Wish to know if this Amazing app supports Sony devices like Xperia SP ?
also is 1 GB ram enough to run it nicely or it will be laggy ? -regarding one touch themes or complicated themes demonstrated by tutorials-
Thanks In Advance
It will work fine i can tell.
lolpok said:
It will work fine i can tell.
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Hope so
Thanks
512 ram?
how about 512mb of RAM?
boring sick with the stock theme.
undernet_zero said:
how about 512mb of RAM?
boring sick with the stock theme.
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I have Ace plus with 512 Ram and it is a little laggy in some themes, and very laggy in more complexed ones, I used custom ROMs that did a better job
M7mdA7md7sein said:
I have Ace plus with 512 Ram and it is a little laggy in some themes, and very laggy in more complexed ones, I used custom ROMs that did a better job
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can you recommend themer's theme that at least a bit more operable for everyday use, for my mini pro?
btw, what is your custom rom? does it have unusual theme? i like MIUI, but still didn't get the best ROM performance for my taste.
Worked fine on my old HTC Desire S with 768MB of RAM. I think it will work fine on your newer phone with 1GB of RAM.
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can you recommend themer's theme that at least a bit more operable for everyday use, for my mini pro?
btw, what is your custom rom? does it have unusual theme? i like MIUI, but still didn't get the best ROM performance for my taste.
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* I didn't try Themer yet, but I am sure that it is Amazing
as my Ace plus resolution is : 320 x 480 pixels which is not supported by themer yet
but I applied some of MyColorScreen themes manually, some were great some were soo laggy
* I use Inspiration ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952839
It was a great improvement for me over the original one in Visual Style and Performance
Not sure if the deference is comparable to other devices' ROMs or not
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Worked fine on my old HTC Desire S with 768MB of RAM. I think it will work fine on your newer phone with 1GB of RAM.
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Great
Hope so..
Thanks a lot
well I have a Gsmart Roma R2, which with 480*800 resolution just passes the bar of support. It has 1GB of RAM and Themer works solidly even with more complex themes. I have not seen lags in the system (unless some game like Temple Run 2 was still on in the background)
M7mdA7md7sein said:
Wish to know if this Amazing app supports Sony devices like Xperia SP ?
also is 1 GB ram enough to run it nicely or it will be laggy ? -regarding one touch themes or complicated themes demonstrated by tutorials-
Thanks In Advance
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I don't think y need more than 1 G if you don't play games.
lockdalf said:
well I have a Gsmart Roma R2, which with 480*800 resolution just passes the bar of support. It has 1GB of RAM and Themer works solidly even with more complex themes. I have not seen lags in the system (unless some game like Temple Run 2 was still on in the background)
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I don't think y need more than 1 G if you don't play games.
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Thanks a looot, Guys
1gb ram is enough definitely, but humans want more even though its enough. :laugh:
hmmm
I wonder how this would be on a note 3 with the 3 GB of ram
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1gb ram is enough definitely, but humans want more even though its enough. :laugh:
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Well, if you take into account how much RAM is actually reserved by the system (which varies phone to phone depending on add-on UIs, android versions and such), how much is taken by the apps and services running in the background (like sync account, weather, news, mail, facebook, twitter,... you get the drift). It might not be enough at all... Plus you have to take widgets into account. The more complex and the bigger amount of them running constantly takes up some memory, too.
I have noticed that Themer always takes about 40MB on my phone and that is not very light weight. I am comparing it to the last phone I had that was an entry level with amazing 256 MB of RAM so 40MB consumption would have been a killer for it. The launchers I used on it were maybe a bit less flexible when it came to theming (since I am a greedy guy and would not pay for the pro versions;o]]]) but they were still recommended by mycolorscreen for some of the builds and, if I remember correctly, they took somewhere between 11 and 17MB only.
That said, even if I have all connections (besides radio of course) turned off, I sometimes experience a slight lag with 1GB RAM. Though the phone is definitely not a high end wonder machine so I did not have huge expectations of it. The fact that it features vanilla android with few apps pre-installed and no UI modifications probably adds to the speed it runs at and that keeps me well satisfied.
So, gaming or no gaming, in the end it all comes down to the usage of the phone. If you do not play but you use many different apps on your phone (especialy if they have a background service using your internet connection), 1GB may still be not enough for you...
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I had tried two ICS roms so far as we lose over 100mb in useable ram going from gingerbread to ice cream sandwich. Just wondering if all of the ICS roms are like that or not?
Any idea why we lose 100mb? I'd really like to have it back
It seems like that RAM is being allocated to integrated graphics and I did notice this across the board between dagr8's and smartguys port of team perfection ROMS.
Subscribed for more information, good question if we can change allocation.
Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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There's this misconception that used RAM = slower, laggier performance and that also is not the case.
People need to check their Windows PC conceptualization of RAM usage at the door.
-Ryan
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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you are correct. Samsung dedicated more ram to the video card, which is probably to fix the black crush and gradient issues that are in the stock rom. Apparently the video ram allocated in gingerbread cant drive this monstrous display like they thought.
it does suck losing it, because its just that much less left for multitasking, but it fixed the display issues so its a good trade off for me.
also, this issue is not in android devices with tegra 3. With tegra 3 the video card has dedicated video ram, meaning that a 1gb android device shows 1 gb of total ram since its not shared with the video card. This is great because it means better multitasking because more apps stay in memory.
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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The obsession with usable ram is smoothness, it makes a difference, if it didn't why aren't we still all using 512mb phones?
Once the ram is filled up swapping has to occur, when this happens cpu cycles and flash read/write cycles are introduced and they slow down your experience..
Losing 100mb of ram is a big deal, its over 33% of available ram for me. And it does effect performance unfortunately.
ryandelman said:
There's this misconception that used RAM = slower, laggier performance and that also is not the case.
People need to check their Windows PC conceptualization of RAM usage at the door.
-Ryan
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It feel totally makes a difference, I have been complaining about this issue for the longest and all I hear is that it doesn't do anything to our phone. If it doesn't do anything why do I keep getting a message that states that I have no more ram and that it will close everything to free up ram. This is one thing that I really don't like about Android, I sure hope that this changes in the future, because no matter how much ram is installed on our phone we will always have an issue because we cant control what apps we can fully close..
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The obsession with usable ram is smoothness, it makes a difference, if it didn't why aren't we still all using 512mb phones?
Once the ram is filled up swapping has to occur, when this happens cpu cycles and flash read/write cycles are introduced and they slow down your experience..
Losing 100mb of ram is a big deal, its over 33% of available ram for me. And it does effect performance unfortunately.
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100=1000/3? You might want to double check that one.
No matter how many tabs I open in chrome, along with beautiful widgets and Facebook, 2 email accounting syncing and Engadget, joystick, reddit and XDA apps running I never take a performance hit.
My advice is to spend less time running quadrant, your rams are being out to good use.
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100=1000/3? You might want to double check that one.
No matter how many tabs I open in chrome, along with beautiful widgets and Facebook, 2 email accounting syncing and Engadget, joystick, reddit and XDA apps running I never take a performance hit.
My advice is to spend less time running quadrant, your rams are being out to good use.
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I think he meant 1/3 of free ram. Typically a stock gingerbread from had 320-350mb free ram.
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I think he meant 1/3 of free ram. Typically a stock gingerbread from had 320-350mb free ram.
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Correct.. I lost 100mb or so of free ram, which forces the phone to swap more often. If we lost it to help the video card then that's fine, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something else.
Maybe with an official build of ICS the sluggishness will be better...
Interesting point here... I saw a screen shot of an international Note on ICS and the max free RAM was at 803 MB. Maybe its just an issue with our ics leak that we have so little free RAM?
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Been doing some testing on this. It appears that limiting the background applications to three returns the free memory back to gb levels. Been testing this all day with my objection rom, and my used memory has not gone above 472 used with 3 background applications running. That leaves plenty of room to run my games in the forground or office applications. Phone has been running smooth and with out error.
In objection rom to limit the back ground applications. Settings /development options / limit back ground process.
Also been looking at my wife's nexus with non rooted ics. Her phone shows 728 Meg of available ram. Not sure why our leaked version is showing only 656.
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Thanks! after reading this post...I went into the ICS settings on Unofficial ROM and set the settings to 3 background and kill apps on exit..it improved A LOTTTTT....Ive been lurking a long time and this is the best advice I have read!
I've noticed the higher version of android I go up on my phone, the more ram applications use and the system itself does.
So my question is, when is it that our phones won't have enough ram to handle more than one app running? The max my phone can handle with 403 system ram using the devil kernel on JB is like about 2-3, then the app restarts or refreshes.
What about you guys?
Hmm I've felt that the higher, the less ram. I was on slimbean and I had 180+ available ram all the time. Well, when playing music it would drop to 170 mb, but its still really good. Right now I'm on aokp and I have music, kakaotalk, Google services, lookout, android keyboard all taking up ram under running apps and I still have about 160 mb free. Aokp has this performance tweak that controls how much ram will be free on every reboot. That's why I have so much free ram even though my total is only 378 mb. You should try aokp. Its really nice
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My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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Haha, sorry I find that funny. GB has always been slow and unstable. Froyo was good thanks to Bionix and Fishman. Even though GB looked nice and was fun playing around with, (LOVED Sensation ROM and RevoultionROM JVQ) they began to lag after a while and unfortunately GPS did not work. ICS was really nice but it had the EU bug. JB is (obviously) the fastest version.
Also, the phone WILL lose 720p recording on 403 mb of RAM, but thats why you use 391 mb. I dont notice a difference between ~10mb of RAM. I dont know why you would prefer 366 mb on gingerbread, (which is really slow compared to JB) as opposed to JB's 391 mb.
Android has been trying to smooth itself out so to run the OS itself should be enough. You can freeze the system apps you don't need so they won't automatically load themselves. To run newer games you will need a device with more ram though.
glassesboy said:
My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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I must ask this as you said you were on 2.3.6 but didn't give a specific ROM name. Does your phone have a stock front facing camera?
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But guys, for example try using some of the newer app, there is also lag for some reason. And when i switch between apps, they take a while to load. Maybe i need to use zram.
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But guys, for example try using some of the newer app, there is also lag for some reason. And when i switch between apps, they take a while to load. Maybe i need to use zram.
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Maybe you need CM7 and glitch kernel. Seriously.
The thing is Vibrant doesn't have enough memory to smoothly handle multitasking and avoid casual lag (especially when pressing the recent apps button) on v4.x.x OSes.
It's great that a lot of developers spend their time porting ICS and JB, but actually I need a working and responsive phone.
Think about it, if it were false then we wouldn't have any need for newer models.
Why buying a GS3? I can run JB on my Vibrant! wooo!
Of course this is just my humble point of view, I'm not partecipating in a political debate.
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Haha, sorry I find that funny. GB has always been slow and unstable.
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Yeah, I find it funny too... somehow.
By the way, there's a huge difference between 2.3.4/6 and 2.3.7.
Obviously the vibe isn't packing 2gb of ram like the US gs3 and note2 but I've been running PA JB for a while. The only thing that seems to lag is Google search/now/browser. Other than that it runs smooth! I have about 30+ launchable system and user apps. The key is to kill app back and minimize background processes
(mines set at 3). There are other ram management choices as well.
As I said, its no gs3 but for an almost 3yr old device this vibrator is buzzing strong!
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Obviously the vibe isn't packing 2gb of ram like the US gs3 and note2 but I've been running PA JB for a while. The only thing that seems to lag is Google search/now/browser. Other than that it runs smooth! I have about 30+ launchable system and user apps. The key is to kill app back and minimize background processes
(mines set at 3). There are other ram management choices as well.
As I said, its no gs3 but for an almost 3yr old device this vibrator is buzzing strong!
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I agree... for a three year old phone these things kick ass. Im running SlimBean 2.8 which is insanely stable and responsive and quick... I have no lag issues and no force close issues and my RAM is 277MB used and 132MB free, give or take, thats with Update Me, Google Services, Keyboard, and Facebook running. I can use FB, Slacker, any browser I want... never have issues and the phone feels smoother than stock GS3 IMO... I have processes set to 3 as well and have never had a problem. Just remember we only have 512MB to work with... :silly::highfive:
http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
No need to thank me.
X to the rescue!! I downloaded 1gb and wow.....that's all I can say!
[A] No
There are a few droids released this year with 2 gigs of RAM like the US/JP S3,optimus G,padfone 2 and google's own nexus 4.But is it really necessary ? or is it just for marketing like it is the case with 1080P(440ppi) screens ? As far as I know,you can open around 20 apps on an android phone with 1 gig of RAM.Who would open more than that ? I personally only run 6 apps max in the same time,opening more(like I actually need to) would just result in more battery drainage.Some people say that android apps will need more RAM in the next couple of years but I don't think this would be the case.Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.What do you guys think ?
2gb would help me run a GNU/Linux inside a chroot.
Madarox said:
Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.
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I bet it won't happen.
Once I downloaded a simple 3D Rally game, and it used 320 MB RAM. I only have 410 MB left after the phone booted, so it would be nice to have more.
Madarox said:
There are a few droids released this year with 2 gigs of RAM like the US/JP S3,optimus G,padfone 2 and google's own nexus 4.But is it really necessary ? or is it just for marketing like it is the case with 1080P(440ppi) screens ? As far as I know,you can open around 20 apps on an android phone with 1 gig of RAM.Who would open more than that ? I personally only run 6 apps max in the same time,opening more(like I actually need to) would just result in more battery drainage.Some people say that android apps will need more RAM in the next couple of years but I don't think this would be the case.Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.What do you guys think ?
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I agree that it would be great if apps started getting lighter. It's kinda irritating that Android as a whole kinda seems to be getting more boated lately too. Just because the technology and hardware exists (such as 2 gigs of ram or quad core cpus) is no excuse for bloated coding and programs IMO.
Android is Linux based. Unlike a PC OS like windows, it uses as much RAM as it can. Its built that way. Example: Facebook, Twitter, browser, XDA app running. If you have say 200MB free, android will give more to the apps that are being used. So if browser is just sitting there idle, Facebook and Twitter which are realtime, would get more RAM for better performance. 2GB RAM would be so much better and honestly I would love to have more than that. Closer to 4GB just to have fun with. And maybe I'm crazy, but I just like the idea of it.
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Well nowaday it seems that more is better than less so... why not? in the future maybe 4gb ram is standard for smartphone like dual-core cpu is a standard for a medium smartphones right now. I mean that belong to the future so for now more ram more speed more storage less money is better for me ^^
At present it might not matter but........ eventually it'll needed it.
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Eventually I think it will be standard to have at least 1.5GB ram and a 1.5ghz processor and maybe 16GB internal storage.
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danishprakash said:
At present it might not matter but........ eventually it'll needed it.
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Shawn said:
Eventually I think it will be standard to have at least 1.5GB ram and a 1.5ghz processor and maybe 16GB internal storage.
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I still don't see why android would need more than 1GB of RAM in the coming years.If 2gb of RAM would be a necessity for the OS to run properly then I assume google would stop updating the nexus S[512MB RAM],galaxy nexus and nexus 7 [both 1GB RAM] a year from now.If apps would need them,then mid-range phones with 1GB RAM or less wouldn't operate properly.
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Android is Linux based. Unlike a PC OS like windows, it uses as much RAM as it can. Its built that way. Example: Facebook, Twitter, browser, XDA app running. If you have say 200MB free, android will give more to the apps that are being used. So if browser is just sitting there idle, Facebook and Twitter which are realtime, would get more RAM for better performance. 2GB RAM would be so much better and honestly I would love to have more than that. Closer to 4GB just to have fun with. And maybe I'm crazy, but I just like the idea of it.
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Except that these apps don't actually need the RAM,lol.Maybe only the browser if you have 5+ tabs opened.
Browser uses about 150MB somehow for me with one tab open.
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The os dosnt need this much. However the more ram the more apps can be kept running thus better multitasking.
This is the case with most computers there will always be those high end specs that few really need but it some what future proofs for a few years
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Relax... having more ram is just like having more money in your pocket... and it's not like u gonna use all of the money in your pocket at the same time anyway, has to save some left for something "unexpected" to happen right? and if google stop supporting Nexus S so what? we still have a lot of devs always ready to make a cook rom for it (and personally i like cook rom more).
I'ts not the end of the world if we have more ram
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
udhayababu said:
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
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Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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tanx bro:laugh:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Is the jb update is conformed?:laugh:
yes, look at name of threads or google
and beware, there are some grammar nazis who would eat you alive for last post
btw if you have enough funding, get some nexus device (as much as I like my dx, I had to say that)
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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knielen said:
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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exactly, best price/performance ratio I have ever seen in smartphone area, but still, it isnt flagship, never was intended to be, never will be. If you want good phone for good price, go for it, I can only recomend. If you want really high-end phone, or just bigger screen, there are other options, but not DX.
if you have a low budget then buy this phone... its not that big and super fast for games and others...
if you can afford a more expensive phone then buy something better
but just to know that devs started working a lot on this phone and it will become a lot faster
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
Uizz.UW said:
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
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"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
mindlesSheep said:
"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
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Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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angel.grin said:
Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
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Stereo8 said:
Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
Sent from my awesome, stock, Nexus7!
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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The Nexus 4 is nice yes, but still not the best, it has many problems and features that didn't work right and some bugs which Google didn't fix for many updates....
If you have enough money, I would choose the new HTC One
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Yes that's the point ^^ The Desire X is not the very best High-End phone, but it is still a very nice and great working phone with good performance
I love it <3
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udhayababu said:
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
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desire x is a good device dont bother looking for galaxy s3 mini its not released nor will it release in india.The nexus 4 if released at the US price point is an excellent buy else if from what i have heard @500$ seems kindof pricey.
Look at LAVA XOLO Q800,Micromax Canvas HD, Spice Titanium s1 ,and all the other local brands if you aren't so hung up about custom roms(I for one am).
If you are willing to wait for say a month or so there is Xperia L(Available for preorder) ,Optimus L9 And ofcourse there is Galaxy Grand.
EDIT: #zen-mode-ON
the desire X is the true choice of Needs and Wants it is actually everything that you need(yes gaming is also very good eg Dead Trigger). But then what exactly you want a 10 inch screen 16 core processor 1TB ram the demands are endless so you have gotta make a choice a balance between needs and wants.
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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ok got your point.i have a different experience so maybe we have different opinions. no point in debating. cheers
to the ts. i really dont like the cpu and gpu combo in the dx.. gpu not that good.. if it had a better gpu maybe i would buy this. go find a device with a good gpu from mid to high. this is just low end gpu. adreno 203 < sgx 531 based on my experience and benchmarks. so better find a cellphone with a good gpu that how i choose a new phone though.
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I didn't mean that having more free RAM is a bonus , I just wanted to point out that RAM is not something to take into consideration when gaming . Speciffically , that it's got more than enough for any high-end game . Having enough or more than enough are both better than NOT having enough at all .
Indeed I am a lot more familiar with Windows' way of dealing with RAM , however I've seen how Linux works as well , and even though you are right in saying that using more RAM grants you better multitasking , the way Android handles the RAM on the DX is far from perfect . From my experience , Samsung devices manage RAM A LOT better than any other brand I've tried so far (at least on low / middle end devices) . HTC doesn't do a bad job , but it's not to be praised either , at least not on the DX . Then again , look at an LG's RAM management and you'll most likely start crying xD !
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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if you are rooted you can try to overclock your device, also install custom kernels with better governors. try a search on the forum, you will get a lot of custom kernels also find ways to overclock your device.
hope i helped.
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
luci.tal said:
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
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Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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leajian said:
Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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I've just installed Greenify and I will come back with a report.Thank you
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
Jack Harper said:
Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
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Performance is a subjective term..
It varies from person to person.
Well,games do lag on our phones beyond a point and I've seen every android device lag after sometime of use while doing heavy multitasking,etc
Android OS as such needs to undergo a lot of development .
Well,you do have to pay a price for the seamless customizing option it gives us..
Bertellio said:
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another thing.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
luci.tal said:
I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another think.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
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Would recommend you to switch to Super Jelly Bean v5.o + Fusion v5.5 kernel.
And yes, avoid overclocking. I never do. And if you switch to any SJB or moAOKP v3, you'd get enormous amount of RAM that you need not overclock!
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luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Well said. :thumbup:
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Gingerbread is the best ROM for this phone!My phone(MT15i) running with 2.3.4 GB .60 ,with adreno booster v0.6 and OC at 1,2GHZ and I can say,This is the max. of the phone!
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
luci.tal said:
I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
martirio3000 said:
Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
luci.tal said:
You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
martirio3000 said:
actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
Oh,and i have another question(about CSR Racing).When I am on stock gb or ics when i press to shift the gears it goes late(doesn't matter if i oc or not).I mean like 3 sec late.But when i am on a custom rom it changes the gear perfectly.Why is that happening?
luci.tal said:
Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
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Well it seems to be lighter and probably I guess more optimized. Ram doesnt matter for performance in this case. Gingerbead was made to work on devices with even lower ram thats why no problems excists. Also my guess is tha Jb can work on even less ram smooth enough. Ram in android is mostly occupied by cached processes which are "useless" for the Os to operate correctly.
Anyway about csr racing i know nothing ).