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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
High quadrant scores. Do you see the first thing most people mention when they install the lag fix?
"My quadrant score went from 200 to 2000!!!!!!!!" as if it was an indicator of actual performance.
No good, controlled tests have been conducted.
I don't use it. The one time I did, when it was included in the kernel with BLN, I had horrible battery life. Most people use it to get higher scores. The N1 would run circles around the Vibrant in terms of scores but when in real world testing, both devices are just as fast.
It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
I run a lagfix and it has improved my speed and response.
Without making me lose any battery
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It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
The lag fix circumvents RFS in many areas.
Galaxy S phones have terrible I/O performance. Notably Database Read/Writes and apps that work generally hit the storage often.
Run Touchdown on a Galaxy S phone without a lag fix and you'll see how sluggish that application runs due to RFS. The workaround is to move the database to the external SD Card (which results in frequent corruptions) or install a lag fix.
It also causes the phone to take an inordinate amount of time to boot up (Media Scanning... etc.) and lag randomly when applications sync and access the storage to write data. It lags when Installing and Uninstalling applications from the Android market as well.
If you think a Lag Fix is only to boost Quadrant Scores (those scores are bunk, anyways), then perhaps you're using a different phone in a Vibrant casing.
There are several applications littered with "laggy on my Galaxy S" in the market.
Also, there is a bug in the Samsung Android 2.1 kernel that breaks some applications. That's why there are apps popping up saying you need 2.2 on your Galaxy S phone to run them (Skype, Yahoo Messenger, etc.).
My Vibrant, both before and after JI6, was laggy to the point of not being usable - until I applied RyanZA's OCLF (I removed OCLF and tried voodoo but soft-bricked the phone in the process). I've never run the Quadrant score analysis - all I care about is usability of the phone, and after the OCLF was applied my phone became usable.
I tried Axura 2.0.x with no lag fixes and, while my phone was generally faster than JI6 pre-lag fix, it still suffered from lag in many user interactions (opening apps, launching email, reading individual emails, using gallery, etc.) I went back to stock + JI6 via ODIN, reapplied OCLF, and was happy again.
Are there different hardware revisions of the Vibrant that might account for the differences in user experience? I've seen many posts from users who claim they never had any lag or GPS problems, and many more (like me) who have been plagued with them.
Most of those users are fanboys and wouldn't admit it even if they fot one of those 5+ second lockups while making their post.
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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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Once you go Lag Fix you never go back! Lol
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It has made some apps actually usable.
Before the lag fix, the facebook app was basically unusable for me. Any action would have a 5-10 second pause before seeing a result.
Swipe to scroll, wait, click a picture, wait.
I think the facebook app was the worse for me because I did manual updates so every time I launched the app, it would be d/ling and writing while I was trying to scroll around and read stuff.
But in general, it has made my phone usable. Before I did the lag fix, I basically stopped using my phone because it got so annoying having to wait.
I've never run quadrant on my phone actually. I don't even really use root for anything. I did it primarily for the lag fix and the I changed my battery bar so that it's accurate. Everything else I'm happy with.
So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off. But on the other hand, I text and browse constantly. And switch back and forth between appear running simultaneously. And when im not working...
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
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It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
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Its not mental its on every phone. Unless lagfixed/hacked u have the same fileaystem as us.
The home switchers and unofficial roms are morw mental due to placebo effect - some lag fixes aren't even that good, but people claim tenfold improvements due to placebo effect...
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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The phone T the store wasn't syncing a google and corp accoumt, plus facebook, plus twitter, and other apps. It simply wadn't prone to lagging, brcausr no user in their righy mind sets their **** up on a display unit just to test it.
Btw, "why didn't you test it for 10 min before you bought it" is getting old.
Their were no other good phones in t-mo when many of us broughy yhis. Couldn't just swap for a g2, mt4g, or hd7.
Many people thought an update would fix it, like the gps.
We were wrong, obviously.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
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If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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BlackElvis79 said:
Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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If you have stock rom then oclf is best and I'm on Axura so my choice is voodoo but I've read it causes too many problems.
People should know what their doing before messing with stuff like that..
They have a forum here to ask all these questions but they do it themselves then when their phones screwed they ask questions...
N8ter said:
If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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I've done it on pretty much every phone I've owned, but like I said its not really nessicary, if anything its a slight stutter, but either way its not different than other android phones I've used (even my vibrant using a lag fix). its really just my preference to sync manually.
Demandarin posted this earlier in answer to a person having WiFi (edit: actually shutdown) issues.
Did you by any chance happen to just recently install Google chrome beta browser? If so, clear its app cache, data, and uninstall it. Seems this app might be the culprit. Others posted same issue as you. Plus they had chrome bets. Then they uninstalled it. And now their prime working fine. There's posts in other threads on it.
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I tried it, removed Chrome app cache, data, and then uninstalled Chrome.
Tried a few SpeedTests outside at WiFi marginal location about 45 feet away from router. (I get almost 11 Mbps inside, 30 feet or so from router.)
With Chrome installed, about 2 Mbps.
Uninstalled Chrome, about 4 Mbps.
How about you?
EDIT: SORRY, I messed up, although the post was by Demandarin, the OP (curly9) of the thread "most recent wifi bluetooth update" actually had a problem about Prime shutting off. Sorry for the confusion.
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Demandarin posted this earlier in answer to a person having WiFi issues.
I tried it, removed Chrome app cache, data, and then uninstalled Chrome.
Tried a few SpeedTests outside at WiFi marginal location about 45 feet away from router. (I get almost 11 Mbps inside, 30 feet or so from router.)
With Chrome installed, about 2 Mbps.
Uninstalled Chrome, about 4 Mbps.
How about you?
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I'll bet my life that Chrome has no impact on WiFi. Using the Speedtest app is really not the best way to test speeds. Since you're going outside of your home network, there are MANY outside variables that will impact your results, and you are not going to get consistent results.
If you really want to get a true measure of your WiFi, the best thing to do is to download a large file from a PC on your home network to your tablet and watch the speed.
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If you really want to get a true measure of your WiFi, the best thing to do is to download a large file from a PC on your home network to your tablet and watch the speed.
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Sounds good. Could you outline the steps to "download" a large file from PC to tablet. What software to use, etc., I would guess on tablet to do this?
Thanks for your help.
Ride525 said:
Sounds good. Could you outline the steps to "download" a large file from PC to tablet. What software to use, etc., I would guess on tablet to do this?
Thanks for your help.
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You have a few options. I have an FTP server set up on my home PC with free software called "Filezilla." I then use an app called "ANDftp" to connect to it from my tablet and download files. I used a 1 GB movie file and watched the speed.
Another way you can go is to download a free app called "ES Explorer." It gives you a few options to connect to PCs on your network and download files. One of them, SAMBA, is based on basic windows file sharing, so if you enable windows file sharing, you should be able to see your shared folders using ES File Explorer. I'm not sure if that app shows you download speed like ANDftp does though.
I posted that to a wifi issue..lol. maybe i did. I saw people with drain issues or screen wake issues say had problems when they installed chrome. Then they uninstalled chrome n issues went away.rebooting also. While it is very weird n far fetched, too much coincidence with that app just being installed n new issues people were having. And this was even before the latest update came out. I saw someone, I think NYJedi, first post on wondering if chrome was causing issues. If I have the person incorrect, my bust. But it was someone. Then I just followed the trend of people uninstalling it.
Why is Chrome being blamed for everything from Wifi issues, lockups etc?? Too many newbs making threads on this site now, you hear one person state a stupid opinion and then we get hundreds of post claiming the same stupid thing. Chrome is not a Kernel people, its an app, it will not nterfere with yur wifi, its not the cause of lockups(this was happening BEFORE chrome was released) etc. However, I heard that touching the Prime's screen often will cause a buildup of fingerprints..Oh nooo, Asus has really screwed up NOW!!
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I posted that to a wifi issue..lol. maybe i did. I saw people with drain issues or screen wake issues say had problems when they installed chrome. Then they uninstalled chrome n issues went away.rebooting also. While it is very weird n far fetched, too much coincidence with that app just being installed n new issues people were having. And this was even before the latest update came out. I saw someone, I think NYJedi, first post on wondering if chrome was causing issues. If I have the person incorrect, my bust. But it was someone. Then I just followed the trend of people uninstalling it.
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I am pretty surprised if you did start this rumor, you should know better
All it takes is one post like that to create a mass hysteria and another 30 threads on the subject. I would personally send you a check for $10.00 if it is confirmed that Chrome has caused these issues. I'm really starting to believe that we are having a surge in first-time android users..while some complaints are justified, others are just mind-boggling!
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I posted that to a wifi issue..lol. maybe i did. I saw people with drain issues or screen wake issues say had problems when they installed chrome. Then they uninstalled chrome n issues went away.rebooting also. While it is very weird n far fetched, too much coincidence with that app just being installed n new issues people were having. And this was even before the latest update came out. I saw someone, I think NYJedi, first post on wondering if chrome was causing issues. If I have the person incorrect, my bust. But it was someone. Then I just followed the trend of people uninstalling it.
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I did make a post about Chrome in relation to an overnight lockup, but not in relation to WiFi. In my situation, I had had ZERO lockups since installing ICS the first day it was released. I then installed Chrome the day it was released, and that night, I had my first ever lockup, where I woke up and my Prime would not turn on (had to use the reset pinhole). This happened the night before installing the .13 update, so the only thing that changed for me between installing ICS and getting my first and only lockup was the installation of Chrome. Could this have been a coincidence? Sure, but I'm not sure that it was, and I thought it was worth mentioning.
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Why is Chrome being blamed for everything from Wifi issues, lockups etc?? Too many newbs making threads on this site now, you hear one person state a stupid opinion and then we get hundreds of post claiming the same stupid thing. Chrome is not a Kernel people, its an app, it will not nterfere with yur wifi, its not the cause of lockups(this was happening BEFORE chrome was released) etc. However, I heard that touching the Prime's screen often will cause a buildup of fingerprints..Oh nooo, Asus has really screwed up NOW!!
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I am pretty surprised if you did start this rumor, you should know better
All it takes is one post like that to create a mass hysteria and another 30 threads on the subject. I would personally send you a check for $10.00 if it is confirmed that Chrome has caused these issues. I'm really starting to believe that we are having a surge in first-time android users..while some complaints are justified, others are just mind-boggling!
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An app can cause lockups when being used and if it has background services those can cause wakelocks that will destroy battery life. However I totally agree with you about the wifi issue...lol
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Why is Chrome being blamed for everything from Wifi issues, lockups etc?? Too many newbs making threads on this site now, you hear one person state a stupid opinion and then we get hundreds of post claiming the same stupid thing. Chrome is not a Kernel people, its an app, it will not nterfere with yur wifi, its not the cause of lockups(this was happening BEFORE chrome was released) etc. However, I heard that touching the Prime's screen often will cause a buildup of fingerprints..Oh nooo, Asus has really screwed up NOW!!
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I am pretty surprised if you did start this rumor, you should know better
All it takes is one post like that to create a mass hysteria and another 30 threads on the subject. I would personally send you a check for $10.00 if it is confirmed that Chrome has caused these issues. I'm really starting to believe that we are having a surge in first-time android users..while some complaints are justified, others are just mind-boggling!
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I didn't start the rumor..lmao I've seen several others post on it before I even said anything about it. The numbers were adding up and too much coincidence with installing app then issues. Then uninstalling then issues go away. I just followed the trend of uninstalling it. Plus a badly coded app or whatever can cause device to act funny so that's nothing new.
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I did make a post about Chrome in relation to an overnight lockup, but not in relation to WiFi. In my situation, I had had ZERO lockups since installing ICS the first day it was released. I then installed Chrome the day it was released, and that night, I had my first ever lockup, where I woke up and my Prime would not turn on (had to use the reset pinhole). This happened the night before installing the .13 update, so the only thing that changed for me between installing ICS and getting my first and only lockup was the installation of Chrome. Could this have been a coincidence? Sure, but I'm not sure that it was, and I thought it was worth mentioning.
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Yeah, this was what I saw you say but I've seen several others post similar situations. I wasn't trying to say you started it. I just noticed your post first. Then seen several other people post same thing basically.
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An app can cause lockups when being used and if it has background services those can cause wakelocks that will destroy battery life. However I totally agree with you about the wifi issue...lol
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lol! Yes I know, but I was stating that the lockup issue started for most people before Chrome was released. I don't think it would only cause lockup issues for some if the app was not working correctly with ICS
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I didn't start the rumor..lmao I've seen several others post on it before I even said anything about it. The numbers were adding up and too much coincidence with installing app then issues. Then uninstalling then issues go away. I just followed the trend of uninstalling it. Plus a badly coded app or whatever can cause device to act funny so that's nothing new.
Yeah, this was what I saw you say but I've seen several others post similar situations. I wasn't trying to say you started it. I just noticed your post first. Then seen several other people post same thing basically.
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I think it was just people feeling like "well if he says the cause is *X* than the cause must be *X* because I have that app too. That's like me saying that the google market is causing wifi issues, and everyone agreeing because the have the market installed also Please don's scare our new members, we must teach them the ways of the force
But you can't deny the facts that some uninstalled Chrome and the issues they had after installing Chrome went away. Hmm, sound familiar with some OS...Windows?
Sorry, I confused things a bit...
SORRY, I messed up, although the post was by Demandarin, the OP (curly9) of the thread "most recent wifi bluetooth update" actually had a problem about Prime shutting off. Sorry for the confusion.
Another person also posted (photogf4) also posted positive results.
Well..
I have no problems with Chrome on .11 nor do I have any problems with Chrome on my Galaxy Nexus. I've used it as the main browser since it was released on both devices.
Chrome does impact your battery life a little if you use sync, since it has background services related to synchronizing the browser, but the impact is minimal based on my experience so far. When I had WiFi on and the screen off my battery went down 3% in four hours. When I had WiFi off and screen off, the drain was just 1% in four hours. No crashes, no sleep of death issues.
If Chrome causes issues in .13 then it is because of something ASUS did and not something Google has done with Chrome Beta, because it's totally fine for me on .11.
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SORRY, I messed up, although the post was by Demandarin, the OP (curly9) of the thread "most recent wifi bluetooth update" actually had a problem about Prime shutting off. Sorry for the confusion.
Another person also posted (photogf4) also posted positive results.
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too late now...lmao. people think I started that as a fix for wifi..lmfao
j/k. its all good
My phone gets delivered tomorrow... I'm fearing a lag issue that's been reported on the other carriers.. Anyone notice anything?
EVOme said:
My phone gets delivered tomorrow... I'm fearing a lag issue that's been reported on the other carriers.. Anyone notice anything?
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Absolutely no lag on mine, a welcome change coming from a Galaxy Nexus.
i havent had any lag on mine yet.
Very nice!! I'm on truck for delivery!!!!!!!!
No lag here either - MAJOR change from the Droid Charge.
Wondering the same thing. Does it feel faster than the S3, for anyone who's owned that too?
Yes. No lag and much faster. My s3 on quadrant benchmark scored around 5200. My s4 is over 11000. I love it.
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I'm surprised how smooth it is. I did go through and disable like 20-30+ bloat apps, but it was running quite smooth even before that.
What is more worrysome to me is the overheating. Anyone play with their phone enough to be able to comment on that??
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Wondering the same thing. Does it feel faster than the S3, for anyone who's owned that too?
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yes. faster and smoother.
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What is more worrysome to me is the overheating. Anyone play with their phone enough to be able to comment on that??
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my unit has heated up quite a bit, but not nearly as bad or as fast as my htc one.
The home button delay is a major flaw. On my Note 2 I removed S-Voice for double tap and had Google Now open on the double tap.....I tried that on my S4 and it would lag when I push it once. Once I made it so the home button has no action other than going home....all lag was gone. I just added a Google now icon to screen to use it.
butter so far over here...coming from the Bolt, wow this is awesome
No lag on mine. .... Battery not getting hot either. Been on it since I got it at 1100...... Just finished rooting it. All seems well so far!!!
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Every demo AT&T and Sprint S4 I have seen have tons of lag so not sure how thats not happening on the Verizon version. I would be eliminating apps and using Nova launcher which I guess will make it smooth. Still on the fence about getting it though. Especially since no 32 GB.
No lag whatsoever. It's pure liquid for me so far. I have the VZW S4. I felt my phone get a little warm but nothing close to being what i'd call hot. I was streaming video and music off youtube for about an hour straight today and mine didn't get hot (maybe my case hid the heat some?) I have the Spigen neo hybrid case
I too was worried about a few things, namely, the headphone crackling, overheating and the wifi connection issues tied to the D-link routers. Specifically the DIR-655 and DIR-855 (i have the 655) and everything is rock solid.
The G2 has a fantastic battery already, why not make it even better?
I like to see how far I can push this phone's battery. In no way does that mean that you need too as well, but for those of you that do want a few more hours or another day, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
After I've spent time learning the quirks of this phone, and most of its respective ROMs, I've come up with quite a few tricks for improving battery life, some specific to this phone, some just in android general. I now get average 3-4 days battery life, when I use the phone quite often during the day all day long.
It is your personal preference on how much of android's background services that you use compared to apps. This is only suggestions for the users that want to improve battery life.
Heres some of the simplest questions you can ask yourself when you go through the settings center:
Do I really need this feature enabled? Do I use it often? Even if I do occasionaly use it, is it that much of a pain to just turn on when I need it?
Do I really need GPS on 24/7? How often do I really use GPS?
How many apps do I need running in the background?
Do I need to keep autobright on, or keep the screen super bright?
That being said, here are some of the simple things that Ive done.
I keep everything off unless I use it every day.
I keep GPS off 24/7, I never use it.
Out of habit, I always close all apps.
I keep autobright off and keep the screen on 14 brightness. Unless Im right outside in the sun its easy to see, and if I am I can just turn it up with the quick setting.
Some of the more advanced stuff I do, that completely varies on your ROM:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
Currently Im using CleanROM, I switch between it and Cyanogen about once a week, just cant make up my mind on stability v. features, but on CleanROM, some of the stuff I have currently froze
Nearly anything involving Verizon, the carrier APKs are massive bloatware.
I disabled a lot of google services, some people may rely on these, personally I dont, the biggest two google apps I use are chrome and Gmail.
If your on a stock based ROM, disable the LG services you dont use. Textlink wastes a huge amount of power, as does QSlide.
(This applies alot more to carrier based roms than it does Cyanogen/AOSP, but even they do have a few unneccesary servcices.) Be careful when you are touching system services, if you dont know what one does, a google on its function is helpful.
Use a different launcher. Excluding the stock google launcher, most factory launchers are very inefficient, LG Home is no exception. Personally, I use SmartLauncher, a very light and very nice looking launcher with a fantastic layout. Nova I know is very light on resources aswell.
The more widgets you have cluttering your screen, the more power they will waste.
I can personally confirm myself that Kitkat based roms have incredible battery life after they settle in for a few days, the kernel level improvements brought with KitKat are very noticable. Currently Gummy Rom and three CM11 builds exist for KitKat, why not give them a try?
If you have unusually high battery usage, check your wakelocks, and see what exactly is using all the power, and you can disable/turn it off and remove that battery drain.
On a final note, comeon guys turn your phones off at night. I have yet to hear a good reason to leave it running over night, all it does is waste power and most commonly let the notification light run for 8 hours. If you use your phone as a alarm, you could turn on airplain mode overnight.
These are just some of the things that I do, if you have any more suggestions, feel free to post them or message me, I'll be glad to add them to the list.
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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shahkam said:
I do not own this device but whats the point of turning all the feature of your phone off just to get a couple more hours out of it just use it like you should and stop worrying too much...
My 2 cents.
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What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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polaric said:
What I do is abit extreme, but I enjoy seeing how far I can push it. A few people complained of low battery and wondered what I did. The guide is simply suggestions for improving. Most of a phones 'features' are rarely used.
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U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
G1_enthusiast said:
U buy a smartphone to see how long it last? man you got too much money...
I use everything from 4G to syncing...
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I only buy a new phone when Verizon let's me, I just enjoy seeing how far I can push each phone's battery. Some people go crazy on theming, I go crazy on battery life. A few people wondered what I did, so I just made this.
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I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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quachhanthanh said:
I think u shouldn't use smartphone. With my G2 I turn on everything from 3g, WiFi, GPS, push and sync everything from mail, Facebook, viber,...
Plz use smartphone, don't let smartphone use u.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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So u should make a thread to bring out list junk apps of android. That is more helpful.
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polaric said:
I'll say this again, not everyone is aware of some of the lower level services that android runs that are completely pointless and cause a lot of wakelocks. This drills some's battery life down to 8hrs or less, which they then complain about. You would be surprised at the amount of stuff I have enabled.
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GPS is not pointless, it uses for Facebook, navigation, weather update, yelp and a lot of apps.. what you deem is pointless is different than everyone...your reason to own a smartphone is seriously wrong in so many ways...just saying man but its your money.
Honestly people should just enjoy the phone rather than trying to make it last longer. If your phone can make it through the day then consider that a successful phone.
I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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Great write up. Thanks for sharing ??
I have just clocked it to 1,5 and frezeed a few LG stuff. I'm always from 5 hour screentime and up. If I just reading a weekend between 8 and 9 [one time ]
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How do u freez the apps?
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Instead of turning it OFF for the night, turn ON Aeroplane mode. That consumes less energy, than a turn off and on. This also solves the alarm problem, and no email or whatsoever shall wake you up at while you sleep
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3thman said:
How do u freez the apps?
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titanium back up
Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks. I found this thread very useful
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I assumed everyone used their phone as an alarm. I never turn my phone off subsequently.
Some nice hints for someone needing more battery; however, I disagree with your assertion that closing applications saves power. Assuming you need to open the application again it would make sense to leave the application running (idle) in cached ram.
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It completely depends on how often said application is opened, and what it does while idle. I know out of hand while I'm at work I see several people with 3-4 games left open on their phone, this is more what I was reffering too.
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polaric said:
Go through all the system apps and freeze anything you dont use. Example being the Picasa uploader (for me at least).
Leave as little system services running as you need. You wouldent believe how many unneeded services android runs. On the stock roms there are TWO location daemons running.
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Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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jesssiii said:
Could you list all the stuff you freeze? I'd appreciate more specific examples, thanks
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I wrote this late last night, so I didnt have time to look through the list of everything I froze, but I'll add it to the OP in the next few minutes since I have a few free moments.
It pisses me off to see me and many others complain about such a basic thing as LAG in this "super powerful" device.
What is the point of all this tons of CPU, huge RAM and etc., if it cannot manage basic tasks quickly. that's great that i can play 3D games, but I want my phone to be responsive as it used to be in the beginning.
How come I need to wait for 5 seconds for my contact list to load? 3 seconds for my SMS to load, 2 seconds for an app to load in the application center. 1.5 second until it responds to a home button. You expect this kind of basic tasks to be done INSTANTLY.
So what if I have lots of contacts? Doesn't Android follow BASIC programming concepts?
That is first load the frame, then show LOADING, then load the most necessary (in that case would be the first part of the list) and then load the rest. This way it doesn't feel laggy for the user. How come it simply loads for 5 seconds without any response and then shows ALL at once.
Everything is laggy, almost anything I press takes 1-2 seconds to respond the first time. Second time is mostly instant.
Tried to clean cache of all apps, using memory cleaners, disable double home click, I am at version 4.3, using Go Launcher.
How can I find if there's a specific app that causing it? Or what should I clean to make it go smooth as it used to be when it was new? all these task managers and such don't make ANY difference. Total waste of time.
Don't mind me being pissed and thank you for your input
P.S. - My device is not rooted.
yeah....that's why i put my S4 aside and bought the G2. it's touchwiz. it's horribly optimized and has been since JB. on ICS, touchwiz was great. it was snappy, fast, awesome. it was amazing on my S3. then the S3 got JB, and it turned to utter garbage. now, every samsung phone since JB is awful.
they really need to scrap TW and code it all over again.
I'm not getting this 5 second lag. 1 and a half seconds perhaps on the contact list and I have maybe 210 people on there.
If you're getting 5 seconds of lag I think something's up. I'm getting pretty quick responses WITH Power-Saving Mode enabled. With it disabled I don't really notice anything different tbh lol.
Sorry you're having a pain of a time. If you're going to get a new phone I would suggest the Nexus 5 :laugh:
I'm stock non-rooted.
Nova Launcher
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johno86 said:
I'm not getting this 5 second lag. 1 and a half seconds perhaps on the contact list and I have maybe 210 people on there.
If you're getting 5 seconds of lag I think something's up. I'm getting pretty quick responses WITH Power-Saving Mode enabled. With it disabled I don't really notice anything different tbh lol.
Sorry you're having a pain of a time. If you're going to get a new phone I would suggest the Nexus 5 :laugh:
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Nah, I'm not gonna get a new phone just because of that.
Could you perhaps tell me with which accounts you sync your contact list? I would assume that's related. Also are you trying it after your has been idle for a while? (it's much more responsive when I open it the second time)
Because of all the bloat you have installed...take off go launcher lol
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Go launcher is the worst. Go to the dev settings and change animation time to 0.5x or off, get apex or nova and use the fastest animation speeds, try different dialer & messaging apps. Don't use memory cleaners or task managers just delete whatever apps you don't use. Basically avoid using as much touchwiz crap as possible lol. Also know that live wallpaper and a lot of widgets cash slow things down too. I would think keeping all the stupid proximity sensor stuff on doesn't help either.
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It really does suck how slow this phone is considering it's hardware. Samsung needs to hire some new people because my girlfriend's htc one is very smooth and snappy with almost no lag (minus att 's slow 4g network) I wish htc would pull their heads out of their a**es and build good phones with good cameras with removable batteries and sd cards :banghead:
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If you go through and disable stuff like crazy it improves, but that doesn't really speak well for Samsung.
Frankly I'm done with 'em as a company.
SomeGuyDude said:
If you go through and disable stuff like crazy it improves, but that doesn't really speak well for Samsung.
Frankly I'm done with 'em as a company.
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I agree. But with htc in the sh*tter and Samsung heading in a similar direction, what other manufacturer is worth a damn? Or even half of one?
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I'm using nova prime as well as quite a few xposed mods including XuiMod.
All my nova settings are at faster than light, XuiMod settings are also set to fast, and I've set the transition animation scales to 0 /. 5 as well.
My S4 flies. I have no complaints at all. I've used titanium and gotten rid of all the BS too.
I agree TW has a lot going on but can be set up quite good and run quite fast. I've looked at other phones over and over again, trying to get back into flashing ROMs, but I keep landing back at my S4. It's still an awesome phone
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Don't mistaken transition speed for loading/processing speed which are two totally different things. The S4 is no slouch, if it's "lagging" like you said, it's an app for sure. I nor anyone I know with an S4 has experienced this phantom lag. But then again we don't blow up our phone with launchers, widgets, or 5 different apps telling me my battery level and apps running. Try using stock everything (launchers, dialers*lol*, messaging*lol*)
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whatever61 said:
It pisses me off to see me and many others complain about such a basic thing as LAG in this "super powerful" device.
What is the point of all this tons of CPU, huge RAM and etc., if it cannot manage basic tasks quickly. that's great that i can play 3D games, but I want my phone to be responsive as it used to be in the beginning.
How come I need to wait for 5 seconds for my contact list to load? 3 seconds for my SMS to load, 2 seconds for an app to load in the application center. 1.5 second until it responds to a home button. You expect this kind of basic tasks to be done INSTANTLY.
So what if I have lots of contacts? Doesn't Android follow BASIC programming concepts?
That is first load the frame, then show LOADING, then load the most necessary (in that case would be the first part of the list) and then load the rest. This way it doesn't feel laggy for the user. How come it simply loads for 5 seconds without any response and then shows ALL at once.
Everything is laggy, almost anything I press takes 1-2 seconds to respond the first time. Second time is mostly instant.
Tried to clean cache of all apps, using memory cleaners, disable double home click, I am at version 4.3, using Go Launcher.
How can I find if there's a specific app that causing it? Or what should I clean to make it go smooth as it used to be when it was new? all these task managers and such don't make ANY difference. Total waste of time.
Don't mind me being pissed and thank you for your input
P.S. - My device is not rooted.
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whatever61, did your phone behave like you have explained (lag) when you first bought it? If the answer is no then you have an apps/widgets/or other software on the phone causing you the problem. The ole' saying 'keep it simple stupid' kind of applies here (not saying at all that you are stupid). There are only so many resources in our phones...cpu capabilities, memory etc. The resources in our S4s are pretty significant considering the size and the limited power available. It really boils down to this...the more task you demand your phone to perform the more resources it uses and at some point it has to slow down to reallocate the limited resources it has...lag. Task managers use more resources than they save...live wallpaper is a resource hog...widgets (weather, facebook, goggle now, goggle +, pandora etc) constantly updating and running are resource hogs...contracts with added thumbnails, although "neat", take up not only memory but take longer (resources) to process when you want to look at one (when you call up a contact do you want the information or do you want to look at a picture, which one of those do you NEED?)...email and messaging apps that have to sync more than a few days of old mail/messages is a waste time and resources...Samsung has put a lot of "cute" animations and gesture sensitive "crap" on our phones...they are "cute" but not necessary and use resources. Bottom line...do a factory reset, decide what you need and "keep it simple stupid". (Again, I'm not calling you stupid!!).
Don't worry, I didn't think you are calling me stupid
Yes, if I remember correctly in the beginning it was working faster (but cannot say for sure what and where was the lag already existing and where it wasn't) and what you're saying about widgets, lots of apps and all that is very obvious and very general (thanks for the input, though). The don't install too many apps or reset to factory approach is not something I think a correct approach. I bought a super powerful phone to be able to install whatever I want on it, right?
Besides an example that I provide is that when I am in the application manager and pressing on an application it takes like 2 seconds to open up. I don't think it's related to me having too many apps.
I think that I should be able to see which app is causing the lag in each case and then make my decision based on it. Yes, I can install different task managers to show me which app is taking how much CPU and RAM, but I don't see anything exceptional there. Problem is at specific actions I do, so it would be good to see what happens (like in Chrome inspect element) when I press on the action, which processes are being launched, how much time it takes for them to complete and how much CPU was used at each process. A log like that would do the job.
Besides my post was more about the wrong engineering (see the example of the Contact list lag) and the fact that many people complain about the lag in S4 and a question if someone knows about a tool that can help me find what is causing the lag (see description of the tool above).
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Don't mistaken transition speed for loading/processing speed which are two totally different things. The S4 is no slouch, if it's "lagging" like you said, it's an app for sure. I nor anyone I know with an S4 has experienced this phantom lag. But then again we don't blow up our phone with launchers, widgets, or 5 different apps telling me my battery level and apps running. Try using stock everything (launchers, dialers*lol*, messaging*lol*)
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I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
whatever61 said:
I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
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I understand your frustration and your point is well taken. I don't know of a utility/app that will enable you to clearly identify an app or process that is causing the lag you experience. I know doing a Factory Reset is a big PITA and I never recommend that to someone unless I know of no other "cure" for the problem. And, sometimes a Factory Reset isn't the cure either. But often it is. The reason I recommended Factory Reset is that it is about the only way you can (that I know of) start with a "clean" phone and nail down the app or apps that are causing a problem as you reinstall them one or two at a time. I have a developer edition S4, rooted and bootloader unlocked, and I usually will do a factory reset every two or three weeks even while running a ROM that has been debloated and "fine tuned". It usually improves battery life and the phone works smoother...or maybe it's just my imagination, but I don't think so. Anyway, good luck, hope you find the problem. Maybe some wise ole' guy will come along and point you in the right direction.
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I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
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Well, for the most reliable experience, it is always best to stick with stock.
My advice is to run stock everything for a day to see if that's the problem. Your other option would be a factory reset in which I am trying to make you avoid.
Do you have 3rd party apps installed like sms/launcher/dialer/lockscreen/etc.? I can't imagine the amount of processes going on if someone had all those apps installed.
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I really dont understand why people complain about this so called lag. I've had no such thing since I got my s4 right when they came out.
My girlfriend gets her S4 acting all strange sometimes too, can seem laggy. However she is constantly downloading music and she uses like 3 programs to do so. I've had to remove quite a few of those apps and then it's working like new again. Sometimes a lot of the apps available out there just aren't the best and can screw things right up I think. I've had none of the issues she's had. Mine has been fast as hell since day one. And hers is back to normal too, I just have to keep an eye on her!!
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This post is ancient, but I still got the problem
I am just curious if other S4 users have the same problem or most don't ?
Then I will know that something is possible to do for sure, at least..