I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
With the new version, I can't put Google Now on the main lockscreen. It is placed on the lockscreen to the right of the initial lock screen, but I have to swipe to see that, and I may as well just unlock the device, where the Google Now widget is on my home screen. With 4.3 I had that Google Now widget on the main lock screen.
For those who may not have used it, one can swipe left on the lockscreen and view widgets. More screens can be added, although the list of widgets available for the lockscreen is somewhat limited.
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I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
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HD 720/1080p MP4 videos (downloaded HD music videos) stutter occasionally and feel like they maybe slightly out of audio sync. Contrast seems lower and brightness seems to high, faces seem more washed out and seems not as high resolution as previous 4.3 and 4.1.2. I see more blocks and pixelation that I remember.
Beats Audio does not sound as good, less bass and lower highs make it sound noticeably worse especially on headphones.
Weird wallpaper issue when using my own wallpaper. After certain length of time in apps like chrome or newsstand, after exiting, the wallpaper, if not on BlinkFeed, is not extended all the way past the dock. There appears a shadow affect or crop issue were the scrolls bar is. If you scroll to right and back it fixes.
Poor battery life, but this could be an issue with certain apps like Google Plus (it just used my entire 500mb in a couple hours with no auto backup or photo backup).
A little sluggish in certain system menus that you wouldnt think it would be, cant remember which ones, could be while moving folders around.
When WiFi optimization is on, it frequently does not want to reconnect well after leaving a wifi area and returning. It shows connected but speed is very slow.
The HTC Messaging app contact photo issue from 4.3 has been fixed
Personally I think they restricted the memory requirement too much for phones with more than 1gb ram.
I would downgrade back to 4.3 but dont know how
Ive gone from 4.1.2 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 within only a few days so I was kinda familiar with how things worked on the previous versions before I updated to 4.4.2, plus I have OCD)
It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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thevuman said:
It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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I hadn't realized Flash didn't work. I don't really use it. It is odd, since the flash player is still installed on my device. Stupid Google...
Got Flash working
I got flash working on my kitkat by using the following instructions:
http://www.cultofandroid.com/49840/install-flash-player-android-4-4-kitkat/
I realized today that the zoom bar for the camera is gone, so now a pinch is required.
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Two issues I'm having:
- When I connect to my external speaker via bluetooth, my wifi speed drops tremendously. Didn't happen before.
- My screen keeps randomly turning on. It's very annoying. Can't find a reason or a setting that could be causing it.
Also (this one isn't really a "bug"), when I plug in my phone, the screen turns on. I remember previous HTC phones used to do this, but they stopped it with the One, which I liked. But unfortunately it's back now
My picture quality is way down with this update. On 4.3 I had the stock camera app and the Nexus 5 camera app on it and they took great photos and corrected the faint purple hue I'd get sometimes. On 4.4 there is tons of noise and color hues even in bright lit rooms! So I'm back on 4.3 for now and the camera is great again.
Battery life is worse for me
After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Thanks. I had already done both of those.
Keep pushing the suggestions. I am trying to see if I can correct without a factory reset.
Well, I seem to have fixed my battery drain issues. I did a factory reset and started from scratch. *gah*
I did do an adb backup before, but it wouldn't restore. So, the upside is I can setup everything from scratch and add apps, etc. one at a time.
no more option to set lockscreen wallpaper......sux
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Those of us who are too scared or just lacking in skills to upgrade ROMs and have the OTA ICS, probably should have had it for a few days now. I was wondering what people were making of it, good bad?
I would say that for me by far the best thing is the Launcher (I think I have described it correctly) Replacing the excessviely large "phone" button and the very rarely used after you have got your phone set up "personalise" button with 4 customisable ones is fantastic (I know that other launchers offer this but I tried them and always prefered to stay with sense)
I was insensed when I used the Quick Settings and coudln't see settings there, I even went as far as to place a shortcut on my deesktop, only to see that they have hidden it as the small grey and white symbol, lol!
I would say that it seems to be somehow even worse on battery useage, although not by much and I haven't propperly obseved it yet.
Apart from that I haven't really noticed any major changes aside from teh removal of the pwer saver settings, I have installed an app that allows access but can't see how to change when it is activated.
Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
Crackly sound in 'temple run' and other games/apps in the official OTA ?
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Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
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But that thread is nearly entirely about installing without losing root etc, I was wondering more about peoples experiences of actaully using ICS.
Ics sucks.big time.i really regret updating.
Cons
I cant use screen filter app to turn off the soft keys.the irritatin soft keys wont turn off any more.the resultant light leakage at the base just makes me angry.
3d video playback isnt as smooth as it used to be.it stutters very minutely.took the fun out of watchin 3d movies on the phone.
Previously i was able to play 1080p mkv via dice player without any hiccup.now there are hiccups.
The stock video player is crappy as usual.
No burst mode or takin stills while recording in camera.
Asphalt 6 doesnt work on 3d any more.
Srs doesnt work on music player.
So no real improvements for me here except for the changed settings menu and a bit smoother transaction animations.its like htc was purposefully makin it worse to make people change the phone.
I wish i didnt update.i wish i could downgrade :'(
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By softkeys I assume you mean the capacitive buttons? If so try Keyboard Backlight Controller. I didn't give it the rather misleading name. I think you can get it from Play.
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Is this update the same base as the custom ones that have been circling around? Ive been using a custom one for a while, and while it is good, the battery life is making me consider getting a galaxy s3.
Well for me , the ICS is great. I love the new camera app. I have a lot more colors in the pictures. And i love this. The old GB made photos almost black and white even with the saturation on full.
The widgets and the new sense 3.6 i love. Is more customizable. And it really works a lot more smoother the sense 3.
I found till now some bugs. But i don't know where to report them to htc. Can't find the "contact dev team " on they site.... anyway.
Bugs so far:
Widget Power Dashboard , sometimes the animations stay over and i have a wifi icon with 7 bars over it , not 3.
The streaming player is really a disaster. 80% of sites that used to use stream player , now says " Can't load video " Only youtube works. Not even ES Video Player works, the only app that i can use now is Sopcast.
The videos playing on the default browser , are really horrible. In FULL SCREEN MODE in 90% of the cases i can't use any of the players buttons. You just push them , and doesn't work. You have to exit the full screen , push what you need and then go back into full screen.
Sometimes if you try to seek the video a bit further it just ramains Black , the player. The video plays in background , you can hear it , but no image. Only solution to get it back , is to refresh the page. And restart the video. ( strange is that on youtube videos , all this works perfectly , but on any other websites or flash player based videos doesn't)
No more power management
If phone is unde 5% battery and you put it on charge. The screen will keep turning of after 30 seconds till the phone passes 10-15% battery , and then get's back to 1 minute timeout screen.
Edit :
Onavo Extended doesn't work.
Onavo says " Are you running an official ROM of ICS for your device?
In any case, It seems that your device uses a ROM that is missing important networking support that Android 4.0 APIs and Onavo Extend rely on. Android OS upgrade should fix the problem. Also, if you manually installed the ROM yourself, trying a different ROM should fix the problem.
We are compiling a list of supported ROMs and plan to publish it in the near future. We will keep you posted.
We truly apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will be able to enjoy Onavo Extend benefits soon enough. "
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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I agree with you. And some apps just work great on ics.
I also love that music player , that they put a volume button . And that if you press the volume key , you can then slide with your finder the volume from the screen. Also , the mails are more responsive. Usually they had a delay of about 15-60 seconds. Now sometimes are instant. So an improvement .
And i love the new Folders. Are sooo usefull now.
The task manager from the ics is also great. ( pressed home key )
Oh , and the youtube new app , is great. It even has a Live category where you can watch Live shows. Great.
The new gallery is a bit improved and more hansom .
dnslammers said:
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
unstoppable_punk_brainiac said:
The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
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thanks dude, shutter speed really sucks... custom roms have not make much improvements on this too... i agree with you on gb battery life... main reason i root my phone....
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I've updated today, and now the 3D doesn't seem to be working - this happened once before and a reboot resolved it, but that has not worked this time round.
Any pointers? Basically, the 3D "eyes" are generating a cross-eyed image on screen, playback has the right image showing from the left & vice versa, camera use just generates blurry 2D images.
other than that, the ICS update seems very good - start up is a lot quicker, and all the Google apps seem to have been aesthetically improved. "More Tron like" as somebody said to me.
I got the ICS+Sense 3.6 update and I'm enjoying it so far. It's all stock since I bought (no custom ROM or root, as I haven't saw the necessity of this).
So much sleeker and faster than 3.0!
Had a problem with the spell correction but after playing with the settings it normalized. Apart from the default SMS "Messages" app, where it'll underline in red all the words that aren't English [my mother language is Brazilian Portuguese, I use the phone in English and the keyboard in Portuguese] - but I'm not sure if this problem is new with this update lol.
I like how I can disable stock apps now, I could disable all the bloatware and take away many apps I don't use from the app drawer.
(Immediately disabled Google+, take that Google! haha)
Also, it solved a bug where the phone would think it was with the headphones plugged-in which made it stop doing any sounds through its speaker: if you stopped the music using the physical play/pause button in the headphones and unplug them while the device in sleep mode (screen turned off) that would happen and there would be no ringtone or alarm sounds until I played a media sound manually for it to recognize the headphones aren't there anymore. :good:
The Music app got a queue feature where we can select which songs to play next, like a playlist you build in real time. That's everything I was looking for in the music player!!
The new HTC Notes app is very good and comparable to the one I'm using, Handrite. I'll be testing the new one, the difference being Handrite has dedicated buttons to quickly copy, paste, undo, redo and more text/trace/paper formatting settings..., and more widget sizes to choose. While HTC Notes let you to sync with Evernote and record sound into your notes, I don't really dig into this idea so it's a matter of personal needs.
What I don't like about it:
HTC:
- There's no direct Wi-fi toggle in the notifications bar anymore, I don't understand why HTC would remove it.
- The album art in the Music app appears smaller, I wish there was some sort of configuration...
ICS:
- The setting for entirely disabling background data doesn't exist anymore. :/
- There's no way to set ringtone and notification sound volume separately.
These are my impressions so far.
I might send some e-mails to HTC regarding these issues. It seems they value user feedback as they have a wonderful customer support service.
I've seen these throughout the forums and we are lacking one of our own!
This is how (i hope) you can get better battery life and what i use personally to get my phone to last through the day
1. If your not using it then turn it off! GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi
-Minus the screen these are the biggest battery killers and if you don't need them then turn it off
2.Auto brightness is not your friend. Use a set brightness to your liking below 50%
-I see people claiming it helps and truth is it doesn't, It enables an added sensor to monitor the amount of light outside and guess what? That kills your battery too. You're better off using a widget or some other method to change your brightness on the fly to avoid this
3.Data and Background syncing.
-If you can afford to turn your Data connection off when you're not using it i suggest getting into the habit! This can drastically improve your battery life. For those who can't i suggest adjusting your sync intervals so they aren't checking as often
4.Put Your Phone Down!
-Yes we can all agree your phone can be a fun toy to play with but if you need it to last then put it down! Stop checking it every five minutes just to look at the screen! you have notifications for a reason and your background isn't going look better if you keep looking at it
5. Live Wallpapers
-Live wallpapers are fun to show off especially to Iphone owners but it comes at a price, Show them what it can do then go back to your boring wallpaper to save battery
6.Rogue apps
-There are many apps in the market to help you find these silent battery killers. Find one and uninstall them.
Apps like Facebook also kill your battery horribly, Use the web page instead if you don't need to know what everyone is posting at every second
7.Turn off animations/Haptic feedback
-I personally don't do this but it has been proven that these features do kill your battery
8. Task killers
-This hasn't been a problem more recently but if this does apply, uninstall the dang thing and stop killing every app that pops up! If the app keeps running in the background then just uninstall it
9. Find the rom that suits your needs
-To each their own, find the rom that better suits your daily life. I agree Its awesome to run the cutting edge software on our phones but if you need your phone for daily use then maybe stock/debloated is what you need
10.Extended battery/carry a charger
-If the stock battery just doesn't cut it then it's probably time to invent in an extended battery, and if you're like me and that still doesn't cut it then carry a charger with you to give you and extra boost. When your on the side of the road with a dead phone because you had to run AOSP and it killed your battery you will wish you had this
Summary: In the end It's just fancy phone with an HD screen so it was inevitably a battery killer from the start so good luck
If you have anything to add (Apps or suggestions to help) then don't be afraid to speak up this is a community effort
Using few or no widgets helps conserve battery life
AshtonTS said:
Using few or no widgets helps conserve battery life
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but i like widgeypoos
You may be correct that it isn't very effective at saving battery, but I think that's only because it never dims far enough, compared to other devices I have where auto-brightness seems far more effective.
Also, I'm almost positive that turning off auto-brightness does not disable the light sensor. You can turn off auto-brightness and use a sensor probing app to verify that it is still indeed functioning.
Pretty much everything else makes sense to me. I have tons of widgets but most of them are simply information and don't really need to poll anything or use many resources most of the time.
Strangely enough, I've been really noticing my battery die quickly every once in awhile recently, and when I check it seems that Google Maps has been going crazy in the background and won't close.. very strange. A reboot usually solves the problem for a few days til it happens again.
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Lmao widgeypoos I have my homescreen chock full of them but I've heard they're bad and come to think of it when I switched from sense to senseless my battery life got better because I had only 5 homescreens with less widgets (sense has better widgets than AOSP)
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You may be correct that it isn't very effective at saving battery, but I think that's only because it never dims far enough, compared to other devices I have where auto-brightness seems far more effective.
Also, I'm almost positive that turning off auto-brightness does not disable the light sensor. You can turn off auto-brightness and use a sensor probing app to verify that it is still indeed functioning.
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Because the light sensor is needed for the capacitive buttons
AshtonTS said:
Lmao widgeypoos I have my homescreen chock full of them but I've heard they're bad and come to think of it when I switched from sense to senseless my battery life got better because I had only 5 homescreens with less widgets (sense has better widgets than AOSP)
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haha on the nexus, i've got 7 pages...1=calender agenda, 2=calender monthly, 3=picture frame, 4=HD widgets clock, 5=poweramp widget, 6=evernote, 7=people widget
god damn, i have a widget on every page hahah
jayochs said:
haha on the nexus, i've got 7 pages...1=calender agenda, 2=calender monthly, 3=picture frame, 4=HD widgets clock, 5=poweramp widget, 6=evernote, 7=people widget
god damn, i have a widget on every page hahah
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My 5 pages have (left to right): 1- news/weather, Apollo (cm music), google ears/sound search, 2- power control, gmail, 3(main screen)- desk clock 4-calander agenda, google music, 5 browser bookmarks, google voice
I have waaaay to many widgets lol
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You may be correct that it isn't very effective at saving battery, but I think that's only because it never dims far enough, compared to other devices I have where auto-brightness seems far more effective.
Also, I'm almost positive that turning off auto-brightness does not disable the light sensor. You can turn off auto-brightness and use a sensor probing app to verify that it is still indeed functioning.
Pretty much everything else makes sense to me. I have tons of widgets but most of them are simply information and don't really need to poll anything or use many resources most of the time.
Strangely enough, I've been really noticing my battery die quickly every once in awhile recently, and when I check it seems that Google Maps has been going crazy in the background and won't close.. very strange. A reboot usually solves the problem for a few days til it happens again.
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I used to think that auto-brightness was killing my battery, but from doing some informal tests I actually found very little difference in battery life using 25-50% brightness versus auto-brightness. I'd be interested if other people have different experiences.
Actually I've noticed that Google Maps also keeps waking up my phone and using the GPS recently. What ROM are you on? I'm on Viper 1.0.3.
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Also, I'm almost positive that turning off auto-brightness does not disable the light sensor. You can turn off auto-brightness and use a sensor probing app to verify that it is still indeed functioning.
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I think the tweaks on Newt's Rom has an option to change the scaling of the auto-brightness, meaning that you move the whole scale down so that it is dimmer at given light levels than stock. I'm not sure if it ever goes to full value though and that would disappoint me on sunny days.
In regards to the Facebook app, you can disable notifications and auto polling...
Figures, we get aosp and I have to change carriers
I like my new phone tho
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I am noticing some problems with my s3 after the official jellybean update. It feels like it has been rushed to the phone. For example it doesn't have the quick reply feature in the notification window. It does for missed calls but not for messages. This is one the most anticipated features for me. Also when watching you tube and you don't want the screen to rotate it now does. I want to lock the rotation so I only get the small video at the top when my phone is on its side. It worked before jellybean update. Also auto brightness has changed. When auto brightness is selected you can manually turn it up with the slider in the notification window and it disables auto brightness and changes to what you set on the slider. Now on jellybean you have to uncheck the auto brightness box and then slide. Little features like this are starting to make me feel like it has been a massive rush to get jellybean on to the s3 which is ironic seen as though it took long enough. I have the international i9300 model s3. Is anybody else noticing the problems I have stated? Does anybody know a way of changing/getting the features? Thanks.
They were definitely to busy with the Note II, I mean come on at least give their flag ship the same/some of the features that a bigger version of the S3 has... That sexy multitasking should have been on the initial jelly bean update.
94% to 77 % in 7 hours.
WIFI : On , PSM off
Most power and wakelocks were by Kernal.
Normal?
I'm on LJ4, stock kernel?
I've not got a clue what you're on about?
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I know what you mean. The note got great features like the multi window. Apparently that's coming before the new year but I highly doubt that. Are you noticing the same problems I am? Another problem I found is when screen goes off after inactivity you used to be able to press the home button a moment after it goes off and it would turn the screen back on leaving you at the page you was. Now the home button takes you back to the home when you press it. It's annoying you have to go back to the app.
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eggman89 said:
94% to 77 % in 7 hours.
WIFI : On , PSM off
Most power and wakelocks were by Kernal.
Normal?
I'm on LJ4, stock kernel?
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Me too, my problem is the battery with jb lj4
I think there is a few little niggles but overal its pretty much the same.
The autobrightness don't disable automatically now when you adjust the slider as you can now actually adjust the autobrightness brightness, Not sure why though.
Google Now - leaving it active at the mo, but not really found any usefullness from it as yet. The Time home feature is ok, would be good if it actually showed the route I take home - Via motorway, rather than the route through city center which i don't take!!
The new notifcation bar - its ok, nothing major. Expect a bit of all these features will improve over time as well once apps get proper updates. Some work but don't have full functionally - Songpop has no notifications now for example.
Battery Life - I did find that my normal phone use on ISC which included about 50/60 mins worth of calls etc wi-fi left on all the time but only actually connected to wi-fi at home (just 2G & 3G at work) i would have about 55/60% battery life left by the time i got home from work, on Jelly Bean - with the same useage i had about 40/45% left. I am now back to the same as before on ISC, but i didn't disable google now or anything just turned Wi-Fi off when left home and turn it back on when home - results was 55/60% battery remaining a as on ISC. Seems that the Wi-Fi drains when not connected - either it keeps on searching which it might not of done on ISC or its the Google Now doing something (Does say improve location by keeping wifi on - does this even if not connected!!) - Least this way i can still use google now and see how it improves its tags overtime.
I am now using a App called WiFi Timer to automatically switch Wifi on and off when i leave/get home.
Love that it now has voice downloaded so you can text etc with no data connection - find its more accurate now as well!
Never had the small vids on Youtube when rotated phone so not sure about that. Take it disabling autorotate doesn't do this?
Good and Bad
My experience is as follows:
Good:
Sheer speed, no perceivable lag.
A problem I had with only half the SMS notification tone being played (before it cut off) has gone away.
Bad:
Battery drain terrible even when idle. Turning off Google Now, Location Services and Samsung Push Notification fixed this.
When I activate Smart Stay, the screen does not want to turn off 80% of the time - even when I'm not looking at it.
When I wake the phone using the home key, it exits the app I was in. Previously, this would wake the device and return you to the current app (after unlocking). I have a partial work around using the PreHome app; this way the app is still visible underneath the PreHome dialogue box and I just need to press Back to get to my app again.
Widgets, seem to refresh less regularly, particularly Messaging and Gmail widgets which seem to hardly even refresh when I want them too.
Of No Consequence:
The red charging led is a little dimmer when charging.
Overall:
The speed benefits outweigh the niggles - just!
Dan
ohyesman said:
I am now using a App called WiFi Timer to automatically switch Wifi on and off when i leave/get home.
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No need for an App. You can do it inbuilt.
Go to Wifi, Menu button and Advanced
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No need for an App. You can do it inbuilt.
Go to Wifi, Menu button and Advanced
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Yep i know, but this app is far better as it lets you setup different profiles for mornings, evenings & weekends etc which the inbuilt one don't. :good:
root?
i may just root my phone as i really am not happy with this jellybean update, nothing has really improved for me, if i root it and install a rom like codename all the features like quick reply would be there right?
Got the OTA update to L on my 6833. Yes, it has made the already smooth animation slightly smoother but otherwise what is there? The power widgets are gone, I had to install third party Power Toggles app. The new notification swipe down is annoying, having to swipe up when waking device is annoying. The status bar colors are inconsistent. The menus look childish looking.
Without being dramatic, did Sony take all this time to make sure it ran without crashing? Because I notice very few changes (not even improvements, just any changes) on the UI. I must be missing something.
more than that:
can only set one volume at a time.
either portrait or auto, you can't force landscape like in KK.
animations are fluid, but the functionality isn't. My opinion is, if the device has extra power that it can use to make things animate, slide and fade all over the place, better to put that extra power into making the device perform faster. Anyone here who prefers prettier animations instead of faster functionality?
low resolution screenshots in the recents screen. wat. Seriously... wat? Also, the way they've made it it is faster to just go to the apps screen and open whatever app i want, instead of waiting for the recents screen to load and then scroll awkwardly through the programs... Also, you can only see three recent apps. On a device with 6" of screen. three. think about it.
Also... what is the point of having screenshots, anyway? icons are faster, easier to distinguish, take fewer resources and smaller area on screen.
I agree fully on the recent apps screenshots. The blurry images are embarrassing and don't at all go with the clean/sharp theme of everything else. I don't understand why they've made it low res, can't be for performance given no restraint or need anywhere else. Bizarre!
There is over-prettying. For example, the stupid screen swipe up to unlock (after hitting the power button already), the sparkles are just so unnecessary, it is one of the few places the phone actually seems to struggle pulling off the effect.
At the moment my biggest problem is with Yahoo Mail. The account does not seem to auto-sync despite all the settings being correct and even when I force the sync manually the notifications don't show. I've uninstalled and reinstalled, most likely Yahoo to blame, their webmail is always breaking but never ever had a single issue before with KK. This is problematic because it is effectively no longer push email, I have to manually check 50 times a day.
My biggest annoyance is the inability to reclaim the Google search bar area in the Home Screen. I don't want that search button, why can't I use that space, and why a stupid dot to represent the pages of the Homescreen when I only have 1.
Is there actually anything different/new on the backend? My issues aren't severe enough to go back to KK (yet) but seeing what I see, I would have no problem whatsoever buying an Xperia Sony will not upgrade beyond KK.
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Got the OTA update to L on my 6833. Yes, it has made the already smooth animation slightly smoother but otherwise what is there? The power widgets are gone, I had to install third party Power Toggles app. The new notification swipe down is annoying, having to swipe up when waking device is annoying. The status bar colors are inconsistent. The menus look childish looking.
Without being dramatic, did Sony take all this time to make sure it ran without crashing? Because I notice very few changes (not even improvements, just any changes) on the UI. I must be missing something.
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I agree with you about small changes. I even face some strange problems in my WiFi. the mac address haven't change, but I can't connect to my work WiFi protected network. Sometimes it connects in limited status. One of my friends which updated his Ultra has this problem too.I could connect it to my laptop adhoc wifi netwrok, but for one time. it even can't connect to that network anymore. I rolled back to my stock 14.4.A.0.133 backup. and a'm waiting to fixes from sony.
Agree with you guys. And that stock greenish blueish greyish statusbar color pisses me off! Anybody knows how to change that color?
Quite pathetic attempt by a mod to bury this thread by moving it to this section. If negative feedback on L bothers you so much, delete the thread and censor it outright. Sad day for xda.
Hey everyone,
This will be a Thread for collecting all the kinds of bugs and other issues you might have encountered.
I talked to the german FB group and talked about them sending them a collection of bugs etc from the community. They gave me an email address (from the communication team) where i can send it to once everything is done.
They will then proceed to send the information to the people developing for axon 7 (A2017G in this case). Of course it's not guaranteed that they will definitely fix all the issues. But it's worth a shot imo.
So at first it's important that bugs have the most importance in this thread since those have to be fixed in order to get an enjoyable oreo experience.
BUT you can also post any features you want to have back (examples are daydream, screen color calibration)
To get things finally started, here are the issues that i gathered so far from this thread:
-SD card mounting issues (SD card doesn't stay mounted after reboot)
-Increased battery drain (mixed opinion, some say it's worse, some say it's the same as nougat)
-Preinstalled apps which are uninstallable (like Accuweather, WPS Office) reinstall themselves after reboot
-Events set in Google calendar don't show a notification
-Bluetooth audio developer options (LDAC, 32bit, 96khz, etc) do not stick
-screencast not working on some miracast devices
-Panorama has lower vertical resolution (approximately 1900px while Nougat had 2800px)
-Charging sound file is missing (now it uses error sound file when connecting/disconnecting USB which sounds really annoying)
Missing Features that you wish to come back or added:
-Screen Color Calibration
-Daydream (which might come back since how they worded it to be temporarily disabled)
-Camera2 api not yet fully implemented
-Vulkan API (was present in Nougat, now removed in Oreo for unknown reason)
-Screen lock app (shortcut in quick settings to lock the device)
-Option to remove Carrier name in status bar
-Dark Mode option (preferably true black background for the while UI like quicksettings menu, settings menu etc for max SOT.)
-More sorting options for stock music player (by title number etc instead of by alphabetical order)
-ZTE Toolbox app
I'm sure there is more. But this is what i have found so far as of now. If there is any more issues you encountered, please post them so i can add them to the list.
Also if i missed any additional info for the issues above, please feel free to tell me.
- Dark mode option
- further dimming option (lowest brightness still too bright)
- screen off toggle/widget
1. Screen cast still won't work well, I never get it connected to miracast since nougat and they didnt fix it on oreo, all my other devices work so good with the same miracast.
2. Battery drain faster than nougat or I think this even worse than oreo beta build B01.
Feature:
- The alphabetical order on music folder for stock music is still annoying. No one hopes listening music from A to Z based on title.
One more:
I don't know if it's just me, but I have a bug where the download manager won't download anything for a long time despite having stable internet connection. This affects Play Store app downloads and downloads other than Chrome (since Chrome has its own download manager it seems). Basically, if I want to quickly download an app or update them, the initialisation starts but it keeps waiting for stuff to download. It won't abort with an error, it just sticks to the spinning circle. In the notification bar you won't see the download arrow animation, which should be there actually. But if I lay down my phone for a while and then pick it up, it may start downloading normally. It's very annoying, you can imagine m
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One more:
I don't know if it's just me, but I have a bug where the download manager won't download anything for a long time despite having stable internet connection. This affects Play Store app downloads and downloads other than Chrome (since Chrome has its own download manager it seems). Basically, if I want to quickly download an app or update them, the initialisation starts but it keeps waiting for stuff to download. It won't abort with an error, it just sticks to the spinning circle. In the notification bar you won't see the download arrow animation, which should be there actually. But if I lay down my phone for a while and then pick it up, it may start downloading normally. It's very annoying, you can imagine m
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I know what you mean. But it's not a bug from oreo. I had this too on nougat. Sometimes it still happens. But not as often as it used to be. Dunno what fixes it sadly, but thats probably an issue of play services messing up something since the axon 7 isn't alone. Many other devices have this problem as well sometimes. It comes and goes randomly.
And as you said, chrome and other apps with their own download manager don't seem to have these issues. Again, it's probably play services doing something wrong. Not sure tho, just a guess as play services had many problems in their history
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- Dark mode option
- further dimming option (lowest brightness still too bright)
- screen off toggle/widget
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What do you mean with dark mode? Like amoled substratum themes? Or like night light?
Poor wifi and 4g reception. This has been my main problem with this rom.
GodOfPsychos said:
What do you mean with dark mode? Like amoled substratum themes? Or like night light?
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Quick settings, status bar and system settings are all unbearably white. Due to Google's safety measures you can't even use a third party filter anymore.
On Nougat you could change the quick settings to gray at least and use a third party filter for all the rest. On Oreo, no chance at all. What a bad user experience!
So why even bother with a system update, if it doesn't let you adjust the display brightness to your liking anymore?! And I haven't even mentioned the usefulness of an all white UI on an AMOLED screen (Battery!?).
Panorama has lower vertical resolution.
Nougat approx 2800px
Oreo approx 1900px
Signal issues
Hd calls work with incoming but call does not connect for outgoing
Band switching issue band keeps switching thats the main reason for battery drain on 4g
My network is Jio 4g in India
It works in band 3 5 and 40
3 and 5 bands work together but they wont work well with 40 that is they keep switching from one to other with internet connecting and disconnecting
So i switched off band 40 using network signal guru app with magisk root permissions and everything works fine except slow internet speed and persistent hd call issue
Can anyone make solution for band issue
If there is a possiblity to reduce the heat generated during simple tasks.
I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain ? vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain ? vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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You had most of these because i used the same thread your post was in as well about the freezing raw capture with stock cam.
But you are the first and only one who had this happen with the camera. So far nobody else reported having the same issue.
alexvv said:
I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain [emoji39] vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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I never ever wanted Stock Android. Stock is the least customizable iteration of Android. So who could want this kind of user experience? People who think Google knows what's best for you? Ridiculous!
Any one tried downgrading to Nougat?
Tried official update.zip. Downgrade FAILS!
This package is for "ailsa_ii" devices; this is a ""
(My device only received official updates, never a custom ROM or root)
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Any one tried downgrading to Nougat?
Tried official update.zip. Downgrade FAILS!
This package is for "ailsa_ii" devices; this is a ""
(My device only received official updates, never a custom ROM or root)
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You can't downgrade with the official update.zip
Also this is the wrong thread to post this. This thread is for bugs found in oreo.
I appear to be having poor quality sound when playing audio though the main speakers. There's a hissing sound.
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You can't downgrade with the official update.zip
Also this is the wrong thread to post this. This thread is for bugs found in oreo.
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I disagree on both of your statements. here is why:
1. It is possible to downgrade, but not with all official update.zip that exist (I succeeded in the meantime!)
2. It is a bug in the Oreo rom that the device type is not set, preventing majority of old update.zip to run since they check the device type
I am missing the stock Nougat 'lock screen' option in the Quick options menu. I am using an app to soft lock the screen at the moment which works but am not sure at all why they removed it in first place.
I am also missing the Messaging and Phone customization options available in Nougat, including the different message bubbles types and the background change settings. It is now simply white and blue and you couldn't change it.
I have had a hard time fixing the Notification problem Oreo brought to many apps, including system, resulting in oversleeping for alarm clock app not working at all. This may not be a particular problem of ZTE directly since apparently it is an Oreo issue but I still don't understand why so many notifications have been forced to the swipe-down menu without default option to disable them. Like "this and this process running in the background" and using default notification tone for every single thing happening to the phone. Adjusting settings in Android System notification modes solved some problems but delayed or not showed at all certain notifications like SMS messages or alarm clock not working - even though these were specifically made to pop and make sound.
Battery life for me varies. It may be up to 10-12 hours if I don't do almost anything and just keep it in stand-by to 3-4-5 hours if I use the screen, some browsing and listening to music. Screen-on-Time in general is up to 2-3 hours in best case scenario. Also sometimes for no apparent reason I see the battery percentage going down like every few seconds by 1 percent and with no use of anything special, just the screen. Overall I could rate it (a little) worse than Nougat considering that I've now gone through all Power settings and disabling anything I don't need per app.
I can only congratulate ZTE for making Dolby Atmos now working on both earphones and front speakers at all times, including with custom player equalizer running at the same time as Dolby Atmos. It never worked for me and was also accompanied with various bugs on all 6, 6.1, 7 and 7.1.
The "choose what your SD card should do" on every restart is pretty bad and I strongly prefer the Nougat behavior when it simply worked. Maybe adding a Setting - "do not ask again" or an option in the System Settings where you can change the status of the SD card on the go would work better than unmounting it every time. This causes many issues with file managers, players and different other apps with files located on the SD card. I hope they re-work it.
Finally, I noticed that Ultra Power Saver works in a much worse way than it did on Nougat. It kind of goes into another OS mode upon return from which it does not start apps that are set to auto-start upon reboot. The Nougat style of simply black-and-whit-ening the screen and turning off any data was so much better and didn't return the phone in a half-functioning state when connected to the charger. Also at 15% as I adjusted it, the middle power saving function (Power Saver or so) does not seem to be at least visibly working so the battery keeps draining as fast as if it was not on.
So, in short - dark(er) Quick Menu, getting back Nougat default app customization options, fixing the SD card message upon every reboot, not forcing TouchPal to be default keyboard or in use even if another keyboard is chosen, or disabling both, and possibly working on better battery life would be all amazing. I still think ZTE did a great job with 8.0 and am happy they finally released it to us.
The phone was frozen and restarted several times.
After that, fingerprint doesn't work and I had to reconfigure fingerprint record.