I am curious because i love this phone and im trying to avoid rooting it... However their is so much damn bloatware on this crap so it slows down to the point i can't even type a text message, My HTC Hero had faster speeds than this phone at certain points and thats pathetic. Its becoming frustrating and ive already thrown this thing across the room twice now (i have insurance and im shocked it hasnt broke yet)
All my syncs are off, Wifi is usually off but it keeps turning on and thats annoying, my screen time out is set for 5 mins, my brightness is low, i have next to no apps installed because it acts up when i do.
Got full insurance? Root the heck out of it! That's not normal for a phone like this, I have the open international version and it's buttery smooth. You might want to wait for 4.4 kitkat which is assumed to come within a month or two so it's up to you.
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Throw it against the wall again and see if that fixes it. Show it who's boss! ?
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
You can "Disable" all the bloat apps. I did that with my Wife's G2 and it runs buttery smooth.
This phone has never been slow, no matter how much crap I put on it.
I'm on stock, have just under ten different launchers on it, all with fat caches, all the original apps loaded and available, always on WiFi/3G, 3gigs music - the way I like it.
It has never stuttered.
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it's worth it just for de bloating and g2 xposed.
This phone isn't slow, ever, apps or not. Something is wrong with your phone.
Read this thread.There are tips about how to make the phone snappier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892
For me the phone never stuttered or lag. Still on stock with no de-bloating done.
If there's a reason to root for me will be to install Adaway & stop the annoying ads. Other than that it's pretty much all set up.
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That is definitely not normal. The stock phone is way more than adequate for your every day use, and I ran it for a good month flawlessly. However, I just liked the themes and extra abilities of being rooted (then, eventually a custom ROM) so I just did that. You can always revert back anyways.
still debating on rooting as well, I still linger around these forums on occasion. I somewhat grew out of the rom flashing, and buying/selling phones. As for the LG G2 , its a solid phone, really enjoying the battery life, yes it probably could be better but 17 hours plus with heavy usage is excellent for me.
Debloating is probably only reason I would root, but you can also hide the apps you don't need and that is holding me over for the time being. I will most like give in to rooting the device :silly: for a few mods,
trickster2369 said:
Throw it against the wall again and see if that fixes it. Show it who's boss! ?
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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@kyhassenn
root it that wont hurt your mobile and download app master and uninstall all crapware and u good..
Why wouldn't you root? It's very easy and you can always return back to stock with no issues. I say root it and then do whatever you want with it. Just remember to not change anything if you don't know what it does. If you keep by this one rule, you shouldn't have to worry about bricking it.
I rooted and it's worth it specifically after debloating. You can always go back to stock with the LG tool kit.
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it is worth the root but, maybe its just me, when restoring back to factory you wont be able to update anymore.
If I root my T-Mobile G2, could I change the rooted status to unrooted in the lg root checker? That is the only thing I am worried about. I am running the OTA update non rooted.
I've opened every app on my phone, including torrent apps and high need games, and I was still able to play Need for Speed: Most Wanted at full speed and not even a screen glitch or sound skip. The fact that OP is having lag issues is astonishing.
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kyhassen said:
All my syncs are off, Wifi is usually off but it keeps turning on and thats annoying, my screen time out is set for 5 mins, my brightness is low, i have next to no apps installed because it acts up when i do.
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If you have a Sprint device the wifi issue is likely the connections optimizer, you can turn it off in the settings.
Yes
I went from S4 to this phone! I did the root on first startup! I think that Android is all about doing your own settings and make things just the way you want! If some company sometime release a phoen that I do not need to root and ''make my own'' I will be sad :=)
Full reset. If same, return.
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How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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I would count that as "a reason to use it".
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
thanks for info
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Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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All updates are optional.
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All updates are optional.
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true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
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You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance
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true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
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I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user
I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway
also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Dumb Question
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
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OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
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If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.
Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
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Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.
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Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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Google Now & Project Butter
erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
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smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
After a few days of playing with my S4 I would have to say I'm not very happy with it. My smart stay setting don't work but maybe a 1/4 of the time if that. My voice commands don't work but half the time and I get a bit of lag from time to time. I've always used the stock browser in the past cause of flash player and now that don't work right, along with every now and then not being able to click links like its lagging but yet the url, bookmarks, Window manager, and menu button work. Plus the battery life hasn't been to great but that may be me being used to the note 2 battery. If anyone else is getting the same thing or knows of fixes please let me know. I have had these problems on fully stock, rooted with stock debloated, and now on rooted stock. Should I just wait and see what roms come out or should I try to return it and if I should return it is there a way back to non rooted fully stock? Thank you for your time.
edit 5/30: i just got done formating the int and ext storage to start from scratch. after that i noticed hyperdrive was just released so i installed that. phone softbricked cause i tried to install the ads mod from the app he has on the rom. was getting missing file errors and i/o error when tring to restore/wipe/install anything. did the no-wipe factory image and had to wipe data and factory reset after to get it out of bootloop. now im back and phone seems to be running great (but not sure about the voice commands and smart screen stuff just yet). i think my problem was i didnt change the save folder for titanium backup to sd card and i had some rom backups in the int. storage. figured this out when i went to make a backup and it said not enough memory. so if your having problems with lag double check your int. storage to make sure you have plenty of space.
Sounds like every S 4 I have ever seen.
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After a few days of playing with my S4 I would have to say I'm not very happy with it. My smart stay setting don't work but maybe a 1/4 of the time if that. My voice commands don't work but half the time and I get a bit of lag from time to time. I've always used the stock browser in the past cause of flash player and now that don't work right, along with every now and then not being able to click links like its lagging but yet the url, bookmarks, Window manager, and menu button work. Plus the battery life hasn't been to great but that may be me being used to the note 2 battery. If anyone else is getting the same thing or knows of fixes please let me know. I have had these problems on fully stock, rooted with stock debloated, and now on rooted stock. Should I just wait and see what roms come out or should I try to return it and if I should return it is there a way back to non rooted fully stock? Thank you for your time.
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Looking at his site, he got his donations, and was about to purchase the device. He should just be waiting for its arrival. Give it a week or two and he will likely have a ROM cooked
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Thanks for the heads up! I ran it on my note 2 and loved it. Can't freaking wait!
Glad I brightened things up a bit for you!! Heck I am looking to upgrade soon and am considering the gs4. Been testing the waters in anticipation. I ran one of scotts roms years ago on my Optimus S (moved to the nexus s 4g, to currently the epic 4g touch) and he made a solid rom then, I know that.
I came from a note 2 as well. I can't wait for custom roms. The stock rom Sucks. I miss clean rom and beanstown but I'm sure everything will be here soon because the S series devices always have more development because they're more popular and more of an everyone phone unlike the note which isn't for everyone.
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I've seen none of that. This phone hasn't lagged once. Huge upgrade over my Galaxy nexus.
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I've noticed the Verizon S4 lags when compared to the T-Mobile variant.
the issue with links you cant click is an bug browser freezing up.hopefully they will fix it soon.temp u can clise tge broswer and then fire back up and it should work.
I wonder in Verizon applied the latest update like all the other carruers did that took care of lag etc...I remember something in early may that the other carriers were getting an update to address the lag issue and since our phones were just released last week...it may be a little bit before Verizon catches up.
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The Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that I could say finally solved the laggyness that has been there since the droid. I have an iphone 5, S3, and the S4. The S4, at least mine, is clearly faster then my S3, and the even the iphone (which has always been pinnacle of non lag phones)......can't even compare with the S4 smoothness, and that is saying something.
I hate lag, hated it since the OGDroid, and can see immediately. I'm sorry you're having issues with you're S4, but I really don't know what alternative phone you could buy as of now.....because, if i'm not mistaking, the S4,HTC One or Iphone.....are the only phones you can buy with the least amount of lag as of todays date.
Best of luck to you.
Well I need to do some more testing with the voice command. I went outside today (were is bright) and noticed that some of the clear stickers on the side of the phone were still there. Just not to sure if the ones I pulled off was covering the mic. If it's better from here on out I will definitely feel like a de de deee.
edit: still having a little of trouble but it may have to do with background noises and the phone volume being all the way up.
Tks
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Tks for the tip.
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I've seen none of that. This phone hasn't lagged once. Huge upgrade over my Galaxy nexus.
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Same here.
I turned off all the Air gestures, and other 'features' that I don't need or care about and switched to ADW EX launcher.
Very pleased with the S4.
I'm happy with my GS4. No issues with me. My battery has been treating me much better compared to my old LG Revolution. I haven't noticed any lag on my phone and that's something I noticed all the time on 2.3.6
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That sucks. I'm glad I haven't had any issues.
I kept reading posts about the S4 being laggy, so I was a little worried when I picked mine up yesterday. Luckily, I seem to have a lag free version.
I came from an iPhone 5, and this S4 is much faster. Prior to that I had a gnex, and there is night and day difference between that and the S4.
Omg, Clean Rom is coming!!!!!! I cant wait, his roms are seriously top notch, I have renewed faith!!!!
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I came from a note 2 as well. I can't wait for custom roms. The stock rom Sucks. I miss clean rom and beanstown but I'm sure everything will be here soon because the S series devices always have more development because they're more popular and more of an everyone phone unlike the note which isn't for everyone.
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What are you guys talking about here, you can run other carrier roms, what is your hold up? You can run any rom the ATT I337 can, to include sprint and t-mobile roms. you just need to use the loki patch (verizon) within the recovery apps. Smile and start here...Cheer up Charlie!
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Just got the s4 yesterday. I'm experiencing some lag issues with the gallery and mostly the text message app and sometimes other areas of the phone. When I click the text app it opens then if I click to open up one of the convos that's when I notice a big delay. It's like a 1 second delay. This is basically instant on my note 2. Is this a software problem that will hopefully be fixed soon or a hardware problem? Anyone else notice this? That text delay when you open up a convo.. Also SwiftKey seems to lag sometimes.
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I have but I just switched to gosmspro.
Yeah I just did too man its definitely a little faster but still not as fast as my note 2.
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I just don't understand how the note 2 could be faster in some ways. My s4 practically doubles my note 2 I benchmarks. Do you think it's just software stuff that they will fix?
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Os weather bug radar lag bad for anything else when zooming and zooming out? It runs a bit better on my note 2 for some reason.
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Just got the s4 yesterday. I'm experiencing some lag issues with the gallery and mostly the text message app and sometimes other areas of the phone. When I click the text app it opens then if I click to open up one of the convos that's when I notice a big delay. It's like a 1 second delay. This is basically instant on my note 2. Is this a software problem that will hopefully be fixed soon or a hardware problem? Anyone else notice this? That text delay when you open up a convo.. Also SwiftKey seems to lag sometimes.
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Try Handcent SMS or Handcent Pro Beta for texting. Much faster. If you use any 3rd party texting program remember to go to your installed applications and click on All and then disable Messaging which is the default messaging application. This way you don't get double notifications. Then drag the icon to your bottom bar and lock screen if applicable.
Ok I got chomp sms. It seems to be the fastest. Why do you think weather bug radar runs better on my note 2 than my s4? The s4 is so much more powerful it seems like everything should be faster and smoother.
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If you're rooted, an app called Seeder will make your phone noticeably snappier and quicker. Maybe using a custom launcher instead of the stock TouchWiz launcher might also help.
Seeder: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
I'm not rooted and have no idea how to do that. I'm using nova launcher prime. I'm just trying to figure out why the hell my note 2 seems to run some apps faster than the s4? Think it's a software issue that they will fix with an update?
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the s4 seems to have a laggy build in general. i noticed this right off the bat, so i rooted it and debloated it using titanium backup pro, which helped a good amount. i recently flashed hyperdrive and the lag is gone, and it is extremely fast and stable so far.
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the s4 seems to have a laggy build in general. i noticed this right off the bat, so i rooted it and debloated it using titanium backup pro, which helped a good amount. i recently flashed hyperdrive and the lag is gone, and it is extremely fast and stable so far.
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How can I do this and is it risky? I could use my dad's laptop if that works. I just want to take advantage of this beast hardware. I just don't want anything to change on my home screens bcuz I have it set up just the way I want it with nova launcher.
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How can I do this and is it risky? I could use my dad's laptop if that works. I just want to take advantage of this beast hardware. I just don't want anything to change on my home screens bcuz I have it set up just the way I want it with nova launcher.
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no matter what, you can always rearrange your home screen again to make it look how you want...
follow the steps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
that will root the phone. make sure you install a custom recovery like twrp or cwm, and make a backup. then, download titanium backup pro (it is like $6.99), and go in and freeze the apps you don't feel you need. make sure you do your research first as to what apps you are freezing, there are lists of bloatware posted all over the site. that will debloat your phone for the most part. after that, you can start to flash custom rom's with different tweaks built in. cleanrom is really nice, as is hyperdrive.
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no matter what, you can always rearrange your home screen again to make it look how you want...
follow the steps listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
that will root the phone. make sure you install a custom recovery like twrp or cwm, and make a backup. then, download titanium backup pro (it is like $6.99), and go in and freeze the apps you don't feel you need. make sure you do your research first as to what apps you are freezing, there are lists of bloatware posted all over the site. that will debloat your phone for the most part. after that, you can start to flash custom rom's with different tweaks built in. cleanrom is really nice, as is hyperdrive.
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Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol. I'll tell you though I did go into task manager and I disabled tons of stuff that looked like bloatware, probably like 25 apps..
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Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol. I'll tell you though I did go into task manager and I disabled tons of stuff that looked like bloatware, probably like 25 apps..
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well ok then...
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If you do want to root your device, I suggest looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
There isn't a whole lot you can do to fix lag or anything else without rooting and flashing a custom ROM.
I'm seriously thinking about returning it which is a shame bcuz I love the look and feel of the phone. I seriously just played gta vice city on it and it's choppy and laggy. It runs perfect on my note 2. Wtf is going on? I know the hardware isn't messed up bcuz the benchmarks are insanely high. Much higher than my note 2.
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Sounds a little complicated for me to be honest. I'm usually high. I don't know what half of that stuff even means lol.
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Perfect timing then. As everyone says, you've got to clean the bloat but it has to be loosened first so heat up a kettle of water and let the water vapor soak into the phone. Once that's done the real clean begins. Just as any bacteria or virus it's got to be nuked to kill it, so stick it in the microwave on high (not "hi") for 2 minutes. if you smell somethiny funky that means all is well and an extra minue or two wont hurt.
Lastly, the dead bloatware has to be extricated from the phone so use a small screwdriver to lift a corner of the glass and then shake out the dead bloatware.. Now its time to root so get a shovel and Miraclegrow ready.
CAMERA or Camcorder turns on Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!!
hi all,, im a noob i know,,, ive had rooted S3 for a year now, love it! got a new S4 few days ago,, rooted it,, deleted all s-bloatware, deleted all verizon bloat,, turned off all animations, and phone is still super laggy when waking up phone/doing anything,, old S3 runs circles around this S4,, called samsung today & they were no help at all,,called verizon,, they said they're pushing out a update in the next few "days" not weeks to fix an error message peeps are getting and also for the lag but more for the error is what i got from the convo,,-------- ANYWAYS my ACTUAL point of posting here is that i have noticed that every time i open the CAMERA or Camcorder on the S4 no matter if i take a picture/video or close the app right away it automatically turns on the Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!! i would love to know if this happens to everyone and maybe they just haven't noticed lol,, also noticed that the S4 doesn't lag as much when its plugged in being charged not matter if battery is 100% or 5% but unplug phone and it adds more lag,, DO I JUST HAVE A DEFECT or what? if these things dont hold true on your S4 then i can just have them send me another one,, Or hopefully this update maybe called 4.3.1 for verizon will fix all this in the next few days,, thanks for reading
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hi all,, im a noob i know,,, ive had rooted S3 for a year now, love it! got a new S4 few days ago,, rooted it,, deleted all s-bloatware, deleted all verizon bloat,, turned off all animations, and phone is still super laggy when waking up phone/doing anything,, old S3 runs circles around this S4,, called samsung today & they were no help at all,,called verizon,, they said they're pushing out a update in the next few "days" not weeks to fix an error message peeps are getting and also for the lag but more for the error is what i got from the convo,,-------- ANYWAYS my ACTUAL point of posting here is that i have noticed that every time i open the CAMERA or Camcorder on the S4 no matter if i take a picture/video or close the app right away it automatically turns on the Transition Animation Scale to 1x!!!! i would love to know if this happens to everyone and maybe they just haven't noticed lol,, also noticed that the S4 doesn't lag as much when its plugged in being charged not matter if battery is 100% or 5% but unplug phone and it adds more lag,, DO I JUST HAVE A DEFECT or what? if these things dont hold true on your S4 then i can just have them send me another one,, Or hopefully this update maybe called 4.3.1 for verizon will fix all this in the next few days,, thanks for reading
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The 1x transition from the camera bug is well known but I'm not sure if they pushed an update to fix that or not. I have heard that they did push an update to fix the security notification bug, so if you still have it I would try to do the 4.3 update again to fix it (you will lose root and have to do that again though). Touchwiz is by nature pretty laggy but what you're describing is not normal... I would do a factory reset and see if that helps. On mine I have bloat frozen, greenify, etc and it runs fairly smooth. Not buttery, but smoother than what you're saying.
Yeah i've done factory resets and used the verizon repair tool which unroots and puts all bloat back a few time to.. still the same lag.. I did all the exact same thing on my old s3 and my s4 is just way slower.. and I'm sorry I couldn't find anything on the 1x camera thing so thanks for helping.. I do still wonder if the 1x thing is on all carries and models or just on random ones?
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Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!