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So someone mentioned in a thread I read that they were on hboot 1.4 with s-off and they were having issues (that aren't important to the topic of this thread) so they used a 2.08 RUU to return to stock, which flashed hboot 1.5 onto their phone. This person said they checked their bootloader and saw that it was indeed hboot 1.5, then they RUU'd back to an older stock ROM and their bootloader was hboot 1.4.
So, was this workaround for being able to Revolutionary unlock an HTC Evo 3D common knowledge before and it's old news now, or had nobody thought of doing this earlier to get rid of hboot 1.5? I was one of the lucky ones who first got my 3vo less than a month ago, yet it came with hboot 1.3 (now it's on the eng bootloader of course ). so I'm too afraid of losing my revolutionary root to try this myself, but I figured I'd at least put this out there in its own thread so that all you adventurous types stuck with hboot 1.5 can try this out and report your findings.
NOTE: as stated before, I did not try this myself and the person who said they tried this did not prove it to me or anyone else, they merely stated it and since this is the internet, I go by "pics or it didn't happen" if information comes from an untrusted source. I'm not responsible for bricks and impregnation of your daughter(s), and all that other stuff devs usually claim no responsibility for in their disclaimers.
You can change the bootloader if you're s-off, you can't if you're s-on
Twolazyg said:
You can change the bootloader if you're s-off, you can't if you're s-on
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Does that apply even if you're using an RUU? I knew you couldn't change the bootloader if you tried to flash using fastboot, but I didn't remember seeing anything about not being able to through RUU (though I guess I never saw anything that said you could through RUU either...)
w0rdOo said:
Does that apply even if you're using an RUU? I knew you couldn't change the bootloader if you tried to flash using fastboot, but I didn't remember seeing anything about not being able to through RUU (though I guess I never saw anything that said you could through RUU either...)
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yes, you will remain s-off
t3project said:
yes, you will remain s-off
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Well I should've known it was too good to be true, that you could get to an old bootloader through an RUU. Thanks to both of you for the quick and helpful responses.
w0rdOo said:
Well I should've known it was too good to be true, that you could get to an old bootloader through an RUU. Thanks to both of you for the quick and helpful responses.
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sounded like a good idea. would love to get back to hboot 1.40
will it work how does it work and if so how do i do it im stuck with a hboot 1.5 im rooted but s on still
tashsru said:
will it work how does it work and if so how do i do it im stuck with a hboot 1.5 im rooted but s on still
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You are stuck with 1.50 with no changes in sight. At present time you can only change hboot if you are S-off.
Just my luck that Verizon puts this new OTA out the day before I was going to root this thing! It looks to me like we have no option now to root these updated devices. Anyone have any ideas?
therreid said:
Just my luck that Verizon puts this new OTA out the day before I was going to root this thing! It looks to me like we have no option now to root these updated devices. Anyone have any ideas?
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You either need to wait, or try search how to revert the update.
dafuzzbudd said:
You either need to wait, or try search how to revert the update.
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I tried to wipe/factory reset then install stock 2.17.605.2 RUU last night from .exe file. Wouldn't let it load due to updated bootloader. I also tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous unlock experience with Hasoon2000's toolkit without luck as well as running through mdmower's unlock script with attempt to change CID. Also HTCdev just gives me an error now when trying to get a new unlock token... ugh. I'm guessing I probably need root to modify bootloader to revert to old to unlock it... so probably just screwed until someone smarter figures out a way to unlock the new bootloader...
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Also HTCdev just gives me an error now when trying to get a new unlock token... ugh. ..
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Did you make sure your copy and paste to HTC was correct? That was my problem a couple of weeks ago. A single <space> was the culprit for me.
pmcall said:
Did you make sure your copy and paste to HTC was correct? That was my problem a couple of weeks ago. A single <space> was the culprit for me.
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Yes, it was correct; just like other successful times... Did yours unlock after the latest OTA or was it prior to the update?
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I tried to wipe/factory reset then install stock 2.17.605.2 RUU last night from .exe file. Wouldn't let it load due to updated bootloader. I also tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous unlock experience with Hasoon2000's toolkit without luck as well as running through mdmower's unlock script with attempt to change CID. Also HTCdev just gives me an error now when trying to get a new unlock token... ugh. I'm guessing I probably need root to modify bootloader to revert to old to unlock it... so probably just screwed until someone smarter figures out a way to unlock the new bootloader...
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Were you rooted with s-off, or s-on?
dkkunkel said:
I tried to wipe/factory reset then install stock 2.17.605.2 RUU last night from .exe file. Wouldn't let it load due to updated bootloader. I also tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous unlock experience with Hasoon2000's toolkit without luck as well as running through mdmower's unlock script with attempt to change CID. Also HTCdev just gives me an error now when trying to get a new unlock token... ugh. I'm guessing I probably need root to modify bootloader to revert to old to unlock it... so probably just screwed until someone smarter figures out a way to unlock the new bootloader...
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Yes, it was correct; just like other successful times... Did yours unlock after the latest OTA or was it prior to the update?
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Prior to update coming out, I have not installed the OTA.
junkmail9 said:
Were you rooted with s-off, or s-on?
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Rooted, s-on. had avatar nightly installed//had issues with no data service and eventually re-loaded stock RUU with hopes to find a fix (after wiping, clean install, flash/re-flash firmware multiple times) and put avatar back on.... but then the OTA hit and here I am... unable to unlock bootloader.
dkkunkel said:
Rooted, s-on. had avatar nightly installed//had issues with no data service and eventually re-loaded stock RUU with hopes to find a fix (after wiping, clean install, flash/re-flash firmware multiple times) and put avatar back on.... but then the OTA hit and here I am... unable to unlock bootloader.
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Hopefully you at least have data service now. Unless you can manage SuperCID, you might be out of luck for a while. I hope I'm wrong about that.
I am now curious if anyone who is s-off installed the OTA (either accidentally or intentionally) and retained s-off. In theory, if you're s-off you can recover from nearly anything. (I will admit that I have absolutely no desire to try it for myself)
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Hopefully you at least have data service now. Unless you can manage SuperCID, you might be out of luck for a while. I hope I'm wrong about that.
I am now curious if anyone who is s-off installed the OTA (either accidentally or intentionally) and retained s-off. In theory, if you're s-off you can recover from nearly anything. (I will admit that I have absolutely no desire to try it for myself)
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How were you able to get the CID to change? I followed the CID change script manually using temp-root and DD commands through shell with a hex editor and it would NOT change the CID although I was given no errors. Crazy.
stevey500 said:
How were you able to get the CID to change? I followed the CID change script manually using temp-root and DD commands through shell with a hex editor and it would NOT change the CID although I was given no errors. Crazy.
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I used DirtyRacun back on the 2nd OTA to obtain s-off, and DirtyRacun does not require the SuperCID method. I have not done anything with the latest OTA, as it isn't worth the risk to me... I somehow doubt that the DirtyRacun will work with the latest OTA, but I do not recall seeing anyone post that they have tried it, either.
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I used DirtyRacun back on the 2nd OTA to obtain s-off, and DirtyRacun does not require the SuperCID method. I have not done anything with the latest OTA, as it isn't worth the risk to me... I somehow doubt that the DirtyRacun will work with the latest OTA, but I do not recall seeing anyone post that they have tried it, either.
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Ah... I'll go ahead and give it a try. This phone bone-stock is nearly unbearably slow. HTC bloating the hell out of these phone and then locking the bootloaders is a sad marketing scheme.
stevey500 said:
Ah... I'll go ahead and give it a try. This phone bone-stock is nearly unbearably slow. HTC bloating the hell out of these phone and then locking the bootloaders is a sad marketing scheme.
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Anyone figure out if this works?? DirtyRacun after OTA I mean. thanks
join in for the unbelievable ... post2014-OTA [S-OFF] has been achieved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664460
http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_M8_UL_K443_SENSE60_ATT_MR_Cingular_US_2.23.502.3_Radio_1.19.213311491.A22G_20.51A.4198.01L_F_release_387305_signed_2.exe from http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
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http://dl3.htc.com/application/ruu_m8_ul_k443_sense60_att_mr_cingular_us_2.23.502.3_radio_1.19.213311491.a22g_20.51a.4198.01l_f_release_387305_signed_2.exe from http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
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sweet thank you!
Andrew149 said:
sweet thank you!
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you are welcome.
Remember that for the ruu to work you need to relock the bootloader and have stock recovery. and unroot. it works with S-OFF so no need to S-ON
t5620 said:
you are welcome.
Remember that for the ruu to work you need to relock the bootloader and have stock recovery. and unroot. it works with S-OFF so no need to S-ON
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Umm I've never needed to lock my boot loader with s off to ruu 4.4.2. Are you sure?
Andrew149 said:
Umm I've never needed to lock my boot loader with s off to ruu 4.4.2. Are you sure?
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Bootloader lock only needed for s-on.
Wow, same day RUU as the OTA? Unbelievable!
Andrew149 said:
Umm I've never needed to lock my boot loader with s off to ruu 4.4.2. Are you sure?
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I'm not 100% sure.. but ,I always re-lock the bootloader just in case
How can I install this with S-on? Couldn't get S-off because firewater is broken for me.
My phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked. How can I lock the bootloader without S-off?
iArtisan said:
How can I install this with S-on? Couldn't get S-off because firewater is broken for me.
My phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked. How can I lock the bootloader without S-off?
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you could try Sunshine to get S-OFF it cost $25 dollars but it can S-OFF your device.
But I think that you do not need to be s-off to run the RUU, if you want to easily relock the bootloader use tthe HTC One 2014 (M8) All-In-One Toolkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065 its the easiest way
Can I use this to go from Google Play Edition back to stock Sense assuming I change my CID back to AT&T?
I am S-OFF and Bootloader Unlocked and obviously ATT branded.
Yes
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So for the people who been running this ruu for a few weeks have you found any bugs?
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So for the people who been running this ruu for a few weeks have you found any bugs?
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X2. Would like to know as well. Thanks.
Andrew149 said:
So for the people who been running this ruu for a few weeks have you found any bugs?
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no bugs so far but battery life isn't that great as with the last FW although there is no battery drain like with the OTA but I'm not impressed with the battery performance
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I have my phone set up like I want it. Stable, everything works. Running 4.4.2 rooted, unlocked, twrp recovery, etc. All the apps I want. So on and so forth.
Will nandroid backup made now work after I run this ruu? Basically update the os and then recover everything the way I have it set up now?
Sorry for asking what seems, even to me, a basic beginners question.
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I have my phone set up like I want it. Stable, everything works. Running 4.4.2 rooted, unlocked, twrp recovery, etc. All the apps I want. So on and so forth.
Will nandroid backup made now work after I run this ruu? Basically update the os and then recover everything the way I have it set up now?
Sorry for asking what seems, even to me, a basic beginners question.
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In short...No. First off, you can't install the 4.4.3 update if you have a TWRP recovery installed. You have to have the stock recovery in order to do the update. But...for the sake of argument, you did the update and...then re-rooted and restored your nandroid. You would in effect overwrite the update and put yourself back to where you started (if that makes any sense).
My advice would be to install a custom ROM that containes the 4.4.3 update already...or put a stock recovery back on your phone and do the update. There is a nice all-in-one update you can run right off the sdcard using Hboot. I did it and it was flawless.
Either way, you'll most likely be setting up your phone again but that really shouldn't be too bad. Take some screenshots so you will remember just how you had things.
Hope this helps and good luck.
Scott
lostangelintx said:
I have my phone set up like I want it. Stable, everything works. Running 4.4.2 rooted, unlocked, twrp recovery, etc. All the apps I want. So on and so forth.
Will nandroid backup made now work after I run this ruu? Basically update the os and then recover everything the way I have it set up now?
Sorry for asking what seems, even to me, a basic beginners question.
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I have to ask, if you went through all that trouble, why would you ever want to run ATT software? You could have easily converted to Dev Edition and never looked back.
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I have to ask, if you went through all that trouble, why would you ever want to run ATT software? You could have easily converted to Dev Edition and never looked back.
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I can't answer for the OP, but coming from the factory unlocked version and having tried various firmwares and ROMs (including Dev), the ATT RUU is the only one that gives me true LTE speeds.
Scott, could you point me towards that update using Hboot?
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In short...No. First off, you can't install the 4.4.3 update if you have a TWRP recovery installed. You have to have the stock recovery in order to do the update. But...for the sake of argument, you did the update and...then re-rooted and restored your nandroid. You would in effect overwrite the update and put yourself back to where you started (if that makes any sense).
My advice would be to install a custom ROM that containes the 4.4.3 update already...or put a stock recovery back on your phone and do the update. There is a nice all-in-one update you can run right off the sdcard using Hboot. I did it and it was flawless.
Either way, you'll most likely be setting up your phone again but that really shouldn't be too bad. Take some screenshots so you will remember just how you had things.
Hope this helps and good luck.
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Sure thing... Here it is..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/general/att-2-23-502-3-bootable-ruu-pc-required-t2860486
ive spent several hours searching xda for methods of s-off and root. its been a while since ive been on an htc device. heres a little info on my device.
Android version - 4.4.2
htc sense version - 6.0
software number - 3.09.605.2
baseband - 1.36.60.0520
build number - 3.09.605.2 cl333209
t6wl pvt ship s-on rh
hboot - -2.49.0000
radio - 1.36.60.0520
from my understanding, i need to get s-off in order to obtain root right? ive tried several methods. all-in-one tools, firewater, temproot, adb, rumrunner, weaksauce, etc.... nothing is working for me. i noticed there was an app called "sunshine" and it seems like it may be the only way but its $25. i wanted to see if i was doing this correctly or not. am i capable of s-off and root with my software on the device? can someone guide me in the right direction please? thanks
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ive spent several hours searching xda for methods of s-off and root. its been a while since ive been on an htc device. heres a little info on my device.
Android version - 4.4.2
htc sense version - 6.0
software number - 3.09.605.2
baseband - 1.36.60.0520
build number - 3.09.605.2 cl333209
t6wl pvt ship s-on rh
hboot - -2.49.0000
radio - 1.36.60.0520
from my understanding, i need to get s-off in order to obtain root right? ive tried several methods. all-in-one tools, firewater, temproot, adb, rumrunner, weaksauce, etc.... nothing is working for me. i noticed there was an app called "sunshine" and it seems like it may be the only way but its $25. i wanted to see if i was doing this correctly or not. am i capable of s-off and root with my software on the device? can someone guide me in the right direction please? thanks
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If you tried all of the above and didn't get root then yes sunshine is required. That Will turn s off and unlock for you. Then you need to fastboot flash twrp and then flash the latest supersu.zip.
I was hoping that there was another solution besides sunshine. Are there any other devs working on a different method? Just curious though, am I incapable of obtaining s-off on my phone because I'm on 4.4.2
update: im still trying to learn more about why i cant s-off. if i am understanding correctly, since my phone is on 4.4.2, i cannot unlock the bootloader yet. thats why i cant obtain s-off. ive tried with htcdev to unlock the bootloader but thats not working on verizon one max's. is there another way to do so?
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update: im still trying to learn more about why i cant s-off. if i am understanding correctly, since my phone is on 4.4.2, i cannot unlock the bootloader yet. thats why i cant obtain s-off. ive tried with htcdev to unlock the bootloader but thats not working on verizon one max's. is there another way to do so?
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What error did you you get with firewater?
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What error did you you get with firewater?
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I don't remember but from I understand , I can't s-off unless my boot loader is unlocked right?
reebok_I_3 said:
I don't remember but from I understand , I can't s-off unless my boot loader is unlocked right?
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For firewater on vzw you use it to do both. You can't unlock prior.
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For firewater on vzw you use it to do both. You can't unlock prior.
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I'll try it again tonight and I'll let you know the results. Does my firmware have anything to do with me having issues on my attempts?
reebok_I_3 said:
I'll try it again tonight and I'll let you know the results. Does my firmware have anything to do with me having issues on my attempts?
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Yes...iirc you can't be on anything newer than 4.4.2 and if you get a whelp message your phone is a newer hardware variant that won't work.
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Yes...iirc you can't be on anything newer than 4.4.2 and if you get a whelp message your phone is a newer hardware variant that won't work.
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Yeah from what I've been reading, only sunshine can s-off and unlock the boot loader for now. I'm hoping some other dev can come up with a different solution. I don't have a problem paying the $25 to the sunshine developer but I'm a tinkerer. I enjoy tinkering because I get the most out of my phone at no cost. (typically, unless a donation is made.)
flash Viperrom for Verizon then run firewater s-off
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flash Viperrom for Verizon then run firewater s-off
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How would I be able to flash the rom if I can't get s-off and root?
reebok_I_3 said:
Yeah from what I've been reading, only sunshine can s-off and unlock the boot loader for now. I'm hoping some other dev can come up with a different solution. I don't have a problem paying the $25 to the sunshine developer but I'm a tinkerer. I enjoy tinkering because I get the most out of my phone at no cost. (typically, unless a donation is made.)
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I'm not sure how different or not Verizon is to Sprint, but here is a guideline that worked for me when I rooted, s-off, unlocked, and everything else. It is by no means perfect, but you should be able to piece it together from the guideline: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550559
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How would I be able to flash the rom if I can't get s-off and root?
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you dont need s-off to root your device ... s-off is an added privledge to an unlocked bootloader .... 1. Unlock bootloader through HTC dev then you can flash any rom you want ... 2. Recommend to viperrom to get s-off 3. To flash a rom you need to replace your recovery mode from stock to a custome recovery for example clockworkmod or TWRP
I figured since the Max is not getting Lollipop, I might as well finally get around to rooting it so I can tweak it a bit, and maybe put a 5.1 rom on it later. I know the devices bootloader cannot be unlocked using the HTC tool. I tried unlocking and rooting the phone using Rumrunner, but that also failed. I got an odd error stating that the device was not rooted and was running an unsecure kernel. I have tried Googling the question and just came up with Rumrunner. Is there a way to do this? Thanks!
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I figured since the Max is not getting Lollipop, I might as well finally get around to rooting it so I can tweak it a bit, and maybe put a 5.1 rom on it later. I know the devices bootloader cannot be unlocked using the HTC tool. I tried unlocking and rooting the phone using Rumrunner, but that also failed. I got an odd error stating that the device was not rooted and was running an unsecure kernel. I have tried Googling the question and just came up with Rumrunner. Is there a way to do this? Thanks!
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You can use sunshine to unlock boot loader, s-off and root. Cost $25 though. Only way.
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Last night i had to pony up 25 bucks for sunshine to root my insurance replacement.. The ads were driving me crazy
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I'm also looking to do the same thing (upgrade my OS for security reasons mostly). It seems CM is the most supported ROM for the MAX, what's the steps? Sunshine to unlock bootloader, s-OFF, and root? Then install safestrap or whatever ROM manager is needed? Then flash CM to a open slot?
Thanks everybody. I actually installed an app called Weaksauce2 that I read about on this forum. It apparently roots the device at each boot up. Afterwards, I then had the idea to run Rumrunner again. It actually finished without an error, but I am not sure if it did what it was supposed to do! Before I ran Rumrunner again, the device would hang up and restart when I went into the Play Store. It seems to be working now, but you cannot update the Supersu binary.
Did rumrunner unlock your bootloader?
ske1555 said:
Did rumrunner unlock your bootloader?
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I do not know. How can I check?
mikekoz said:
I do not know. How can I check?
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You gotta boot into recovery. You can usually do that by telling it to restart and holding volume down. Then you can see if you have s-OFF and unlocked and all that jazz. You need it to be unlocked to install ROMs
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You gotta boot into recovery. You can usually do that by telling it to restart and holding volume down. Then you can see if you have s-OFF and unlocked and all that jazz. You need it to be unlocked to install ROMs
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Thanks! Will take a look when I get home.
It is still locked and s-on. :crying: I guess I will leave it as it is. It is not worth it to me to spend any money on it right now, so I will skip Sunshine.
Did you try the instructions in this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550559
gatorguy said:
Did you try the instructions in this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550559
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No. That is for the Sprint version of the phone. Mine is Verizon and that unlock utility does not work. I have it rooted using Weaksauce2 and it is doing OK! Not bad for a temp root solution!
The only way I found to perma root was to use Sunshine. Yeah I know it costs $25, but it works and you can unlock bootloader and S-off the phone too.
If anyone is around York, pa I have a java card which will s-off any version of this phone. Well any htc phone for that matter.