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Hey,
I am about to get a new Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 64gb tomorrow and I'm already checking how to root the tablet and get all the Gapps up and running.
Unfortunately there are still a few things which are a little bit confusing for me at the moment:
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
I'm pretty sure I will come up with more questions tomorrow, but that's for now!
Thanks for your help ...
f2 said:
Hey,
I am about to get a new Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 64gb tomorrow and I'm already checking how to root the tablet and get all the Gapps up and running.
Unfortunately there are still a few things which are a little bit confusing for me at the moment:
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
I'm pretty sure I will come up with more questions tomorrow, but that's for now!
Thanks for your help ...
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Welcome. Chances r u will receive the,or close to, the latest ota. That being said there currently is no root.. An earlier version of fire was rootable but quickly fixed by Amazon. We r all in same boat. For now spend the next couple days getting caught up on this forum while playing withbur new toy.
f2 said:
Hey,
1. Which is the best way to make sure that the Kindle Fire does not install an OTA update on its own? I mean it can not be the solution to keep the tablet in airplane mode all the time, that is ridiculous! I read about several ways to block OTA updates, installing a firewall, changing a value in the build.prop or renaming a certain file in den /system/ folder. Which way has to be proven to be the best way?
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Once you complete the process to make dual-system (both Gapps and Amazon) the HDXposed module will block updates.
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2. After gaining root I will install Safestrap and flash the official Amazon Rom to a slot. Is there a size for the Rom partition which is recommended? I have seen Safestrap now supports up to 16gb.
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Personally, 6GB or 8GB. I currently use 4GB and it got a LITTLE crampy when I downloaded a couple videos from Coursera.
3. After booting the Amazon Rom from a Safestrap slot, can you do an OTA update or will this affect the whole system?
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OTA will affect the whole system. Don't do it.
4. Can someone please point me to the correct and latest version Gapps for the 8.9" model (Apollo)?
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Same place. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
kschang said:
Same place. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
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Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?
Thanks again for your help ...
f2 said:
Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?
Thanks again for your help ...
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It seems to be known the Xposed mod doesn't block updates. If you want the tab for the specs but also as close as possible to a stock android experience. I would recommend how I did it with SS on both stock and rom slot, airplane moding the stock slot and never going back there unless necessary. Also try to rename the files and if possible try to mod the build if you think fit.
Just my 0.02.
f2 said:
Thanks for your help, @kschang! Unfortunately I could not find a link to Gapps in this thread. Would you mind pointing me to another direction?.
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I was pointing you to dual-use setup. If you don't want Amazon, it'd be this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585690
Thanks for all the help! After some back and forth I now have the most things working and it's a great device, but I still have one questions. Does Google+ work for anyone of you? As soon as I open the Google+ app it crashes immediately and goes back to the launcher. Did anyone have similar experience and knows how to fix that?
Thanks!
f2 said:
Thanks for all the help! After some back and forth I now have the most things working and it's a great device, but I still have one questions. Does Google+ work for anyone of you? As soon as I open the Google+ app it crashes immediately and goes back to the launcher. Did anyone have similar experience and knows how to fix that?
Thanks!
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What ROM are you running?
icedtrip said:
What ROM are you running?
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Amazon Stock rom 14.3.1.0
Sometimes it does that. Clear cache, restart device, try again.
kschang said:
Sometimes it does that. Clear cache, restart device, try again.
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So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
f2 said:
So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
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I can tell you that 4.3.1.63038142 works fine for me, on current HDX 7, older ROM, HDXposed and gapps and all the rest.
f2 said:
So you can confirm that Google+ works for you?
I asked this question on another board and everyone said it would not work for them ...
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Same as kschang with same version of Google+ (latest version). HDX 7 with 13.3.1.0 firmware. It's run fine with Cpasjuste's ROMs (both the Thor Gapps and the AOSP ROMs) as well as stock ROM with Cpastjuste's Gapps zip installer.
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I've also got HDX 8.9 14.3.1.0 Apollo. How did you get supersu installed?
I've got the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip
The author recommends installing through Google Play.
But if I turn off airplane mode I'll get updated, so I can't do that.
Other option is to install supersu through CWM, TWRP or MobilOdin.
But they also require Google Play to install.
I'm on linux. What should I do?
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aero1379 said:
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I've also got HDX 8.9 14.3.1.0 Apollo. How did you get supersu installed?
I've got the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip
The author recommends installing through Google Play.
But if I turn off airplane mode I'll get updated, so I can't do that.
Other option is to install supersu through CWM, TWRP or MobilOdin.
But they also require Google Play to install.
I'm on linux. What should I do?
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Development sec..use plainly marked utility for everything
I mean Christ the best I can find is this: http://blog.julianxhokaxhiu.com/entry/how-to-install-supersu-on-hamlet-zelig-pad-210g
But he's got a custom install script. There's no install.sh file in the zip I got.
Some old threads look promising (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223) but will BurritoRoot or whatever worked on Kindle Fire 2 years ago work for Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 Apollo???
If you got all this working, it would be great if you could just unpack all the instructions you went through. No links and trying to be timeless lillypads for the future, just a detailed case study.
really...
aero1379 said:
I mean Christ the best I can find is this: http://blog.julianxhokaxhiu.com/entry/how-to-install-supersu-on-hamlet-zelig-pad-210g
But he's got a custom install script. There's no install.sh file in the zip I got.
Some old threads look promising (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223) but will BurritoRoot or whatever worked on Kindle Fire 2 years ago work for Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 Apollo???
If you got all this working, it would be great if you could just unpack all the instructions you went through. No links and trying to be timeless lillypads for the future, just a detailed case study.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683
jimyv said:
Development sec..use plainly marked utility for everything
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I don't understand this at all. You were typing a sentence there, and then you started typing another one?
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aero1379 said:
I don't understand this at all. You were typing a sentence there, and then you started typing another
I was trying to point you to the development section. sec.... Being an abbreviation of section and etc.... Fourth topic down is a toolkit contains everything that you have just asked for. Hope http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665683 makes easier fot you. Thanksyou for visiting us here at xda have a GREAT day. ; )
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There's only a Windows solution, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.
I got VBox to see the Kindle and just used the KFHDX ToolKit v0.91 toolkit.
I haven't bought it yet, but just want to know that if I buy a brand hew Thor from amazon, is the most current version able to be rooted or reverted and rooted?
Couldn't find a for sure answer and idk what version they are currently shipping with.
Thanks
Not yet. Stay tuned.
Tomen8r said:
Not yet. Stay tuned.
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alright thanks
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DSMRyan said:
Couldn't find a for sure answer and idk what version they are currently shipping with.
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3.2.1 for the 32gb model bought in Germany. I ordered a gift version to possibly prevent personalization and updates.
Tomen8r said:
Not yet. Stay tuned.
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I'm very curious about this as well. Picked up a HDX and it's running Fire OS 4.5.1. I tried one approach I found online but it was from Jan so it may not apply to Fire OS 4.5.1.
I have heard people ask Amazon to roll back their HDX to a V3.x version. Do you think this would allow me to root the HDX 7" 3rd gen? My goal is to install CyanogenMod or some other rom on my HDX.
I just bought 2x THOR devices from AMAZON (16Gb and 64GB) both had an very old build from last year. perfectly rootable.
What build version do you have? Mine has 4.5.1 which apparently is not rootable. What root method did you use (towelroot?)?
Turkishflavor said:
I just bought 2x THOR devices from AMAZON (16Gb and 64GB) both had an very old build from last year. perfectly rootable.
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Just tried to get Amazon to roll Fire OS back to an older version and they told me 4.5.1 can not be rolled back. Guess we're stuck waiting for a new root method that works for this version :/
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Not yet. Stay tuned.
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I am a Linux user and have a rooted Nexus 5 but this damned thing has me confused for some reason.
Just so I am clear. There is no way to sideload apk's without being rooted. Is that correct? All I really want to do is install Bubble so that I can connect to my media server. DLNA clients in the app store either don't work or won't play FLAC. Ugh!
eyeconic said:
I am a Linux user and have a rooted Nexus 5 but this damned thing has me confused for some reason.
Just so I am clear. There is no way to sideload apk's without being rooted. Is that correct? All I really want to do is install Bubble so that I can connect to my media server. DLNA clients in the app store either don't work or won't play FLAC. Ugh!
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You can still sideload APKs through ADB or a file manager. You just need to enable apps from unknown sources in the settings.
EncryptedCurse said:
You can still sideload APKs through ADB or a file manager. You just need to enable apps from unknown sources in the settings.
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Maybe it's me (I said I was confused). How can I side load when the file system is mounted read only? Only root can remount. /data/app and /system/app are both locked. (Fire OS 4.5.2).
@eyeconic
In short:
You need no Root for installing a transfered .apk
Maybe you think, that you have to copy (adb push?) an installed App from Device1 to Device2?
You are transfering an .apk(!) to your KF. Not to System! Just copy to SD/Internal. Use a Filemanager, click the transfered .apk and Installer is starting doing his work, e.g. creating /data/app/FILE_DIRECTORY and much more. Do you need Root for this? No, just tick the right Option like said here before
EncryptedCurse said:
You can still sideload APKs through ADB or a file manager. You just need to enable apps from unknown sources in the settings.
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I'm an idiot. Something about the Kindle caused temporary imbecility. Thanks and I am fully recovered.
Just as an FYI, I just bought a 64gb 4G LTE Fire HDX 7 from Amazon on 12/8/14 and it came with version 13.3.2.1. It has a build date of Feb 6, 2014. I've kept it in airplane mode so far until I can catch up reading and learn how to root it and see what direction I want to go with it.
I'm curious to see how the Fire OS works, but I don't want to risk it updating on me in the background.
BlueLghtning said:
Just as an FYI, I just bought a 64gb 4G LTE Fire HDX 7 from Amazon on 12/8/14 and it came with version 13.3.2.1. It has a build date of Feb 6, 2014. I've kept it in airplane mode so far until I can catch up reading and learn how to root it and see what direction I want to go with it.
I'm curious to see how the Fire OS works, but I don't want to risk it updating on me in the background.
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You can easily root and disable over-the-air updates with the HDX Toolkit.
EncryptedCurse said:
You can easily root and disable over-the-air updates with the HDX Toolkit.
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Yep, I read all that last night and seem to be setup!
@BlueLghtning I have a 7" HDX that is running Fire OS 4.5.2. Know of any technique to root this one? Towelroot didnt work nor did one other method I found online. I'm new to the HDX and wonder why my FireOS version (4.5.x) is so different from many users here (13.X)? Did they change their version numbers?
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You can easily root and disable over-the-air updates with the HDX Toolkit.
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So I have a 7" HDX with the latest version of Fire OS (Unrootable, so far).
Is there any hope of root for this in the near future or is my best bet just to rollback?
Maybe some dev progress threads would be great.
gorei23 said:
So I have a 7" HDX with the latest version of Fire OS (Unrootable, so far).
Is there any hope of root for this in the near future or is my best bet just to rollback?
Maybe some dev progress threads would be great.
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Did it have 4.5.x on it when you got it or did you have it and use it before the update? If you got it with it or it immediately updated to it they won't roll it back.
nymica said:
Did it have 4.5.x on it when you got it or did you have it and use it before the update? If you got it with it or it immediately updated to it they won't roll it back.
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I updated as soon as I got it
Is it possible to rollback to 3.X? Or rollback to any 4.X version that can be rooted? Because Fire OS 4.5.2 THOR can't be rooted.
You could've already gotten your answer if you bothered to use the search bar...
EncryptedCurse said:
You could've already gotten your answer if you bothered to use the search bar...
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I know but I am a bad actor so I need some text on what to say.
Bump. Can anyone help me on what to say? I bought my kindle fire Fire OS 4.11 i think but updated it to 4.5.2.
MinerBoy004 said:
Bump. Can anyone help me on what to say? I bought my kindle fire Fire OS 4.11 i think but updated it to 4.5.2.
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Been looking all day, and all i could find is how to restore fire HD 7.
I have a rooted Fire HD 6 with CM11 flashed with TWRP as a bootloader, i want to revert back to stock os due to the limitations CM11 holds on vieo playback and camera usability.
Thanks for any help, its really appreciated
Piggybacking on this thread, I would also like to restore my Fire HD6 to the stock Fire OS for similar reasons.
SpooneyH20 said:
Been looking all day, and all i could find is how to restore fire HD 7.
I have a rooted Fire HD 6 with CM11 flashed with TWRP as a bootloader, i want to revert back to stock os due to the limitations CM11 holds on vieo playback and camera usability.
Thanks for any help, its really appreciated
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HyperNyan said:
Piggybacking on this thread, I would also like to restore my Fire HD6 to the stock Fire OS for similar reasons.
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Well, you get plenty of options ! With working TWRP, you can either flash a 4.5.x version, or the Lollipop 5.1.x, and root them when you do it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-upgrade-to-lollipop-root-gapps-t3163950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/upgrade-to-4-5-5-root-t3174449