Hello! Do I Have to back up my data for firmware update? I plan on useing kies
Also could somone shoot me a link to the best tutorial for rooting my sgs2
Kies firmware update doesn't hard reset or wipe data on the SD. However if your data is valuable it's best to back everything up in Kies first as Kies update have a habit of failing and you may need to do a full restore.
In the Development forum follow Intratech's guide for upgrading and rooting. Odin is an easier and safer tool to use for updates, it's quicker than Kies too.
In the Development forum follow Intratech's guide for upgrading and rooting. Odin is an easier and safer tool to use for updates, it's quicker than Kies too.
However you are likely to loose your official upgrade path via Kies .
Upgraded stock Samsung firmware may be rejected by phone provider under a warranty claim and phone has to go to Samsung .
jje
Hi Everyone.
I've done a fair bit of reading to the point I'm starting to get myself confused so would like to check what I've put together and see if I'm correct.
I want to root using this method which i believe doesn't increase the flash counter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319653
then install the Frankenstein XWKH4 firmware/kernel from here using mobile odin (again doesn't increase flash counter):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
This should allow me to use dslrcontroller.
If i ever need to return the phone I should then be able to re-root as above or with mobile odin again and install the original firmware XWKF3 with no traces.
Am i correct in this or have I missed something? As i said i've tried to read up as much as possible, but have hit a wall.
Thanks for any help.
Ed
You're sort of right. Rooting using that method does not increase the counter and neither does mobile Odin, but you don't need to root to use DSLR controller, just be on a compatible firmware.
Flashing an original KGx/KHx firmware in Odin is enough, which will not increase the counter.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with what you've said, just unneeded steps. Flashing a stock firmware in Odin should not void your warranty.
thanks for the quick reply. i couldn't work out if it was rooting, flashing the firmware or both that increased the counter.
can i do the firmware and kernel with out root as im on kf3 at the moment?
You do not need root to flash any stock firmware using Odin. Also, the only thing which will increase your custom binary counter is flashing an unofficial kernel.
ok tried kies , but that does not work with my phone cant upgrade or emergency recover it . if i just use odin with stock ROM will it lose my root and everything . i want it as close as i can get to when i turned the phone on 1st time
adz63 said:
ok tried kies , but that does not work with my phone cant upgrade or emergency recover it . if i just use odin with stock ROM will it lose my root and everything . i want it as close as i can get to when i turned the phone on 1st time
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?? If you want it back to as close as you can get to when you turned it on the first time, you won't have root anyways. Just flash whatever firmware from Intratech's thread you want.
First you need to flash your original firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
If its a carrier based firmware then look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
If you have a firmware thats 2.3.4 or higher and have the new non-wipe bootloader then flashs the old one ine PDA in Odin so the jig will work.
http://www.multiupload.com/LQQBRQVJUD
and then root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Hi guys,
right so what i did is this
flash (odin) stock xwlp7 (three italy) stock rom
rooted in order to install few mods
reset conter using triangle away
recreated stock kernel from stock rom and flashed it
now i connect the phone to kies, it does indeed connect, but it says kies is unable to upgrade firmware on my phone, how can i solve this ?
i would like to keep the phone as it is now(with my mods) but have it unrooted and kies being able to upgrade firmmware un future.
it's my wife's phone and i want it to be ok if something should go wrong and i would have to bring it in assistance.
thanks in advance
you have already got used to flashing update manually from ODIN...when future update comes do it in the same way....
While you are already on a latest firmware and there is nothing to upgrade Keis to do what?...
Kies requires original firmware with all codes matching .
or download the firmware via CHECKFUS ..
Or join XDA Developers forum and ignore Kies .
jje
JJEgan said:
Kies requires original firmware with all codes matching .
or download the firmware via CHECKFUS ..
Or join XDA Developers forum and ignore Kies .
jje
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sorry maybe i did not explain myself
what i want is the phone to be fine for insurance purpose.
so i re installed stock kernel after installing mods (status bar and crt off)
basically i installed stock firmware, obtained root to install these mod, then flashed stock kernel in order to be all stock,but apparently kies still sees something modified on my phone and says it cannot be upgraded.
all i want is the phone to be stock now without loosing my mods
wwwpuntoit said:
sorry maybe i did not explain myself
what i want is the phone to be fine for insurance purpose.
so i re installed stock kernel after installing mods (status bar and crt off)
basically i installed stock firmware, obtained root to install these mod, then flashed stock kernel in order to be all stock,but apparently kies still sees something modified on my phone and says it cannot be upgraded.
all i want is the phone to be stock now without loosing my mods
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Unless codes match Kies will not see a firmware .You will just keep going around in circles like all the other modify phone and want Kies to update posters .
A total removal of KIES and all registry entries with a fresh install may help .
SEE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089874
Copy of original .
One original firmware download from stock or branded provider rom threads and save or use CHECKFUS to download and flash via Odin .
Easy to flash if required and no need to involve KIES .
jje
i have few Q's im new 2 rooting ,my 1q is if i root my S2 then will i able to update it in future via kies ?2q is after rooting can i able to update my S2 according to my region firmware or after rooting i have to install other !!!thx
after rooting if you doesn't change anything, like csc and modem than yes kies will work.
didnt understand rest of the questions
atifsh said:
after rooting if you doesn't change anything, like csc and modem than yes kies will work.
didnt understand rest of the questions
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thx, im asking that if i can root then i will get future updates of my currently specified region on S2 ? & will it will b detected by kies or i have to use odin for future updates
Kies is a crappy piece of software.
Odin or mobile Odin are much better.
You will always be able to update/restore using odin.
Simply download your firmware using an app called checkfus. (Check firmware update server)
Then flash via Odin.
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atifsh said:
after rooting if you doesn't change anything, like csc and modem than yes kies will work.
didnt understand rest of the questions
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If you root it Kies will not be able to update it.
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mattyh77 said:
If you root it Kies will not be able to update it.
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what i know is you can if you stay genuine, means dont change csc modem kernel.
if you go custom you cant and changing even a csc makes you custom
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metalz007 said:
thx, im asking that if i can root then i will get future updates of my currently specified region on S2 ? & will it will b detected by kies or i have to use odin for future updates
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as far i know if you just root without changing anything you can, but might be wrong as i really dont use kies
I thought you could also update by KIES, even if you are rooted.. unless you are on a other ROM than an original samsung ROM..
But on the other hand, you can also watch on samfirmware if there might be an update en update your SGS2 through odin, then you dont need KIES after all..
mattyh77 said:
If you root it Kies will not be able to update it.
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Just rooting makes no difference to kies. You will still be able to update.
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From my experience if your rooted, Kies doesn't recignise it for update. Guess its depends how you root it. But IMHO kies sucks. Better of using Odin and do it manually. Less chance of stuff ups. You can reset and clear cache, then restore with titanium. I don't know how many times on here I've read people having troubles after a kies update. I always wipe and clear, never had a problem.
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Unlike some Sony and Motorola devices, rooting the Galaxy S2 doesn't require you to unlock the bootloader. Other than having the "SU" program installed in the system partition, there are no other changes in the device. That is, if you take a more conservative approach to the rooting process other than flashing insecure kernels and the like. There are ways of rooting that leave your phone just like it was before - except that there is a 'su' binary in there.
Some phones won't update with KIES after rooting because some users with root privileges make changes to their device that prevent KIES from updating the phone. KIES however - and that's be written before - is a crappy piece of software. It's nearly useless - totally, actually! You absolutely don't need KIES for anything.
Installing ROMs and kernels using ODIN have nothing to do with rooting. You don't need one to make the other work. For Mobile ODIN you need root, however.
You can flash any ROM you want, including official ones, usin ODIN or Mobile ODIN. There are, however, several advantages to using Mobile Odin:
- it leaves your phone rooted after the process (if you want), even with official ROMs
- it can work with any ROM you want
- there is no need to enter download mode, which confuses some users
- it doesn't increase the flash counter
- it works from the phone, so there is no need of a computer to make it work
- it allows you to select only the part of the flash archive you want (bootloader, kernel, system, csc, etc)
Like I said, the problem some users with rooted phones have is that they go on an "uninstalling spree", and uninstall more than they should have. That sometimes renders the phone malfunctioning is some aspects. If you root, be careful with what you do afterwards regarding messing with system apps.
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Simonetti2011 said:
Unlike some Sony and Motorola devices, rooting the Galaxy S2 doesn't require you to unlock the bootloader. Other than having the "SU" program installed in the system partition. That is, if you take a more conservative approach to the rooting process other than flashing insecure kernels and the like. There are ways of rooting that leave your phone just like it was before - except that there is a 'su' binary in there.
Some phones won't update with KIES after rooting because some users with root privileges make changes to their device that prevent KIES from updating the phone. KIES however - and that's be written before - is a crappy piece of software. It's nearly useless - totally, actually! You absolutely don't need KIES for anything.
Installing ROMs and kernels using ODIN have nothing to do with rooting. You don't need one to make the other work. For Mobile ODIN you need root, however.
You can flash any ROM you want, including official ones, usin ODIN or Mobile ODIN. There are, however, several advantages to using Mobile Odin:
- it leaves your phone rooted after the process (if you want), even with official ROMs
- it can work with any ROM you want
- there is no need to enter download mode, which confuses some users
- it doesn't increase the flash counter
- it works from the phone, so there is no need of a computer to make it work
- it allows you to select only the part of the flash archive you want (bootloader, kernel, system, csc, etc)
Like I said, the problem some users with rooted phones have is that they go on an "uninstalling spree", and uninstall more than they should have. That sometimes renders the phone malfunctioning is some aspects. If you root, be careful with what you do afterwards regarding messing with system apps.
If you like this answer, hit the "thanks" button.
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Nice reply.
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