Hi guys,
I'm debating if I should flash Hyperdrive RLS 14 on my stock slot in safestrap. Would I still flash the modules (I have mk2 )? Also, what would I flash in odin just in case if I encounter some problem? Would I flash the no wipe image or the full wipe image of the stock mk2?
Anndddd! last question... can you restore a backup of a rom slot 1 onto the stock slot?
Raymondlikesroot said:
Hi guys,
I'm debating if I should flash Hyperdrive RLS 14 on my stock slot in safestrap. Would I still flash the modules (I have mk2 )? Also, what would I flash in odin just in case if I encounter some problem? Would I flash the no wipe image or the full wipe image of the stock mk2?
Anndddd! last question... can you restore a backup of a rom slot 1 onto the stock slot?
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I don't think you need to flash the kernel modules if you live dangerously and flash over the stock slot. However, it can't hurt to flash the MK2 modules. They're tiny, after all.
If you have problems, you may be able to fix it with a no-wipe. Otherwise, full-wipe will get it back.
If I were you, I'd download them both and verify MD5 sums before flashing over the stock slot. Then it's pretty easy to get something functional back.
Yes, Safestrap will let you flash a backup of slot one over stock. Will it work? Dunno. If you try it, please let us know. :fingers-crossed:
k1mu said:
I don't think you need to flash the kernel modules if you live dangerously and flash over the stock slot. However, it can't hurt to flash the MK2 modules. They're tiny, after all.
If you have problems, you may be able to fix it with a no-wipe. Otherwise, full-wipe will get it back.
If I were you, I'd download them both and verify MD5 sums before flashing over the stock slot. Then it's pretty easy to get something functional back.
Yes, Safestrap will let you flash a backup of slot one over stock. Will it work? Dunno. If you try it, please let us know. :fingers-crossed:
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For what it's worth, I've flashed Hyperdrive to the stock slot with no trouble at all. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one to do so.
douger1957 said:
For what it's worth, I've flashed Hyperdrive to the stock slot with no trouble at all. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one to do so.
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Yes, it'll probably work. For the kind of people who ask this - given how often it's been already asked and answered - it's better to recommend that they spend the time to understand the risk.
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I ran a quick search and did not find the answer (and frankly as a busy student I don't have time to read through 97 pages of threads). Is it possible/advisable to...
1) install safestrap
2) WIPE STOCK ROM?
3) install Hyperdrive or other custom rom (compatible with safestrap)
4) AND USE ALL OF THE INTERNAL MEMORY FOR SAID CUSTOM ROM?
If possible what would be the issues if any resulting from doing this?
Install safestrap. Create a new Rom Slot 1 don't wipe stock ever!! Once Rom Slot 1 is created with atleast 2GB worth of space it will be activated then flash Hyper drive and the ME7 module then you should be golden
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Maybe I don't fully understand what the 2GB worth of space is used for... does this mean that for the Hyperdrive slot I will only have 1/8 of the phones 16GB for the rom, apps and other stuff or is that just for the rom and apps/etc will still have the rest of the memory to use?
theshadles said:
I ran a quick search and did not find the answer (and frankly as a busy student I don't have time to read through 97 pages of threads). Is it possible/advisable to...
1) install safestrap
2) WIPE STOCK ROM?
3) install Hyperdrive or other custom rom (compatible with safestrap)
4) AND USE ALL OF THE INTERNAL MEMORY FOR SAID CUSTOM ROM?
If possible what would be the issues if any resulting from doing this?
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While I will say you can easily brick your device doing this, I had ODIN ready in case I needed it, and I went ahead and did just this. I installed SafeStrap, wiped cache/dalvik/system, and went ahead and flashed Hyperdrive and the modules fix into the stock ROM slot.
While it is not advisable to do this, my phone has been operating FLAWLESSLY ever since I did this. I have not had a single issue and everything works perfect paired with the stock kernel. I am enjoying Hyperdrive while still having all of my storage. I have had to Odin before so I was prepared to just in case flashing went wrong.
Again, most people will advice against this, but .... it does work.
The possible brick sounds spooky to me but how is the space per slot allocated? Does 2GB mean as far as that slot is concerned the phone only has 2GB internal space to use for the rom and all other data (apps and stuff). Or is it just 2GB for rom only and the other data can fill the rest of the space. (Is it like partitioning a drive for a dual boot on a computer only you can't access the data on the other partitions?)
roboots21 said:
While I will say you can easily brick your device doing this, I had ODIN ready in case I needed it, and I went ahead and did just this. I installed SafeStrap, wiped cache/dalvik/system, and went ahead and flashed Hyperdrive and the modules fix into the stock ROM slot.
While it is not advisable to do this, my phone has been operating FLAWLESSLY ever since I did this. I have not had a single issue and everything works perfect paired with the stock kernel. I am enjoying Hyperdrive while still having all of my storage. I have had to Odin before so I was prepared to just in case flashing went wrong.
Again, most people will advice against this, but .... it does work.
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I just did this on my Verizon Note 3 SM900V Android version 4.3 with Kernel 3.4.0 and Baseband version N900VVRUBMJE with Hardware version N900V.07 but please excuse the ignorance. What modules fix? Where do I find this modules fix? Is there a special version that I will need for my specs? It seems to be working fine without it so is this a must have? Thank you!
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I ran a quick search and did not find the answer (and frankly as a busy student I don't have time to read through 97 pages of threads). Is it possible/advisable to...
1) install safestrap
2) WIPE STOCK ROM?
3) install Hyperdrive or other custom rom (compatible with safestrap)
4) AND USE ALL OF THE INTERNAL MEMORY FOR SAID CUSTOM ROM?
If possible what would be the issues if any resulting from doing this?
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It is possible to flash over the stock ROM using Safestrap. It's then no longer safe, so if that ROM fails to boot, you must use Odin to restore a factory ROM to recover. That's the concern: if anything goes wrong, then you're going to be in emergency recovery mode.
Also note that flashing over the stock ROM isn't supported.
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whitelion411 said:
I just did this on my Verizon Note 3 SM900V Android version 4.3 with Kernel 3.4.0 and Baseband version N900VVRUBMJE with Hardware version N900V.07 but please excuse the ignorance. What modules fix? Where do I find this modules fix? Is there a special version that I will need for my specs? It seems to be working fine without it so is this a must have? Thank you!
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If you flash over the stock ROM, then the kernel modules are still there. Without those modules, things like WiFi won't work.
k1mu said:
It is possible to flash over the stock ROM using Safestrap. It's then no longer safe, so if that ROM fails to boot, you must use Odin to restore a factory ROM to recover. That's the concern: if anything goes wrong, then you're going to be in emergency recovery mode.
Also note that flashing over the stock ROM isn't supported.
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If you flash over the stock ROM, then the kernel modules are still there. Without those modules, things like WiFi won't work.
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Oh ok so there really isn't anything extra I have to do then right? The member above stated that he flashed his rom over the stock rom and installed the modules fix so that had me thinking I had another step to go. So far all is working great and if something does go wrong I do have Odin and I even backed up the stock rom to be safe.
whitelion411 said:
Oh ok so there really isn't anything extra I have to do then right? The member above stated that he flashed his rom over the stock rom and installed the modules fix so that had me thinking I had another step to go. So far all is working great and if something does go wrong I do have Odin and I even backed up the stock rom to be safe.
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You should be good. And yea if something goes wrong while on that stock slot usually Odin is the only way to.
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theshadles said:
I ran a quick search and did not find the answer (and frankly as a busy student I don't have time to read through 97 pages of threads). Is it possible/advisable to...
1) install safestrap
2) WIPE STOCK ROM?
3) install Hyperdrive or other custom rom (compatible with safestrap)
4) AND USE ALL OF THE INTERNAL MEMORY FOR SAID CUSTOM ROM?
If possible what would be the issues if any resulting from doing this?
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It's probably not the safest thing to do. What I would recommend, if you feel like you must try it (and I recommend that you not), is install safestrap. Install hyperdrive in the first free slot. Verify that it works. Then, if you really want to, install hyperdrive on the stock rom slot. Verify that it works. Then, if you really must, you can erase the other slot.
GeneralBelisarius said:
It's probably not the safest thing to do. What I would recommend, if you feel like you must try it (and I recommend that you not), is install safestrap. Install hyperdrive in the first free slot. Verify that it works. Then, if you really want to, install hyperdrive on the stock rom slot. Verify that it works. Then, if you really must, you can erase the other slot.
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Okay, but what do you do if you can't create a rom slot? That's the problem I have so I may be forced to install over the stock rom if I want to use a custom rom.
fdrennon said:
Okay, but what do you do if you can't create a rom slot? That's the problem I have so I may be forced to install over the stock rom if I want to use a custom rom.
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This thread is from awhile ago, if you're on 4.4 you can't use rom slots on Verizon with safestrap 3.72, you just have to take the risk and use odin or a backup to get your phone working again
I have a MJ7 build rooted did TB forze apps and have safestrap installed running hyperdrive but I would like to go back to stock would the odin file in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209 take me back to stock just by running in odin and not doing anything else to my phone i dont care if i lose all my apps etc
enfurnic said:
I have a MJ7 build rooted did TB forze apps and have safestrap installed running hyperdrive but I would like to go back to stock would the odin file in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209 take me back to stock just by running in odin and not doing anything else to my phone i dont care if i lose all my apps etc
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Yes.
If you flashed into a slot (i.e. you didn't flash over the stock ROM):
Uninstall safestrap, which will remove the hyperdrive slot.
Flash the no-wipe image from that thread.
If you flashed over the stock, flash the emergency recovery. No-wipe may work as well.
does the emergency just take it back to oem? cause that is where i want to take it basically so when i sell it its like its out of the box to the buyer
enfurnic said:
does the emergency just take it back to oem? cause that is where i want to take it basically so when i sell it its like its out of the box to the buyer
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Full wipe will remove all data and return to out-of-the box, just like it says in the thread you quoted.
Carrier: Verizon
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4 (MK2)
Custom ROM: Hyperdrive ROM
Phone is rooted, and Safestrap is installed and working flawlessly
I see this question posted all the time, but I'm reading a lot of conflicting information. As I've been searching around the net for a solid (and up-to-date) answer, I was wondering if there was a definitive answer to the following question:
Can I flash a custom ROM to the stock slot using Safestrap, remove the stock ROM from the phone, and keep the backup on my PC for later restoration?
I would assume that I should do the following:
1) Make a backup of the stock ROM (using Safestrap)
2) Wipe the Stock slot
3) Install/Restore custom ROM to the Stock slot
Am I correct in assuming this?
If there are any issues, I'd love to hear why. I'm still trying to figure out all the info. If there are any benefits/drawbacks, I'd also love to hear those. I'd consider myself a "conservative" user. I do nothing with themes and major modifications.
Thank you for any advice!
I apologize if this question has been answered elsewhere.
That works just fine and many people already have. AT&T people are in the same boat and do it too.
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DeadlySin9 said:
That works just fine and many people already have. AT&T people are in the same boat and do it too.
Sent from Black<3's I337 running Foxhound ROM
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Thank you for the information.
remainnameless said:
Thank you for the information.
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Just make sure you have the Odin tar file for your phone just in case something goes wrong. Me and a few others ran into some issues messing with the stock slot. Good idea to have that anyways.
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Just in case someone comes across this in the future:
Everything worked as planned. No issues to report.
But doesn't this entirely contradict what the website says?
On the How-To Safestrap site:
Install: This is for flashing a .zip file to the currently active system. Currently, this is disabled for the stock system. In a future release I will enable flashing to the stock system.
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And yet people are wiping and flashing to stock fine?
Cool, I will try that
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DaGamer12345 said:
But doesn't this entirely contradict what the website says?
On the How-To Safestrap site:
And yet people are wiping and flashing to stock fine?
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Hashcode didn't support flashing to the stock slot when I used SafeStrap. You could do it, but if you ran into problems you were not to expect any help from him.
Now whether or not he disabled that option completely in newer versions of SafeStrap I'm not really sure since I'm on an mdk S4 now.
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Mistertac said:
Hashcode didn't support flashing to the stock slot when I used SafeStrap. You could do it, but if you ran into problems you were not to expect any help from him.
Now whether or not he disabled that option completely in newer versions of SafeStrap I'm not really sure since I'm on an mdk S4 now.
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reason why its called safestrap...and has saved me many times able to get back to my stock rom slot...but we all have our own levels of risk but hashcode made safestrap the way he did for a reason.
I run 3 roms on my S4 and have no issues with memory limitations
So then this is a yes on flashing to stock? Thinking about flashing a SS rom, but not sure how it goes.
I assume I would flash the kernel modules as you have to do that with every custom rom.
If Safestrap lives on the stock system, how does it stay after you wipe? It stays on an unwipe-able area? Because it can't stay on recovery, can it?
If anything goes wrong, I could just flash the MK2 stock with Odin, correct? It wouldn't trip KNOX flag to 0x1?
Out of curiosity, if an OTA was available for stock MK2, and I had it as a custom rom, it would brick the phone or what would happen?
In Titanium Backup, you DON'T restore all the system apps, and only the user apps when migrating roms?
This would be my first time wiping/flashing a rom over the system (and not just over a rom slot), so I'm nervous as almost all people new to this sort of thing.
DaGamer12345 said:
So then this is a yes on flashing to stock? Thinking about flashing a SS rom, but not sure how it goes.
I assume I would flash the kernel modules as you have to do that with every custom rom.
If Safestrap lives on the stock system, how does it stay after you wipe? It stays on an unwipe-able area? Because it can't stay on recovery, can it?
If anything goes wrong, I could just flash the MK2 stock with Odin, correct? It wouldn't trip KNOX flag to 0x1?
Out of curiosity, if an OTA was available for stock MK2, and I had it as a custom rom, it would brick the phone or what would happen?
In Titanium Backup, you DON'T restore all the system apps, and only the user apps when migrating roms?
This would be my first time wiping/flashing a rom over the system (and not just over a rom slot), so I'm nervous as almost all people new to this sort of thing.
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Well, you're asking a lot of questions that have been already answered, so here's some quick answers.
1. Flashing the modules won't hurt.
2. Safestrap lives in separate directory on your internal storage. As long as you don't wipe the internal storage, it'll still be there. However, if you flash a stock ROM into the stock slot, then Safestrap won't be run during boot and can't be activated.
3. Yes, you can always flash an OEM stock ROM. Factory images from Samsung won't set the Knox Warranty Void flag. This does NOT mean that you can downgrade to an earlier release.
4. OTAs won't brick the phone - they'll fail if you have modified anything that the OTA will be patching.
5. You should only restore user apps and data. You must have the restorecon fix for that to work. Restoring system apps is pretty risky.
None of these are new questions or new answers. Yes, there's a lot to read here, but you really need to spend the time.
k1mu said:
Well, you're asking a lot of questions that have been already answered, so here's some quick answers.
1. Flashing the modules won't hurt.
2. Safestrap lives in separate directory on your internal storage. As long as you don't wipe the internal storage, it'll still be there. However, if you flash a stock ROM into the stock slot, then Safestrap won't be run during boot and can't be activated.
3. Yes, you can always flash an OEM stock ROM. Factory images from Samsung won't set the Knox Warranty Void flag. This does NOT mean that you can downgrade to an earlier release.
4. OTAs won't brick the phone - they'll fail if you have modified anything that the OTA will be patching.
5. You should only restore user apps and data. You must have the restorecon fix for that to work. Restoring system apps is pretty risky.
None of these are new questions or new answers. Yes, there's a lot to read here, but you really need to spend the time.
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Oh I remember you! You made the Saferoot method I used. Sorry for asking some dumb questions, I just wanted verification for 1, 3, and 4. I'll have to search for the restorecon fix. I'll be flashing Eclipse because I was only looking for an AOSP experience and Hyperdrive has more than I need (leading to larger rom size). The rom is going to go through a big update sometime this weekend so I'll wait for the update.
DaGamer12345 said:
Oh I remember you! You made the Saferoot method I used. Sorry for asking some dumb questions, I just wanted verification for 1, 3, and 4. I'll have to search for the restorecon fix. I'll be flashing Eclipse because I was only looking for an AOSP experience and Hyperdrive has more than I need (leading to larger rom size). The rom is going to go through a big update sometime this weekend so I'll wait for the update.
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Whew. I thought "Oh I remember you" was going to be followed by ".. you're that jerk that... " :laugh:
Have a good weekend.
remainnameless said:
Carrier: Verizon
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4 (MK2)
Custom ROM: Hyperdrive ROM
Phone is rooted, and Safestrap is installed and working flawlessly
I see this question posted all the time, but I'm reading a lot of conflicting information. As I've been searching around the net for a solid (and up-to-date) answer, I was wondering if there was a definitive answer to the following question:
Can I flash a custom ROM to the stock slot using Safestrap, remove the stock ROM from the phone, and keep the backup on my PC for later restoration?
I would assume that I should do the following:
1) Make a backup of the stock ROM (using Safestrap)
2) Wipe the Stock slot
3) Install/Restore custom ROM to the Stock slot
Am I correct in assuming this?
If there are any issues, I'd love to hear why. I'm still trying to figure out all the info. If there are any benefits/drawbacks, I'd also love to hear those. I'd consider myself a "conservative" user. I do nothing with themes and major modifications.
Thank you for any advice!
I apologize if this question has been answered elsewhere.
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I just installed hyperdrive to the stock slot and everything works perfect.
So i have a rooted android galaxy s4 (verizon)NK1 and i installed safetrap trying to install a custom rom, somehow after backing up and rebooting i keep getting this screen that says safetrap disabled with the options , recovery or continue, i think i may have uninstalled my os and the backup is no longer there , ive tried flashing stock recovery and rom but it goes back to the safetrap disabled screen after the samsung Custom screen loads and it just loops if i do nothing...PLEASE HELP!!!
Sir,
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If you have an NK1 S4 from Verizon then the bootloader is locked and there is no reason to try and flash a custom recovery. Safestrap is it for us. Which version of SS are you using? Did you create a Slot 1 while you were in SS? Go back into SS recovery when the screen comes up and see if you can 'activate' slot 1 to see what happens.
I was able to get it working again by flashing my stock files in Odin. I've rooted again and have safestrap installed. Last time I made the mistake of trying to install a custom rom on the stock slot. So I wanna try again. I was thinking of getting hyperdriverls20 but since therearen't any nk1 modules I don't know if it will work. Thanks for your reply as well . Can you confirm if it'll work or what custom roms would work for the nk1 Verizon s4?
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I was able to get it working again by flashing my stock files in Odin. I've rooted again and have safestrap installed. Last time I made the mistake of trying to install a custom rom on the stock slot. So I wanna try again. I was thinking of getting hyperdriverls20 but since therearen't any nk1 modules I don't know if it will work. Thanks for your reply as well . Can you confirm if it'll work or what custom roms would work for the nk1 Verizon s4?
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Best thing to do is it odin back to nc5 then flash away custom roms on safestrap
Pretty new to this. I have a i545vrufnc5 that I successfully rooted and installed safestrap on. I'm trying to install Dirty Unicorns on my phone. It is my understanding that you have to install on the stock rom slot and that you need to wipe the phone before installing. If I have to wipe my phone, how do I install the zip if it's not there post wipe? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've been tinkering all day and am just trying to figure this out.
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Pretty new to this. I have a i545vrufnc5 that I successfully rooted and installed safestrap on. I'm trying to install Dirty Unicorns on my phone. It is my understanding that you have to install on the stock rom slot and that you need to wipe the phone before installing. If I have to wipe my phone, how do I install the zip if it's not there post wipe? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've been tinkering all day and am just trying to figure this out.
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Dirty Unicorns is AOSP/Cynanogenmod based. It WILL NOT WORK AND YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. Look for ROM's that say SAFESTRAP COMPATIBLE, Such as Hyperdrive, KitPop, Eclipse, Goglie's 5.0 port, etc
XxD34THxX said:
Dirty Unicorns is AOSP/Cynanogenmod based. It WILL NOT WORK AND YOU MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. Look for ROM's that say SAFESTRAP COMPATIBLE, Such as Hyperdrive, KitPop, Eclipse, Goglie's 5.0 port, etc
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Thanks! Also though, If i need to wipe the stock rom slot before putting it on, how do I install the zip if it got wiped?
gxnt said:
Thanks! Also though, If i need to wipe the stock rom slot before putting it on, how do I install the zip if it got wiped?
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The ROM goes on the SD card. When wiping, go to advanced wipe and select:
-Dalvik
-Cache
-Data
Then Install any Sammy based ROM. Some come with AROMA installer, some do not. Most may require the flash of modules and SuperSU
XxD34THxX said:
The ROM goes on the SD card. When wiping, go to advanced wipe and select:
-Dalvik
-Cache
-Data
Then Install any Sammy based ROM. Some come with AROMA installer, some do not. Most may require the flash of modules and SuperSU
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I tried to install the GPe edition and followed the instructions. Now I'm stuck in a bootloop (it goes in recovery mode) and factory resetting doesn't work How do I get it working again?
gxnt said:
I tried to install the GPe edition and followed the instructions. Now I'm stuck in a bootloop (it goes in recovery mode) and factory resetting doesn't work How do I get it working again?
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I may be wrong but I don't think the GPE ROM is compatible with SS. Try one of the TouchWiz ROMs first.
AliceBToklas said:
I may be wrong but I don't think the GPE ROM is compatible with SS. Try one of the TouchWiz ROMs first.
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okay, so I followed instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
and I did a full wipe in download mode and returned to stock. I'm getting pretty good at saving my phone.. I've rooted and replaced roms on a few other androids.. Not sure why this one is so hard.
It says the GPE rom is a touchwiz/samsung base so I think I'm doing something wrong.. Pretty sure I'm going to give up and stick with a rooted stock rom, but if anyone has tips, I would maybe try one more time.
The GPe ROM for 5.0.1 says a sammy base but you MUST HAVE MDK. I asked, look at the last posts and on the first page