I have the HTC Desire 816 (Virgin Mobile version).
I was wondering if there was a way to get a "stock" bare version of android for it. When you get this phone it comes preloaded with a lot of junk!!! It comes with some kidsafe software a whole bunch of Virgin mobile junk and all this amazon/twiter/facebook junk.
I've rooted the phone and tried uninstalling it, but it just breaks the phone.
I've tried CM for this phone and it works great but it may not be a daily driver.
I'm curious if anybody knew of ways to effectively remove this software without affecting the operating system and/or there was a minimized version of android for this phone.
steppinthrax said:
I have the HTC Desire 816 (Virgin Mobile version).
I was wondering if there was a way to get a "stock" bare version of android for it. When you get this phone it comes preloaded with a lot of junk!!! It comes with some kidsafe software a whole bunch of Virgin mobile junk and all this amazon/twiter/facebook junk.
I've rooted the phone and tried uninstalling it, but it just breaks the phone.
I've tried CM for this phone and it works great but it may not be a daily driver.
I'm curious if anybody knew of ways to effectively remove this software without affecting the operating system and/or there was a minimized version of android for this phone.
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Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
Tommydorns said:
Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
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It seems like there has to be a way. I remember I was rooting my wife's LG volt. In her volt the rooting process was very complex but involved downloading a LG firmware installer then downloading a LG ROM from somewhere and I flashed it to a basic (bare bones) version of android. Everything worked and it was rooted.
I guess my understanding is false, but could you get a "baseline" android OS with no drivers nothing, install it and extract the drivers from a full version. Place these drivers in your custom ROM and install it on the phone?
In M8 section there is an app called Rom Cleaner maybe its compatible with desire 816. Or use Titanium backup to remove bloatware.
The insert coin rom allows you to remove a lot of apps prior to flashing. After flashing I had 2 gig's of space free.
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I had the same problem because I love stock. I tried almost all the rooted apps (titanium, root uninstaller, rom toolbox) but couldn't seem to delete the system apps. But I found a way to do so.
There's a recovery application called "Aroma file manager" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108
Flash this in recovery and delete all the system apks you want to. Make sure to mount system first before flashing
Cheers.
Parth_14 said:
I had the same problem because I love stock. I tried almost all the rooted apps (titanium, root uninstaller, rom toolbox) but couldn't seem to delete the system apps. But I found a way to do so.
There's a recovery application called "Aroma file manager" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108
Flash this in recovery and delete all the system apks you want to. Make sure to mount system first before flashing
Cheers.
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You couldn't delete the system applications because of the HTC's daft decision to add write protection to the /system partition which (in our case) can only be bypassed by paying 25$ for a Sunshine S-OFF exploit. Aroma file manager is also an option but managing the system from the system itself is way more comfy
Tommydorns said:
Sorry to say, I believe the only way to use this phone as stock would be CM. As you obviously know, it isn't 100% functional or even close.
I believe you posted this in the wrong forum also.
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Could you please expand on this? I am intensively considering CM12 as my main ROM and I'd love to hear what kind of problems have you experienced with it.
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You couldn't delete the system applications because of the HTC's daft decision to add write protection to the /system partition which (in our case) can only be bypassed by paying 25$ for a Sunshine S-OFF exploit. Aroma file manager is also an option but managing the system from the system itself is way more comfy
Could you please expand on this? I am intensively considering CM12 as my main ROM and I'd love to hear what kind of problems have you experienced with it.
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I apologize, I couldn't honestly tell you because it has been a long time ago since I tried CM12. It was different things with each release. I would check the thread thoroughly and ask to see what bugs are present in the latest release. I remember little things like the battery not reading correctly or data not working. I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional. Esp. for my job. That's the closest you're going to get for a stock Android (aosp) rom though. I don't even use the HTC Desire 816 anymore. I ended up giving it to my daughter and I ended up getting the One M9. Good Luck.
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I apologize, I couldn't honestly tell you because it has been a long time ago since I tried CM12. It was different things with each release. I would check the thread thoroughly and ask to see what bugs are present in the latest release. I remember little things like the battery not reading correctly or data not working. I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional. Esp. for my job. That's the closest you're going to get for a stock Android (aosp) rom though. I don't even use the HTC Desire 816 anymore. I ended up giving it to my daughter and I ended up getting the One M9. Good Luck.
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I'm the type of person that needs something that is 100% functional.
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I understand, me too - last time I used CM12 everything seemed to work pretty well but I reverted back because of the lack of slow-motion feature (Really a minor thing but I love it).
It's free after all so I'll just wait around until (and if) things get ironed out. Sense isn't half bad at all, I just prefer stock Android.
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I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
Pexcer,
It all depends on what you want. That's what the choices XDA offers here are all
about.
When we started with G-Tablets back last fall, the software was so bad it was
almost unfunctional. It has improved with each update. With 4349 installed you
can put your apps on it and have a functional tablet -- but whether it is good enough
for you is your call.
There are a number of alternate ROMs and each has it assets and liabilities.
The only way I know to approach it is to read the threads related to each rom and
see what those advantages and disadvantages are. You can eliminate some that way.
And whatever you have left, you will just have to try and see what you like.
I know this is not the "Go use the _______________ rom" that a lot of people will
give you -- but I'm not pandering for anybody's rom. I believe everyone should
research, try and make their own choice.
Rev
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I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
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I'm more inclined to go with the fastest rom I can get my hands on. I don't care about looks. And stock rom will never be able to fun as fast as custom rom.
That said, you should make this decision on your own. Depends on what you want. If you are like my brother in law who wants everything to be official and fully officially supported, then I suggest you stay with the stock upgraded rom. If you're like me who doesn't care that it's the official release and would rather have a super fast tablet, then custom rom is definitely the way to go.
In another thread, I was endorsing the new calk/clems combo v3, which my quadrant test resulted in 4081. I've posted a picture in this post. Right now, the only thing that seems to be faster than this is the modded xoom, which is only about 80 more. I highly doubt the stock rom will ever be able to give us this much power.
Thanks for the response. I may try the stock UI for a few days when I get it. I have been having difficulty in really seeing the differences between the different ROMs out there though. One thing I plan to do a lot is watch TV shows I've downloaded from TVtorrents, these are 720p x264 in an MKV, is there one mod that can handle Video like that or is that a non issue. I can also grab non HD formats which would have a higher chance of working, but would rather not.
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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Torrents blows goats. their download speeds are as fast as my original G Tab os. File Hosting is the way to roll.
Off my soapbox, I agree with goodintentions. Speed and stability is the key. after that, ADW, 3D Launcher, VTLauncher and a few other Home screen launchers can customize your experience. let us know how yours runs. I won't go that route until the ROM's for it (1.2) are out and stable.
I don't have the newest update that just came out, so I can't comment on that. But I can mention why I went back to the stock ROM. I got my g tablet when woot was selling them. I left the stock rom on for a week and it worked pretty well as a shared device between me and my wife. The stock apps let you keep separate accounts. I put on clockwork and formatted the drive as recommended, then I tried TNT lite, g harmony, and cyanogen. They make your tablet like a big phone. When you sign in to the google apps, all you contacts, calendar, and emails are imported. This didn't work so well as a shared tablet. I decided to leave clockwork mod and the recommended formatting but put the original ROM back on. With the proper formatting, the thing isn't too bad. Probably not as fast as some of the folks here would like, but it serves our purpose as a shared device.
Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
Try a bunch of ROMs
I agree with enigma. I got my Gtablet last week and immediately updated hoping that the new stock ROM was good enough. It isn't. It's slow and "chunky" plus doesn't have access to the Android market.
I've heard good stuff about the calkulin/clemsyn and Vegan. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
I'm new to Android as well so don't get too hung up on the difficulty of installing ROMs. There are very clear, step by step instructions to be found here. Each install takes maybe 15 minutes. So in an afternoon you could easily install and play with half a dozen ROMs before deciding on which you like better.
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Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
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if you need vpn, cifs then you need a custom ROM
It depends on what capabilities you want. I need VPN and COFS so I use TNTL 4.4. Also, you can install alternate keybaords. The custom ROMs also tend to fix a lot of issues.
Shame on Viewsonic for locking bootloader in the 1.2 branch.
ConfuciusTse said:
. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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haha, GB is good almost HC good so far.
Is there any site or source on the web that provides downloads of old versions of Android Market apps? This would be for apps that are now updated or no longer available on the Market? I am looking for a site similar to "OldVersion.com" which has some old/classic PC software (but this would be something for android apps instead)?
Thanks if anyone knows of a source or sites.
CustomShortcut gone?
The app that I am looking for in the above post was a free one called CustomShortcut APK. I now have it on one of my two phones (the other phone had it but was lost and replaced). I have tried looking for a developer page for this app but no luck as everything seems to point back to android market as the source link for download.
Does anyone know of a way or source for me to get this APK back on my other phone? Is there a way to copy it from one phone to the other? I am assuming that it was removed from the market because it may not be compatible with ICS but I am not running ICS. The application was made by appli.club.
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
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Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
just google for any app you want like this:
"title" "versionnumber" "apk" "download"
for example:
android market 2.9 apk download
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
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Well I am not really too concerned about it wiping out my phone, but I thought I had read many posts here talking about once you root your phone the native skin from the manufacturer is eliminated (for HTC that would be the "Sense" user interface). Can you please confirm? Is this not true? HTC Sense will remain exactly the same after rooting my phone?
The other thing that has made me cautious is that my phone runs perfectly now and I see so many threads on the xda boards here and over at various android forums that start off with "My ____ app is not working right since I rooted...." Just a little daunting for a newbie like myself.
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I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Thanks very much for the site suggestion. I have been trying to search for the CustomShortcut APK over there but no luck ...so far (the site search is not that easy to use). I have even tried to seach the site externally using google but, unfortunately, still no luck.
Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
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Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
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yes you can unroot. As for easy access after you are rooted to vulnerable areas, they can only get access if you let them. If an app wants super user privileges, you will get a pop up from su(the super user apk) telling you that some app is wanting privileges. You can grant or deny access. The only things on my phone that have ever given me a pop up are things that i downloaded and know need su access. Wifi tether, root explorer, adfree, etc.
I have found a site that keeps older version of an android app. It's called Android Drawer.
Hope it helps
I am rooted on a Verizon Note 2 Android 4.1.1 using Exynos Abuse. I used the Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to keep from being updated or whatever. I have heard Verizon just rolled out 4.1.2. I would like to update.
Could someone explain how to do this without losing my root? I would like to remain w/ the ease of Exynos but if i need to learn to do it another method I guess i will.
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I am rooted on a Verizon Note 2 Android 4.1.1 using Exynos Abuse. I used the Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to keep from being updated or whatever. I have heard Verizon just rolled out 4.1.2. I would like to update.
Could someone explain how to do this without losing my root? I would like to remain w/ the ease of Exynos but if i need to learn to do it another method I guess i will.
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With mine i did a back up of my root, defrosted SDL (had it frozen for some reason,maybe to keep myself from auto accepting updates?), ran the update, after a couple reboots. Opened Voodoo and restored my root and i was good to go.
Good Luck
Ok. trying to figure out exactly how to do that. I used OTA Rootkeeper to 'unroot' my device. Basically i pressed the Temp.un-root button. closed program. I don't even know what SDL is so i am pretty sure it isn't frozen.
Next i went to setthigns and About phone -- pressed Software update. after about 10 seconds i get a pop up that says "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped.
So it won't update. Not sure what i am doing wrong
curious
Curious as to why you would want to upgrade to 4.1.2 when the hacks and mods available on 4.1 far exceed that of which 4.1.2 offer. you should have all apps in multi window.. 23 toggle task manager.. with root you can freeze or disable all bloat just curious?
Seriously its a very very minor update if I upgraded it would be to 4.2 and the very least
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Curious as to why you would want to upgrade to 4.1.2 when the hacks and mods available on 4.1 far exceed that of which 4.1.2 offer. you should have all apps in multi window.. 23 toggle task manager.. with root you can freeze or disable all bloat just curious?
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you have a very good point. I have no real reason. I just figured 'latest and greatest.' I do, however, want to be able to do it when the time comes 4.2. I really don't run any mods. I only am rooted for the ad blocker and titanium backup. I am looking up 23 toggle task manager now.
I guess i thought i was missing out on something if i don't update. I read in another thread someone talking about the "radio" being updated. I don't have bad reception or anything , but i get nervous when i see something like that is updated and i dont know if mine is 'good enough' anymore.
edit: ok i googled "23 toggle task manager" with quotations.. this tread is the only one on the entire internet that showed up as a result. Is there a different name for that mod?
where would i find it, or info about it?
okay
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you have a very good point. I have no real reason. I just figured 'latest and greatest.' I do, however, want to be able to do it when the time comes 4.2. I really don't run any mods. I only am rooted for the ad blocker and titanium backup. I am looking up 23 toggle task manager now.
I guess i thought i was missing out on something if i don't update. I read in another thread someone talking about the "radio" being updated. I don't have bad reception or anything , but i get nervous when i see something like that is updated and i dont know if mine is 'good enough' anymore.
edit: ok i googled "23 toggle task manager" with quotations.. this tread is the only one on the entire internet that showed up as a result. Is there a different name for that mod?
where would i find it, or info about it?
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My advice is hit it with Adams casual and unlock the bootloader and of course twrp. I am seeing a fair number of people on your situation losing root and ending up with messed up phones.
Get it unlocked do you are safe moving forward.
Then all you have to do is use twrp to flash bean's stock 4.1.2 which is rooted. He had that up within hours of the update rolling.
Your check for updates is failing because at some point you renamed the apk for it to prevent updates. I forget the name of it. It's mentioned here somewhere.
Thanks to everyone that helped and thanks to lwsoccjs for the link to 23 toggle. I ended up taking the plunge and doing casual and teamwin last night as TonikJDK suggested. I have kind of been wanting to do it anyway but wasn't sure where to start. After reading TonikJDK's post i looked up Casual read a few how-to's about it. Seemed pretty easy. (so far so good)
I upgraded to 4.1.2 using 'beans' version. I think i may still use 23 toggle though. I will probably experiment now with a few different roms just to see what is out there, but i will probably end up keeping it stock, assuming i don't find something that blows it away.
Any suggestions on where to start for a few roms to 'play with?'
I am quite sure i want to keep with a touchwiz style ROM but i may try a 100% stock android becasue this is my first android and i've never used 100% stock before.
Is there a main depository of ROMS? a one-stop-shop so to speak?
thanks again for the help! I hope you guys didn't send me down the path to a new 'addiction!'
~mike
crash613 said:
Thanks to everyone that helped and thanks to lwsoccjs for the link to 23 toggle. I ended up taking the plunge and doing casual and teamwin last night as TonikJDK suggested. I have kind of been wanting to do it anyway but wasn't sure where to start. After reading TonikJDK's post i looked up Casual read a few how-to's about it. Seemed pretty easy. (so far so good)
I upgraded to 4.1.2 using 'beans' version. I think i may still use 23 toggle though. I will probably experiment now with a few different roms just to see what is out there, but i will probably end up keeping it stock, assuming i don't find something that blows it away.
Any suggestions on where to start for a few roms to 'play with?'
I am quite sure i want to keep with a touchwiz style ROM but i may try a 100% stock android becasue this is my first android and i've never used 100% stock before.
Is there a main depository of ROMS? a one-stop-shop so to speak?
thanks again for the help! I hope you guys didn't send me down the path to a new 'addiction!'
~mike
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There isnt really a one stop shop for rom on the Note 2, XDA has pretty much everything posted to it thats available for the VZW Note 2. There may be one or 2 mods posted to rootzwiki that arent on XDA but I havent really checked it out because a lot of it is outdated and the mods I use are posted here, on the S3 it was a whole different story.
As for trying AOSP, stock android, I would advise you do it just to see how you like it. I was new to AOSP with my S3, all my other phones had locked bootloaders to that point, and I gave it a try and absolutely loved it. All I ran on my S3 was ParanoidAndroid and MIUI. You may decide you dont like it as much as stock TW on the Note 2 but its always good to test it out and see for yourself because its such a different experience.
A few things to remember with AOSP are that when you flash it your SD card has to be FAT32, NTFS definitely doesnt work and I dont think exfat does either but I may be wrong with exfat. If you dont have your card formatted as FAT32 it will corrupt everything on your SD, of course when you format the SD card (if it isnt already FAT32) you need to make a backup of everything on it because formatting wipes the card. Also when switching to AOSP, 4.2 and up, it has a different file structure than 4.1 which is what we have. That means your stuff will be in a different location on your SD card after you flash an AOSP rom but it isnt hard to find. Also when you switch back to TW you have to flash a SD card zip, that restores the file structure to what it was when you were using Touchwiz, after you flash the rom.
If you want some suggestions I would recommend Cyanogenmod is the closest you can get to straight AOSP until someone builds straight AOSP for our phone,ParanoidAndroid is Cyanogenmod based AOSP that lets you change apps to different modes to looks like tablet or phone apps and looks excellent on this phone just because of its size, and Vanilla Rootbox is Cyanogenmod based (as are pretty much all AOSP apps unless its straight AOSP) AOSP rom with things taken or kanged from ParanoidAndroid and others.
I prefer Vanilla Rootbox and ParanoidAndroid on this phone just because they both have some amazing features that make this phone more of what it should have been in the first place IMHO.
The S-pen will still work on AOSP roms but it wont have the features it does on a TW based rom because it is dependant on TW. A remedy to that is GMD Spen control, you can get it from the Play store, a little over $5 if I remember correctly, but you can even use it on TW and it adds a whole slew of features that really should have been in the stock TW rom.
I may be forgetting something seeing as how I wrote this up for a friend a few days ago, he got his first android and it happens to be a Note 2. I really feel as if I did but can't think of what it is....
If you have any more questions just ask away and someone will answer them!
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A few things to remember with AOSP are that when you flash it your SD card has to be FAT32, NTFS definitely doesnt work and I dont think exfat does either but I may be wrong with exfat. If you dont have your card formatted as FAT32 it will corrupt everything on your SD, of course when you format the SD card (if it isnt already FAT32) you need to make a backup of everything on it because formatting wipes the card. Also when switching to AOSP, 4.2 and up, it has a different file structure than 4.1 which is what we have. That means your stuff will be in a different location on your SD card after you flash an AOSP rom but it isnt hard to find. Also when you switch back to TW you have to flash a SD card zip, that restores the file structure to what it was when you were using Touchwiz, after you flash the rom.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Could you elaborate on the above. What stuff will be moved? Lots of stuff? will i even realize it ? does putting back just mean renaming folders?
What does "i have to flash a SD card zip" mean? Do u mean for the ROM or is there a way to restore file structure w/ some sort of hack or something?
Also, what do you think of Liquid Jellybean? I saw it available when looking at GooManager. Thought it would be a good one to check out. Version 2.3! it will be years before Verizon catches up to that.
There are at least 5 different bootloader/root methods and topics on the first page of "Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769 General"...it's a "maze" of methods.
I have some experience with rooting...I rooted my old G2x and played with several different ROMs, but I am definitely still a noob at this game. This maze of methods makes me want to run away from my son's P769, but I can't because he is out of memory space and insisting that I do something about it. I have read several threads only to learn (a couple of pages into it) that it doesn't apply to ver. 20h or that the programs to be used are deemed "suspicious".
All I want to do is give the kid more space through the use of a larger sd card (class 10). I understand that I need to root and then either keep the stock ROM and use an app like Link2sd (which is all the kid really needs because he will not take advantage of a custom ROM) or I can run a custom ROM that takes proper advantage of the sd card in the first place.
Sorry, but I need to quit reading threads that lead to nowhere or confusion and just ask: Will anybody help me make a decision as to what method to go with? I'm not concerned about it being super-simple, I just want to be sure that it works for the kid's phone (ver. 20h) and that it's safe (in terms of malware). A little clarification on the bootloader/root thing would help too: I have to unlock the bootloader first, then root? or is it the other way around? or are they done at the same time?
OK there's two ways to look at root, it is either done at the same time as flashing a new ROM(because the ROM's come with root access) or you can root it with the Chinese program on stock ROM. If you want a custom ROM it's doable but a total pain, I still haven't done it to mine because it requires a data plan and I don't have one. Its kinda like this, downgrade the os with a kmz meant for a p760, have weird mirrored issues with bootloader and os and touches, flash radio fix , wait 30 min to an hour with data and WiFi connected, pray you received an unlock token and reboot to unlocking screen. That's the process in a nutshell, here's an actual tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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OK there's two ways to look at root, it is either done at the same time as flashing a new ROM(because the ROM's come with root access) or you can root it with the Chinese program on stock ROM. If you want a custom ROM it's doable but a total pain, I still haven't done it to mine because it requires a data plan and I don't have one. Its kinda like this, downgrade the os with a kmz meant for a p760, have weird mirrored issues with bootloader and os and touches, flash radio fix , wait 30 min to an hour with data and WiFi connected, pray you received an unlock token and reboot to unlocking screen. That's the process in a nutshell, here's an actual tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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OK...forget the custom ROM...he's just a kid that wants more stupid games and videos on his phone...all he needs is more space. So what you're saying is to use the "Chinese program" to root it. OK...I will find the "Chinese program", but I'll ask first: does it work on ALL versions (particularly v. 20h).
Thanks for taking your time...it's appreciated.
It should work on that version, it did on mine and I have the same version, here's a link to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553547
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It should work on that version, it did on mine and I have the same version, here's a link to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553547
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K...but isn't that the VRoot prog with all the suspicion surrounding it? Some of the threads I have read about this prog are actually closed by the moderators "until further notice" or until it's fully investigated...do we have an "all clear" on this?
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K...but isn't that the VRoot prog with all the suspicion surrounding it? Some of the threads I have read about this prog are actually closed by the moderators "until further notice" or until it's fully investigated...do we have an "all clear" on this?
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There's no issue with that program. People don't read directions 99% of the time, can't get it to work so they report it as being faulty. I used the same app to root my P769V20H. Only difference now is there is actually an English version, so I've heard.
You may have to enable init.d support on the stock ROM before using something like Link2SD. I currently am not having any storage issues, 32 GB sdcard, so I cannot say if Link2SD will work or not. I did notice that there was NOT an init.d folder in my system image, which is required of Link2SD in order to work correctly. You may want to look in to this thread for enabling init.d support.
I'd also advise downloading and installing the bootstrap recovery for L9 devices with a locked bootloader. It's called L9_Recovery_Installer.1.5.0.apk. Search the L9 forums for a download link. After installing, boot in to CWM and perform a backup. This will give you something to restore to just in case something goes wonky in the future.
I ended up installing and using Cydia Impactor for root, installing the bootstrap recovery that was suggested, installing and using Universal Init.d, MiniTool Partition, and Link2SD. Seems to work fine, although I'm still having a hard time grasping why the extra space provided by the new Ext2 partition on the SDcard isn't displayed in System Settings/Storage/Internal Storage.
Thanks to all
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Seems to work fine, although I'm still having a hard time grasping why the extra space provided by the new Ext2 partition on the SDcard isn't displayed in System Settings/Storage/Internal Storage.
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It's because most stock ROMs aren't configured to search for extended partitions. You can view all partition infos with Link2SD.
so i never modded or rommed my phone this time. and nearly 2 years after, my phone is slow as hell. is this natural--just bloat builds up over time? if i try to send someone 2 consecutive texts, i have to wait ~1 second after the first text before i can type the next because of lag
i was wondering if updating my OS would help here, or ironically make it worse because of the old hardware.
thanks!
The S III is a good piece of hardware.
If you just update the ROM probably it will remain slow.
To speed up things you should root, backup your apps using good backup utility. I use Titanium Backup.
Take a look here: [Guide] Noobs guide to use Titanium Backup for backup and restore of apps.
Then you must wipe your phone, install a new rom, either stock or custom, restore apps and your phone will be up to speed again.
Titanium can also restore messages, call log and wifi accounts, but use the xml version of backups to restore.
And DO NOT restore system apps or other system data.
Sergio Barbosa said:
The S III is a good piece of hardware.
If you just update the ROM probably it will remain slow.
To speed up things you should root, backup your apps using good backup utility. I use Titanium Backup.
Take a look here: [Guide] Noobs guide to use Titanium Backup for backup and restore of apps.
Then you must wipe your phone, install a new rom, either stock or custom, restore apps and your phone will be up to speed again.
Titanium can also restore messages, call log and wifi accounts, but use the xml version of backups to restore.
And DO NOT restore system apps or other system data.
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can you explain to me why my phone is slow as a dog right now though? just want to learn so i can plan preventative measures for next time.
drcrappants said:
can you explain to me why my phone is slow as a dog right now though? just want to learn so i can plan preventative measures for next time.
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Just normal OS behavior after a few years of use, running dozens of apps and installing and uninstalling a lot more.
Also happens with windows. I always do a fresh install of Windows when moving to a new version.
As your phone runs 24/7 all the time it will become slower.
Sure you may take some preventive measures, but my advise is to use it to the fullest and just do a clean reinstall if/when you feel it is necessary.
And if you just do a dirty install, without a wipe, all crap and leftovers accumulated over time will remain there.
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Just normal OS behavior after a few years of use, running dozens of apps and installing and uninstalling a lot more.
Also happens with windows. I always do a fresh install of Windows when moving to a new version.
As your phone runs 24/7 all the time it will become slower.
Sure you may take some preventive measures, but my advise is to use it to the fullest and just do a clean reinstall if/when you feel it is necessary.
And if you just do a dirty install, without a wipe, all crap and leftovers accumulated over time will remain there.
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Please do not compare it to windows as this is not completely true. Read up on linux based operating systems.
Install a 4.4.4 rom to benefit from better security and features or atleast reset the phone if that is as far as you want to go,
your firmware your running is probably outdated for this newer stuff, when the art changes in the system you need to update a couple of things in the system or hardware for it too work. If id were you id update my firmware, modem, and bootloader but just make sure you don't update with sammy's new knox special feature lol.
After updating to the latest stock ROM, removing knox is not a problem with Chainfire's root method.
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After updating to the latest stock ROM, removing knox is not a problem with Chainfire's root method.
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Thank you,! get this, so now I'm getting a fail on Odin when trying to upgrade my firmware? If you have kies installed on your pc could that be the issue? I'm also un-rooted.
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A very simple way to update the phone would be to download the latest stock ROM from sammobile.com and flash it with Odin.
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A very simple way to update the phone would be to download the latest stock ROM from sammobile.com and flash it with Odin.
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Model GT-I9300
Model name GALAXY S Ⅲ
Country Iraq
Version Android 4.3
Changelist 2897066
Build date Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:46:13 +0000
Security Patch Level N/A
Product code MID
PDA I9300XXUGPB1
CSC I9300OJVGPB1
in 2016 and they managed to released yet another 4.3 Stock ROM??!! I don't belong to that region but it looks like an international ROM, I am on 4.3 2013 firmware. should we upgrade as well? anyone tried the new 2016 ones?
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Thank you,! get this, so now I'm getting a fail on Odin when trying to upgrade my firmware? If you have kies installed on your pc could that be the issue? I'm also un-rooted.
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What error are you getting in Odin? Are you able to post he Odin log?
Just thought I'd chime in with some proper explanations.
Your phone has bogged down because the hardware is old now and most apps consume more CPU power than the phone can provide. Couple this with the ever expanding nature for RAM and the device will be under a lot of demand. Devices now are at least twice the hardware.
Now to the operating system itself. Android is not windows, nor linux, nor Unix. It is CLOSEST to Unix, derived from Linux and nowhere near windows even if you're blind and deaf and can't tell the difference. It really is a "bastard". The nature of android is to cache data for speed. Once this cache is full or resources run low, or android just can't kill an app for whatever reason it will bog the os down so bad the device will become unusable. I could demonstrate this VERY easily by filling up the internal memory with crap apps and dumb data and watch the device slow to a standstill (even the htc m9 I'm writing this on right now is susceptible). It's the nature of Android that causes the bogging down because it has run out of resources. It is THAT simple!.
Can we solve this bogging down by shutting down the offending apps with things like "greenify" or "hibernation"?.
The answer to that is "NO". Short and simple, you'll make the situation much worse if you attempt to hibernate apps. This is because the os will call for the app under its "normal allowances" which are defined by "permissions", you may have noticed these on some of the googleplay "read more" page when browsing an app. There are also permissions that you cannot see, one example would be "startup" which allows the app to start when the phone boots up. You CAN stop these startup apps at boot but if they continue to run you're best leaving that app alone. The reason being is that the OS will call the app, the app WILL respond. Then whatever app you're using to "control" other apps will detect the call and intervene, attempting to shut the process amd services down, the OS will detect this as a fail to load so it'll invoke (call) the process and service again, the "control" app steps in, rinse and repeat. Without knowing you've just waged a war in your phone between 2 apps and the OS. This will murder the resources and battery power.
So, after 2 years of normal operation your phone has become slow. You now know that the problem is that the phone is outdated because it is struggling to provide for the resource hungry apps that are out there (this is about as "in common" with windows as it gets).
Custom roms will be a waste of time. The reason is that custom roms are open source code, are very rarely optimised and not really compatible with the proprietary hardware they have to control. Although you can unlock extra potential it will be countered by the poorly written code. The custom rom will bog down in half the time of an official firmware.
I'm afraid I'll have to be the first to admit that your phone has now surpassed its life cycle. The only way to get better performance at this stage is to upgrade to a more powerful device. Not exactly the news you WANT to hear but it is the most honest advice you will find in this thread.
A LOT of people don't quite understand how android works as an operating system but they'll be quick to give you advice that is only partly true or not true at all.
The odin problem. Kies can be installed but the processes must NOT be running. Stop the kies processes in task manager.
As audit13 said, the output window in odin, we need to see that so we can determine whats wrong. We also need you to make sure you know what model s3 you have and that you have the correct firmware for your phone. Double check them in the settings menu.
Beamed in by telepathy.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-s3-i9300-4-3-based-stock-rom-t3338959/page2
Try this , I think this can help you !! Good luck