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Saw this app on my twitter timeline (@CallipH). Seems very interesting. I for one am very cautious about the permissions a new app, or even an update requests. I can see this being useful, but I can also see it causing a lot of bugs since the apps may geniunely need the permissions requested.
Looks like it has some other goodies included in the app as well.
Here you go if you want to learn more:
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ALSO, an unrelated app... this one lets you take pics of plants to identify them. Currently only on iPhone... hit them up on their site or twitter. I want this. LEAFSNAP
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I've generally been on the XDA App lately, so signatures pass me by. Can you actually get Fat Tire in NC now? When I lived there (up until '95), we didn't have good beer. And if so, you need to be on the lookout for a better brew from Breck, 1554. Its a brussel's black ale, but has no bitterness to it at all.
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I've generally been on the XDA App lately, so signatures pass me by. Can you actually get Fat Tire in NC now? When I lived there (up until '95), we didn't have good beer. And if so, you need to be on the lookout for a better brew from Breck, 1554. Its a brussel's black ale, but has no bitterness to it at all.
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I was emailing New Belgium for years to change distributors, and they finally reached out. I almost daily see their delivery truck now. Heaven. Yes, 1554 and Mighty Arrow are amazing beers too. Fat Tire, prob b/c an amber is just sooo good to me though.
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I was emailing New Belgium for years to change distributors, and they finally reached out. I almost daily see their delivery truck now. Heaven. Yes, 1554 and Mighty Arrow are amazing beers too. Fat Tire, prob b/c an amber is just sooo good to me though.
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Good news! Now I know if I visit back to nc, I have a chance of finding some good brew. My last trip out there, I carted a case of each with me across the country, lol.
I do stand corrected, getting my microbreweries mixed up here. In between New Belgium, Breckenridge Brewery, and Bristol Brewery (which is right around the corner from my house), its a wonder anyone out here in the great rockies gets a damn thing done, lol.
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Good news! Now I know if I visit back to nc, I have a chance of finding some good brew. My last trip out there, I carted a case of each with me across the country, lol.
I do stand corrected, getting my microbreweries mixed up here. In between New Belgium, Breckenridge Brewery, and Bristol Brewery (which is right around the corner from my house), its a wonder anyone out here in the great rockies gets a damn thing done, lol.
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Living in lodo definitely has its perks. I know take my fair share of micro brew tours on foot.
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Raleigh NC and the surrounding area is a mecca for local breweries and the quality of beers amazes me. It seems like every couple of weeks I hear of a new brewery popping up. Love it.
In short, don't worry about carting beer next time you come to beautiful NC
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Raleigh NC and the surrounding area is a mecca for local breweries and the quality of beers amazes me. It seems like every couple of weeks I hear of a new brewery popping up. Love it.
In short, don't worry about carting beer next time you come to beautiful NC
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Werd.
Oh, the app you posted looks good, could definitely cause issues with some apps, havent tested yet but I do believe you can restore the apps original permissions if necessary. Good tool for the security minded android users imho.
Ginger Clones of the World Unite!!! via the XDA App
Permissions denied is excellent. Haven't had an issue yet, but I'm also very careful what permissions I freeze. An app that's function its to go on the internet makes no sense to block its internet permission but I will block it from reading contacts if I don't plan to use that feature of the app. No apps have balked yet. Thanks for this!
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
Oh, and leafsnap sounds cool, but I need something more like BarkSnap, since all the trees I'm looking at are cut down, and limbed. I don't need to be wasting my time cutting and splitting damned Pine!
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Finally got my prime after so much stress and work. Was so EXICTED.
First off the bat, I noticed it was kinda sluggish. Maybe I expected too much oh of it but when switching to portrait mode from landscape, it could take up to 3 seconds and shudder (unlike my iPad 2).
The browser was SO slow oh my god. Went side by side with my iPad 2 and the iPad 2 destroyed the prime. Often times the prime would just give up half way through loading the page and I had to click refresh.
What's up with the keyboard? I've been typing on tablets for so long and am really fast. Often times when I typed something, the prime didn't recognize me clicking space and words were mashed together. Almost never have had this problem before and it was common on the prime.
The native books app is TERRIBLE. I had this 500 page PDF I wanted to read and got it on my prime. The books app would freeze up and take up to 10 seconds sometimes to load the next page! Thankfully I went to the android market and found a third party one.
Overall, even with ICS, it doesn't feel as snappy or responsisive as iOS (and trust me, I HATE giving apple credit). I can't see myself actually achieving a task on this, like typing something up or looking up something with the slow browser. It didn't have smooth enough transitions and I hated to see it shudder.
So yes I am SO upset. I don't even want to recap the trouble and time input to finally getting one of these. Either you suck Asus, my unit is messed up(doubtful), or I have been spoiled with iOS and android is second rate. Thank you
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Finally got my prime after so much stress and work. Was so EXICTED.
First off the bat, I noticed it was kinda sluggish. Maybe I expected too much oh of it but when switching to portrait mode from landscape, it could take up to 3 seconds and shudder (unlike my iPad 2).
that is odd - are you using a live wallpaper? if so that can happen sometimes. Also can you tell if its happening with specific apps or the entire tablet? that happens to me every time I use the Best Buy app and a few others - its the apps fault. But it could be your tablet. There is also a setting to look for that you can tell the tablet to auto detect orientation or to force ti one way ot the other - double check what that is set at
The browser was SO slow oh my god. Went side by side with my iPad 2 and the iPad 2 destroyed the prime. Often times the prime would just give up half way through loading the page and I had to click refresh.
The stock browser sucks. get Opera Mobile. It is free. The stock browser is better with ICS now. I ditched the stock browser after 2 days and this is my 4th android device in less than 4 years and I've never switched browsers until now. This appears to be common but easily reolved by using another browser (no different than using Chrome in stead of IE on your PC for example
What's up with the keyboard? I've been typing on tablets for so long and am really fast. Often times when I typed something, the prime didn't recognize me clicking space and words were mashed together. Almost never have had this problem before and it was common on the prime.
The default keyboard is Swype I believe. Check out it's swype feature, it's pretty cool. You trace works instead poke out letters. LOTS of keyboards to choose from. I recommend SwiftKey x for Tablets
The native books app is TERRIBLE. I had this 500 page PDF I wanted to read and got it on my prime. The books app would freeze up and take up to 10 seconds sometimes to load the next page! Thankfully I went to the android market and found a third party one.
I kinda like the default reader, but I have a nook so I have a library there and therefore prefer to use that app. This tablet also come preloaded with the Kindle app. All of those eReader apps are free. and they all work slightly different. Find one you like and then stick with that one. Check out free book samples while you are testing them.
- also have you rebooted after you installed ICS? I mean a nice long and slow shut down, walk away, come back later, turn it on, walk away, don't touch it, and then let it load back up....no touching for 15 minutes? t=That s no science but just a recommendation from past experience flashing roms and OSs etc.
Overall, even with ICS, it doesn't feel as snappy or responsisive as iOS (and trust me, I HATE giving apple credit). I can't see myself actually achieving a task on this, like typing something up or looking up something with the slow browser. It didn't have smooth enough transitions and I hated to see it shudder.
something is not right for it to be THAT bad. I wouldn't expect a brand new, less than one month old release of a new tablet and only one day into a brand new OS to prefer anywhere close to iOS. Ever. If Apple is due credit where they are due - for $800+ someone can walk away with a beautiful tablet that is nearly flawless It sounds like something is slowing your way down, really bogging it. Have you tried killing the tasks (there is a widget fot that now, and rebooting? You could try that before you do the longer walk away reboot. You could also get OS Monitor and see what is hoggin on your CPU.
So yes I am SO upset. I don't even want to recap the trouble and time input to finally getting one of these. Either you suck Asus, my unit is messed up(doubtful), or I have been spoiled with iOS and android is second rate. Thank you
Noting you mentioned is related to hardware so it is not Asus. If you've never used Android then you probably =bly aren't familiar with the variety of settings you can change and ways you can tweak things to help youself trouble shoot some of these problems. I hear you there buddy about the PIa of getting one of these to begin with!! took me over 3 hours on the phone just to get my ordered changed even though I had an email with exact instructions on how to do it. Apparently they didn't tell the CSRs how to do it.Did you get yours from Best Buy? If so, yo are probably still within your 30 days return period. You could return out and wait for a new arrival exchange unit to come in.
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Personally it ALL sounds HW related to me...
OP....If the tablet was up to the task you would be getting better performance.
Yes, there seems to be some happy people out there but as it's been PROVEN that there are MAJOR problems with the TFP.. I'd be more than likely to say it's because these people have a high threshold for putting up with garbage, rather than them experiencing less problems than everyone else.
If you dislike spending good money afte bad on HW that [email protected] WORK PROPERLY then yeah.. go ahead, buy it.. but if you like value for money.. kick it to the kerb.
I have read up on this constantly for the past 2 months... TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****.
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Personally it ALL sounds HW related to me...
OP....If the tablet was up to the task you would be getting better performance.
Yes, there seems to be some happy people out there but as it's been PROVEN that there are MAJOR problems with the TFP.. I'd be more than likely to say it's because these people have a high threshold for putting up with garbage, rather than them experiencing less problems than everyone else.
If you dislike spending good money afte bad on HW that [email protected] WORK PROPERLY then yeah.. go ahead, buy it.. but if you like value for money.. kick it to the kerb.
I have read up on this constantly for the past 2 months... TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****.
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Do you have one? No? Then you should probably stfu...lol. It is a great tablet and has really good hardware. The only known HW issue that I am aware of is GPS. The Prime is a great piece of technology and I am no fanboy. It has issues but nothing like what you mention or what the OP mentions, IMO. If the OP is having that type of trouble they describe then I recommend returning it because that is not the experience i have had at all.
The stock browser, btw, is better than Opera Mobile on ICS. It was crap on HC though.
android sucks lesson learned
I thought your OP seemed a little trollish. Now we know you are a big A fanboy that came to enlighten the Android faithful about the second coming of Jobs. Thanks. We weren't aware that Android was completely inferior to iOS. Now that we know I am sure we will all sell our devices and get in line at the closest Apple store.
Really though for what it's worth, I think Apple is great for a lot of people. I would recommend it to my wife now that Sprint has the iPhone even. It will probably be her next phone. She will probably have an iPad at some point even. So, I'm not sure why there has to be such a divide.
That said, I really can't imagine what would possess someone to create an account on XDA and pretend that their Prime is worse than their iPad 2 just to put out the idea that Android is ass. BTW, most of us have so much experience with this OS that even if it was complete ass we would be so used to the smell that it wouldn't bother us to be all nose deep up in it. Luckily that isn't the case. I know you want it to be. You really wish it was. But..
Android is a great platform with a ton of great developers. Now that Jobs is dead, Apple is likely destined to go back to where it was just before he rejoined their ranks. It's going to take a lot longer now because of all of the iOS worship though.
Anyway, I hope you find a buyer for your Prime if you ever had one. Thanks for letting us know that all of this Android development and enthusiasm is for not. I can't believe I wasted this much time on it...whew. Thanks again. You are awesome. You look really cool with those white headphones too. Sick. I love it. Later el f*cko.
I crack a little smile every time I read such glorious, intelligent, well thought-out posts!
I would say return it for sure. No reason to stick with it and be disappointed.
Have people lost their ability to criticize products without sounding like they just came out of the womb (not talking to you OP, but some of the other thread commentators in this thread)?
Unfortunately I've had the exact same experience as the OP with the Prime I bought to replace my Ipad2. I'm severely disappointed in the performance, especially the stock browser. I know people say to download a browser from the market, but do they really expect all customers to do that? That is their solution?
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I crack a little smile every time I read such glorious, intelligent, well thought-out posts!
I would say return it for sure. No reason to stick with it and be disappointed.
Have people lost their ability to criticize products without sounding like they just came out of the womb (not talking to you OP, but some of the other thread commentators in this thread)?
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Looks like there are apple fanboys in our forum again desperate to find something to gloat about. they are like hawks and troll this forum to tarnish this product as much as possible. They are scared that Apple may finally lose its marketshare now that there are MUCH better options. Don't be fooled by them!:
I find it sad that anyone that questions this tablet is immediately branded an apple fanboy.
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I find it sad that anyone that questions this tablet is immediately branded an apple fanboy.
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I'm not on the apple fanboy-branding bandwagon either; I've used iPads, iPhones, and own an iMac. My better half has an iPhone, and it just plain works - period. The iPhone just works, while I sit around tinkering with aftermarket android apps, changing themes, flashing ROMs which might or might not work. So you won't see me criticizing love for Apple. It's fair to compare the two. But there's a mature and constructive way to criticize.
The second response to this post had the phrase "TBH, this tablet is a piece of ****." Wow, what a revelation! Could we scrape the bottom of the barrel anymore when it comes to intelligent observations about the tablet? The OP says it's possible his unit is messed up, but he says 'doubtful'. The title of his thread includes "or does this tablet suck." We are on a TFP forum. Come on. My tablet runs well. I have extensive experience with iPads and other tablets. The TFP runs beautifully for me; and now with ICS, the stock browser is fine. So YES, your tablet is probably messed up in some way or another. Or I just got some lucky batch that performs above and beyond yours.
I understand that others are not having the same experience and are frustrated, but I would take advantage of their retailers return policy and return/replace the tablet. I've already had to replace mine. I'm debating seriously about returning it in order to get one of the newly announced CES tablets. But you won't see me typing half-assed, dumbed-down posts that are clearly written to stir up the pot.
My personal experience
I've had my Tranformer Prime maybe close to 8 months.
Now it's running JB 4.1.1 Stock ROM which was updated OTA.
I do find this tablet rather sluggish. Switching from one app to another takes a few seconds.
Moving from one page to another when viewing PDF files is a chore! I do personally feel it's hardware issues. Not so sure whether it'll be solved by rooting and changing ROMS but I do find myself using my Note2 more often than my tablet just because the latter is super fast!
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I've had my Tranformer Prime maybe close to 8 months.
Now it's running JB 4.1.1 Stock ROM which was updated OTA.
I do find this tablet rather sluggish. Switching from one app to another takes a few seconds.
Moving from one page to another when viewing PDF files is a chore! I do personally feel it's hardware issues. Not so sure whether it'll be solved by rooting and changing ROMS but I do find myself using my Note2 more often than my tablet just because the latter is super fast!
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I was also having problems with mine after the ota and called customer support to find out about doing a factory reset, whereupon they said they were aware of problems and that it needed to be returned and flashed by them. It was picked up on Monday and is in repair now.
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I was also having problems with mine after the ota and called customer support to find out about doing a factory reset, whereupon they said they were aware of problems and that it needed to be returned and flashed by them. It was picked up on Monday and is in repair now.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm confused. So there IS a problem with the OTA update to JB? Why send it back? Can they ie ASUS do something about it?
Can't you do the factory reset yourself?
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm confused. So there IS a problem with the OTA update to JB? Why send it back? Can they ie ASUS do something about it?
Can't you do the factory reset yourself?
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They said some people are having a problem and that me doing a factory reset would not sort it but they could, hence them asking me to return it for them to reset. If you explain that your problems have occurred since the ota I would hope that they would recall it and at the very least test it after their service.
I hope this helps, I will post again after I receive it back, which hopefully will be a couple of days after easter.
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They said some people are having a problem and that me doing a factory reset would not sort it but they could, hence them asking me to return it for them to reset. If you explain that your problems have occurred since the ota I would hope that they would recall it and at the very least test it after their service.
I hope this helps, I will post again after I receive it back, which hopefully will be a couple of days after easter.
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Thanks alot. Please keep me posted. Maybe I should try hard reset it.. see how that helps.
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Thanks alot. Please keep me posted. Maybe I should try hard reset it.. see how that helps.
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I hard reset mine several times and for me it didn't make a difference but no harm in trying.
Back using my HP TouchPad which is smooth but much heavier and without the same aspect ratio for video or HDMI out and of course the advantages of the dock. So I am looking forward to getting it back.
I like my prime, and don't care whether you do or not.
Well do you? or not?
BTW if you want to post a sad or happy story, post away but vote first.
Edit JD made a good point if you cant return it but wish you could vote under the appropriate return slot
no option for depends if I can get a refund or not cause then I won't have a choice
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no option for depends if I can get a refund or not cause then I won't have a choice
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nope keeping it real simple, just curious about the basics yes, no, maybe, and returning.
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nope keeping it real simple, just curious about the basics yes, no, maybe, and returning.
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some people would return but no longer have the option just saying your missing that from the poll cause that's my vote. I would return for a refund if I could
I'll like even more with an unlocked BL . First tablet I've ever owned and am completely satisfied. The 1 thing I wish it had was a USB port but I'm happy.
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Majority speaks so far. Just like in other polls.
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Majority speaks so far. Just like in other polls.
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Yeah it's interesting, I just wanted something not shaded, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned that I like mine
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Yeah it's interesting, I just wanted something not shaded, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned that I like mine
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Its fair enough. All I would want is people to vote honestly. N I feel the ones that like the prime always do. That's how all this type polls turn out the same. Majority loves the prime n want to keep it. We know prime has its flaws, for me GPS. But when you get a good working one, like me..lol, its too hard to deny that this is a great device. Just glad I don't have to deal with issues to take away from my enjoyment of it. Its like the prime stays glued to my hands now..lol my ipad just sits n collect dust now if my girl not using it..lol
I voted "Not decided". I have only had for a few hours and I Love everything about this Tablet except for the Wifi weakness and that might not be a deal breaker. The reason I got a Tablet was for my wife to take to meetings where she needs Wifi access for Webpages and the ability for her to transfer Documents and Data she has on our PC to the Tablet and vice versa. We had a 7 year old Laptop she had been using and it was time for an update anyhow and she loves the size and weight of a tablet. The Prime is PERFECT for her if she can get good WiFi at Conference meetings in Convention Centers and Hotels. She really doesn't have a meeting until April where she needs the Tablet so I am going to have to try to test the Wifi in some areas before hand since I have the 14 days I can return to Best Buy.
How often will you "wife" get to use it?
Back to dislike. Boo for sleep issue!
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About 70% so far like the prime and keeping it. This number will only get higher.
This is all The Delphi effect. The opinion of the masses will have more merit than the opinion of one random chosen person. Sociologists have discovered that and that alone determines the mood of what's really going on. Whenever it comes time to poll voting, those displeased or riddled with issues can never muster up the numbers to truely reflect the what's really going on. Also the excuse of oh people returned tablet n moved on is b.s. they mostly all still here watching and posting here. Seen tons that "Supposedly" returned device for good or "Done" with forums yet they hang around to make sure to try to bash. Lol its all funny actually but very obvious.
The Delphi effect will always determines what's really going on within a mass or group. Poll votes show only on the surface, front page general news, may look bad, but overall its a completely different story and complete opposite of what's it seeming like.
If you don't know what the Delphi effect means, look it up. Then all this will start to make sense on what's really going on.
clap your hands y'all, it's alright.
I have four Android tablets and sold off the fifth. My Prime is the best of the lot. It is not perfect, but the best.
Bye.
Love it and Keeping it....even if I have been bitten by the last update....I have confidence that ASUS will resolve the issues, its a new device on new software....its prime (pun intended) for issues.....but the sheer power of this device is awesome...and am a proud to own this beast.
I Like the style on mine personally that's about it. It works real good if I sit right beside my router and use it. Probably going to take it back, I love the design though I just wish my WiFi was better, then I would keep it for sure. I might just wait and get the Lenovo Tegra 3 or Samsung Tegra 3 when they come out. I hate to wait though, that's the only thing that will let me keep this is if I fell like I don't want to wait 4-5 months for the other Tegra 3s, but I heard Acer was coming out soon, like in a month or so. Just not a big fan of Acer Tegra 3. I Might get Samsung 8.9 just to hold me over. Its got a dual core 1.4, which will probably overclock close to 2.0GHZ dual core so I'm assuming its runs pretty good.
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About 70% so far like the prime and keeping it. This number will only get higher.
This is all The Delphi effect. The opinion of the masses will have more merit than the opinion of one random chosen person. Sociologists have discovered that and that alone determines the mood of what's really going on. Whenever it comes time to poll voting, those displeased or riddled with issues can never muster up the numbers to truely reflect the what's really going on. Also the excuse of oh people returned tablet n moved on is b.s. they mostly all still here watching and posting here. Seen tons that "Supposedly" returned device for good or "Done" with forums yet they hang around to make sure to try to bash. Lol its all funny actually but very obvious.
The Delphi effect will always determines what's really going on within a mass or group. Poll votes show only on the surface, front page general news, may look bad, but overall its a completely different story and complete opposite of what's it seeming like.
If you don't know what the Delphi effect means, look it up. Then all this will start to make sense on what's really going on.
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You add to your theory here I finally voted in one of these polls. I love my prime and will certainly be keeping it.
Wifi works fine everywhere I have used it having no trouble getting and holding a signal. At home I get 100% throughput of my 6mbps line and the router is in the very corner of my bedroom and I lay on the couch on complete opposite corner. My house is about 1500sqft and single level so it's through a door down the hall and around the corner from me.
Screen is great, two tiny spots of lightbleed on bottom left that is only visible on boot screen, it is utterly invisible during use and if it wasn't I would be returning it as I'm a videophile and it would drive me insane. No dead or stuck pixels either as a single one is unacceptable for me on any of my personally owned devices.
Battery is fine and in fact I haven't charged it in over two days now, granted only used it very lightly due to available time but that is still fantastic. The current charge is still 60% in fact.
I only use bluetooth for transferring small files between the tablet and my phone so haven't been able to test slowing of wifi with bluetooth headphones, and not having any wireless headphones probably won't be anytime soon. I do know it's not detrimental to my wife when I am actively using my sixaxis controller with an app of the same name though as I can still browse net without issue and launch ROMs off a mounted folder from my NAS.
Never had a single reboot or sleep of death either (knock on wood).
Don't know what else I can cover really, but the fact this is the first poll I have voted in and I am happy as I am with it shows some proof of the motivation that those that are happy with it have to actively hunt and vote on these things. I just recently started being louder about my satisfaction due to the extremely repetitive nature of a handful of negative posters.
My battery is draining faster after the most recent OTA and I've experienced a couple of lockups over the past week but not enough to make me want to return. I feel like these minor issues will be ironed out by Asus in the next OTA. Hopefully something else won't break, lol.
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My battery is draining faster after the most recent OTA and I've experienced a couple of lockups over the past week but not enough to make me want to return. I feel like these minor issues will be ironed out by Asus in the next OTA. Hopefully something else won't break, lol.
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As I look at my prime I just noticed a little issue that was fixed in the latest OTA. In the stock weather widget it was showing %% and is now showing %. That to me was a tiny issue...and guess what....they fixed it. So something like battery drain will get fixed. ASUS is known for fast responses to their customers. I am not worried about it...they will fix it.
I've waited, toyed with the idea, tried to sell it to myself and am now, I think almost ready to take the plunge.
Here is my worry after spending an hour in these forums.
Would I be buying a dud? Is the prime that bad hardware wise and littered with problems that I'd be wasting my money.
Do you think / know if the GPS Wifi and BT issues are likely to get fixed or have they improved.
I'd really really appreciate any advice people can give me, stock is limited in the uk and add to that the horror stories of rma's etc I want to make sure im making the right decision.
Thank you so much
Chris
The percentage chance that you have a crippling issue is slim. It's more likely that you get a device and love it. The simple thing here is make sure you can return the device if you don't like it or have issues. Don't buy it from a place that won't take it back once you've opened it.
As far as GPS, that likely won't have a permanent fix from the software side.
Just my 2 cents.
I bought my prime about a week ago, I honestly do not know what problem these people are having. I did not read about any hardware problems with wifi/GPS until after I bought two primes (one for me and one for wife). So I checked further and I do not experience any problems that are described here. Wifi is great no matter where I am and GPS is actually a lot better and much quicker to activate than my sprint epic touch phone. Believe me I was worried that I would have to take them back and settle for older technology or *cough* the iPad. Not sure, maybe they corrected it by the time I bought mine because both of mine work great, so I am happy for that
I am very happy with the prime and would easily recommend it to anyone.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
In the UK we have the distant sellers act (think its called that) where you can return and item (opened or not) within seven days.
I figure thats a good enough chance for me to test it without worry
Any more answers welcome btw !!!
Cheers again
Chris
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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
In the UK we have the distant sellers act (think its called that) where you can return and item (opened or not) within seven days.
I figure thats a good enough chance for me to test it without worry
Any more answers welcome btw !!!
Cheers again
Chris
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Don't forget to hit that "Thanks" button for posts that you really want to thank people for.
You'll never know until you try
I got my Prime in mid-January and aside from the GPS not being great I haven't had a single issue with it. It works perfectly for everything I have tried to do with it (watch videos, browse internet, light office work, playing games, etc).
GPS will never be fixed to the point where you can rely on it for navigation away from a WiFi source. There are very good reasons why Asus removed GPS from the official features list. If you can accept only rough positioning for apps like weather and location assisted searches you most likely not have any issues with the Prime at all.
I'm on my third Prime. First two had GPS/WiFi issues, one had bad screen bleed.
Picked up this one last Friday. GPS works very good. Not as good as my Samsung Infuse, but good enough. Tested it last night on the road for 30 minutes. Only at one point the GPS showed me one street over, but corrected itself in a minute or two. (Don't intend on using it for navigation, but wanted to see how good accurate the GPS was.)
WiFi is good and no screen bleed. I would say Asus fixed their QC issues with the C2 serial numbers, but other C2 owners say they have no GPS. Luck of the draw I suppose.
I think i'll certainly give it a go. GPS isnt a massive deal, obviously for location based searches it would be helpful but im not planning as using it as a sat nav
wifi and bt are the bigger issues of the 3
I have mine since almost a month now (C1 serial). This device is about the best thing i ever bought.
It does all i want, it's not too heavy, looks beautiful and everything is just smooth and works amazing.
Now it all depends on what you plan to use it for. If you use it primarily as a GPS device in your car, dont buy it. It'll suck for that. Dont get me wrong the GPS works, and i get a lock in under a minute, but i wouldn't want to depend on it.
Asus is very good with updates so far (and was also with the original Transformer) so i'm sure they will optimize the **** out the TF201. WIFI already got stronger for me with the patch that got released this week (didnt have issues before but now i have more bars).
But if you want a device for your basic IT stuff, browsing, games, movies, forums, emails etcetc. This is an amazing product. Go for it.
Of course there is always a chance that you get a bad unit. Its always like this when you buy a brand new high tech product. Really doesnt matter which company, Apple, Samsung... But that shouldnt prevent you from getting this sexy little thing The Prime is already very good and it will only get better through software updates.
thanks again everyone think im gonna take the plunge will report back
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gsusx said:
I've waited, toyed with the idea, tried to sell it to myself and am now, I think almost ready to take the plunge.
Here is my worry after spending an hour in these forums.
Would I be buying a dud? Is the prime that bad hardware wise and littered with problems that I'd be wasting my money.
Do you think / know if the GPS Wifi and BT issues are likely to get fixed or have they improved.
I'd really really appreciate any advice people can give me, stock is limited in the uk and add to that the horror stories of rma's etc I want to make sure im making the right decision.
Thank you so much
Chris
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You should ask this question again in the refund thread.
So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
Ctanferno22 said:
So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
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Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
What people should do instead of posting this kind of thing here is send Asus an email.
I'm not saying the email wouldn't just vanish into the ether, but complaining to other users isn't going to accomplish anything.
If you're unhappy, email Asus and let them know.
paddycr said:
Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
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GET OUT! NOBODY HAS COME UP WITH THIS YET! ALL HANDS ON DECK! GET THIS GUY AN AWARD FOR ALERTING THE XDA COMMUNITY!
you are a noob. Nobody like to be a noob, but you are one anyway. and the first rule of noob-age is to search and read. Second rule of noob-age is that after you search and find a thread that is similar to your problem, post it there. There are so many complaint threads, we've had the mods closing them left and right. Thank you for creating another one and proving that people don't search or read, they just spew onto xda. We appreciate your well thought out, yet redundant post that has already been extremely well documented issues in other threads.
/flame
And we are 2...****ing tablet. I hate asus
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Can I just roll out this tired old phrase before someone else does...cool story bro...yawn
I think 95% of people on this forum are tired of these threads appearing. Why didn't you post your comments in a thread like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084
I presume your intent was to start a flame war. Enjoy it while it lasts. I hope the mods put this thread out of its misery ASAP
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The problem with the first post of that thread is there's nothing about the lag/browser/io.
You should of RMA it before you unlocked for WIFI.
I have 2 primes, Unlocked and running AKOP
I must say i disagree with everything you say. My tablet is FIRE
Speed is nuts.
Now all we need is a win8 port =)
What kind of customization are you looking for exactly? I do most of mine through widgets, apps, launchers, and live wallpapers, which are mostly rom independent (except the cornerstone roms, which can't use live wallpapers)
And the kernel you use can also affect your wifi experiences.
Try installing Ad Free, it will make your browsing experience much smoother
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree
David522d said:
You should of RMA it before you unlocked for WIFI.
I have 2 primes, Unlocked and running AKOP
I must say i disagree with everything you say. My tablet is FIRE
Speed is nuts.
Now all we need is a win8 port =)
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i agree for one part: aopk is realy snappy. but stock based (androwook) owns it by far in terms of stability and battery life.
we need best of 2 worlds.
in both cases extremely bad IO write speed which causes slowdowns and queueing. this is realy a bugger, hope its fixable.
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
jrkart99 said:
GET OUT! NOBODY HAS COME UP WITH THIS YET! ALL HANDS ON DECK! GET THIS GUY AN AWARD FOR ALERTING THE XDA COMMUNITY!
you are a noob. Nobody like to be a noob, but you are one anyway. and the first rule of noob-age is to search and read. Second rule of noob-age is that after you search and find a thread that is similar to your problem, post it there. There are so many complaint threads, we've had the mods closing them left and right. Thank you for creating another one and proving that people don't search or read, they just spew onto xda. We appreciate your well thought out, yet redundant post that has already been extremely well documented issues in other threads.
/flame
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Ya, a noob that claims to have done months of research on the Prime before deciding to buy one. If you did all that research wouldn't you have known about the problems some have experienced? What we have here is an iFan troll IMHO. See how the topic eventually got to mentioning the iPad.
If I was still in the return window , this is just me my honest opinion is just return it and wait on something better , plenty of options coming up. I don't have the browser or lag problems some people have but the wifi/BT problem absolutely ticks me off, GPS was dead on mine out the box and Asus screwed up its initial dongle shipments I had to have 75 other people post in a thread before getting any response from people at corporate about it to have them send me another one. Its a great looking tablet but QC on these things is just terrible and my opinion the company isnt much better (shame on Google for going with Asus for the Nexus tablet that really irks me too), TF201 will be last Asus product I buy, you either get one thats great or one with some issue
Ctanferno22 said:
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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See my post previous post about improving your web browsing experience.
We probably have different expectations, because I'm running a stock based rom as my daily driver and honestly I'm overall very happy with the experience. I don't use the stock web browser, so maybe that may be the difference, or not.
I also don't seem to notice much lag from switching between apps... then again I'm also not watching lag like a hawk either, so if it does exist, it's not enough for me to take notice.
Lastly, if you put yourself out there then just be ready for the flames to come out. It's probably true that this forum seems to have a higher ratio of trolls though... I guess some people really take this stuff too seriously. But if you let their comments get to you then they have won...
Ctanferno22 said:
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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Im new to Tabs but been runnin all kinds of Custom Roms GB and ICS on my 4G Sprint Touch here @ XDA...Mines overclocked at 1.6 and Smokes...I found out the best way to improve it was to read a lotta threads and get different ideas on what to run...
Just like here Ive read a lot of threads ran about 5 different roms with overclocked kernels up to 1.8...My Prime also smokes...from videos to music... movies... you name it...don't notice any lag...Im runnin Wookies Prime 1.0 ...quadrants of 5200-5900 @ performance...Gummys is Super Fast as well...but to me Wooks is more stable...Im more than satisfied the way I set mine up...So just read a bit on here ...set it up the right way and Im sure you'll luv it....
And I think a lotta members on here are more than willing to help...Of course Im unlocked and rooted...Bricked it the first day...But with the help from here...got back up and runnin in about an hour... haven't had a problem since...
Ctanferno22 said:
I realize all some of the things I mentioned have been talked about before, the reason I posted was to see if there was something out there that I was missing that would improve my experience. All you trolls do is look for people to flame. If you really want to contribute to the community how about you help someone out that just spent $500 on a tablet that doesn't deliver what it said it would. So thanks trolls for encouraging me to return this tablet even more. Great community, real helpful. At least the people in the E4GT threads try to do something about the problems they find with their device, instead of just flaming people
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I am sorry that the Prime isn't all you were expecting it to be. I am glad you did months of research before posting here, however had you done so you would have noticed three things for sure:
Many people have the same issues as you, and there are threads already addressing the specific issues you mention.
We just had a major ****-storm on this forum over the massive number of duplicate posts talking about the same issues and problems.
Starting threads that are duplicates of topics that already exist on the forum is a "no-no" according to XDA forum rules.
Again I am sorry that the Prime doesn't meet your needs, and I am very sorry for some of the replies you have gotten in this thread. All I can say is people are a little more sensitive to duplicate posts, especially ones that complain without offering any possible solutions to the problems that are the source of the complaint.
If your Prime didn't met your needs you should have returned it to the store before voiding your warranty trying to fix the problem. You still might want to give this a try, or try exchanging it for another Prime and tell them that WiFi isn't working properly as it is an issue most retailers know about. Most retail locations won't check a device to see if its bootloader has been unlocked.
Also if your problem is specifically with Wifi performance, or at least, you phrase it that way to Asus, there is a good chance they will still allow you to RMA the Prime as they have done so for several other people on the forum.
Is not your xda here....
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Ctanferno22 said:
So after a couple of months of research, i decided to go ahead and spend $500 for a new Transformer Prime, thinking it was the coolest and fastest tablet out there. The fact that it runs android and that i can root it and load custom roms on it was just an added bonus. I've had an E4GT for about six months now, so im very familiar with the android community.
However, after about a week with this tablet, im very disappointed. wifi, to be quite honest, sucks, the stock browser locks up for no reason all the time, the whole pad gets really hot when i simply watch a movie on netflix with the brightness turned all the way down. Multi-tasking is terrible, switching from facebook to USA Today to twitter is completely laggy. i bought this tablet as something to use instead of lugging my laptop all around the house with me, but to be honest, id rather sit on my laptop if it meant i didnt have to wait 30 seconds to a minute just for the XDA site to load. for this tablet being a quad core, it runs slower than my dual core phone. battery life also, has seemed to be an issue. one movie on netflix over a very stable wifi with brightness turned all the way down will run out my whole battery. also ive tried a few games, since its advertised as a tegra 3 gaming tablet, and games such as GTA and NOVA arent even very good, frame rate is slow and laggy.
Another thing that i was disappointed with were the number of roms/kernels/tweaks i could do to the machine. now im not trying to discredit the devs, i know they do a TON of work on the roms and such that are out there, so dont flame me, however ive found that even most of the custom roms for our TFP dont really come with alot of custom options, unless you go with CM9 or AOKP.
my mom just bought a new ipad, and i know i know its apple they such blahh blahh and yes, the lack of customizability would absolutely drive me insane, but the browser is wicked fast, the battery life is incredible, and switching between apps is completely seamless. everything youd expect from a $500 tablet
now right now i am running the latest version of AOKP, and the above is all of the things that i keep running into. however, i have run multiple stock and custom roms, and they all seemed to give me the same problems. if the problems im running into are rom based, then please by all means point me in the right direction. i certainly do not know everything about android.
sorry this post is long, but i dont know what im going to do, i definitely not happy with my prime, but when it comes down to the specs, its the best tablet on the market. i guess if in a week or two im still not happy with it ill return it, but if theres anything any of you know that will spark a new love for my prime, id greatly appreciate it.
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I have flashed every ROM that exists for the Prime, and all have their own minor issues.
For my Prime, I have to say the new Androwook Prime custom ROM is the best there is.
If you haven't tried it yet, do it... you have nothing to lose but a few minutes of your time.
Just go read the (95% positive) feedback and you'll want to try it.... it's got freakin Sony Bravia engine in it man It is the fastest ROM I've ever run, super stable, no browser lag or not responding messages, and the WiFi is great. I do like AOKP and Gummy but WiFi sucks on my Prime with those ROMS.
Give it a shot man... come back tonight and let me know how it worked out for ya.
Oh, BTW... after installing Androwook, I got an app called GMD GestureControl... wow it's amazing. Ceck into that too... in love with my Prime even more than ever.
almightywhacko said:
I am sorry that the Prime isn't all you were expecting it to be. I am glad you did months of research before posting here, however had you done so you would have noticed three things for sure:
Many people have the same issues as you, and there are threads already addressing the specific issues you mention.
We just had a major ****-storm on this forum over the massive number of duplicate posts talking about the same issues and problems.
Starting threads that are duplicates of topics that already exist on the forum is a "no-no" according to XDA forum rules
Again I am sorry that the Prime doesn't meet your needs, and I am very sorry for some of the replies you have gotten in this thread. All I can say is people are a little more sensitive to duplicate posts, especially ones that complain without offering any possible solutions to the problems that are the source of the complaint.
If your Prime didn't met your needs you should have returned it to the store before voiding your warranty trying to fix the problem. You still might want to give this a try, or try exchanging it for another Prime and tell them that WiFi isn't working properly as it is an issue most retailers know about. Most retail locations won't check a device to see if its bootloader has been unlocked.
Also if your problem is specifically with Wifi performance, or at least, you phrase it that way to Asus, there is a good chance they will still allow you to RMA the Prime as they have done so for several other people on the forum.
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I agree with this 100%
@OP don't take none of the remarks personal. I feel your gripes. Its just that EVERYONE is really frustrated. Especially on duplicate complaint threads. the reason for that is because most are posted just complaining without trying to find a solution or answer to the problem. I know it wasn't this in your case, but just saying in general. People in the Prime forum are actually very helpful and like the other forum you described. Everyone is on edge with this device. We have primes that work great and people satisfied with them & then we have people with primes that have issues and are unhappy. So don't take the flaming remarks to heart.
Try that rom like jaycustom said, since you are unlocked. if your main gripe is wifi, just call Asus and see what they can do. you never know, they might just go on and fix your device although its unlocked. people have had success with that route.
good luck on finding a solution and don't be discouraged.
thank you hairdewx and jaycustom for actually responding with something useful. the reason i posted was to learn. learn more about the device i have and how to set it up the right way to get the results i want. i like the androwook custom rom, but i really like the toggles of AOKP, i use them ALOT. i will try your suggestions and see what i can find out. i tried to use the custom build prop in the development section, but everytime i do it and follow the directions it wont boot past the asus screen. maybe im doing it wrong and i will try it again. thanks again to those of you that actually made an effort to try and help me. my post was not to *****, but yet make the best with what i had.
Love my Prime. Running Virtuous Rom and it is seemless. I have the latest build (serial # starting with C4) so I dont know if they have fixed up the wifi/GPS issues in this build but it is great.
I too am noob and did a fair bit of searching before I purchased (2 weeks ago). I was aware of the GPS/Wifi issues but had read that the new dongle fixed that but hadn't read much about lag or any other problems. All the reviews I read were extremely glowing of the tablet and most ranked their #1. Anyway I suppose I was lucky to get one that works perfectly.
Does anyone know if C4 build has all issues ironed out now? it would be great if it does but Asus should replace tab for those that are extremely unhappy.
Once again, Love my Prime!!!!!
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