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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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This is probably a network coverage issue and nothing you can do about it from a phone standpoint.
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
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Yes, I mean AT&T. Having four bars means that you have a good signal. It does not indicate however how much bandwidth AT&T has allocated to that particular area/tower.
Think of it like a wireless router at home or office. On your laptop or computer, you see that you have a strong WiFi signal but, that does not mean that you have a fast connection as that depends on your DSL/cable connection.
Get my point?
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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No, it did not screw your phone. Your phone is innocent here. It is probably the network. AT&T may have a problem in that area. Did you try the speed somewhere else?
Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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I am on att also with the 2.1, luckily im in an area where i get around 2mb/2mb sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Did you try the setting in wirelessnetworks/mobile networks/network mode/ tick wcdma only if not on H. could help not sure, just a thought.
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Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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Your phone automatically switches between H/3G/E where available. I also have AT&T and have debranded my phone and did not notice any lag.
your problem is AT&T.
H is higher than 3G. if you got problems with it it`s because the signal is strong enough to use H but it preforms worse than 3G (cunfusing ah?!)
Well I was outside of my town the other day, in the country and noticed I was in hsdpa somehow so I ran a test and out there I was getting on average about 3.7 mbps. I guess where I am most of the time just isn't an optimal spot. Thanks all for the responses!
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Ok, so I am convert from AT&T and my iPhone 3gs - One of the first apps I like to run is Speed Test so I can gauge what I should be getting - and on my iPhone I used to get 1300 or so K download, and 175 up.
I have run speedtest a few times today and in 10 tests I pull an average of70kbps download and 283up .... Someone please tell me this isnt normal .... Granted that we have a very cloudy day with rain here in Buffalo, but I cant imagine this is even close to what I should get in DL speeds?
in my office building i only get "yellow" for service and right now im getting 585 dl and 61 ul. outside is even better
4g i get 6703 dl and 1430 ul
much better than the 4g in here btw. i don't think i broke 2000 dl inside here, and my status never went above the grey color
Yeah, something isnt right here - I hate to say it, but I may have to call support....
Is the network really congested in your area? I get speeds like that at Tigers games.
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Yeah, something isnt right here - I hate to say it, but I may have to call support....
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Update your PRL. 01120 Should be good. If you don't get 01120, try updating it like 6 times in a row. Oddly enough, its how I got on 01120, which someone who's confused about who-the-man is, says it's biz only PRL. I'm not biz though, I was just sittin here and kept hitting update and it changed to it. Not sure if there's something in the system that allows it to happen or what.
With 4/6 bars on EVDO I'll get ~1500 down and ~800 up
WiMax 1/3 bars 4500 down and 1400 up (1400 is highest upload pretty much)
WiMax 2/3 = 7000 down
and 3/3 tethered = 13000
I stopped at the store and they said it more than likely all the activations, man where they packed, 3D phones going left and right (and some other models).
Also did the PRL update, didnt seem to fix anything ... Ill give them until Next week for these speed issues.
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Ok, so I am convert from AT&T and my iPhone 3gs - One of the first apps I like to run is Speed Test so I can gauge what I should be getting - and on my iPhone I used to get 1300 or so K download, and 175 up.
I have run speedtest a few times today and in 10 tests I pull an average of70kbps download and 283up .... Someone please tell me this isnt normal .... Granted that we have a very cloudy day with rain here in Buffalo, but I cant imagine this is even close to what I should get in DL speeds?
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well coming from at&t 3g to sprint 3g is a 50% reduction in speed on paper. cdma is capped at 3.1mbps while gsm is at 7.2. one reason id switch to a more capable technology were it not for the data caps. but you are right, sprints 3g speeds need to be faster. i for one am dissatisfied with sprints 3g.
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well coming from at&t 3g to sprint 3g is a 50% reduction in speed on paper. cdma is capped at 3.1mbps while gsm is at 7.2. one reason id switch to a more capable technology were it not for the data caps. but you are right, sprints 3g speeds need to be faster. i for one am dissatisfied with sprints 3g.
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I've had 2.4Mb down and 1.1 up on EVDOA. Sadly only recently has the WiMax u/l been lifted to 1.5. 2.4Mb down on a cell phone is quite a bit. Granted it's more in the 1 - 1.5Mb range on average, what do you do besides youtube that you'd need more than that? Tethering? Most websites take longer for the phones to process than it does to download the actual content.
Well, I honestly cannot even stream music with the 60k Im getting. It skips alot.... I also used to do Netflix in my car for lunch (Connected to my LCD Screen). Im not looking for 2Mb or anything close, but I would expect anything around 700kbs to 1.2Mbs or so..
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Well, I honestly cannot even stream music with the 60k Im getting. It skips alot.... I also used to do Netflix in my car for lunch (Connected to my LCD Screen). Im not looking for 2Mb or anything close, but I would expect anything around 700kbs to 1.2Mbs or so..
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me too...me too.
I had the same issue since Wednesday, couldn't get over 120kbps on 3G. Sprint had me redo the activation and it fixed my issues.
You'll need access to the data programming menu, so you have to have your MSL code. Type ##3282# in the dialer, then use your MSL as the password. Go to the data menu and then hit the menu key and click Restore. It'll re-run the activation, update PRL, then update firmware.
Hope it works for others.
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I am also getting terrible 3G speeds. Highest I've seen thus far is 130kbps. I had the phone reactivated, restored the data profile and still no luck. I went into the Sprint retail location and they did say that since there has been so many activations and bandwidth usage today, the 3G speeds have been extremely slow. I am expecting these data speeds to rise within the next day or two otherwise its going back...
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I am also getting terrible 3G speeds. Highest I've seen thus far is 130kbps. I had the phone reactivated, restored the data profile and still no luck. I went into the Sprint retail location and they did say that since there has been so many activations and bandwidth usage today, the 3G speeds have been extremely slow. I am expecting these data speeds to rise within the next day or two otherwise its going back...
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I am posting from Centreville, VA (Fairfax, Northern Virginia area) and I will add that my 3G speeds are horrid.
With full bars the Spider Man game stopped at like 15% download progress and kept failing....I certainly hope this is because of activations or else I will be going back to my Samsung Galaxy S 4G from T-Mobile where I get 4G signal everywhere I go....unlike Sprint.
Sprint isnt exactly known for its fast data speeds. You guys are more than likely in an area with slower speeds, like myself.
I highly doubt that the data speeds are as slow as they have been within the past 24 hours. If that was the case, no one would have sprint....I am confident it will pick up.
I am also getting really slow speeds. This is my first time with Sprint, so I'm not sure if this is the norm.
Anyone, previously on Sprint, noticing slower speeds after getting 3vo?
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Sprint isnt exactly known for its fast data speeds. You guys are more than likely in an area with slower speeds, like myself.
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slower then edge speeds? lol .. . my sister has the Evo and she gets about 1.2 mb at my house, i get between 3kbps-124kbps
I went to the Sprint store where I bought the phone and I was told phone data is not like Comcast, and that it can be spotty and sometimes give you 3kbps because it is not Comcast, and I'm welcomed to return the phone if I'd like.
Coming from verizon, in the new hampshire area. My service on sprint has been sub par with terrible download speeds. I hope things improve, because I really do like the phone.
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Coming from verizon, in the new hampshire area. My service on sprint has been sub par with terrible download speeds. I hope things improve, because I really do like the phone.
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.02 down and .01mb up... This phone is probably going back.
I'm in central Florida (kissimmee/Orlando) and I'm getting an average of 3mbps down and 1.1mbps up. Just curious as to what the rest of you are getting.
Also this might be a silly question, but if I'm on "4G", should it say UMTS or HSPA+ in my about phone status?
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It says HPSA. Haven't checked my speeds, been on Wi-Fi.
what are your pings?
Ping 75 ms
Download 3681 kbps
Upload 617kbps
does it feel fast as far as when you hit the browser until a page loads?
Yes the browser performance is quite good.
More info: HSPA+ isn't available in Charlotte currently, Charlotte uses the 1900 band
I live in Indianapolis, IN and I have an H+ on my status bar and my speeds were clocked at
4139 kbps down
1105 kbps up
130ms ping
I am currently a bit further out than Indianapolis at the moment though so I am not sure if the speeds will be better once I am in the city.
Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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H+ means HSPA+, this is not an LTE (real 4G) phone.
Mine is showing H+ up top but UMTS in phone status. My ping is averaging 150ms. So far feels faster than my captivate, but I was expecting better.
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I was more asking if the H+ icon actually means we are getting hspa+. As the speeds don't seem that much better than what I had on my captivate. Also when I dial *#0011# it says HSPA+ used:0 leading me to believe the h+ icon has no real meaning.
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I'm in central Florida (kissimmee/Orlando) and I'm getting an average of 3mbps down and 1.1mbps up. Just curious as to what the rest of you are getting.
Also this might be a silly question, but if I'm on "4G", should it say UMTS or HSPA+ in my about phone status?
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My S2 will be sitting idle until some ROMs pop up, but the S2 demo in my local AT&T store got around 2.5 mbps down and 1 mbps up (which is typical for my area).
When in the settings, you'll see UMTS. Devices often switch to HSDPA/HSPA when a data session starts.
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Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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No, I haven't turned mine on yet but with other devices AT&T set them up to display H+ for UMTS (3G) and HSPA (3.5G).
on my inspire in southeastern connecticut, I'm getting 6mb down and 2mb up, with a ping of 101. this is on H, not hspa+. hopefully my gs2 will be a bit faster once i get it
Anywhere from 3-8 down and a pretty consistent 1.0 up here in Akron Ohio and surrounding areas
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Not sure what's up with my speeds...
44kbps Download
45kbps Upload
261ms Ping
This is in Little Falls, NJ
At my house I'm getting about 3 Mbps down 1 up. With my captivate I got around 1.8 down .9 up. Slight improvement.
However my wifi connection is way faster.
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Interesting, I'm having a trend of faster pings but lower data speeds on my gs2 than my inspire. In areas I would get around 4-5 mbps the gs2 gets 3xxx, and where I normally connect in my living room at 28-2900 I am now getting 1500 or so. However ping is twice as fast
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Interesting, I'm having a trend of faster pings but lower data speeds on my gs2 than my inspire. In areas I would get around 4-5 mbps the gs2 gets 3xxx, and where I normally connect in my living room at 28-2900 I am now getting 1500 or so. However ping is twice as fast
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Maybe it's enough compensation (latency) for slower speeds?
I'm getting 8-9 Mbps down and about 1 Mbps up in midtown Atlanta right now in the middle of the day.
I am in between Washington D.C and Baltimore MD and I am getting the following. I will try and remember to bring my Captivate to work tomorrow to see if there is a huge difference between the two.
2816 down
937 up
99ms Ping
So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
It would be nice, I have never seen 3G speeds on any CDMA network in my area above 500k - including Verizon, I actually see better more consistent speeds with Sprint than VZW.
I have my doubts though, living in the sticks really does have advantages, but stuff like this sucks.
I just did the speed test and on 3g i got 2.34mbps down and .64 mbps up. Those are pretty standard numbers for me. I do have an airave at home so don' know if that is making a difference.
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
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My bad, I did not have my glasses on. 2.8Md/1.4Mu (missed some zeros). All Networks are improving 3G (the currently majority of their base model phones) by using different forms of compression for greater speeds. Oh well..........
I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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My data connection is suddenly being very intermittent, too.
I'll try updating my PRL and Profile.... See if that helps at all.
My websurfing is flaky as heck, my Google Talk connection keeps going in and out (and taking a long time to re-login) and I can't seem to update the Android market.
I had just run the "supercharger v6" script, but that shouldn't affect my data connection.... right????
Well let's hope for the best. I'm getting full bars everywhere in Anaheim, CA and speed is constant. I just watched my first youtube video without a single hiccup on 3G
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3g improvements
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So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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3g in my house is usually ~1mb down / 700kb up or so..
Just did a test - 300kb down / 500kb up. This is in the suburbs of san francisco..
(I think we're feeling the iphone saturation..)
I used to get ~1mbps down but in the least three months I've only been getting 30-150 kbps down and 30 kbps up. Totally unusable.
My gf just got a vivid, I changed her apn to the same I use on my gs2. But on both the speedtest app n speakeasy the vivid consistently hits 10mbps while my gs2 barely hits 6mbps. Both right next to each other in nyc. Why the large discrepancy between phones? Running same apns n hspa network.
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I'm just guessing, but NYC probably has LTE coverage so your GFs phone will have faster speeds in those areas.
There's no LTE in nyc. The phone shows if it was connected to LTE. I
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Are you running stock or a custom rom? IIRC at&t is known to limit their devices from full speeds. They have likely done this to make the skyrocket look faster even in non lte areas. I remember reading about this a while ago on other devices.
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My atrix 2 was about 30% faster with downloads as well. It said 4g all the time but ATT lies, H+ I reckon.
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Yes may be very true, I was once told that at&t had the mechanism that could regulate particular type of phones' data speed based on region,time of the day,etc and could speed up/ down such as apps /email/ movie download/live stream,etc. I guess every carrier does so to keep these things under control. I tested iphone 4s and ASGS2 on HSPA+, the iphone 4s was faster on data and had good call quality compared to ASGS2. Because critics out there keep comparing verizon's iphone speed and at&t's iphone speed to write reviews, the carrier is forced to keep up the reputation of certain devices for certain time as it's a big selling point!
Our plans for hspa+ are regulated and lte plans aren't regulated for speed.
Here is a good way to test, put her sim card in your phone and see the speeds you get.
I've never changed the APN on my phone...would I get better speeds doing so? Im in Detroit and usually don't get above 1.5mbps down and 1.5mbps up
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for me HSPA+ is just a scam,,, I upgrade to the SGS2 from a Captivate SGS1, and I getting the same speedtest results that I was getting with the Captivate.
I live in DFW area so AT&T is pretty good here... with the Captivate I was getting an average of 3.9mbps Down and 1.5 mbps (it was provisioned with the iPhone Unlimited Data Plan), with the SGS2 (Provisioned with Smartphone Unlimited Data Plan) I'm getting an average of 4.1mbps down and 1.5 mbps. basically the same.
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My gf just got a vivid, I changed her apn to the same I use on my gs2. But on both the speedtest app n speakeasy the vivid consistently hits 10mbps while my gs2 barely hits 6mbps. Both right next to each other in nyc. Why the large discrepancy between phones? Running same apns n hspa network.
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Switch SIM cards and see if you still get the same results. Let us know.
Ok guys! Switched sim cards, the gs2 with the vivid sim card still same speeds 6mbps. But if I put my gs2 sim card on the vivid it still hits well above 6mbps between 9-10mbps. Unless I have a bad phone i think the gs2 is the problem. I'm running unnamed 1.3 and the htc vivid is stock.
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I'd say go get the Vivid or skyrocket if you want faster speeds. Anything HSPA will probably be slower than an LTE phone regardless of what we think we know. I had a skyrocket with faster speeds and never noticed it because the device itself was SLOWER than the GSII, I'm sure the Vivid is even worse than the skyrocket. Anyway its probably not a bad phone or a fluke its probably just the way the AT&T network is. I have an LTE Verizon work phone and get 33 to 40mb down and 8 to 10mb up and still use my GSII because the device is faster and renders pages faster than my super fast internet on my crappy verizon phone (droid charge)
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Ok guys! Switched sim cards, the gs2 with the vivid sim card still same speeds 6mbps. But if I put my gs2 sim card on the vivid it still hits well above 6mbps between 9-10mbps. Unless I have a bad phone i think the gs2 is the problem. I'm running unnamed 1.3 and the htc vivid is stock.
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if I were getting 6mbps with my SGS2 I'll be extremely happy.
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if I were getting 6mbps with my SGS2 I'll be extremely happy.
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Seriously, if I ever hit 2mbps, I'll **** bricks. I measure my speeds in kilobytes.
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Seriously, if I ever hit 2mbps, I'll **** bricks. I measure my speeds in kilobytes.
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Same here bud. Same here. Just the other day after almost 6 weeks of having my ASGS2 I go the fastest speed yet at 4200. Normally I'm hovering around 2000. What I have learned tho is that the speedtest app can be decieving. If I'm on the Frankfurt, IN server, I don't get above 600 ever. Swap to Arora, IL and I'm back up in the 2k range.
I don't get these speed tests. I'm in San Diego and when I use a server in San Diego, I get speeds between 2-3Mbps. If I change servers in the Tools section, Los Angeles, CA for example, I get 5Mbps. So, what does that really mean when I'm downloading apps, watching Netflix or just surfing the web on my SGS2? What is my real speed?
Nobody knows for sure if the speedtest app really works or not. I usually go to my browser and hit the speedtest there.
Also, if your phone downloadds fast (regardless of a number), then be happy.
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Nobody knows for sure if the speedtest app really works or not. I usually go to my browser and hit the speedtest there.
Also, if your phone downloadds fast (regardless of a number), then be happy.
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Yup. I'm happy. I'm even happier that my SGS2 is so much faster than my Cappy (sold for $150). Love it. I was watching a streaming NFL game. It was streaming at a very good rate, clear, not so pixelated -- you can see the score and the small graphics. Thanks to good ol' unlimited data. Just don't go over the limit and get throttled, right? That's for another thread.
Vivd may have a better radio or hardware....after all it is a newer device.
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Yup. I'm happy. I'm even happier that my SGS2 is so much faster than my Cappy (sold for $150). Love it. I was watching a streaming NFL game. It was streaming at a very good rate, clear, not so pixelated -- you can see the score and the small graphics.
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Mind if I ask what method you were using to stream an NFL game?