Now what? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I've rooted and installed HD RLS14, but I am now left pondering what next?
Its funny because at its core, the S4 is a phone, and I find myself wondering how else I can modify the S4? HyperDrive is a fantastic rom and I have had zero issues since I've installed it.
I now feel this need to do more to the phone, but there is nothing I can do to improve it. Sure, I can modify the aesthetics of the rom, but I can only do that so many times. The point I am getting to is that we do not know what we want as humans, and once we have what we truly need, we realize it is not enough or I should say we think it is not enough. Despite the fact that we have no idea of how to fulfill that "need" that really isn't there.
Sorry for blabbing. I'm just bored.

GlitchMob said:
I've rooted and installed HD RLS14, but I am now left pondering what next?
Its funny because at its core, the S4 is a phone, and I find myself wondering how else I can modify the S4? HyperDrive is a fantastic rom and I have had zero issues since I've installed it.
I now feel this need to do more to the phone, but there is nothing I can do to improve it. Sure, I can modify the aesthetics of the rom, but I can only do that so many times. The point I am getting to is that we do not know what we want as humans, and once we have what we truly need, we realize it is not enough or I should say we think it is not enough. Despite the fact that we have no idea of how to fulfill that "need" that really isn't there.
Sorry for blabbing. I'm just bored.
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Why not take the time now and learn how to modify and/or make what it is you want? Isn't that what this site is and why we are here for?

GlitchMob said:
I've rooted and installed HD RLS14, but I am now left pondering what next?
Its funny because at its core, the S4 is a phone, and I find myself wondering how else I can modify the S4? HyperDrive is a fantastic rom and I have had zero issues since I've installed it.
I now feel this need to do more to the phone, but there is nothing I can do to improve it. Sure, I can modify the aesthetics of the rom, but I can only do that so many times. The point I am getting to is that we do not know what we want as humans, and once we have what we truly need, we realize it is not enough or I should say we think it is not enough. Despite the fact that we have no idea of how to fulfill that "need" that really isn't there.
Sorry for blabbing. I'm just bored.
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Exactly like Naddict said... Play around. Learn more. There's a lot of things you can change or modify. I've been at this a while myself and I learn something new everyday. Check out the XDA University or one of the countless guides on here for any number of tips and tricks. These phones are just little computers now. Pretty cool stuff!
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GlitchMob said:
I've rooted and installed HD RLS14, but I am now left pondering what next?
Its funny because at its core, the S4 is a phone, and I find myself wondering how else I can modify the S4? HyperDrive is a fantastic rom and I have had zero issues since I've installed it.
I now feel this need to do more to the phone, but there is nothing I can do to improve it. Sure, I can modify the aesthetics of the rom, but I can only do that so many times. The point I am getting to is that we do not know what we want as humans, and once we have what we truly need, we realize it is not enough or I should say we think it is not enough. Despite the fact that we have no idea of how to fulfill that "need" that really isn't there.
Sorry for blabbing. I'm just bored.
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Venture out a little and learn something new for starters....
I have been testing all the ss compatible ROMS which now are getting close to 2 dozen and switch between my day to day HD14 workhorse to each one for a day or 2. Been fun doing so for sure and learning new stuff is the antidote to boredom

Naddict said:
Why not take the time now and learn how to modify and/or make what it is you want? Isn't that what this site is and why we are here for?
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I think if you really read into what I am saying, you'll realize my point is that we do not know what we want. We constantly want something better to fulfill a need that is created by us, rather than a need that comes from necessity.

GlitchMob said:
I think if you really read into what I am saying, you'll realize my point is that we do not know what we want. We constantly want something better to fulfill a need that is created by us, rather than a need that comes from necessity.
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That is why they make so many themes and also Xposed framework, not to mention Alllllllll the ROMs, then add kernels on top of that. No one is going to tell you what to flash here. It is about you.

I'm not here asking for direction on what to do. This thread was moved here from the general section. I was just trying to have discussion about what our expectations from these phones actually are.
I did not realize I had to spell it out for some of you. The point of the thread was to elicit a discussion about the users actual needs and expectations regarding the phones.
Lol nm I guess.
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GlitchMob said:
I'm not here asking for direction on what to do. This thread was moved here from the general section. I was just trying to have discussion about what our expectations from these phones actually are.
I did not realize I had to spell it out for some of you. The point of the thread was to elicit a discussion about the users actual needs and expectations regarding the phones.
Lol nm I guess.
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I wax taking your post for speaking your opinion on yourself and your own issues. ..I believe you have received adequate responses...boredom is often a result of intellectual laziness. ..
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GlitchMob said:
I'm not here asking for direction on what to do. This thread was moved here from the general section. I was just trying to have discussion about what our expectations from these phones actually are.
I did not realize I had to spell it out for some of you. The point of the thread was to elicit a discussion about the users actual needs and expectations regarding the phones.
Lol nm I guess.
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I get what you're saying now that you explain yourself that way. In think that's a deep conversation to get into though on here lol not looking for actual answers as to what to do next... But rather discuss our expectations as human beings and relate that to an S4 that can be nodded beyond belief...
I'm just bustin balls here man... Lol
Not trying to knock what you were intending to do!
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Froyo is out!!! Can we fix little problems now with DEV ROMS?

Just as the title says...Can we now?
Which problems? This build is the same ED01 build we found a few days ago.
Doubt it will make a huge difference. Its nearly the same as EC01.
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Check out evil fascination rom. Pretty nice, based on what I believe to be the same build sent ota tonight. Thats as good as it gets right now imo.
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How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
finakechi said:
How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
Yes, it IS true that there probably isn't MUCH of a difference between this and EC01...
However, this is what I was waiting on to update my ROM, personally, so I will be doing this in the next few days. As for what other developers would like to do, that is a personal choice, they may simply not see any reason to and won't.
So besides those like me who make the choice to do anything with it, you probably won't see anything happen. Just keep in mind that just because it is official doesn't really make it any better than what we have at this moment. I haven't explored it yet, but that is my opinion on the matter.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
gkirby11 said:
When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see no reason to be slightly harsh .
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+1
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also most people want aosp,cm fixes and this will not help them, the stuff they want fixed is tied to tw which had been stated hundreds of times.
SC2.9.2 Voodoo Eclipse
Something to that effect (Touchwiz source doesn't help AOSP so much) should honestly be stickied to the top of the development forum, although I doubt that would help that much anyway with the type of people who post these threads...
People don't remember how long it took for JT to even get a good Eclair AOSP build working. I think it's somewhat clear that Samsung's releases are not terribly useful for AOSP ROMs.
gkirby11 said:
When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
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I really think that mods should temp-ban these people who just post wherever they want.
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We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
times_infinity said:
We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
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Thats all folks!
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Sorry I just think it's a little rude to post this in the Development forum is exclamation points and CAPS!!! It came off very "ugh why do these dev roms have so many problems can we just get them fixed? GAWD!"...to me. I am not a developer but I am very aware that it is not nearly as simple to do what they do as some people seem to think. Maybe I over reacted a little, but that type of attitude pisses me off.

[Q] Steps to becoming a Rom Developer

I have no experience, but i'd like to learn how to make my own custom rom.
Does anyone know what i'd need for a Thunderbolt GB rom?
I've looked into it and read about Kitchens and how you need them, but don't fully understand.
I'd like to know if the community could help me out here.
I could google it and I have, but I don't get any results that are specifically for the Thunderbolt.
Please go easy on me. :/
I can't answer your question so I apologize for taking a spot in your thread but I don't see any reason people would be rude/harsh towards you especially considering you posted in the proper section! Good luck and hope to see a ROM from you someday!
Mustang302LX said:
I can't answer your question so I apologize for taking a spot in your thread but I don't see any reason people would be rude/harsh towards you especially considering you posted in the proper section! Good luck and hope to see a ROM from you someday!
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It's okay! haha. Any input is good input.
I was sure to put it in the Q/A ;D
Can anyone help?
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+make+an+android+rom&spell=1&biw=1810&bih=866
the phone model does not matter really and you wont find anything specific for the thunderbolt.
Install Linux right off the bat... Dealing with Windows and using environments are a PIA.
Download apktool, kitchen, gimp, and your base ROM whether it be the GB leak or MR2. Read up on how the system works, various editing techniques, and suck up all the info possible. It really is a learning process, not really something someone can tell you how to do.
That's what I did/do to learn.
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RjsShadows said:
I have no experience, but i'd like to learn how to make my own custom rom.
Does anyone know what i'd need for a Thunderbolt GB rom?
I've looked into it and read about Kitchens and how you need them, but don't fully understand.
I'd like to know if the community could help me out here.
I could google it and I have, but I don't get any results that are specifically for the Thunderbolt.
Please go easy on me. :/
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You do realize too that some people, no matter how hard they may try, are just not cut out to this type of stuff?
I'm not saying you can't do this, but just be aware that the end result may not be what you want it to be.
Thank you Theory and Yareally! I'm good at researching, looking into things and learning
I just needed to know what exactly I needed to look up.
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Dnakaman said:
You do realize too that some people, no matter how hard they may try, are just not cut out to this type of stuff?
I'm not saying you can't do this, but just be aware that the end result may not be what you want it to be.
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Lol
THUNDERBOLT
elliott35 said:
Lol
THUNDERBOLT
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He was just looking out for me, haha. I'm not a moron, I'll know what I'm doing when I finish researching.
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RjsShadows said:
He was just looking out for me, haha. I'm not a moron, I'll know what I'm doing when I finish researching.
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Ya, I remember back in my days in school when these people were in computer classes with me saying how cool it was to learn to program.
Half of them, while very bright, lacked a certain "ability" to grasp programming, shall we say.

[Q] Moving to AOKP

I'm currently rooted, but running stock ICS.
How do I get to AOKP without loosing my apps and their data safely?
I'm fairly comfortable with ROMs/rooting on my Droid phones. Just a little nervous with my spendy tablet.
Thanks guys.
Titanium backup. Oh and if you want AOKP, you might want to check another site for the latest version.
Thank you! XDA doesn't have the latest version? Wha?
Man I am soooo nervous to unlock.
Also I guess my next question is with AOKP updates. How do I apply those without wiping cache/data and all that every time like on my Droid?
fairplay89 said:
Thank you! XDA doesn't have the latest version? Wha?
Man I am soooo nervous to unlock.
Also I guess my next question is with AOKP updates. How do I apply those without wiping cache/data and all that every time like on my Droid?
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Sorry, I would speak my mind about moderators around here, but I'd probably be banned for free speech.
It's easier to bash the President than it is to say anything negative about an XDA moderator.
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rorytmeadows said:
Sorry, I would speak my mind about moderators around here, but I'd probably be banned for free speech.
It's easier to bash the President than it is to say anything negative about an XDA moderator.
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Glad to see freedom of speech is still alive and kicking. Hehe. Not the only forum with that problem.
And I wasn't trying to be negative. I thought that XDA was THEE place to go for Android stuff. Am I wrong? Where would I locate the newer version? AOKP.co? Just don't wanna download from Uncle Jimmy's used Android ROMs or anything.
Thanks.
fairplay89 said:
Glad to see freedom of speech is still alive and kicking. Hehe. Not the only forum with that problem.
And I wasn't trying to be negative. I thought that XDA was THEE place to go for Android stuff. Am I wrong? Where would I locate the newer version? AOKP.co? Just don't wanna download from Uncle Jimmy's used Android ROMs or anything.
Thanks.
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I concur with you completely. I thought XDA was THE place to be. Apparently, there are other discos in town and there is a lot of fighting in between them.
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It is not the popular opinion but simply put the forum is not controlled by the government. There is no free speech here.
flyingwolf said:
It is not the popular opinion but simply put the forum is not controlled by the government. There is no free speech here.
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And you're ok with that? Wow....
Back on topic though... how do I easily update AOKP versions?
all I ever do when trying a new rom, is back up with Titanium Back up and also with Clockwork.
I install the new rom and see if its working fine. Then reinstall my apps and I am good. If all else fails, i restore to a back up on Clockwork
Of course I am ok with it. Those are the rules I agreed to. Do I think the mods are fair? It depends on the situation.
But simply put this is not a public board. It is a private board that the public at large may view and join as they wish. Grow up.
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Glad to see freedom of speech is still alive and kicking. Hehe. Not the only forum with that problem.
And I wasn't trying to be negative. I thought that XDA was THEE place to go for Android stuff. Am I wrong? Where would I locate the newer version? AOKP.co? Just don't wanna download from Uncle Jimmy's used Android ROMs or anything.
Thanks.
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Yeah maybe its not a bad idea, it could be called 'Free Speech XDA Developers & Forums'
Sorry was hazying away from Topic while thinking about the freedom of speech thing.
But too many good devs and good people with great ideas get kicked out because many mods do not know how to not involve their personal feelings in their jobs as mods.
flyingwolf said:
Of course I am ok with it. Those are the rules I agreed to. Do I think the mods are fair? It depends on the situation.
But simply put this is not a public board. It is a private board that the public at large may view and join as they wish. Grow up.
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Grow up? I try to exercise my rights and you tell me to grow up? Maybe you should take a quick look at yourself before you judge others.
I found Build 34 of AOKP and I think I am gonna go with that version. I also successfully got a backup made it Titanium so I think I am good to go.
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Grow up? I try to exercise my rights and you tell me to grow up? Maybe you should take a quick look at yourself before you judge others.
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You are still having an issue understanding this.
You have no rights on this message board. This board is not in any way run by a government body and as such does not have to respect your rights.
If you want to test my assertion I suggest you try breaking a few of the rules and see what happens.
If you wish to go somewhere with no censoring may I suggest 4chan?
Congrats on finding what you were looking for.
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You are still having an issue understanding this.
You have no rights on this message board. This board is not in any way run by a government body and as such does not have to respect your rights.
If you want to test my assertion I suggest you try breaking a few of the rules and see what happens.
If you wish to go somewhere with no censoring may I suggest 4chan?
Congrats on finding what you were looking for.
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All of what you said is the reality but it doesn't make it right either. This is why my involvement here is limited. There are certainly other places to have community, a little more "free speech", and get Roms.
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flyingwolf said:
Of course I am ok with it. Those are the rules I agreed to. Do I think the mods are fair? It depends on the situation.
But simply put this is not a public board. It is a private board that the public at large may view and join as they wish. Grow up.
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I agree. It's just so bad for business, when you kick one of the most popular and one of the few devs for this device. I'm refreshing the competitors website more now then xda because my dev isn't here. I'm sure i'm not the only one.
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Since NVflash is coming, we will see a huge boost in development.
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Since NVflash is coming, we will see a huge boost in development.
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What's this? Did you just give me an instant hardon with this info?????
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It's this way on tons of forums out there. Someone becomes an admin, they think they rule the world and then it gets to their heads. Find a welcoming forum, and stick with it!
If you want to ban me for saying that. Go for it, I won't be stopping by here too often anymore anyways, just like many others. Just solidifies my views and quite honestly makes the XDA community look bad.
However I did find what I was looking for at a different site and the users there were very helpful and I was able to successfully get to AOKP, and they even helped me troubleshoot some other issues with CWM.
So I am sorry XDA, I've loved you for a long time, but there are much more welcoming places out there for Android Development.
And thank you for the users that did actually try to help me get to AOKP on XDA.

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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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Melodycd said:
I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
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If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
Danzoman316 said:
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.

[Q] Question on the state of G Note II Modding

Hey guys, I have had my VZW Note II for a few months now, and I tried to root/unlock it a few weeks back but ran into multiple issues that prevented me from completing the process (specifically the unlocking posed problems, no doubt because of my own mistakes).
My question is, what is the state of G Note II modding right now? I came from the GNex (rooted) and it had a very robust community, but it seems like the difficulty with unlocking this phone might lead to a less vibrant set of options for flashing. Is this phone getting a lot of dev attention or is it not worth the trouble to crack?
This is subjective, I know, but give me your opinions if you dont mind! Thanks in advance!
This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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kintwofan said:
This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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DO NOT POST YOUR QUESTION THERE! This is in the right place my point was go to them and look at the different ROMs. If it is good enough for you or the is a ROM you want to try then you answered your own question
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There is no good answer to this. What is mainstream for one person is early-adopter for another. The right answer is to do some reading in the ROM/kernel threads and decide your own comfort level. That you asked this question makes me think you should wait. I would say that dev for this device is still gaining traction. It's only been out a couple of months.
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There are half a dozen or so Touchwiz based ROMs and at least that many AOSP ROMs. Add in 4 or 5 kernels and considering the we only got the bootloader unlock about two months ago, I think development has been great. In all honestly, I am not sure how many more ways ROMs can be tweaked...there might be some diminishing utility after 10+ ROMs.
I got my phone about 10 days ago, and had it rooted/unlocked within a few hours. I didnt have any issues at all getting it there. I made sure not to accept the VZW OTA update, and when I saw it was going to force me to update within 5 days, that forced my hand to go ahead and root it.
I just used the following guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207 to root it, and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636 to unlock it.
If you have accepted the OTA update, your steps change, and you'll use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348 to unlock it instead.
I personally havent messed with AOSP roms. Coming from GNex that was all I ran, and I'm enjoying a slick TouchWiz setup right now. I remember on my Droid Charge, having NO desire to keep TW, but it's a lot better on this phone.
I am a Charge refugee as well...what a difference the Note 2 is. I've run CleanRom and three builds of Beans. Don't think I want to give up some the the Touchwiz features for AOSP...at least until key lime pie comes out.
Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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Your question was not worded very well to say that since you wanted to compaire it to the gnex. A quick look in the development sections shows what is available. My previous points still stand. Always see these threads at least 2-3 times in the 6 months i own a phone that isnt a nexus.
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I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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Sorry I've been around long enough yo get frustrated by people on this site. I've also been saying the same things for months and linking to the XDA rules doesn't make people care, giving them harsh statements do.
If OP wanted his question answered he could have searched. Plenty of info is available.
My views have become, if you haven't searched and then are asking why or if you should do something, you shouldn't do it at all and shouldn't ask if you should.
Search first then ask questions.
If you want to compare the Gnex to the Note2 development, all you have to do is look in both forums and see how many ROM/athreads are in the dev sections. Weather you unlock or not has nothing to do with it. Do it or don't.
In answer to the original poster, yes it is worth unlocking.
The beans and cleanrom roms alone add enough polish to warrant it.
The ability to take a nandroid is worth it. Everyone backs up their computer..... so why not a tablet
There is a kernel or two? That work with stweaks for cpu/gpu power control. A forum member also put together some nice flash able profiles for it even. If you want to increase battery or performance it's possible.
Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you. That can't be flashed without a recovery....
Because it came with a locked bootloader of the start, there seemed to be a delay with devs because they first had to figure out how to unlock it to begin development. Now that is unlocked the wheels seem to be moving pretty good.
On a side note, if I recall correctly there may be a way to run international roms on it. You would want to research, I haven't really looked into it. Could be wrong.
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Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you.
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The original modem has faster 3g for me, but the new one has better connectivity and speed on 4g. I wish we had combined modems with ie. 3g from one modem and 4g from the other.

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