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About an hour ago I noticed a strange message on my phone which said "helo". (helo with a single 'l').
The only way it seemed to go away, was if I said OK to it or tried the back button. It popped up every few seconds, and it was everywhere, in the browser, in the market, on my homepage, just everywhere..
I suspected its a virus or trojan or just something malicious, and I've been googling ever since, I cant seem to find any information on this 'helo' virus/trojan/whatever.
And Now my phone has freezed. In just one hour, my phone has freezed!!! About an hour ago, when I first saw it, I could use my phone, only the message popped up every few second, but now my phone has Freezed! In just about an hour, whatever this is has cause so much damage?!?
Can anyone please tell me, if this is really a malicious thing, or some software error?
I haven't downloaded anything suspicious, and today espescially I haven't used my phone much..
Phone: LG Optimus One P500.
1) Please use proper english. 2) Do a full wipe of your phone if you can't boot, you'll lose everything, including that program. 3) If your phone is still frozen remove the battery and reboot.
4) I don't suggest anyone give any more information than this. I hate to say it but I've seen things like this before. A new user will sign up for a site, post something like "i've got a virus", get help from the community and then it turns out it's the virus writer using the info on how to combat the virus to make it worse. Being wary is always a good option, and a factory wipe will make sure this program is gone so there's no need for anything else.
Wow! did you just say "use proper english?"
Define proper english.
The flag below your Avatar shows Unites States, I bet, not everyone who lives in the US is a native english speaker. If you can't comprehend what I write, then its your problem.
I hate to say this in a publc forum but you sound like an Idiot!, You couldn't have helped me anyways.
GoodLuck trolling around forums.
Just my 2 cents, but me/me you look more like the idiot here. You have 2 posts, one asking for help (which you got), and one calling somebody an idiot.
Yea im going to support dbzfanatic on this. The way you, me/me, started to criticize and name call, especially with only two posts, was uncalled for. Now back to the original topic. The above stated method should work. You could just try a battery pull, then find the culprit. That may unfreeze your phone, but if not you will have to do a reset and lose data.
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Firstly, I wouldn't call that help. Whatever was suggested was someothing anyone would do with or without help. In a technical forum, more helpful suggestions are expected.
My post, if not grammatically correct, was comprehendible. The poster, didn't have to be so condescending. Her/His assumption that any new poster is a virus writer is ridiculous. She/he does come across as an Idiot.
I get it that you want to defend a fellow member, you may, I'm not going to attack you for defending a friend.
Btw, soon after I made my first post, I figured what the problem was, adn I came here to delete my post. I was very surprised to see such arrogance. I believe, a knowleadgeable person had a more humble demeanor.
me/me said:
Firstly, I wouldn't call that help. Whatever was suggested was someothing anyone would do with or without help. In a technical forum, more helpful suggestions are expected.
My post, if not grammatically correct, was comprehendible. The poster, didn't have to be so condescending. Her/His assumption that any new poster is a virus writer is ridiculous. She/he does come across as an Idiot.
I get it that you want to defend a fellow member, you may, I'm not going to attack you for defending a friend.
Btw, soon after I made my first post, I figured what the problem was, adn I came here to delete my post. I was very surprised to see such arrogance. I believe, a knowleadgeable person had a more humble demeanor.
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So then tell us what the problem was.
there a strange rule here, new posters cannot edit their posts soon after posting, we will have to wait for 5 minutes or something. there is a correction i want to make in my previous post *has not had.
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So then tell us what the problem was.
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I got to know the problem is at the carriers end.
I tried to post teh link, but this site doesn't allow me to post.
I understood exactly what you said, but you're correct that some users aren't native English speakers. Using proper English on a public forum where not everyone speaks the language natively will make things easier for people to translate if they need to. You had one post at the time and thus, you're a n00b, at least on this forum. The first things to tell a n00b are the obvious basic things to try. If you're technologically inclined good, if not then the steps I suggested would have been enough. Calling someone arrogant for being cautions is like saying someone's a chicken for not holding a gun to their head. There is also a standing rule (if you would take the time to read the forum rules) that new users can't post links. You could always have removed the http:// and posted the rest of the URL which would have been allowed. Glad you fixed your problem but even in a technical forum the first suggestions will be the obvious ones unless you specifically post that you have already tried those steps. If you continue to stay on this forum I hope your demeanor changes. As I said I've seen situations like this where the poster was the one writing the malicious program, we don't need that here so precautions are necessary. Lastly, I'm a guy, so no need for the his/her anymore when referring to me somewhere.
I didn't say you are arrogant because you assumed I am a virus writer. I said you are arrogant because of your condescending manner..which reflects in this post too. Clearly, you haven't understood my post.
As for the need for translation, freeze and froze, don't make much of a difference while translating. Any one whose first languare is not english will not have any trouble understanding that one of them is in present tense and the other is in past.
I doub't you really were thinking of some poor non native english speaking soul, when you demanded I speak 'proper english'. What is more important is to be polite and open minded. Good manners! Have you heard this somewhere?
Your fellow members attacked me, when I called you an Idiot. I didn't call you an Idiot because you were being cautious. I called you an Idiot because, your condescending manner coupled with your ridiculous assumptions and you demanding others to offer no further help..comes across as rather Stupid. I don't regret calling you anything.
As for grading the members based on their number of posts, you didn't have to explain that to me at all. I maybe a noob because I have only 1 or 2 posts, but let me tell you, technically I am a noob too. And no, I am not ashamed to say this.
Did your post help me? You gave some basic suggestions, which I can just google. I am a noob and I could do those things without your help. Now you got to figure how helpful you are. In your own words, your knowledge level is more superior simply because your number of posts categorize you as senior member.
It didn't occur to me that I could remove the http// inorder to the link posted here, I am a noob, but if you were smart enough, you would google to find out what it is.
You are male/female or whatever, I couldn't care less.I don't want to refer to you here or anywhere else. Good Bye!
Go easy guys
No need to judge each other's English speaking skills; especially based on the flag below the avatar.
Let's not welcome anew member in a harsh way, and hey new member must read the rules.
Please guys, relax. This community is all about helping each other, and diversity is the best part of it : ) This is no grammar/vocabulary community. so go easy; not everyone is perfect in everything.
@me/me: Yes, you will need 10-12 posts before you can post without the 5 minutes gap and also edit your post + avatar and signature.
BTW, welcome to XDA-Developers.
Go easy guys
No need to judge each other's English speaking skills; especially based on the flag below the avatar.
Let's not welcome anew member in a harsh way, and hey new member must read the rules.
Please guys, relax. This community is all about helping each other, and diversity is the best part of it : ) This is no grammar/vocabulary community. so go easy; not everyone is perfect in everything.
@me/me: Yes, you will need 10-12 posts before you can post without the 5 minutes gap and also edit your post + avatar and signature.
BTW, welcome to XDA-Developers.
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welcome
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Welcome.
Remember, even the best rom chefs and devs started somewhere with only one post.
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me/me said:
Firstly, I wouldn't call that help. Whatever was suggested was someothing anyone would do with or without help. In a technical forum, more helpful suggestions are expected.
My post, if not grammatically correct, was comprehendible. The poster, didn't have to be so condescending. Her/His assumption that any new poster is a virus writer is ridiculous. She/he does come across as an Idiot.
I get it that you want to defend a fellow member, you may, I'm not going to attack you for defending a friend.
Btw, soon after I made my first post, I figured what the problem was, adn I came here to delete my post. I was very surprised to see such arrogance. I believe, a knowleadgeable person had a more humble demeanor.
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Maybe he should go to the store and purchase your phone model to better assist you? I'm willing to take donations. /sarcasam
madnish30 said:
Go easy guys
No need to judge each other's English speaking skills; especially based on the flag below the avatar.
Let's not welcome anew member in a harsh way, and hey new member must read the rules.
Please guys, relax. This community is all about helping each other, and diversity is the best part of it : ) This is no grammar/vocabulary community. so go easy; not everyone is perfect in everything.
@me/me: Yes, you will need 10-12 posts before you can post without the 5 minutes gap and also edit your post + avatar and signature.
BTW, welcome to XDA-Developers.
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exactly!....
I was wondering if someone knew off the top of their head where text under icons on the notification pull down come from. Are they hard code or pulled from a sys var. I want to delete them. If they are code in a file what is the file name?
I have looked in a few files and I have either missed it or have not looked in the right file yet. My eyes are going cross from reading hex code.
Thanks
It's within the twframework-res.apk. I have forgotten which xml though.
Questions of this nature should be asked in Q&A section.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
It's within the twframework-res.apk. I have forgotten which xml though.
Questions of this nature should be asked in Q&A section.
good day.
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Thanks. I'll go through there again.
I was going to put it in the Q&A but its not a general question. Since it is about dev. I went ahead and put it here. Sometime its hard to decide where to post a question.
Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979224
"Currently people are asking quite a few questions in the development section. Starting today (3/3/2011) any new question threads made in the development sections WILL be moved to the Q&A section without a redirect thread. DO NOT POST QUESTIONS IN THE DEV FORUM."
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979224
"Currently people are asking quite a few questions in the development section. Starting today (3/3/2011) any new question threads made in the development sections WILL be moved to the Q&A section without a redirect thread. DO NOT POST QUESTIONS IN THE DEV FORUM."
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And you needed to do this why? Make yourself feel like a mod? Some people need to grow up here. jeez
MSHancock said:
And you needed to do this why? Make yourself feel like a mod? Some people need to grow up here. jeez
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He needed to do it because you obviously still believed that this question belonged in the development forum. It doesn't, as pointed out without any flaming and in a totally innocuous way. As far as I can tell the only one who needs to grow up here is you.
You made a mistake, instead of defending that mistake in the face of irrefutable proof that you are wrong, just admit it and move on. You only make yourself seem more ignorant when you get upset that people are doing their best to keep posts where they belong. Your question was a good one, just please post it in the correct board next time so we can keep the development board open for development topics.
Nothing against you man, just really getting tired of people getting so pissed off when someone tells them they are in the wrong section.
I agree, my post was in the wrong section. I thanked chopper for pointing out where I should have put it. I went back and went over ashasaur's new posting rules and saw the section he posted way before BrwnSuperman posted it.
With that said
You get pissed when someone tells a OP they are in the wrong section
I get pissed when I see people standing in line to play mod and ***** at someone
How about we agree to disagree. Everyone has a different opinion and we are all here for the same reason.
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I agree, my post was in the wrong section. I thanked chopper for pointing out where I should have put it. I went back and went over ashasaur's new posting rules and saw the section he posted way before BrwnSuperman posted it.
With that said
You get pissed when someone tells a OP they are in the wrong section
I get pissed when I see people standing in line to play mod and ***** at someone
How about we agree to disagree. Everyone has a different opinion and we are all here for the same reason.
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"I was going to put it in the Q&A but its not a general question. Since it is about dev. I went ahead and put it here. Sometime its hard to decide where to post a question."
You seemed a bit confused so I thought I would just point it out in the rules, I didn't add anything personal in.
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You get pissed when someone tells a OP they are in the wrong section
I get pissed when I see people standing in line to play mod and ***** at someone
How about we agree to disagree.
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How about we agree to not let forum posts actually make us angry.
Real life is the only thing that requires an emotional response, not internet land.
Relax guys. Nobody has even insulted someone else's mother yet.
BrwnSuperman said:
"I was going to put it in the Q&A but its not a general question. Since it is about dev. I went ahead and put it here. Sometime its hard to decide where to post a question."
You seemed a bit confused so I thought I would just point it out in the rules, I didn't add anything personal in.
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Agreed. You didn't and I did by snapping at ya. For that I will say sorry.
I should have went over the new rules again since it had been awhile since my last post.
Just do what I, and many others here have done.. stop posting on XDA. It seems no matter where you post nowadays, it's the wrong section.
A development section where you can't talk about development, only announce your releases, which you must know how to do on your own, since you can't ask questions. But no app or theme releases, those go somewhere else where you can't talk about themes or apps. General, where you can't ask questions, only state factual things about anything not having to do with development, or apps, or themes, or other phones, or anything having to do with issues with your phone, especially your battery life, or a development release not working correctly, or anything somewhat resembling a request for an expert opinion, such as a release date.
In short, the rules here could easily be shortened to:
Don't post anywhere about anything. Welcome to XDA.
Caution: This post may be moved shortly, as it contains a welcome to a fellow XDA member, which may require it's placement in the XDA member chat section, or general, seeing as there are no questions, or Q&A, seeing as it answers a question, or maybe the main Android section, seeing as it has to do with the XDA forums. Either way, it
'll be in the wrong forum and I'll yet again get a long line of people hopping on the "wrong forum, asshat!" bandwagon.
Here is a tip from me to the entirety of internet users:
If you ever feel angry about someone who has "wronged" you on an internet forum, immediately call someone who doesn't use the internet as much as you (parents, significant other, non-techie best friend).
Now attempt to explain the situation to that person.
Or maybe just imagine doing this in your mind, because that's all it usually takes to realize how incredibly dumb you will then feel for getting angry about anything that happens on the internet.
Grandma: "...he told you your thread was in the wrong forum... and that makes you angry..."
You: "Ya... ok so it's a bigger deal than it sounds like. My reputation is at stake here."
Grandma: "What is a forum? Get their mothers' phone numbers and I'll have a stern talk with them."
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Here is a tip from me to the entirety of internet users:
If you ever feel angry about someone who has "wronged" you on an internet forum, immediately call someone who doesn't use the internet as much as you (parents, significant other, non-techie best friend).
Now attempt to explain the situation to that person.
Grandma: "...he told you your thread was in the wrong forum... and that makes you angry..."
You: "Ya... ok so it's a bigger deal than it sounds like. My reputation is at stake here."
Grandma: "What is a forum? Get their mothers' phone numbers and I'll have a stern talk with them."
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Or in a logical, realistic way:
You: "I spent hours upon hours learning, testing, fixing, coding and sharing something, for zero income, just to have someone nix it all out in a heartbeat for some bull**** reason."
Grandma: "I would be upset, too"
If you think real people are not on the other end of your posts, you are the reason people get angry.
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Agreed. You didn't and I did by snapping at ya. For that I will say sorry.
I should have went over the new rules again since it had been awhile since my last post.
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I retract my sorry!
I went through some of your post and you do seem to have a "WANNA BE MOD" problem. Your constantly telling people where things should go.
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If you think real people are not on the other end of your posts, you are the reason people get angry.
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The only time anyone gets upset by what I say is when they read a tone into what I'm writing that wasn't my intention. I am encouraging the reader to being less sensitive when reading posts.
If you look in other threads, you will see that I encourage the writers of posts to be concise and straight-forward but patient with requests for help or when reporting problems, instead of demanding someone else to solve their problem. Instead of getting angry about it, I let them know about how inefficient their method of approaching the issue is, and try to encourage them to make posts that help the flow of information, instead of hinder it.
Personally, I'm offended more by the fact that negativity slows down development, then that someone said something that hurts my feelings. Positive, well written posts = Better, faster development.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people in this world who, when put behind the anonymous barrier of a computer screen, lose their minds and do nothing but slow everyone down. Those people suck, but you have to find a way to deal with them.
Most other times, its just a normal person who writes something in an ambiguous way, and another person is overly sensitive when reading. Unfortunately, in android land, it seems like we attract a higher percentage of the uncouth, immature crowd who run their mouth without stopping to think about how the other person might feel. Often times, these people are also the overly sensitive ones (but not always).
So while your point is true, it really didn't apply to what I was saying. I hope this post clears that up, and also encourages a healthy attitude towards communication between developers and users.
Our forums are just full of whiney bossy people. I suggest when someone tries to correct your "error"... dont respond (unless the error is device related of course) bc when the op gets defensive in any way the other posters feel they need to defend themselves. End result.... threads like this. It is quite obviously through any persons daily routine, some people we encounter cant/dont/wont follow instruction.
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Awesome.
Not only was the question in the wrong section (and still is...), it will now get closed by a mod once one of them gets off their ass.
And one more person who needs to add thei 2 cents. This thread should have been trashed a log time ago.
clap clap clap clap (awesome content people). ataranine (good trolling).
But anywho, @OP you might find it easier to grab a twframework-res.apk that has been edited the way you want and change images if need be. Because if you find the edit that needs to be done you will still need to contend with the position and size of the other elements of the quickpanel. i.e. Once text is gone the background image for the buttons will still be drawn to the same size as if text were there and if you do edit the way that image is drawn then the padding of all other elements will need to be edited. So the lazy way will prevail on this one. Kang it.
good day.
I'm a fairly noobish guy who has been following a thread just closed. Not new enough to be unaware of all the basic 'copyright' or GUI rules that unfortunately pervade all this work, but I don't understand the process. If someone posts something without giving proper credit for the original code developer (whatever you call yourselves), are they asked to provide this information or is the thread closed on a dime? It would be nice to know there is a little time given to some developers who work as hard as they do to fix an omission or error and not spend MORE time proofing there postings to ensure everyone down to the creator of the alphabet is given proper credit. Is there someone working with Apple here? Are threads immediately locked or is there a due process?
I have followed XDA for years now and the trend that has been developing is sad. I'm not saying inappropriate, because all hard work deserves its due, but what is the time frame for notifying the thread poster and closing it down?
What is more sad is all this does is make everyone look to expose everyone elses mistakes instead of building a community of developers who share and help the whole android community thrive...which is what the web site USED to be about.
This almost makes me want an Iphone....almost.
I would say pm a mod for more details, but from my understanding, a user files a complaint. A mod looks into the complaint and uses pm to contact the dev to remediate the issue. If the offense is bad enough or the dev doesn't respond, the thread is locked until it can be fixed. If the dev repeatedly offends or doesn't fix the issue, the thread is deleted as a last resort.
As users, it seems like the thread is just locked or deleted, but there had been a lot of behind the scenes work that's happened before it gets to that point.
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Ok. So I have thought about doing this for a long time and always have a reason why I haven't done it. I also still have plenty of reservations with it, but I trust it will go well.
What this is:
Ask questions to the moderation team here in the 3d forum. Mostly me. I can't say the others will participate in this thread, as they are not required to. We don't have to talk about a lot of what goes on and I will not force them to. I digress.
If you are confused about a certain rule, or just want clarification, come here. If you want guidance on how to approach a certain situation (this mostly for me), you can come here.
What this isn't:
A place to discuss in detail why someone was banned. Also we will not discuss the banning of people in the past. I will not usually talk about why someone was infracted. Those are all personal details, and will be left as such. Also this is not a place to flame the moderators or anyone else.
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This is my attempt to be fairly transparent with the user base. Most everyone here who knows me, knows that I am willing to talk to just about anyone, and am easy to get a long with. As long as you keep this a civil thread, it will remain. This isn't something that is required, I'm doing it to hopefully bring about some civility in this forum. We don't do things in secret, we just don't talk about it publicly usually.
You work with me, I will work with you.
Savvy?
Thanks to ramjet73 for encouraging me to go ahead and do this.
I too will participate and have subscribed to this thread. As most know I'm not secretive and don't hold alliances with a lot of devs here in 3d land. I tell it like it is and don't let anyone bash another member or previous member for that matter. As long as this is civil I will be as well. Let's play nice and all get along. Remember everyone we are all here to tweak our phones, run the latest software, have the coolest stuff, have fun, and share in our hobby. Nobody here is paid to be here at all so there is no reason to fight cause it gets u no where.
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What they said ^
Also, as I am often seen as the more angry mod (I'm doing my best to curtail that), hopefully I'll be able to eloquently explain the reasons for my shortness.
Carry on.
Where do babies come from?? HAHAHAHA
Obviously I'm joking BUT I do have a serious question.
Why does the search feature go down once a day??
I know a lot of noobs don't notice this because they don't search BUT I use it all day long and I know I'm not the only one that finds this annoying!
Just a few questions. I'm not sure if these fall under the questions that are allowed to be asked, but:
1.] Is Agrabren simply not allowed to post CDMA builds anymore? I still don't truly understand the path his CDMA development has gone, it seems to come and go.
2.] To my understanding there are false GPL claims being made against him. How exactly are those claims made/handled? Is it an automated system? If not, wouldn't it be possible to tell which claims being made are just trolls?
3.] How do you guys put up with the drama so well? I would have lost my mind a long time ago :crying:
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Thanks to pstevep and papa smurf151 for opening this thread.
I'll try to start this in the spirit that I think it was intended by asking the mods what is the best way to handle a post that has been made in the wrong forum, something that rarely happens in the Evo 3d forums.
We don't want to discourage new users that might not know better, but there are detailed guidelines posted for the development forum by papa smurf151 as a sticky in that forum, and general guidelines for new threads in the Forum & Marketplace Rules post at the top of each forum.
In your opinions, is it appropriate to link those guidelines when a post is misplaced or better to just reference them and let the users find them on their own? It's a good exercise to find them yourself when you are not even aware that they exist, but sometimes that discourages users from actually reading them.
This may sound trivial so far, but my real question is whether or not we should report these posts. Is it helpful to the mods to report posts, or better to just wait until someone gets around to reviewing the new threads.
On a broader scale, when would you recommend that we report posts versus just leaving it to the mods to handle them?
ramjet73
This was a great idea. I just want to say thank you to ramjet, pvstepup, and papasmurf for allowing a chance for normal members to come together and let members have a chance to clear the air of any matters that maybe unclear. This is one is for papasmurf: I notice more recently that you have locked quite a few threads with all having something to do with opinions of what's the best Rom or kernel. Now many of us get the idea that you are preventing flaming wars and trying to keep things civil. Myself and many others are wondering, is our hunches accurate?
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Just a few questions. I'm not sure if these fall under the questions that are allowed to be asked, but:
1.] Is Agrabren simply not allowed to post CDMA builds anymore? I still don't truly understand the path his CDMA development has gone, it seems to come and go.
2.] To my understanding there are false GPL claims being made against him. How exactly are those claims made/handled? Is it an automated system? If not, wouldn't it be possible to tell which claims being made are just trolls?
3.] How do you guys put up with the drama so well? I would have lost my mind a long time ago :crying:
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1. From my understanding he has taken his cdma builds off xda to let things chill for awhile. When things get heated sometimes the best course of action is to cool off and let time resolve the situation
2. Even though there are devs not on xda we do exchange emails or talk on other forums...sometimes even gtalk. The real gpl complaints come that way as well as from pm with specific issues linked and evidence given. Simply saying he's breaking the rules with no proof gets u no where with the mod team
3. Actually 99% of the time we have nothing go do and that's a good thing. At times we simply go into threads...clean them up and leave a warning. If it gets bad then u take further actions. Keeping a cool head and having to remain neutral helps to not get so mad since u don't take sides its easier. If it gets personal or u r personally involved that's when u step aside and let ur fellow mods help. We r all a big team and work together
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Mazda said:
Where do babies come from?? HAHAHAHA
Obviously I'm joking BUT I do have a serious question.
Why does the search feature go down once a day??
I know a lot of noobs don't notice this because they don't search BUT I use it all day long and I know I'm not the only one that finds this annoying!
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U see when ur mom was hot I meet her at this hotel...I have pictures if u want details and well 9 months later we had a son named alex. I was ashamed of him so I left....lmso jk man.
Search = bang head against wall.
We really have no control of it. Its a server issue I think
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Papa Smurf151 said:
U see when ur mom was hot I meet her at this hotel...I have pictures if u want details and well 9 months later we had a son named alex. I was ashamed of him so I left....lmso jk man.
Search = bang head against wall.
We really have no control of it. Its a server issue I think
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Thanks.......DAD??!?? HAHAHAHAHHA
ramjet73 said:
Thanks to pstevep and papa smurf151 for opening this thread.
I'll try to start this in the spirit that I think it was intended by asking the mods what is the best way to handle a post that has been made in the wrong forum, something that rarely happens in the Evo 3d forums.
We don't want to discourage new users that might not know better, but there are detailed guidelines posted for the development forum by papa smurf151 as a sticky in that forum, and general guidelines for new threads in the Forum & Marketplace Rules post at the top of each forum.
In your opinions, is it appropriate to link those guidelines when a post is misplaced or better to just reference them and let the users find them on their own? It's a good exercise to find them yourself when you are not even aware that they exist, but sometimes that discourages users from actually reading them.
This may sound trivial so far, but my real question is whether or not we should report these posts. Is it helpful to the mods to report posts, or better to just wait until someone gets around to reviewing the new threads.
On a broader scale, when would you recommend that we report posts versus just leaving it to the mods to handle them?
ramjet73
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Ok if ud like please post a link in the thread posted in wrong section to my guidelines and then report.
id rather come hone from work with 15 reported posts then to search around and see a flame war over something really stupid and trivial.
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This was a great idea. I just want to say thank you to ramjet, pvstepup, and papasmurf for allowing a chance for normal members to come together and let members have a chance to clear the air of any matters that maybe unclear. This is one is for papasmurf: I notice more recently that you have locked quite a few threads with all having something to do with opinions of what's the best Rom or kernel. Now many of us get the idea that you are preventing flaming wars and trying to keep things civil. Myself and many others are wondering, is our hunches accurate?
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Yup ur spot on. In my dealing with these threads they turn ugly real fast. Devs get feelings hurt. Fan boys bash others roms or promote their favs. Its really all opinion and u know what they say about opinions. My suggestion is don't participate. In the og evo section we've instigated this rule and its prevented countless fights and clean up work for the mods
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Mazda said:
Where do babies come from?? HAHAHAHA
Obviously I'm joking BUT I do have a serious question.
Why does the search feature go down once a day??
I know a lot of noobs don't notice this because they don't search BUT I use it all day long and I know I'm not the only one that finds this annoying!
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Xda search is a google custom search, if it's down I just use google which typically yields similar results. I'm for real not trolling.
ramjet73 said:
Thanks to pstevep and papa smurf151 for opening this thread.
I'll try to start this in the spirit that I think it was intended by asking the mods what is the best way to handle a post that has been made in the wrong forum, something that rarely happens in the Evo 3d forums.
We don't want to discourage new users that might not know better, but there are detailed guidelines posted for the development forum by papa smurf151 as a sticky in that forum, and general guidelines for new threads in the Forum & Marketplace Rules post at the top of each forum.
In your opinions, is it appropriate to link those guidelines when a post is misplaced or better to just reference them and let the users find them on their own? It's a good exercise to find them yourself when you are not even aware that they exist, but sometimes that discourages users from actually reading them.
This may sound trivial so far, but my real question is whether or not we should report these posts. Is it helpful to the mods to report posts, or better to just wait until someone gets around to reviewing the new threads.
On a broader scale, when would you recommend that we report posts versus just leaving it to the mods to handle them?
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Please please please please use report. There's only 3 of us fsm, plus pstevep. We can't see it all thread wise since we all moderate more than just this forum, but we can see the reports (and faster). PM's work too.
And I thought babies came from the cabbage patch. It's at least cool to have 1 thread for drama. ie. V6 supercharger
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Where did the zero tolerance threads go?
iTzLOLtrain said:
Where did the zero tolerance threads go?
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It was retired. It was never meant to be here forever. It was a tool to calm things down. It worked and the reins were loosened as we do not like being dictators but will if need be.
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Mazda said:
Where do babies come from?? HAHAHAHA
Obviously I'm joking BUT I do have a serious question.
Why does the search feature go down once a day??
I know a lot of noobs don't notice this because they don't search BUT I use it all day long and I know I'm not the only one that finds this annoying!
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Oh the lovely search. It actually goes down when our custom cache gets corrupted on the server. Then our server guy has to rebuild cache which takes several hours typically. It's annoying for everyone, especially the server guy.
DarkRazorZ said:
Just a few questions. I'm not sure if these fall under the questions that are allowed to be asked, but:
1.] Is Agrabren simply not allowed to post CDMA builds anymore? I still don't truly understand the path his CDMA development has gone, it seems to come and go.
2.] To my understanding there are false GPL claims being made against him. How exactly are those claims made/handled? Is it an automated system? If not, wouldn't it be possible to tell which claims being made are just trolls?
3.] How do you guys put up with the drama so well? I would have lost my mind a long time ago :crying:
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Lord how did I know this type of question would be at the beginning.
1. He could post his CDMA build if he wanted to. Gpl wise he provides source. However due to circumstances that everyone is aware it is not being posted for the good of everyone involved. I told him that if he isn't going to post it though, we can't have it accessible from anything on here. Believe me for right now it's the greater good.
2. When a gpl claim is reported its handled ostensibly like any other report. Except that usually a senior mod and or a member of the dev committee is brought in to look at it. If there are any issues we address them with the dev in question. Agrabren's issues were looked into and addressed appropriately. Sometimes yes its easy to know when it's just trolling, but not always, it's a serious matter so we tend to take it seriously.
3. I honestly think my 3 year old had a lot to do with it for me. Calmed me down, made me more patient. Plus I'm the type of person who likes to fix things so I tend to try and defuse situations by nature. I think everyone deserves respect, and if you talk to me I will talk to you. If you work with me, i will work with you. I want what's best for the community.
Hope that helps.
ramjet73 said:
Thanks to pstevep and papa smurf151 for opening this thread.
I'll try to start this in the spirit that I think it was intended by asking the mods what is the best way to handle a post that has been made in the wrong forum, something that rarely happens in the Evo 3d forums.
We don't want to discourage new users that might not know better, but there are detailed guidelines posted for the development forum by papa smurf151 as a sticky in that forum, and general guidelines for new threads in the Forum & Marketplace Rules post at the top of each forum.
In your opinions, is it appropriate to link those guidelines when a post is misplaced or better to just reference them and let the users find them on their own? It's a good exercise to find them yourself when you are not even aware that they exist, but sometimes that discourages users from actually reading them.
This may sound trivial so far, but my real question is whether or not we should report these posts. Is it helpful to the mods to report posts, or better to just wait until someone gets around to reviewing the new threads.
On a broader scale, when would you recommend that we report posts versus just leaving it to the mods to handle them?
ramjet73
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Just report instantly. Or you can pm me directly. I don't always see the reported posts as much as I'm mobile 75% of the time. I have a lot of gut feelings that pay off and I'm in the right place at the right time. I also have devs (not as much in the 3d forum) that will gtalk me when something is going down. But report as soon as you see it is the best Option.
EDIT: as for wrong posting. You can instruct the person politely that they are in the wrong forum, but still report so we can move it. Does that help?
il Duce said:
Please please please please use report. There's only 3 of us fsm, plus pstevep. We can't see it all thread wise since we all moderate more than just this forum, but we can see the reports (and faster). PM's work too.
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Where the heck have you been? There are 6 in here now not counting me. Granted one is fairly inactive, but still 6 listed.
Yeah six fsm in here but 3 fsm that are active at all.
plus u of course
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il Duce said:
What they said ^
Also, as I am often seen as the more angry mod (I'm doing my best to curtail that), hopefully I'll be able to eloquently explain the reasons for my shortness.
Carry on.
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Why are you the angry mod? Was it something from your childhood?
In all seriousness, I don't see how you're considered the angry mod. You've always been helpful. In fact, I've noticed in the teamd3rp Q&A, you're one of the only ones answering questions.
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Why can't I find the anthrax kernel here I used to use it on meanrom but now I can't find it anywhere! I my opinion there is no better kernel.
That sucker flew not to mention I hate the stock kernel!
So could you point me to the anthrax GB kernel that would be great or at least who makes it! I only remember the name of it because it has the same name of my favorite band.
coal686 said:
Why are you the angry mod? Was it something from your childhood?
In all seriousness, I don't see how you're considered the angry mod. You've always been helpful. In fact, I've noticed in the teamd3rp Q&A, you're one of the only ones answering questions.
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Because I go off on people.
spirithandler said:
Why can't I find the anthrax kernel here I used to use it on meanrom but now I can't find it anywhere! I my opinion there is no better kernel.
That sucker flew not to mention I hate the stock kernel!
So could you point me to the anthrax GB kernel that would be great or at least who makes it! I only remember the name of it because it has the same name of my favorite band.
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See attached
Anyone know why newtoroots thread was locked / closed? Just all of the sudden it became locked and closed.
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Ya WTF?
insane someone trys to break through and gets slammed down ... hello who ever OPEN SOURCE ....
mike_augie said:
insane someone trys to break through and gets slammed down ... hello who ever OPEN SOURCE ....
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XDA is NOT open source only Android.
What rule was broken
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termin8tor22 said:
What rule was broken
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Probably forgot to add someone to the credits.. thats how it is around here now.
I'm not mad hope we get it squared away soon enough.
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What rule was broken
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A whole bunch I believe...lol
Rule #1: Never leave a fellow Crasher behind. Crashers take care of their own.
Rule #6: Do not sit in the corner and sulk.
Rule #33: Never go back to your place.
Rule #34: Be gone by sunrise.
Rule #71: No excuses. Play like a champion!
Not really sure but I thought a little comedy couldn't hurt
I like the reference haha
Mod said:
"Due to an infringement of XDA rules.
@OP, Let me know when this solves so we can re open thread."
I'm guessing that means newt closed it? I have no idea!!
Newt has said on another thread that the sense 5 thread will be open soon!
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Probably either that or that... my guesses but idk why... maybe something HTC related?
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
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Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
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In regards to permissions, same rules remain for this but if permission was already given, unless there is a very valid reason, it cannot be revoked (same applies to major updates on the work). Under that same premise, permissions cannot be denied unless the work is exclusive or under severe circumstances.
In plain English: If you want to keep your work exclusive, go for it. However, if you are going to share your work, do it fairly.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA (including but not limited to ROMs, RUUs, apps, games, kernels, themes, icons, etc) unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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