[Q] Help me with Basic Android development tools - Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Help me with Basic Android development tools - Galaxy Ace S5830i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, at the outset I would like to make it clear I am the beginner of all beginners when it comes Android tweaking and the doubts are related to it.
I have Samsung Ace GT S5830i phone. Its rooted and CWM installed. Kindly help me clear the following doubts regarding custom roms, kernel and firmware.
1. What is a kernel and What is a stock firmware. Are there any differences between it.
2. If I am installing a custom ROM, which has a custom kernel. Which do I install first? ROM or KERnel? Or whether both are bundled together as a single installation.
3. What is Odin and for what is it used for
4. If I have a CWM backup of my phone, and while installing a custom rom with custom kernel, If my phone gets bricked. Can I unbrick it by restoring cwm backup I have taken, or should I have to go via Odin (also how do i do it via Odin)
5. Can I install a different kernel on the existing rom, will it wipe of all my applications and settings?

kungfuEngineer said:
Ok, at the outset I would like to make it clear I am the beginner of all beginners when it comes Android tweaking and the doubts are related to it.
I have Samsung Ace GT S5830i phone. Its rooted and CWM installed. Kindly help me clear the following doubts regarding custom roms, kernel and firmware.
1. What is a kernel and What is a stock firmware. Are there any differences between it.
2. If I am installing a custom ROM, which has a custom kernel. Which do I install first? ROM or KERnel? Or whether both are bundled together as a single installation.
3. What is Odin and for what is it used for
4. If I have a CWM backup of my phone, and while installing a custom rom with custom kernel, If my phone gets bricked. Can I unbrick it by restoring cwm backup I have taken, or should I have to go via Odin (also how do i do it via Odin)
5. Can I install a different kernel on the existing rom, will it wipe of all my applications and settings?
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Even though you posted in incorrect section I will help you with some answers.
1. a) What is a kernel?
b) Stock firmware is like the root of your machine. I would take windows for simple example as i think you are not aware of that.
-Your computer was firstly installed with Windows Vista and you later upgrade to a higher version of windows. Stock ROM in this case is Windows Vista.
- What is "firmware"?
Firmware refers to the applications and operating system that control how a cellphone or smartphone operates. It is called firmware rather than software to highlight that it is very closely tied to the particular hardware components of a device. Firmware is generally flashed into a phone's ROM rather than simply being loaded into normal phone storage, where it could more easily be erased and lost in the event of a crash. Firmware updates are sometimes provided by a company as a way to fix bugs or introduce new functionality. Unfortunately Samsung has abandoned firmware updates on low-end devices such as our Galaxy Ace.
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2. If the ROM zip contains the kernel there is no need of installing a custom kernel afterwards. Always when you flash something don't forget to mount /system, /data, /cache and /sdcard. It seems you have installed CWM Recovery so you should know about mounting.
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3. Odin was software that was first leaked back a couple years ago from Samsung. Samsung uses or used it to "flash" or "install" firmware/os/kernels/radio's onto the devices. Samsung still uses it or a form of it in certain releases as a Window's Upgrade Tool as its been known. Its still basically old Odin underneath a custom Window's UI skin.
Odin is your friend, respect it. If used improperly it can brick a device since it has the ability to flash very vulnerable sections of your device.
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4. a) If your phone can access through CWM then you can probably unbrick your device restoring your nandroid backup. In such case, the brick is called a soft-brick.
b) If your phone stucks on boot logo and has no access on CWM then, you should use ODIN to unbrick it.
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5. You can. I don't know if you loose some of your settings but what is certainly you won't loose is data (Unless you wipe it)
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You can use Google too for such questions. Also, you seem to be new here so please keep in mind these things :
- Never ask for ETAs (Expected Time of Arrival)
- For reporting bugs or asking questions about a ROM use its Discussion thread. If it has no discussion thread you are free to post in development thread.
- Do not post OFF-Topic replies on such threads. You are free to do such thing on the OFF-TOPIC thread on general section of this device.
- Follow XDA rules even if you feel embarrassed or offended. Report the user which does this to you instead.
- Instead of Replying "Thank you. It worked!" Just click Thanks button instead.
Good luck!
Regards,
Teddy

Search on google for all this questions..u definately find all solutions..
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Just Got My First Android ..

Ok so guys I bought a galaxy s2 I9100 last night...
And it is my first experience with android so i dont know anything about android...
I have previously used an ipod touch and jailbreaking was very simple....
But i tried to read about rooting my S2 , but everything bounced over my head....
Can anyone please tell me about rooting, cyanogen mod etc...
It would be really great someone explains me about all this stuff...
Thanks in advance.....
and ya
MODEL NO. GT-I9100
ANDROID version 2.3.3
BASEBAND version-I9100DDKE4
KERNEL [email protected]#2
BUILD NUMBER-GENGERBREAD.XWKF3

hiback said:
Ok so guys I bought a galaxy s2 I9100 last night...
And it is my first experience with android so i dont know anything about android...
I have previously used an ipod touch and jailbreaking was very simple....
But i tried to read about rooting my S2 , but everything bounced over my head....
Can anyone please tell me about rooting, cyanogen mod etc...
It would be really great someone explains me about all this stuff...
Thanks in advance.....
and ya
MODEL NO. GT-I9100
ANDROID version 2.3.3
BASEBAND version-I9100DDKE4
KERNEL [email protected]#2
BUILD NUMBER-GENGERBREAD.XWKF3
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read this first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
then once you read that go here to root your phone and follow the guide carefully.. you need to cf-kernel to root your phone to be able to enjoy android more...here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
any questions feel free to ask...but i will be honest just enjoy your handset for the time being read upon android and you should be fine..either way welcome aboard..

hiback said:
Ok so guys I bought a galaxy s2 I9100 last night...
And it is my first experience with android so i dont know anything about android...
I have previously used an ipod touch and jailbreaking was very simple....
But i tried to read about rooting my S2 , but everything bounced over my head....
Can anyone please tell me about rooting, cyanogen mod etc...
It would be really great someone explains me about all this stuff...
Thanks in advance.....
and ya
MODEL NO. GT-I9100
ANDROID version 2.3.3
BASEBAND version-I9100DDKE4
KERNEL [email protected]#2
BUILD NUMBER-GENGERBREAD.XWKF3
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There are many different stories to talk about.
As it is very difficult for me to identify your interests and knowledge, I reduce my answer to the IMO most important threads for SGS2:
1. Intratech's Official Firmware thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Please read the first post. There is a detailed description of how to flash a new Firmware/ROM to your phone, and there is a Quick Root Guide too.
This rooting method is very elegant (as you do not get a yellow triangle and the binary counter will not be increased), but it is a little bit "manual".
For a little bit more "automated" rooting, look at the next thread.
Most important is, that you can find the latest, official and stable Firmware version most as non-wipe together with the corresponding stock kernel, which you might need for getting rid of the yellow triangle after flashing a rooted kernel (such as CF-Root or SpeedMod).
I always prefer flashing Frankenstein ROMs from third post, as you can combine them to any other Firmware parts, such as Modem/Phone/Baseband (for inter-connectivity) and CSC (for region and/or carrier dependent customizations) files.
2. Chainfire's CF-Root thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399&highlight=CF+Root
Everything you need to root your phone is to flash a rooted kernel to your phone (See description in first post).
And if you want to get rid of the yellow triangle, Chainfire has described it in his second post.
The only thing to do is to find the corresponding kernel for your ROM.
So, it is useful to flash a new ROM first, then flash the corresponding CF-Root kernel and you have root access on your phone.
There are many other goodies which come along with CF-Root kernel, such as ClockWorkMod (CWM) recovery mode (an extended recovery mode including features, such as backup&restore, clear Dalvik cache, flash other zip files from sd card, etc.) and CWM Manager app (to have a very user-friendly app to make use of most new CWM recovery features).
But you can use any other rooted kernel, which is compatible with your ROM, to root your phone.
3. Custom ROMs ... such as CyanogenMod ...
There are many, custom ROMs and kernels optimized for different things, such as better performance (higher scores in benchmarks) or longer battery life.
You have to take your time and search on yourself what you really want most and which custom ROM or kernel you want to try.
Stick to the SGS II Official Android Development forum => http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
... search, read, test !
Just to be on the "safe" side, do a backup before flashing.
If you have CWM recovery mode (or CWM Manager app), just do a complete system / nandroid backup.
So you will be able to restore this backup, if one of the tested custom ROMs or kernels messed up your phone.
Good luck !

This Thing is really scary....lolz......
I mean it is too damn hard to understand....
really jailbreaking is so mch easier.....
And ya What is bricking of device... How can i prevent bricking of my sgs2 while rooting...

hiback said:
How can i prevent bricking of my sgs2 while rooting...
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By reading the threads stated above, multiple times, very carefully.
I can jailbreak a phone in my sleep, but this stuff kinda went over my head too. I got the GS2 (my first android also) a couple of months ago and have been reading up on stuff periodically but still don't understand a lot of it.
It's why I'm glad there are so many helpful people who write clear guides on how to do stuff.
I'm sure by the time the GS3 comes out I'll have a bit of a grasp on things!!
But just read read read.
Good luck.

Yea I was scared too. All I can say is, READ THE STEPS ONCE, TWICE, AND AGAIN BEFORE YOU TOUCH YOUR PHONE.

First off. It's not possible to brick it when flashing a kernel(to root). The only way to brick is replacing the boot loader, only official Samsung ROM's do that and it takes less than a second so the chances are slim. I say you start by downloading CF-ROOT for your current firmware. Just be careful and read the instructions. I also recommend to only flash roms from XDA. Also, never use PIT file in ODIN. Welcome to Android, I was new as well 3 months ago and I've been changing kernels and roms like crazy since then
Your current firmware is KF3. I HIGHLY recommend downloading and installing KJ3 from Intratech's thread. It is very fast. Download the one from Frankenstein firmwares. That will not root, you need to flash cf-root or other rooted kernels to do that.
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hiback said:
This Thing is really scary....lolz......
I mean it is too damn hard to understand....
really jailbreaking is so mch easier.....
And ya What is bricking of device... How can i prevent bricking of my sgs2 while rooting...
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dont worry mate i felt the same as well..but as stated above by the rest of the posts read carefully the steps and you should be fine honestly

People talk about jailbreaking iPhones being easy, i could say the same about rooting and flashing ROM's, simple to do once you get the hang of it (and read up)

Just take it slow, pour a coffee and read. I can't stress it enough. It'll make you more comfortable when you actually do it.
Search for the "litening ROM" has great step by step including links to Odin and all that good stuff.
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So Guys I rooted My SGS 2 using the following method..
First of all, make sure you’re having all these tools mentioned below at the time rooting.
Odin Downloader
XWKDD tar file [don’t extract, leave as it is]
SuperOneClick
USB Data Cable
Samsung’s KIES 2.0 or get it from download page
Install Samsung Kies 2.0,if not installed, as you will need the correct USB driver for software’s to communicate. Turn on USB debugging mode in galaxy s2 from Setting>Applications>Development>USB Debugging
1. Boot device into download mode. For getting into download mode on galaxy s2, first turn off the phone and power it on again by pressing Volumedown button, Home button and Power simultaneously. You’ll see a downloading icon once you go into this mode.
2. Start Odin downloader
3. Connect phone to computer via USB.
4. Odin software will notify you when it detects phone and gets connected.
5. In the software, just select “Auto Reboot” and “Reset Time” checkboxes and leave every other options as default.
6. Press PDA icon and select the XWDD tar file you just downloaded [XWKDD_insecure.tar]
7. Press Start and ODIN will flash the kernel and after that, Galaxy S2 will reboot.
8. Don’t remove the phone from USB and let it reboot.
9. After rebooting, start SuperOneClick and press ROOT.
9. Once again reboot the device.
That’s it, Your Samsung Galaxy S2 is now Rooted!!
Now enjoy all the custom roms and overclocking apps for galaxy without any restrictions.
And I used CWM manager to remove the yellow triangle....
Now what else do i need to do...

It_ler said:
There are many different stories to talk about.
As it is very difficult for me to identify your interests and knowledge, I reduce my answer to the IMO most important threads for SGS2:
1. Intratech's Official Firmware thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Please read the first post. There is a detailed description of how to flash a new Firmware/ROM to your phone, and there is a Quick Root Guide too.
This rooting method is very elegant (as you do not get a yellow triangle and the binary counter will not be increased), but it is a little bit "manual".
For a little bit more "automated" rooting, look at the next thread.
Most important is, that you can find the latest, official and stable Firmware version most as non-wipe together with the corresponding stock kernel, which you might need for getting rid of the yellow triangle after flashing a rooted kernel (such as CF-Root or SpeedMod).
I always prefer flashing Frankenstein ROMs from third post, as you can combine them to any other Firmware parts, such as Modem/Phone/Baseband (for inter-connectivity) and CSC (for region and/or carrier dependent customizations) files.
2. Chainfire's CF-Root thread => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399&highlight=CF+Root
Everything you need to root your phone is to flash a rooted kernel to your phone (See description in first post).
And if you want to get rid of the yellow triangle, Chainfire has described it in his second post.
The only thing to do is to find the corresponding kernel for your ROM.
So, it is useful to flash a new ROM first, then flash the corresponding CF-Root kernel and you have root access on your phone.
There are many other goodies which come along with CF-Root kernel, such as ClockWorkMod (CWM) recovery mode (an extended recovery mode including features, such as backup&restore, clear Dalvik cache, flash other zip files from sd card, etc.) and CWM Manager app (to have a very user-friendly app to make use of most new CWM recovery features).
But you can use any other rooted kernel, which is compatible with your ROM, to root your phone.
3. Custom ROMs ... such as CyanogenMod ...
There are many, custom ROMs and kernels optimized for different things, such as better performance (higher scores in benchmarks) or longer battery life.
You have to take your time and search on yourself what you really want most and which custom ROM or kernel you want to try.
Stick to the SGS II Official Android Development forum => http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
... search, read, test !
Just to be on the "safe" side, do a backup before flashing.
If you have CWM recovery mode (or CWM Manager app), just do a complete system / nandroid backup.
So you will be able to restore this backup, if one of the tested custom ROMs or kernels messed up your phone.
Good luck !
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So Guys I rooted My SGS 2 using the following method..
First of all, make sure you’re having all these tools mentioned below at the time rooting.
Odin Downloader
XWKDD tar file [don’t extract, leave as it is]
SuperOneClick
USB Data Cable
Samsung’s KIES 2.0 or get it from download page
Install Samsung Kies 2.0,if not installed, as you will need the correct USB driver for software’s to communicate. Turn on USB debugging mode in galaxy s2 from Setting>Applications>Development>USB Debugging
1. Boot device into download mode. For getting into download mode on galaxy s2, first turn off the phone and power it on again by pressing Volumedown button, Home button and Power simultaneously. You’ll see a downloading icon once you go into this mode.
2. Start Odin downloader
3. Connect phone to computer via USB.
4. Odin software will notify you when it detects phone and gets connected.
5. In the software, just select “Auto Reboot” and “Reset Time” checkboxes and leave every other options as default.
6. Press PDA icon and select the XWDD tar file you just downloaded [XWKDD_insecure.tar]
7. Press Start and ODIN will flash the kernel and after that, Galaxy S2 will reboot.
8. Don’t remove the phone from USB and let it reboot.
9. After rebooting, start SuperOneClick and press ROOT.
9. Once again reboot the device.
That’s it, Your Samsung Galaxy S2 is now Rooted!!
Now enjoy all the custom roms and overclocking apps for galaxy without any restrictions.
And I used CWM manager to remove the yellow triangle....
Now what else do i need to do...

Now what else do i need to do...

hiback said:
Now what else do i need to do...
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For now just enjoy your phone as is probably. Over time you will find out what you really needed root for. For me titanium backup is number 1.
Unlike an iPhone, even without rooting you can do most things you need but yeah some need root.
Personally I would have rooted using cf root/speedmod etc to have cwm recovery for backups.
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Also, to root you could have simply just flashed cf root in Odin as PDA and your done.
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hiback said:
This Thing is really scary....lolz......
I mean it is too damn hard to understand....
really jailbreaking is so mch easier.....
And ya What is bricking of device... How can i prevent bricking of my sgs2 while rooting...
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You shouldnt worry just a new platform. Depending on how patient you have been after updating the new firmware on your iOS toys jailbreaking can be much worse than this. Apple developer fanboys have a tendency to wrap it up with a pretty little gui and a sexy dress but it is really just as many steps. We just like it au naturel over here
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Asgerlund said:
You shouldnt worry just a new platform. Depending on how patient you have been after updating the new firmware on your iOS toys jailbreaking can be much worse than this. Apple developer fanboys have a tendency to wrap it up with a pretty little gui and a sexy dress but it is really just as many steps. We just like it au naturel over here
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Ok so i have installed Cyanogem Mod 7.1.0 ...
But now i want to get back to my stock firmware because i want to use tv out function which is missing from Cyanogen mod 7.1.0 so can u please help me out in getting back to my stock firmware...

Just go to intratech thread that was linked on first page. Then i would recommend to chose the frankenstein version to be able to reset your counter if needed.
Chose the firmware you want (kk5 is pretty good) and flash it with odin.
You can also flash a custom rom that is based on sammy like checkrom. You can do this trough cwm recovery and don't need to use odin for flashing.
If you don't have cwm yet you can install siyah kernel to get it.
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I have an sg2 (sprint) had it flashed to boost, the 3g antenna comes and goes is there a fix for this?...also will I be able to get the facial recognition lock screen on my phone...please let me know thanks
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hiback said:
Ok so i have installed Cyanogem Mod 7.1.0 ...
But now i want to get back to my stock firmware because i want to use tv out function which is missing from Cyanogen mod 7.1.0 so can u please help me out in getting back to my stock firmware...
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There are a lot of ROMs based on the original Galaxy S software, so if you want the added customization, there are many options.
But what you want to do now to return to the original ROM, is to go in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
And find the one that was originally on the phone.
If your phone didn't come with a carrier specific ROM, you need to go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Simply download and flash it as a PDA file using Odin.

Suggestion needed what to do after rooting.

Alright this is not the question you think it is! After rooting from THIS THREAD, I already googled and installed Link2SD, ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Super Manager, BusyBox, Quick Boot and SetCPU. I have tested all of them except Titanium Backup and ROM Manager.
What I am confused is, CF-Root and ClockWorkMod Recovery. My plan is definitely to install Latest CWM v5 so that I can apply CM7 later (at least after more 5 months till I'm working on one development project related to Maps & GPS of Android platform). But as I heard, some themes & customizations needs CF-Root from THIS LINK. Which i find quite confusing how to apply. My questions are:
1) How to apply CF-Root? Please explain steps and Give me Attachments to download. Will my device work same as right now? Because I need my device to run fully so that I can test my written android applications directly via USB Debugging.
1-A) Do I need to unroot before applying CF-Root? If yes, what about the soft links of apps I have made into SD Card through Link2SD?
1-B) Will CF-Root include CWM?
2) Suppose I have CF-Root or CWM installed successfully and what happens to my stock recovery? Is there any way to keep it backed up so that When I need to send it to service station they wouldn't know about it? (By the way, what is the Stock Recovery image's location?)
3) Please also give some suggestions which you think I should keep in mind. I want to keep my ace as close to stock as possible. I also don't know about how to take snapshot of current ROM from Custom Recovery Mode and of Applications from Titanium Backup so that if anything could go wrong I could recover from CWM.
My Device info:
SGA (of course)
Android Version: 2.3.4
Baseband Version: S5830DDKQ5 (STOCK ROM)
Kernel Version: [email protected] #1
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.DDKQ5
Applied Root (for GingerBread) FROM THIS THREAD
XDA RULE!!

Thanks for your suggestion buddy. I know it bricks smartphones.. But also it doesn't work without CWM so I could not use it.
Thanks for quick suggestion.
EDIT:
I highly admire your suggestion and just removed it.

Rushyang said:
Thanks for your suggestion buddy. I know it bricks smartphones.. But also it doesn't work without CWM so I could not use it.
Thanks for quick suggestion.
EDIT:
I highly admire your suggestion and just removed it.
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Your welcome bro , but be carefull ! Watch your steps

Rushyang said:
Alright this is not the question you think it is! After rooting from THIS THREAD, I already googled and installed Link2SD, ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Super Manager, BusyBox, Quick Boot and SetCPU. I have tested all of them except Titanium Backup and ROM Manager.
What I am confused is, CF-Root and ClockWorkMod Recovery. My plan is definitely to install Latest CWM v5 so that I can apply CM7 later (at least after more 5 months till I'm working on one development project related to Maps & GPS of Android platform). But as I heard, some themes & customizations needs CF-Root from THIS LINK. Which i find quite confusing how to apply. My questions are:
1) How to apply CF-Root? Please explain steps and Give me Attachments to download. Will my device work same as right now? Because I need my device to run fully so that I can test my written android applications directly via USB Debugging.
1-A) Do I need to unroot before applying CF-Root? If yes, what about the soft links of apps I have made into SD Card through Link2SD?
1-B) Will CF-Root include CWM?
2) Suppose I have CF-Root or CWM installed successfully and what happens to my stock recovery? Is there any way to keep it backed up so that When I need to send it to service station they wouldn't know about it? (By the way, what is the Stock Recovery image's location?)
3) Please also give some suggestions which you think I should keep in mind. I want to keep my ace as close to stock as possible. I also don't know about how to take snapshot of current ROM from Custom Recovery Mode and of Applications from Titanium Backup so that if anything could go wrong I could recover from CWM.
My Device info:
SGA (of course)
Android Version: 2.3.4
Baseband Version: S5830DDKW5
Kernel Version: [email protected] #1
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.DDKQ5
Applied Root (for GingerBread) FROM THIS THREAD
XDA RULE!!
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Please please please CMIIW.
Now to answer your questions, but firstly:
CF-Root is a kernel, adapted by the awesome ketut.kumajaya. CMW is a custom recovery. I'm saying this because I'm getting the impression that you think CF-Root and CMW are the same thing.
1. Most recent custom ROMs already provide CF-Root, so once you install the ROM, you'll have CF-Root.
1.a. No. At least, I don't think so, because flashing a kernel/ROM doesn't require root access as a dependancy
1.b. Not to my knowledge. I've been using CF-Root for so long, I forgot what the stock kernel feels like.
2. You know what? I actually have no idea. The only way I can think of to restore the stock recovery is by flashing a stock ROM via Odin. If you take it to a service counter, I doubt the counter will notice, but I would be pretty doubtful for the people who actually service your phone.
3. If you want it to be as close as stock ROM, use the stock ROM; it's that simple!
But if you want to use a custom ROM with the closest resemblance to stock ROMs, I would recommend the GingerReal ROM; it's essentially stock ROM, spiced up with performance tweaks.
3.a. You can do an entire system backup (Nandroid backup) with CWM. Just boot into CWM (hold Power+Home button when the phone is off), and choose "backup and restore" > "Backup" and wait. To restore, do the same things, except pick "Restore"
3.b. Doing a Titanium Backul is... complicatedly simple to answer. I'd recommend you to look up their FAQ or something.
Hope that helps!
Sent from my GT-S5830

adeklipse said:
CF-Root is a kernel, adapted by the awesome ketut.kumajaya. CMW is a custom recovery. I'm saying this because I'm getting the impression that you think CF-Root and CMW are the same thing.
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Hello adeklipse,
First of all thanks for replying. And sorry I have messed up to explain my question more clearly... But, I do perfectly understand difference between two of those. CF-Root is custom kernel and CWM is custom recovery mode which provides a lot more facilities that stock recovery wouldn't.
First of all, I am on Stock ROM 2.3.4 DDKQ5 and I want to stay on it without flashing ROMs. Because I need my phone working super fine till I complete my project of android application development.
In what I am confused is, I want to apply some themes/bootanimations which according to what I read, requires CF-Root (which already covers root, Super User, CWM and BusyBox)... I have all of them except CWM in my phone.. What I think of a possibility that I could just apply CF-Root and use themes etc. which automatically will install CWM helpful for me taking snapshots of stock ROM as backup before I change even theme.
My question is: Chainfire's Post says different method to apply CF-Root and Ketut.Kumajaya says different method to apply CF-Root. However, I understand only the method which says go into recovery mode and apply update. But that post fails how CWM 4 automatically booted.
I want to be on safe side asking proper procedure before I proceed.
Also, ChainFire says his custom kernel is tested on "stock Gingerbread XXKPH, XWKPN, and DXKPB" which I assume are stock firmwares of different regions. So another question about compatibility in my region's (India's) stock firmware.
Thanks

U can theme your stock rom without root just copy th systemui apk and frameworkres apk to pc extract them change items and your done
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Rushyang said:
Hello adeklipse,
First of all thanks for replying. And sorry I have messed up to explain my question more clearly... But, I do perfectly understand difference between two of those. CF-Root is custom kernel and CWM is custom recovery mode which provides a lot more facilities that stock recovery wouldn't.
First of all, I am on Stock ROM 2.3.4 DDKQ5 and I want to stay on it without flashing ROMs. Because I need my phone working super fine till I complete my project of android application development.
In what I am confused is, I want to apply some themes/bootanimations which according to what I read, requires CF-Root (which already covers root, Super User, CWM and BusyBox)... I have all of them except CWM in my phone.. What I think of a possibility that I could just apply CF-Root and use themes etc. which automatically will install CWM helpful for me taking snapshots of stock ROM as backup before I change even theme.
My question is: Chainfire's Post says different method to apply CF-Root and Ketut.Kumajaya says different method to apply CF-Root. However, I understand only the method which says go into recovery mode and apply update. But that post fails how CWM 4 automatically booted.
I want to be on safe side asking proper procedure before I proceed.
Also, ChainFire says his custom kernel is tested on "stock Gingerbread XXKPH, XWKPN, and DXKPB" which I assume are stock firmwares of different regions. So another question about compatibility in my region's (India's) stock firmware.
Thanks
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Chainfire's method invloves flashing via Odin if i saw it right.
Ketut's method is of flasihng CF-Root via recovery
I recommend flashing via recovery,its safer,easier and faster.
Don't worry,theres nothing such as Firmware compatibilty,its all about stability and perfomance.I am from India too and is using KPH firmware which is European firmware.I syggest you flash the KPH firmware,its the most widely used firmware.You would not face any problem if you flash another region's firmware.Flashing a different firmware is not easy atleast in my opinion.You just need Odin to do that.I suggest you read hubix's step by step detailed tutorial on that.

Prawesome said:
Chainfire's method invloves flashing via Odin if i saw it right.
Ketut's method is of flasihng CF-Root via recovery
I recommend flashing via recovery,its safer,easier and faster.
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Thanks.. what I don't understand is there are bunch of files under Ketut's attachment. Which ones to apply in recovery mode and in which order??
Please help me out with that.
Also, if there's any bug like Wi-Fi or anything else pesters me, how would I revert it back to original custom ROM?
PS: I have just rooted my phone. CWM is not installed yet. Hope it will be installed by CF-Root directly.

If you have a bug,you could always restore a backup by using CWM.
I suggest you flash CWM before you flash cf-root.
About the files,ask in ketut's thread

Seriously I never tried cf-root. huh prawsome should i try it oR should I stick to oc kernel of ketut?
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plzzzz hit thanks if I helped you in any means .......

xdaboy122 said:
Seriously I never tried cf-root. huh prawsome should i try it oR should I stick to kernel of ketut?
sent from my phone
plzzzz hit thanks if I helped you in any means .......
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lol...ketut cf-root kernel is the only kernel for stock(samsung) ROMs present here.Of course it is made by ketut . All other kernels are for cm7.

I mean oc kernel bro
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plzzzz hit thanks if I helped you in any means .......

I never used oc
I say you stick with oc bro

[Q] Installing a clean Android on Galaxy S

Hello,
I am kind of new around here.
I am trying to learn about Android. I have a Samsung Galaxy S (i9000) with Android 2.3.3.
Base band (?) versión says I9000BGJV1
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-I9000BGJVS-CL307695 [email protected]#2
Compilation number GINGERBREAD.BGJVS
My phone comes from the Telefonica company and I want to install a new clean copy of Android mainly because mine is working way too slow and because it is giving me problems with the modem (it gets stuck when changing from G to 3G or HSPA).
I have downloaded Android 2.3.6 Open Europe from "samfirmware" and want to installed it with the idea of installing afterwards the Semaphore kernel.
I have tried rooting my phone with z4Root but it gave me an error. Later I have found this is not the apropriate way of doing it in Gingerbread. Do I need to be root to install a new copy of Android?
I have some BIG doubts with all this process:
1.- Is the Android version chosen a good one?
2.- In some tutorials that use Odin indicate that I need to be root. Is this correct?
3.- In some tutorials for Odin, they say that the "Repartion" option has to be markede and in some others they do not mark this option. Which one is the correct one?
4.- In case I have to root my phone first, where can I find a tutorial for DUMMIES like me?
Well, I have been trying to find a post that solves all my doubts, but what I have found has only messed me up.
I hope I am posting this in the correct place.
Thanks in advance for your help.

airgus1 said:
Do I need to be root to install a new copy of Android?
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No.
airgus1 said:
1.- Is the Android version chosen a good one?
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Your choice (personal preference)
airgus1 said:
2.- In some tutorials that use Odin indicate that I need to be root. Is this correct?
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It depends on what you are doing. So if whatever the tutorial is for, it is required.
airgus1 said:
3.- In some tutorials for Odin, they say that the "Repartion" option has to be markede and in some others they do not mark this option. Which one is the correct one?
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As I said, it depends on what you are doing (so all of them are correct).
airgus1 said:
4.- In case I have to root my phone first, where can I find a tutorial for DUMMIES like me?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330252.

OK, thank you very much.
Then, what is exactly what I need to do to install a clean Android copy with a Semaphore kernel (for example)?
I understand that I just need to use Odin to install the clean copy and then the same thing with the Semaphore kernel. Do I need to be root to install this kernel?

airgus1 said:
OK, thank you very much.
Then, what is exactly what I need to do to install a clean Android copy with a Semaphore kernel (for example)?
I understand that I just need to use Odin to install the clean copy and then the same thing with the Semaphore kernel. Do I need to be root to install this kernel?
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You need a rooted device to install any custom kernel.

Theonew said:
You need a rooted device to install any custom kernel.
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Then, what is the order?
Should I install the clean copy of Android 2.3.6, then root it and then install the custom kernel? Or should I root it in the first place?
Thanks again.

airgus1 said:
Then, what is the order?
Should I install the clean copy of Android 2.3.6, then root it and then install the custom kernel? Or should I root it in the first place?
Thanks again.
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Install the rom, root it, then install the kernel (make sure it is stated as compatible with that rom).

Thanks a lot. I think I got it

airgus1 said:
Hello,
I am kind of new around here.
I am trying to learn about Android. I have a Samsung Galaxy S (i9000) with Android 2.3.3.
Base band (?) versión says I9000BGJV1
Kernel version: 2.6.35.7-I9000BGJVS-CL307695 [email protected]#2
Compilation number GINGERBREAD.BGJVS
My phone comes from the Telefonica company and I want to install a new clean copy of Android mainly because mine is working way too slow and because it is giving me problems with the modem (it gets stuck when changing from G to 3G or HSPA).
I have downloaded Android 2.3.6 Open Europe from "samfirmware" and want to installed it with the idea of installing afterwards the Semaphore kernel.
I have tried rooting my phone with z4Root but it gave me an error. Later I have found this is not the apropriate way of doing it in Gingerbread. Do I need to be root to install a new copy of Android?
I have some BIG doubts with all this process:
1.- Is the Android version chosen a good one?
2.- In some tutorials that use Odin indicate that I need to be root. Is this correct?
3.- In some tutorials for Odin, they say that the "Repartion" option has to be markede and in some others they do not mark this option. Which one is the correct one?
4.- In case I have to root my phone first, where can I find a tutorial for DUMMIES like me?
Well, I have been trying to find a post that solves all my doubts, but what I have found has only messed me up.
I hope I am posting this in the correct place.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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1.It completely depends on you.The higher the number,the latest the firmware is.
2.In some cases the file you try to flash require root.But in your case of flash a new firmware it doesn't require root.
3.checking repartition is done when your downloaded firmware contains 3 files.i.e.PHONE,PDA and CSC.
When using repartition be careful to use a right pit file which should go into pit in ODIN.In your case the pit file is 512.There are some exceptions where repartition is used for firmware with single file also.If repartion is used wrongly your phone might not boot.
4.Flash a custom kernel like semaphore as you said and install "super user" from market.Now your mobile is rooted.Note:before flashing check whether the kernel is supported for your firmware.
Note:Before flashing make sure you have the correct drivers installed and kill kies with task manager before flashing as kies may interrupt the flashing process.
My opinion is rather than rooting your devices you could flash custom rom which has more benefits than stock rom and has been already rooted.So no hassles.
Finally hit thanks if I helped you.Hope I have not confused you

vijai2011 said:
1.It completely depends on you.The higher the number,the latest the firmware is.
2.In some cases the file you try to flash require root.But in your case of flash a new firmware it doesn't require root.
3.checking repartition is done when your downloaded firmware contains 3 files.i.e.PHONE,PDA and CSC.
When using repartition be careful to use a right pit file which should go into pit in ODIN.In your case the pit file is 512.There are some exceptions where repartition is used for firmware with single file also.If repartion is used wrongly your phone might not boot.
4.Flash a custom kernel like semaphore as you said and install "super user" from market.Now your mobile is rooted.Note:before flashing check whether the kernel is supported for your firmware.
Note:Before flashing make sure you have the correct drivers installed and kill kies with task manager before flashing as kies may interrupt the flashing process.
My opinion is rather than rooting your devices you could flash custom rom which has more benefits than stock rom and has been already rooted.So no hassles.
Finally hit thanks if I helped you.Hope I have not confused you
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You have been really really helpful. I will see if I do not get stuck in the process.

airgus1 said:
You have been really really helpful. I will see if I do not get stuck in the process.
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Glad that I have helped you.

Well, Android 2.3.6 installed, Semaphore 2.3.0bm installed and superuser installed.
Everything working OK.
The only problem is that I used a backup tool for my applications (App Backup & Restore) that promised to backup my app data and when I restored them I found out that it only copied the clean apps without any other settings.
Next time I will use Titanium backup to see if it works better.
Thanks again.

airgus1 said:
Well, Android 2.3.6 installed, Semaphore 2.3.0bm installed and superuser installed.
Everything working OK.
The only problem is that I used a backup tool for my applications (App Backup & Restore) that promised to backup my app data and when I restored them I found out that it only copied the clean apps without any other settings.
Next time I will use Titanium backup to see if it works better.
Thanks again.
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Well I always use titanium backup.But sometimes when restoring apps with data will cause the app to fc.

[Q] Idiot's guide to ROMs, Kernels, CWM, rooting etc

Hi there
Having spent most of yesterday evening trying to work out why my attempt to root my S2 failed whilst getting confused with rooting, roms, kernels etc, I spent the rest of the evening trying to find an idiot's guide to it all, I did not find one.
When I rooted my HTC Hero I find a very helpful idiot's guide that both guided me through the process of rooting, and explained, in layman's terms, how the different bits worked together; I would love to find such a guide for the S2.
I have found some semi-helpful guides to how to root, but these were still written in rather technical language. i.e."install the unsecure kernel then the CWM will update from the download screen; however if you update the ROM an unsecure is not needed because they include a kernel" add to this things like wiping the partition etc it seemed rather confusing, which I am sure it is not, I just need it explaining in layman terms so i can see how the jigsaw fits together.
Having probably been too screened out last night I could well have missed the idiot's guide, so apologies if I did; would you be able to point me in the right direction please?
Thanks
Andy

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Follow the "Instructions - ODIN (long)"

That is helpful, thanks.
Unfortunately it still does not make much sense
"This rooted kernel is for the "rooting beginners" and those who want to keep as close to stock as possible. CF-Root takes the kernel from an original Samsung firmware, and just adds root, busybox, and ClockWorkMod (CWM4/5) recovery
THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch. You DO need to read the instructions. PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE POST!"
I have no idea what this means. What is a kernel, firmware, CWM etc. What is the difference between this and a ROM (which it is not for some reason)?
I know these might be as simple as asking the difference between a letter and a number, but I have yet to come across a clear explanation.

AR2000Dwain said:
That is helpful, thanks.
Unfortunately it still does not make much sense
"This rooted kernel is for the "rooting beginners" and those who want to keep as close to stock as possible. CF-Root takes the kernel from an original Samsung firmware, and just adds root, busybox, and ClockWorkMod (CWM4/5) recovery
THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel. You need to have the relevant firmware already on your device. You do NOT need to wipe anything for this patch. You DO need to read the instructions. PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE POST!"
I have no idea what this means. What is a kernel, firmware, CWM etc. What is the difference between this and a ROM (which it is not for some reason)?
I know these might be as simple as asking the difference between a letter and a number, but I have yet to come across a clear explanation.
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1) what is a kernel?
A)The central module of an operating system. It is the part of the operating system that loads first, and it remains in main memory. Because it stays in memory, it is important for the kernel to be as small as possible while still providing all the essential services required by other parts of the operating system and applications. Typically, the kernel is responsible for memory management, process and task management, and disk management.
The definition of kernel is "the portion of an OS (Operating System) that is responsible for interacting with the hardware. It is the operating system software that runs in kernel mode on the computer's processor and which provides low-level intelligence for the operating system. In other words, the kernel is the "heart" of an operating system.
2) What is a Rom?
A) its a mobile operating system for ur phone, just like windows xp or windows 7 for ur computer.
3) what is CWM?
A) CWM- Clock Work Mod , its a custom recovery where u can choose to install custom roms,kernels,themes etc and also u can wipe data,format system etc
hope the above Info will be of some help 2 u

OK. Best bit of advice I can give you is to read the Stickies. Thoroughly. There are no shortcuts. Taking shortcuts leads to borked phones.
The answers to all your questions are in those threads. Yes, you have to do some reading/learning, but that's the way it is (refer to/read my comment above again re: borked phones).

How to install Xenon ROM - I am new
I am new in installing ROMs and rooting the phone.
I have a lot of info about different ROMs and methods how to install it.
I am interested in installing
[ROM][ICS 4.0.3] Xenon ROM v1.1 [18/6/12][Themed + Touchwiz][CF-Root][XWLPD]
I have rooted my phone using the following method:
[GUIDE] ROOT/UNROOT Stock ICS Firmware without flashing unsecure kernel
As per installation instruction of Xenon ROM, I have to Choose "install zip from sdcard", but instead of it, I have only "install zip from sdcard or external SD"- is it the same?
Please advise, if possible with links what should I do.
Thank you very much for your support and patience.

gersla said:
As per installation instruction of Xenon ROM, I have to Choose "install zip from sdcard", but instead of it, I have only "install zip from sdcard or external SD"- is it the same?
Please advise, if possible with links what should I do.
Thank you very much for your support and patience.
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Yes, select that option. It will take u to the next screen where you have to select the zip file you have copied. Navigate to the path where the zip file is and install.

iamafrk said:
Yes, select that option. It will take u to the next screen where you have to select the zip file you have copied. Navigate to the path where the zip file is and install.
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Just tried, and got a message "E:signature verification failed",
Please advise,

gersla said:
Just tried, and got a message "E:signature verification failed",
Please advise,
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Because of the way you've rooted, you still have stock recovery. To achieve what you want, follow the first four steps of your link first.

oinkylicious said:
Because of the way you've rooted, you still have stock recovery. To achieve what you want, follow the first four steps of your link first.
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If I understand correctly I have to flash Cf-Root or Clockworkmod- what is better and less risky?
I am using the following original ROM - see below.
Model: GT-I9100T
Android Version: 4.0.3
Baseband version: I9100TJILP9
Kernel version: [email protected]#3
Please advise,

To [Q] of AR2000.
Go through STICKY THREAD in the starting to clear most of your ideas.(you will find sticky thread as soon as you open Galaxy S2 General Forum in xda)
Also i found this thread pretty helpful during my root it has step by step explanation in simple language.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1126522
Also you are still in the root phase but when once you done with rooting BEFORE you move on to FLASHING check this tread out for sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502526

gersla said:
If I understand correctly I have to flash Cf-Root or Clockworkmod- what is better and less risky?
I am using the following original ROM - see below.
Model: GT-I9100T
Android Version: 4.0.3
Baseband version: I9100TJILP9
Kernel version: [email protected]#3
Please advise,
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Finally, I did it using:
1. [GUIDE] ROOT/UNROOT Stock ICS Firmware without flashing unsecure kernel
2. I installed ROM Manager from a marked, and CWM using this program.
3. Rebooted in to recovery mode.
4. Done
After it I changed at least 5 ROMs!!! now yellow triangle!
Stayed with ☆☆☆☆☆[ROM-ICS]-[--VK--™]-[-XWLPG-V5.1.2]-[Fast-Stable]-[Jkay Support]-[MultiLanguage]

[Q] what are the stes needed to install a custome rom on a stick unrotted s3?

I have the international S3 & once i had omega rom installed on it. but since the "sudden death" syndrome for the S3 was discovered & my device turned out to be of that series with the potential to sudden death, i unrotted the phone & erased every track i ever install a costume rom.
seems like a long time ago & now i forgot how i started back then, what are the steps to install a costume rom on a "fresh" device? if i remember correctly, all i need to do is to root the phone, then just follow the instructions of the rom i want (omega latest version 4.1.2). is this correct or i missed something?
what's the best way to root a phone today?
also, the sudden brick thread is hundreds of pages & so much information, so i didn't get the basics of it: is there a way to protect my phone from future bricking? will the latest omega (V43.9) cover this protection, or i need more steps/other roms?
thanks .

Best read the stickies in general forum, also the thread for the rom you've chosen.

boomboomer said:
Best read the stickies in general forum, also the thread for the rom you've chosen.
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alright, read a bit & all came back to me :silly:, just made sure first it was updated.
I rooted the phone using CF-root 6.4, made Nandroid & esf back up.
currently downloading omega latest rom & will install shortly.
thanks m8.

Update to latest cwm / twrp / philz recovery. Cf root comes with old cwm unsafe
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4

rootSU said:
Update to latest cwm / twrp / philz recovery. Cf root comes with old cwm unsafe
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4
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I'm using CMW recovery (CMW Managed V3.60). how to update it?

You're using cwm 5.x
Read general > sticky roll-up thread > understanding the basics before you root
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rootSU said:
You're using cwm 5.x
Read general > sticky roll-up thread > understanding the basics before you root
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4
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I spent the last hour+ reading all the topics in the Roll-Up Thread. while it did added some info i wasn't aware of, still it gave no hint on the cmw recovery version update. infact, the root guides there are the same one i used which contain this old cmw version.
so how to i update it to the latest one?

666pluto said:
I spent the last hour+ reading all the topics in the Roll-Up Thread. while it did added some info i wasn't aware of, still it gave no hint on the cmw recovery version update. infact, the root guides there are the same one i used which contain this old cmw version.
so how to i update it to the latest one?
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Recovery are posted in Android Development .
CWM Manager is no longer updated or used .
[i93xx][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953
Is all you need .
But please read and understand the basics first as its noted that you may well have failed to understand .
Backup your EFS now .
jje

666pluto said:
I spent the last hour+ reading all the topics in the Roll-Up Thread. while it did added some info i wasn't aware of, still it gave no hint on the cmw recovery version update. infact, the root guides there are the same one i used which contain this old cmw version.
so how to i update it to the latest one?
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From:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43570596
rootSU said:
Rooting the phone
When you go through the process of rooting the phone, you have to alter the ROM. Although the risks of this are very minimal, we couldn't technically say it was risk free. The process of rooting puts a binary (called "su") in /system/bin (remember we talked about that earlier?). This binary is what allows the user (you) to run things at an elevated privilidge (super user). That in itself would be quite risky, so rooting also gives you one of the superuser apps (there are 2 - SuperSU and SuperUser, both very good). These apps install to /system/app and act as a gateway. Essentially, these apps prompt you when another application wants "root access" so you can allow it or deny it. It's a form of protection against malicious intent.
Root is often enough for most people who simply want to run a few root apps, but many people will need to replace their stock recovery with a custom recovery. This is because you cannot flash custom roms from the stock recovery. Some methods of rooting give you root AND recovery. Some just give you root, but you can flash a recovery yourself using Odin and download mode. Technically you do not need root to flash a recovery and then flash a custom ROM as the rom will include /system/bin/su and /system/app/SuperSU anyway.
Odin is a useful Windows tool. You'll be using this to return your phone back to stock too by flashing a stock "firmware"
Please read Samsung Galaxy S3 General Sticky Roll-Up Thread ***Stickies found here!** to find all the rooting and flashing guides you need for the GT-i9300
If I were asked my opinion on how to root, I would recommend one of the 2 scenarios.
1) You want root only. No custom ROMs, kernels etc. Just root, just to use root apps.
CF Auto Root Via Odin
Why? Tried and tested method, simple to use. No need to choose what exploit you want to use as it's tailored for your device.
What does it do? It gives you a stock recovery (so can't flash things) and roots the Android OS
2) You want to flash custom ROMs / Kernels
If you want root on your existing Android ROM, you can do 1) first. Then flash a recovery of your choice (CWM, Philz, TWRP) via Odin.
However, if you immediately plan on flashing a ROM, there's no need to root your existing ROM. Simply skip straight to installing a recovery. Backup then flash what you like.
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JJEgan said:
Recovery are posted in Android Development .
CWM Manager is no longer updated or used .
[i93xx][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953
Is all you need .
But please read and understand the basics first as its noted that you may well have failed to understand .
Backup your EFS now .
jje
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thank you. it's now updated to PhilZ Touch 5 V6.0.3.3 .
did all the backups i need already (esf, nandroid...) so now I'm heading for the omega installation.

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