few of the things I could think of were the script mods that were available in the open recovery for the milestone but I believe the Atrix already have these features (just not in the CWM).
So I m just wondering is the Atrix at a point where devs are able to mod it as much as the milestone? or is there still quite a ways to go?
Updated first post! Check it for your answers.
So I understand the awesomeness that is the webtop. However, I have no use for it other than to say 'HAY i got a netbook in my phone wanna see??'
Having said that... is there a way to *remove* the webtop entirely, or is this something we are going to have to wait for in the form of a custom rom / unlocked bootloader?
Girgizzlemuf said:
So I understand the awesomeness that is the webtop. However, I have no use for it other than to say 'HAY i got a netbook in my phone wanna see??'
Having said that... is there a way to *remove* the webtop entirely, or is this something we are going to have to wait for in the form of a custom rom / unlocked bootloader?
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Unfortunately, you cannot. The Webtop is directly integrated into the Android OS, so removing it would render your phone inoperable. I'm unsure if an unlocked bootloader will allow it to be removed either, as the entire build of Android running on the Atrix was built around the Webtop.
I've accidentally partitioned my internal SD storage rendering my phone useless. Had to flash and tried all three AT&T SBF files to no avail. Bottom inch of my touch screen is horrendously off.
Anyway to get this back to the OEM settings? Flashing is no help and I'm getting daemon errors in ADB when I try manually formatting and partitioning it. Any way I could commission you to write a script? Talking to a couple others with this problem too. You'd be a hero!
Nice OP Ririal Thanks for being oh so helpful and contributing to the Atrix! Keep up the good work! I wish I can play with your ROMs Hoping that the Bell's SBF will be leaked one of these days (yes I know...wistful thinking...)
bongd said:
I've accidentally partitioned my internal SD storage rendering my phone useless. Had to flash and tried all three AT&T SBF files to no avail. Bottom inch of my touch screen is horrendously off.
Anyway to get this back to the OEM settings? Flashing is no help and I'm getting daemon errors in ADB when I try manually formatting and partitioning it. Any way I could commission you to write a script? Talking to a couple others with this problem too. You'd be a hero!
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Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you all changed, but this is something that should not have been messed with. Especially with a locked bootloader, you should NOT be repartitioning your device. I would assume that flashing the SBF would fix this, but again, as I'm not sure what you all did I don't really know for sure.
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Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you all changed, but this is something that should not have been messed with. Especially with a locked bootloader, you should NOT be repartitioning your device. I would assume that flashing the SBF would fix this, but again, as I'm not sure what you all did I don't really know for sure.
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Thanks. I know it was erroneous but it was late at night and my contacts were all gunky. I clicked on the wrong thing and the way I was holding my device I had already gotten too far into the menu by clicking too fast
Internal SD was partitioned. Flashing didn't help. Was hoping you may know but that's okay... I'll keep trying.
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Thanks. I know it was erroneous but it was late at night and my contacts were all gunky. I clicked on the wrong thing and the way I was holding my device I had already gotten too far into the menu by clicking too fast
Internal SD was partitioned. Flashing didn't help. Was hoping you may know but that's okay... I'll keep trying.
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Yeah, I wish I could be of more help If you do find out a way to fix it, be sure to let me know or post here, I'll add it up to the FAQ just in case anyone else makes the same mistake. Hope you get it sorted out!
For starters. I am a Nook noob and I am not affraid to admit it.
I have read, read, read, and then read some more about rooting, roms, CWM, CM, and so on and I did puzzle most of the pieces together, but not all.
If I got it right there basically are 3 different roms one can choose for the NT:
Stock rom (the original state)
Stock rom Rooted
Alternate roms: CM (7,8,9), MIUI or any other variation of Android firmware distribution
The usage distribution of the roms can be found in a poll here.
Stock (original) limits you in using full potential of the NT, which typically means that you can not use Google Drive, install/use any apps other then the ones Nook market provides. You can not put apps on the home screen, use any widgets and you are very limited in what you can alterate on the system.
Stock Rooted is the state in which that you are still using the original firmware, however you now have root acces. This means that you have acces to Google Drive and are able to install/use most of the apps on Google Drive on your NT. You can use various launchers to access these apps and can set a launcher as default instead of the original launcher.
The easiest way to get here is by rooting your NT through an SD card. You only need the SD card for the rooting process. The (rooted) firmware remains on the internal memory of the NT.
In this, you:
Still have acces to all the original Nook apps and features (you are still using the original Nook system)
You have the possibility to UNroot the device and turn it fully back to it's original state
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
When going for an alternate rom, you have a diversity of choices, but all are fully seperate roms, that either replaces the original firmware or complements it (dual boot). What you get in return is a fully functional, tweakable Android system, on which the version depends on the rom that you choose. You can access Google Drive, install/use most apps, place widgets, use different launchers, etc.
The easiest way to get here is by using a SD card. I can not find the specific topic that explains the procedure though. It seems that you can choose to maintain the original firmware and place the rom on the (external) SD, which leaves you with a dual boot system, or you can replace the stock rom with the custom rom.
In this, you:
Loose usage of all of the NT's orininal apps and features (when using the custom rom)
What I am not sure about is:
Where in the process you can choose to either place the custom rom on the (external) SD or install in the internal memory.
Are there any other important differences between Stock Rooted and custom rom?
My main question is: Can you confirm my findings and help me answer the questions/uncertainties?
I can imagine this thread would be of help to others who spent a lot of time reading, but are left with some basic questions. That is why I took my time writing it.
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
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Thread moved. While I appreciate the effort you've put into this post by reading up and finding out about all the different ROM's, you need to also look to make sure you post in the correct sections of the forum and this is also stated in the sticky in the General section, not to post questions in General. If your thread is a question/multiple questions and you even tick the "Is this a question box" when creating the thread then you must post it in the relevant Q&A section.
Thanks
AvRS
hd2joel said:
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
@AvRS: I did read the section about no questions in the General Forum's policy. I actually thought I posted in the Q&A but appearantly I didn't. I probably started the thread just before I read that part. Thanks for moving it to the proper section.
chris996 said:
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
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For the first point: Not on firmware 1.4.3, but on lower firmwares you can download an app called Nook Color App Manager (you have to side-load it as it is not in the Play store) that will allow you to do just that.
For the second point: You cannot place widgets on the Stock launcher. You have to install an alternate launcher for widgets.
Also, I think you mean Google Play, not Google Drive.
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
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Unless you re-partition your Nook, you never have access to the full 8/16GB. You only have access to the 1GB MyNook partition. You have to re-partition (or have a B&N store do it for you) to get more space for user apps.
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
chris996 said:
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Just one update on part of the question, answer to 3); Magicjack app works on it.
ShinnAsuka said:
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1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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ShinnAsuka said:
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1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
"Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?" Nope, rooted not rooted on any version will not support direct Skype or Video conferencing app that I know of on NT. This may change once OTG is implemented in future development.
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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for your first question, there is an SD version but it has not been confirmed to work with NT 8GB
You can however make your own internal sd card version using the internal version provided here and instructions that are listed over a succulent's blog: www.iamafanof.wordpress.com
if you aren't all too tech savvy, I would advise against making your own bootable SD, but if want to experiment and learn a thing or two, go for it!
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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There are instructions on how to install/create your own SD Card version of any ROM, you just have to try it out.
Skype isn't supported at all. It will install (according to the Play Store online) on my JB (AOKP) NT16, but I don't think it will run. For one thing, there's no camera or camera support.
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
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BadKid3011 said:
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
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Why not use Magicjack for voip, it free unless you want to get the dongle for less than $30. With video conferencing app like skype, you can only text but what the point of that.
Q: difficulties with finding T-Mobile p769 malware free unlocking & rooting method
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
I can help but I need q favor
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directlyobservable said:
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
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Hey so I just tested the download and you're right, Chrome does block it (although you can get around it)... But back when I had my L9, I downloaded it with firefox and checked it with malwarebytes and it was fine. It's not malicious, or wasn't when I used it. However, most apps that hack devices (rooting apps, modified dlls on computer applications, etc) show as malicious when they're not, it's just the nature by which it's designed. I would recommend allowing the download, to an external flash stick or sd card then scanning it with AV. If you're still uncomfortable with it, use a different method. But, I will say from my experience, it worked for me just fine when I still had my L9.
And yes, this phone is way more complicated to root, unlock, etc. I traded mine in plus some cash for an S3. Couldn't be happier, but when I had my L9, I went through everything on this forum. It was a PITA, but I will say I liked this community- they've worked together and worked hard on these processes to help each other out along with other owners of the L9. I feel they and the methods they put forth are genuine.
directlyobservable said:
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
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I had the same problem. I tried to download the lelus root method and chrome blocked it. I ended up downloading it on my tablet using opera classic browser, then transferred it to my pc and antivirus said that there was a trojan horse in one of the dll's. I'm sure this method is fine to root your device with, as absinthesummer said a lot of modified dll's and rooting apps will show as malicious software. I ended up not using this method though.
I downloaded vroot and then everyone was saying that it steals you personal information. So i didn't use this method either.
The only other one that I didn't hear anything bad about was cydia impactor. Downloaded it without any problems and rooted my ms769 in seconds without any hiccups.
Thanks for the replies absinthesummer & xdrc45. I'm glad it wasn't just me having the problem with the lelus root method, and while I agree with files and rooting apps being recognized as malware, this kind of weirded me out. Oh and @ xdrc45, thanks for the tip about using cydia impactor, I'm definitely going that route.
I have the HTC Desire 816 (Virgin Mobile version).
I was wondering if there was a way to get a "stock" bare version of android for it. When you get this phone it comes preloaded with a lot of junk!!! It comes with some kidsafe software a whole bunch of Virgin mobile junk and all this amazon/twiter/facebook junk.
I've rooted the phone and tried uninstalling it, but it just breaks the phone.
I've tried CM for this phone and it works great but it may not be a daily driver.
I'm curious if anybody knew of ways to effectively remove this software without affecting the operating system and/or there was a minimized version of android for this phone.
steppinthrax said:
I have the HTC Desire 816 (Virgin Mobile version).
I was wondering if there was a way to get a "stock" bare version of android for it. When you get this phone it comes preloaded with a lot of junk!!! It comes with some kidsafe software a whole bunch of Virgin mobile junk and all this amazon/twiter/facebook junk.
I've rooted the phone and tried uninstalling it, but it just breaks the phone.
I've tried CM for this phone and it works great but it may not be a daily driver.
I'm curious if anybody knew of ways to effectively remove this software without affecting the operating system and/or there was a minimized version of android for this phone.
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Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
Tommydorns said:
Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
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It seems like there has to be a way. I remember I was rooting my wife's LG volt. In her volt the rooting process was very complex but involved downloading a LG firmware installer then downloading a LG ROM from somewhere and I flashed it to a basic (bare bones) version of android. Everything worked and it was rooted.
I guess my understanding is false, but could you get a "baseline" android OS with no drivers nothing, install it and extract the drivers from a full version. Place these drivers in your custom ROM and install it on the phone?
In M8 section there is an app called Rom Cleaner maybe its compatible with desire 816. Or use Titanium backup to remove bloatware.
The insert coin rom allows you to remove a lot of apps prior to flashing. After flashing I had 2 gig's of space free.
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I had the same problem because I love stock. I tried almost all the rooted apps (titanium, root uninstaller, rom toolbox) but couldn't seem to delete the system apps. But I found a way to do so.
There's a recovery application called "Aroma file manager" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108
Flash this in recovery and delete all the system apks you want to. Make sure to mount system first before flashing
Cheers.
Parth_14 said:
I had the same problem because I love stock. I tried almost all the rooted apps (titanium, root uninstaller, rom toolbox) but couldn't seem to delete the system apps. But I found a way to do so.
There's a recovery application called "Aroma file manager" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108
Flash this in recovery and delete all the system apks you want to. Make sure to mount system first before flashing
Cheers.
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You couldn't delete the system applications because of the HTC's daft decision to add write protection to the /system partition which (in our case) can only be bypassed by paying 25$ for a Sunshine S-OFF exploit. Aroma file manager is also an option but managing the system from the system itself is way more comfy
Tommydorns said:
Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
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Could you please expand on this? I am intensively considering CM12 as my main ROM and I'd love to hear what kind of problems have you experienced with it.
CrashBandicootX said:
You couldn't delete the system applications because of the HTC's daft decision to add write protection to the /system partition which (in our case) can only be bypassed by paying 25$ for a Sunshine S-OFF exploit. Aroma file manager is also an option but managing the system from the system itself is way more comfy
Could you please expand on this? I am intensively considering CM12 as my main ROM and I'd love to hear what kind of problems have you experienced with it.
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I apologize, I couldn't honestly tell you because it has been a long time ago since I tried CM12. It was different things with each release. I would check the thread thoroughly and ask to see what bugs are present in the latest release. I remember little things like the battery not reading correctly or data not working. I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional. Esp. for my job. That's the closest you're going to get for a stock Android (aosp) rom though. I don't even use the HTC Desire 816 anymore. I ended up giving it to my daughter and I ended up getting the One M9. Good Luck.
Tommydorns said:
I apologize, I couldn't honestly tell you because it has been a long time ago since I tried CM12. It was different things with each release. I would check the thread thoroughly and ask to see what bugs are present in the latest release. I remember little things like the battery not reading correctly or data not working. I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional. Esp. for my job. That's the closest you're going to get for a stock Android (aosp) rom though. I don't even use the HTC Desire 816 anymore. I ended up giving it to my daughter and I ended up getting the One M9. Good Luck.
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I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional.
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I understand, me too - last time I used CM12 everything seemed to work pretty well but I reverted back because of the lack of slow-motion feature (Really a minor thing but I love it).
It's free after all so I'll just wait around until (and if) things get ironed out. Sense isn't half bad at all, I just prefer stock Android.
I just recently purchased a LG Optimus Exceed 2 VS450PP1 Verizon prepaid and I would like to root it, but I'm afraid to use the wrong guide to do so.
I have already done this part: Turn on USB debugging: Settings and enabled the installation of unknown sources.
It seems that Towelroot used to work but no longer does. Can someone post a link to the correct procedure for my phone or the instructions to do so? I already read did a search for my phone and read several pages, but I'm still unsure which procedure will work for my phone.
This is my phone info:
LG Optimus Exceed 2 VS450PP1
Build Number KOT49I,VS450PP1
Software version VS450PP1
Kenel version 3.4.0+
Solved. I used towelroot and Root Checker to my phone, and it is now rooted.
Could you drop the link you got towelroot from, i searched and there were a lot of sites that had it, and i would like to make sure it works
adrw4 said:
Could you drop the link you got towelroot from, i searched and there were a lot of sites that had it, and i would like to make sure it works
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I sure will. Here is the site for towel root. Type this address on your phones browser, and then click on the upside down letter "Y". https://towelroot.com/
And here is a site that shows you what to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795300
I did mine recently for a LG Optimus Exceed 2 VS450PP1, and it's been working great so far.
You may also want to download a file called VS450PP1_04.kdz here. I think this is a backup of the phone software, should it be necessary in the future. This file is not necessary to root your phone, so you save it on some other media than your phones memory. http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lg-vs450pp-exceed-2-help-t2989811
Good luck.
pand8888 said:
I sure will. Here is the site for towel root. Type this address on your phones browser, and then click on the upside down letter "Y". https://towelroot.com/
And here is a site that shows you what to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795300
I did mine recently for a LG Optimus Exceed 2 VS450PP1, and it's been working great so far.
You may also want to download a file called VS450PP1_04.kdz here. I think this is a backup of the phone software, should it be necessary in the future. This file is not necessary to root your phone, so you save it on some other media than your phones memory. http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lg-vs450pp-exceed-2-help-t2989811
Good luck.
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lmao you might be saving me here, if i flash the file you just recomended, will it restore deleted google apps,or gapps as most say?
and thank you for responding politly
adrw4 said:
lmao you might be saving me here, if i flash the file you just recommended, will it restore deleted google apps,or gapps as most say?
and thank you for responding politly
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You're welcome.
I believe the file called VS450PP1_04.kdz is a ROM image for the phone with all the original stuff that came with it. I have not use this image for anything myself, but I believe it can be used to restore the phone back to factory settings as a last resort should things go wrong. I would recommend that after rooting successfully, you install the app called Titanium Backup Pro and let it back up everything to an external usb memory card on the phone. This is probably the better and safer approach to restore something that you had removed and would like back.
You can also go to the google play store and download the latest google apps that you have deleted if so desired.
I should mention that I'm not an expert at this stuff, just a beginner, so my knowledge is limited to what I did to my phone . I only rooted my phone to be able to install apps like Titanium Backup Pro.
I hope this answered your question.