I recently installed hyperdrive on my 16GB GS4 with Safestrap, on my stock slot, it says i have 6 gbs available and 6 Misc. files, but on my Hyperdrive slot i have 13 GB of misc files and 1.6 gb left.. I dont use the stock slot so should I wipe it to get some free space?
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High_Rez said:
I recently installed hyperdrive on my 16GB GS4 with Safestrap, on my stock slot, it says i have 6 gbs available and 6 Misc. files, but on my Hyperdrive slot i have 13 GB of misc files and 1.6 gb left.. I dont use the stock slot so should I wipe it to get some free space?
Thanks
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You shouldn't need to wipe your stock slot, not to mention I'm pretty sure things would get screwy if you wiped that then tried to only run on a ROM slot.
There are plenty of people who run 2-3 ROMs + their stock slot.
You just need to make sure everything is being sent to your external SD Card ( you do have one right? )
Go to the play store and grab Disk Usage , it can show you what is taking up all your storage space.
My guess is youre going to just have to erase some things, and move some things. You have to remember, mostly everything defaults to saving to your "SD Card" which is actually just the internal memory.
Also, these phones say they have 16gb internal memory... But its actually more like 9.59gb of usable memory.
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Mistertac said:
You shouldn't need to wipe your stock slot, not to mention I'm pretty sure things would get screwy if you wiped that then tried to only run on a ROM slot.
There are plenty of people who run 2-3 ROMs + their stock slot.
You just need to make sure everything is being sent to your external SD Card ( you do have one right? )
Go to the play store and grab Disk Usage , it can show you what is taking up all your storage space.
My guess is youre going to just have to erase some things, and move some things. You have to remember, mostly everything defaults to saving to your "SD Card" which is actually just the internal memory.
Also, these phones say they have 16gb internal memory... But its actually more like 9.59gb of usable memory.
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Yes I have an SD card but i only have 2 Gbs of storage now. I dont use stock and I have only essential things and apps I use on the only slot I use, I think im going to remove alot of bloatware with titanium backup in the stock slot.
High_Rez said:
Yes I have an SD card but i only have 2 Gbs of storage now. I dont use stock and I have only essential things and apps I use on the only slot I use, I think im going to remove alot of bloatware with titanium backup in the stock slot.
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Well that's one way to help the situation. People certainly do use just the stock slot for ROMs but it just depends on how comfortable you are.
Keep playing around with trying to free up memory and you'll get real good at it
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Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
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Hey everyone,
I fixed the problem. I flashed to a stock Verizon S4 image, then did a factory reset. I had done one or the other, but not both. I guess this raises the question, why am I losing 6GB of space when I root my phone?
Thanks again,
andrx471
andrx471 said:
Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
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I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
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Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I was able to find that one, seemed the logical place for CWM backups to live, and I erased the contents after making sure I had a reserve copy on my laptop and a stock backup as well. However, I'm still seeing an abundance of used space and no explanation for where it's gone just by looking at the directory names. I do recognize that "miscellaneous files" is also where "System Memory" lies, taking up just under 6.4 Gb.
Any other thoughts?
See attached pic for reference.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Hey Andrx,
UNtil Skiddingus gets back to you, I can offer some semi-n00b impressions:
1. I've used both CWM and TWRP through my process of backing up the stock system, rooting, flashing Synergy ROM, and then de-bloating, and I can say that from a purely subjective perspective, I prefer TWRP. Mostly bc of the GUI - it's a little easier to navigate IMO. From what I understand, they basically do the same thing when it comes to recovery and flashing. I'm sure there are some technical differences that more experienced users can explain, but for a base user like me, TWRP seems to take care of my needs
2. AFAIK, If you're using TWRP, the partitions that are preselected when you choose the "Backup" tab - Boot, System, and Data - are all you need to choose for a backup of your current system. However, I think you may be either using the terms incorrectly or have an incorrect impression of how to flash a ROM. From what I understand, a custom ROM is not flashed (installed) to your SD card. You can designate your SD card as a place to store your backups of said roms or your stock ROM, but flashing a ROM sends that to your phone's internal storage to take up space in "System Memory".
Hope this helps clarify a bit, and my apologies in advance if I've botched any of this explanation. Senior members, please correct anythign I've said that may lead Andrx astray.
Cheers!
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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Awesome, this is definitely helpful. I'll work with those apps to clear it up and report back. Thank you!!
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skiddingus said:
I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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So!! Using TWRP, I chose: "Advanced" --> "File Manager" and then navigate to /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/xxxxweirddaterangexxx
Then press "Select" (from within the "xxxweirddaterangexxx" directory) and deleted an un-needed backup file that seemed to be almost 3GB in size.
REMEMBER TO STORE YOUR BACKUP ELSEWHERE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A COPY.
Once I did this, my phone storage showed 7.1 GB available, whereas before it showed 4.3. W00t.
Thanks again for your help skiddingus!!
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my G4 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Not that I have found. I think I remember reading somewhere that it is a licensing issue with the ex-fat support. CWM does not want to pay for it. Is this correct anyone?
Does Team Win have the same issue?
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I switched from cwm to twrp and can create a nandroid on my 64gb card.
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cwm to twrp
swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Yes there is. I have a SanDisk 64gb micro SD card and when I purchased it for my note 2 I had the same problem. What I did is format it to fat32 instead of ex fat using ease us partition the free version here's the link
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm after doing that i have had no problems it works in CWM just fine and for all other tasks in my note 2 and my s4. I tried a different program before I found easeus and it seemed to work but every time I did it after it my backups would just disappear.
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Attached is the picture from my storage page. Prior to this I deleted a few apps and I thought I had enough space to download GTA Vice City. Halfway through is stopped and had an available space error. What was downloaded was still appearing in memory so I went into recovery and wiped both the cache and delvik cache. I also wiped the play store app and google services framework data and caches so I could try to reset the issue. Since then other apps have been unable to update or download due to "insufficient space", and google music won't play because of it. How can I get this cleared up?
I am running stock android rooted with clockworkmod touch recovery.
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Try folder mount app in market to free up all that space. I haven't tried it personally but I heard it works for some.
Moves big apps to sdcard and link them as if they were installed on phones memory.
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Tada10 said:
Try folder mount app in market to free up all that space. I haven't tried it personally but I heard it works for some.
Moves big apps to sdcard and link them as if they were installed on phones memory.
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My issue is I can't install any apps without the insufficient memory warning. Last night I was trying to install SD Maid to no avail
titan71 said:
My issue is I can't install any apps without the insufficient memory warning. Last night I was trying to install SD Maid to no avail
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If I were you I would flash back to stock after you first clean out the phone then reinstall everything and use that app.
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I found the issue. There was a lot of space tied up in /emulated. I've deleted those files and I can install things again. Unfortunately the storage screen still isn't adding up but it's a start
Okay I don't mean to intrude to this post but I am having the same problem with memory and I was wondering if someone could help me.
Now I still have. Zip files on my phone now once I flash them could I delete them or how's that work. Someone please help.
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Ok I have 2 16gb sd cards 1 formated extsd with 4gb free out of 16gb and the 2nd card is fat format with 15.1gb free out of 16gb. I have a vzw gs4, and I use SafeStrap, I waqnted to do a back, so I installed the fat32 with 15gb available and it was trying to make the back up on the internal which didnt have enough memory, So then I put the exfat sd with 4gb available, and I was able to make the backup on that sd, I thought that fat worked on every gs4 and the exfat was the buggy one, Is it just a loki safestrap thing? TIA
Hope I get an answer, Its been a while since anyone has posted in here, Thanx again...
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Ok I have 2 16gb sd cards 1 formated extsd with 4gb free out of 16gb and the 2nd card is fat format with 15.1gb free out of 16gb. I have a vzw gs4, and I use SafeStrap, I waqnted to do a back, so I installed the fat32 with 15gb available and it was trying to make the back up on the internal which didnt have enough memory, So then I put the exfat sd with 4gb available, and I was able to make the backup on that sd, I thought that fat worked on every gs4 and the exfat was the buggy one, Is it just a loki safestrap thing? TIA
Hope I get an answer, Its been a while since anyone has posted in here, Thanx again...
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exFAT is a newer format that's Microsoft proprietary. The primary advantage over FAT32 is that it allows files greater than 4 Gb.
So, the likely problem is that your backup was bigger than 2Gb and couldn't be stored on FAT32.
Just a guess since you didn't say exactly what you used for the backup.
And exFAT isn't buggy, it's just less frequently supported.
Hope this helps.
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exFAT is a newer format that's Microsoft proprietary. The primary advantage over FAT32 is that it allows files greater than 2Gb.
So, the likely problem is that your backup was bigger than 2Gb and couldn't be stored on FAT32.
Just a guess since you didn't say exactly what you used for the backup.
And exFAT isn't buggy, it's just less frequently supported.
Hope this helps.
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4gb*
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4gb*
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Thanks. I fixed my post to have the right size, in case anyone is wondering what joshm is on about.
I have an S3 with Omega v42/4.1.2 and a 64 gb SD card which is almost full (the SD card is tricked into thinking it is the main memory so that I can install all apps to that).
I would like to upgrade to Omega v46/4.2.2 but I want to capture an 100% backup of everything just in case.
Is that possible? (when I reboot into recovery and do backup it only spits out a 2-3GB file).
Before I give suggestions, i'd like you to answer a practical question if you'll indulge me.
If you were to backup a 64 GB sdcard via recovery, where would the backup go?
Its also worth pointing out that the "swap" you're using now cannot work on 4.2 roms at all.
Best bet is to titanium backup apps and app data, nandroid backup then copy everything from your removable card to pc.
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Good point. Just thought there is a way to dump it directly to the PC via usb.
So on 4.2 you can ONLY install apps to the phone memory and not trick it into thinking the card is the main memory?
Correct. You can use folder mount though
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I am on 4.3 mj7 and love stock just need more storage for apps. Is there a solution for this?
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Move data to extsd card for starters
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
Move data to extsd card for starters
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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All apps dont move to sd lile 2gb monster app gta sa also when you bootstrap and add a rom you only get 1 gig of system storage.
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All apps dont move to sd lile 2gb monster app gta sa also when you bootstrap and add a rom you only get 1 gig of system storage.
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I'm not talking about apps, I'm talking about data like music, pictures, movies.....I have 16gb S4 with a 32GB extsd card and running safestrap with a stock rom and 2 rom slots for custom roms with no memory issues whatsoever
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I'm not talking about apps, I'm talking about data like music, pictures, movies.....I have 16gb S4 with a 32GB extsd card and running safestrap with a stock rom and 2 rom slots for custom roms with no memory issues whatsoever
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I don't know what I'm doing different if anything. I've tried leaving the stock rom in the Safe Side with safestrap and end up with about 9GB free. Then I installed Hyperdrive in the past to a slot and by the time I add in my apps to it, ect.. I end up with a measily 1 to 2 GB and not near enough room for a 2nd slot, thus my installs of Hyperdrive have been going into the stock slot because of this but now that seems to have caused me a setback in using slots for anything likely because I upgraded clear to MK2 bootloader and HD is MJ7 based so even with the module to make it work, the slot installs aren't working anymore.
Ok, I went a bit off topic but thought I would throw that in there because OUR whole ideas here are saving space on our little 16GB phones. lolz :highfive:
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I don't know what I'm doing different if anything. I've tried leaving the stock rom in the Safe Side with safestrap and end up with about 9GB free. Then I installed Hyperdrive in the past to a slot and by the time I add in my apps to it, ect.. I end up with a measily 1 to 2 GB and not near enough room for a 2nd slot, thus my installs of Hyperdrive have been going into the stock slot because of this but now that seems to have caused me a setback in using slots for anything likely because I upgraded clear to MK2 bootloader and HD is MJ7 based so even with the module to make it work, the slot installs aren't working anymore.
Ok, I went a bit off topic but thought I would throw that in there because OUR whole ideas here are saving space on our little 16GB phones. lolz :highfive:
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so you do have an extsd card and you have redirected all your data there?
decaturbob said:
so you do have an extsd card and you have redirected all your data there?
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As in the files (types) you mentioned, Yes, media, camera, videos, any other extra files outside of the apps themselves, yes!
I even tried moving some apps which will permit to SDcard storage to no avail. Still can't free up anything like the space you mention.
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As in the files (types) you mentioned, Yes, media, camera, videos, any other extra files outside of the apps themselves, yes!
I even tried moving some apps which will permit to SDcard storage to no avail. Still can't free up anything like the space you mention.
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Im in same boat this is why I want sd swap. If I flash hyper drive I end up with 1 gb rom works fine just cant download apps there is not enough storage.
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bulvine420 said:
Im in same boat this is why I want sd swap. If I flash hyper drive I end up with 1 gb rom works fine just cant download apps there is not enough storage.
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I found this a few weeks ago.....
have not tried it, but I am very curious to know if it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454518
Hello I recent decided to try another custom rom. And I seem to have a problem. How to I give all or most of my internal storage to the rom installed via SS? Here is a screen shot. Seems my internal storage is split in 2 I want to feed my three gig some of that unneeded eight gig that's just sitting there... Do I need an unlocked boot loader in order to have that option?
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I don't understand your question...
Our phones have 16gb,4gb is reserved for the system,4gb for apps and 8gb for other stuff.
And we can't change that...
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So if i install a custom rom on stock slot will it take full control of my whole internal storage?
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So if i install a custom rom on stock slot will it take full control of my whole internal storage?
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Yes,it should.
Maybe you have a few backups of the roms or something else takes up memory,I suggest that you format it...
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