My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
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yes you can do that but third party bateries are not as much reliable as manufacturers, i would recomend to have 2 or more bateries form phone producer and swap them as needed.
asifemon0 said:
My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
[email protected]
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Yes! yes! yes ! Don't use powerful battery than device providers suggestion . More powerful battery can destroy devices harsware .
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asifemon0 said:
My phn manufacturer has given me 1600mhz battery.now my question is,can i use more powerful battery?
Like 2000mhz? Or more piwerful one?
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I think you mean mAh, maybe your autocorrect has gone haywire the capacity of a battery is measured in this unit... Milliampere hours. This is the amount of energy that the battery will allow to let 1 amp of current to flow in one hour. A mAh is NOT a measurement of energy, is a measurement of the speed of the flow of energy... Therefore it's nothing to do with the "power" of the battery. So to answer your question, a 2000mAh battery is absolutely fine as long as its from a reputable manufacturer such as Ankers or Mugen; DO NOT buy any higher capacity batteries with no brand name off eBay. If you're having trouble figuring out if the battery you want is safe then just post the link here and I'll check it out for you . another option would be to get a battery from you phone manufacturer which is higher capacity, for example many HTC phones use the same size battery but some are different capacities... Yeah beats me too :silly:
AlfasPeralassery said:
Yes! yes! yes ! Don't use powerful battery than device providers suggestion . More powerful battery can destroy devices harsware .
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This is incorrect. Using a battery of a different voltage would be damaging, but I expect all phone batteries are similar, if not the same, voltage. A battery which provides too much current may be damaging too. But a higher capacity battery is perfectly safe provided the potential difference and current are the same as usual.
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I think you mean mAh, maybe your autocorrect has gone haywire the capacity of a battery is measured in this unit... Milliampere hours. This is the amount of energy that the battery will allow to let 1 amp of current to flow in one hour. A mAh is NOT a measurement of energy, is a measurement of the speed of the flow of energy... Therefore it's nothing to do with the "power" of the battery. So to answer your question, a 2000mAh battery is absolutely fine as long as its from a reputable manufacturer such as Ankers or Mugen; DO NOT buy any higher capacity batteries with no brand name off eBay. If you're having trouble figuring out if the battery you want is safe then just post the link here and I'll check it out for you . another option would be to get a battery from you phone manufacturer which is higher capacity, for example many HTC phones use the same size battery but some are different capacities... Yeah beats me too :silly:
This is incorrect. Using a battery of a different voltage would be damaging, but I expect all phone batteries are similar, if not the same, voltage. A battery which provides too much current may be damaging too. But a higher capacity battery is perfectly safe provided the potential difference and current are the same as usual.
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You are right . But most people choose their battery by the size .
No one care it's voltage . I know some of them who damaged their device.
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i just got a new momax 2700mah battery still fresh from the box and put it on my phone.. initial battery level shows 22% but then after a few moment it jumps to 62% and stop charging afterwards.. i check using battery monitor app and it shows i only got about 100ma of current even though im using an AC charger to charge..
what should i do now? im puzzled because i can't even know what is my current battery level??
Try to charge it for couple of hours
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Hello,
You need to let him charged during few hours and after calibrate your battery stats with "Battery calibration".
Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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Battery apps on the SGS2 only give a rough estimate of battery available at any given moment (a limitation of the hardware).
Non-stock batteries probably don't have the fuel gauge chip stock batteries have, so any reading you get whilst using one of these is probably going to be even less accurate than using a stock battery.
Obviously using non-stock/genuine batteries is a case of caveat emptor.
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i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
Gorjess said:
i see.. no wonder the batt percentage suddenly rides a rocket
it charges normally now but slightly slower than stock.. definitely
so any battery apps are rather useless when using an extended battery particulary on S2?
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They're not useless, but there's no way to absolutely 100% accurately measure how much juice you've got left, even with stock batteries. The numbers reported by battery apps are normally 'close', but you can sometimes see all kinds of weird results like the ones you saw with that battery you just got.
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ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
Gorjess said:
ok, i get it.. but would it affect to the actual battery life?
i mean battery life should scales according to its battery capacity right? even though the phone thinks that it still running on stock battery..
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No, it shouldn't have any bearing on the life of the battery.
Yes, at the end of the day you'll get the right 'capacity' regardless of any inaccuracy shown by a battery app at a given point in a charge cycle. For example, I have a 2000mAh Samsung battery, and my testing shows I do indeed get on average around 20% more juice out of it compared to the original 1600mAh one that came with the phone.
Tho non stock batteries are notorious for often not having a capacity the same as what they're advertised at. I bought a 3500mAh non-Samsung battery in December, tested it out for two weeks & found it was only roughly 1800mAH. It also used to get really hot (45°C) when charging so I took it back to the place I bought it from & got a refund then bought the Samsung 2000mAh.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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I didn't know the actual capacity for certain because I don't have the equipment to test that kind of thing, but my testing gave me around 10-15% more juice than the stock battery so I figured it was around 1800-1900.
Not exactly scientific, but after two weeks and a bunch of charge/discharge cycles, it was nowhere near the 3500mAh it was alleged to be, so I returned it. For me, I'd rather stick to a 2000mAh Samsung battery which was the same price as the genuine 2000mAh battery (~$40). I get fantastic battery life as it is, and 2000mAh is plenty for me. Plus I have the original 1600mAh which I store/keep charged @ 60/70% as a spare which I can charge to full quickly if I need it.
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Will check for improvements soon after 2-3 cycles..
Wait, what? So ur saying that the bigger the capacity the more inefficient it gets? How did you know the actual capacity of the battery ur using?
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I just wanted to know that, is there any more powerful battery out there for live with walkman?
I want to know it too, i search it in ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLD-2430MA...018?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41690eb9ea
I dont know what, more my baterry is during 8 hours our lower... Im using Real ice line + kernel panic.
I think kernel panic uses more battery.. Just try mesa
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Man, with me, the mesa kernel, lag all time during use. For unlock screen and using walkman i get hard lag... How time ur battery stand ?
For example, the 7 h +- my baterry was 100%, now, 12:15 +- is 66%, just 1 call(5 min) and some sms´s. Operator signal are full.
its all about mAh
leo4b said:
I want to know it too, i search it in ebay:
"cant post links yet sorry"
I dont know what, more my baterry is during 8 hours our lower... Im using Real ice line + kernel panic.
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for mdip devices i guess the average mAh is 1160, in the link above, the battery has 2430 mAh so it will last for long the more mAh, the more capacity a battery have.
sorry for my bad english
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Man, with me, the mesa kernel, lag all time during use. For unlock screen and using walkman i get hard lag... How time ur battery stand ?
For example, the 7 h +- my baterry was 100%, now, 12:15 +- is 66%, just 1 call(5 min) and some sms´s. Operator signal are full.
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Which rom are u using? I get less than 1% per hour when phone is idle..
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real ics lite and ics pureness, now is pureness...
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real ics lite and ics pureness, now is pureness...
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Did you calibrate your battery ?
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Isn't that battery is fake?We have discussed it at other thread...listen,higher mAh battery = bigger size battery
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Try Rage kernel. It can save more energy than other kernels. At the night (9 hours) in deep sleep mode LwW need only 6% of battery.
How i can calibrate ?
m4nz said:
I just wanted to know that, is there any more powerful battery out there for live with walkman?
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check this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017891
That people selling 2430mah ep500 batteries are simply liars.
"The official Dimensions (Approx.) : EP500 battery: 42.3mm x 45mm x 6.1mm2"
That means the battery has a volume of 11,6ml.
If we are talking about state of the art lithium batteries you'll get 250 to 620 Wh/l.
That means we get 2,9Wh to 7,2Wh
For a typical voltage of 3,7V that makes 780mAh to 1,940mAh.
Bear in mind the housing, contacts and protection against abusive conditions eats some of the space.
Extremely high energy density is only possible when you sacrifice power density in state of the art li-ion-technology and vice versa .
You will not get much more capacity until there are true next-gen batteries on the market.
If the battery really had 2430mAh for that price, they would sell millions and millions...
I guess the battery will have less capacity than the original (maybe it will even have less weight, thats always a hint on cheap batteries, for more capacity you need more active material unless you change technology).
most cheap batteries i have seen, had about 20% less capacity than the original.
additionally you can never be sure that cheaply made batteries will fulfill safety standards like un3480.
that means it can withstand abusive conditions, like high and low temperature, altitude, shock, vibration, etc without bursting in flames, exploding or leaking.
or was the producer too stingy with the expensive seperator and it will suffer internal shorts?
you will never know.
i have one third party ep500 battery here and it sucks. it weighs about 5g less than the original.
honestly only batteries from renowned brands are the real deal. sony and co put the best they have in high margin markets.
you can use new sony ep-500 battery with 1500 mA capacity
m4nz said:
I just wanted to know that, is there any more powerful battery out there for live with walkman?
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+1
the best kernel
the rage kernel is best for battery
der*bene said:
That people selling 2430mah ep500 batteries are simply liars.
"The official Dimensions (Approx.) : EP500 battery: 42.3mm x 45mm x 6.1mm2"
That means the battery has a volume of 11,6ml.
If we are talking about state of the art lithium batteries you'll get 250 to 620 Wh/l.
That means we get 2,9Wh to 7,2Wh
For a typical voltage of 3,7V that makes 780mAh to 1,940mAh.
Bear in mind the housing, contacts and protection against abusive conditions eats some of the space.
Extremely high energy density is only possible when you sacrifice power density in state of the art li-ion-technology and vice versa .
You will not get much more capacity until there are true next-gen batteries on the market.
If the battery really had 2430mAh for that price, they would sell millions and millions...
I guess the battery will have less capacity than the original (maybe it will even have less weight, thats always a hint on cheap batteries, for more capacity you need more active material unless you change technology).
most cheap batteries i have seen, had about 20% less capacity than the original.
additionally you can never be sure that cheaply made batteries will fulfill safety standards like un3480.
that means it can withstand abusive conditions, like high and low temperature, altitude, shock, vibration, etc without bursting in flames, exploding or leaking.
or was the producer too stingy with the expensive seperator and it will suffer internal shorts?
you will never know.
i have one third party ep500 battery here and it sucks. it weighs about 5g less than the original.
honestly only batteries from renowned brands are the real deal. sony and co put the best they have in high margin markets.
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That's not right! I've bought mine at this link, and he's is working like a charm! So It can be true! :good:
I want to buy a bigger battery for my phone (in terms of capacity). But I was struck with a couple of questions whose answers I couldn't find anywhere.
If anyone have replaced their stock battery with a higher capacity one, please help me.
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These are my doubts;
1) Voltage - My phone's stock battery is rated at 3.9v. What will happen if I replace it with a 3.7v?
I now a bigger voltage can damage the phone but no one has ever said anything about using a lower voltage rated one.
2. Capacity and Calibration - Does any value in the system files need to be changed? Or a simple calibration would do to make the percentage right?
Thank you.
EDIT: Please understand that I've never tried this before. That's why I am unsure.
Bump, anyone?
Adithya FRK said:
I want to buy a bigger battery for my phone (in terms of capacity). But I was struck with a couple of questions whose answers I couldn't find anywhere.
If anyone have replaced their stock battery with a higher capacity one, please help me.
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These are my doubts;
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Welcome to the xda forums, please, don't bump since it is not appreciated anywhere and might even lead to less help (some people won't even open threads that have more than 0 replies).
Adithya FRK said:
1) Voltage - My phone's stock battery is rated at 3.9v. What will happen if I replace it with a 3.7v?
I now a bigger voltage can damage the phone but no one has ever said anything about using a lower voltage rated one.
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Depends, I don't think a .2 lower voltage is going to make a difference, but since I do my physical work in a computer repairing shop I know that for charging a laptop this wouldn't matter since it is such a low difference.
Adithya FRK said:
2. Capacity and Calibration - Does any value in the system files need to be changed? Or a simple calibration would do to make the percentage right?
Thank you.
EDIT: Please understand that I've never tried this before. That's why I am unsure.
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What you have to do is fully discharge the phone (using the new battery) and charge it back up without starting it and then fully discharge from 100% and charge it back up. This will get the phone (and its charger circuit) some metadata about how long it took to charge and other various tasks performed by the system.
Good luck!
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Welcome to the xda forums, please, don't bump since it is not appreciated anywhere and might even lead to less help (some people won't even open threads that have more than 0 replies).
Depends, I don't think a .2 lower voltage is going to make a difference, but since I do my physical work in a computer repairing shop I know that for charging a laptop this wouldn't matter since it is such a low difference.
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What you have to do is fully discharge the phone (using the new battery) and charge it back up without starting it and then fully discharge from 100% and charge it back up. This will get the phone (and its charger circuit) some metadata about how long it took to charge and other various tasks performed by the system.
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Thanks, and sorry about the bump.
A low quality replacement battery was enough to fry my xperia z1's charging ic in long term, let alone a different voltage battery. As stated before me, logically 0.2 v difference shouldn't make much difference, but i highly recommend against it because charging ic *may* be specifically designed for 3.9v and *may* overcharge your new battery. But nothings for sure you and should try and see it for yourself, and maybe keep us updated too
P.S: Whats the make and model of your phone? Just curious.
Konur said:
A low quality replacement battery was enough to fry my xperia z1's charging ic in long term, let alone a different voltage battery. As stated before me, logically 0.2 v difference shouldn't make much difference, but i highly recommend against it because charging ic *may* be specifically designed for 3.9v and *may* overcharge your new battery. But nothings for sure you and should try and see it for yourself, and maybe keep us updated too
P.S: Whats the make and model of your phone? Just curious.
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It's from a local company here: Intex Cloud Tread. (One of those MT6591 phones)
The charging IC can fry the battery, but isn't charging voltage supposed to be higher than the battery voltage?
I'll check the charging voltage for my stock 3.9 v battery with Ampere and report it later here. Thanks. :fingers-crossed:
just want to know if anyone tried this batterry from aliexpress? it says it has 4100mah capacity, here's the link
HSABAT 4100mAh High Quality BL268 Battery for Lenovo zuk Z2 Z2131 Batterie Bateria Accumulator AKKU
http://s.aliexpress.com/mA7r2QrE
how to open the back panel, should I have to go to shop??
arpan1996 said:
how to open the back panel, should I have to go to shop??
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u only need heat gun and some thin object like cards to open it.. then use double sided tape when reinstalling it again if the adhessive is not reuseable.
If the battery it's not bigger in size is not bigger in capacity. Beware, inform yourself. : )
Don't spend money on that kind of scams. I did, some years ago.
johnnyjoe said:
If the battery it's not bigger in size is not bigger in capacity. Beware, inform yourself. : )
Don't spend money on that kind of scams. I did, some years ago.
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i think it has the same size but different capacity.. just like the one in op3 and op3t exactly identical battery but differ in respective capacity.. i just want to know if someone here try this.. thanks for your concern mate.
a battery cannot be the same sixe and have a differenct capacity ... at lease to my knolage. Also installing a bigger bettery might not be the bestest thing to do .... you know ... with the note 7 and all that ..... (explosions)
I think the point here is that we have a lithium-polymer battery while the one shown here is a lithium-ion battery. So it IS possible to have a higher capacity at same size as ion batteries have higher power density than polymer batteries.
Chadlinje said:
a battery cannot be the same sixe and have a differenct capacity ... at lease to my knolage. Also installing a bigger bettery might not be the bestest thing to do .... you know ... with the note 7 and all that ..... (explosions)
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bro if you watch teardown video in youtube of op3 and op3t battery, you'll see they has exactly the same dimension but different capacity, thats the magic of tech.
DanteDeSalvator said:
I think the point here is that we have a lithium-polymer battery while the one shown here is a lithium-ion battery. So it IS possible to have a higher capacity at same size as ion batteries have higher power density than polymer batteries.
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the only problem here is maybe the zuk z2 dont recognize the 4100 capacity and stop charging when reach 3500mah w/c is the stock value of the oem battery.
ericsonalo said:
the only problem here is maybe the zuk z2 dont recognize the 4100 capacity and stop charging when reach 3500mah w/c is the stock value of the oem battery.
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No that's not gonna happen. Battery stops charging when it indicates being full, not when it indicates being charged with 3500 mAh which in fact is a rough number. But these third party batteries are risky nonetheless. It might give you better usage time but maybe they won't live longer than some months, but maybe they will. Moreover if you overcharge or misuse the battery then these non OEM batteries, not having as good quality standards as the OEM ones, might be damaged or in worst case scenarios, explode.
So it's not like it's a complete lie, it's more like a gamble.
DanteDeSalvator said:
No that's not gonna happen. Battery stops charging when it indicates being full, not when it indicates being charged with 3500 mAh which in fact is a rough number. But these third party batteries are risky nonetheless. It might give you better usage time but maybe they won't live longer than some months, but maybe they will. Moreover if you overcharge or misuse the battery then these non OEM batteries, not having as good quality standards as the OEM ones, might be damaged or in worst case scenarios, explode.
So it's not like it's a complete lie, it's more like a gamble.
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thanks for your words dude.. btw i cant find online link for thr original one from lenovo itself.. can u help me?
I stop reading about the battery when I saw "RERFECT BUSINESS BATTERY" on the battery adhesive. Show how much quality it have...
lol
Device may become note 7. Use the stock Oem batteries
Ayush Rathore said:
Device may become note 8. Use the stock Oem batteries
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Note 7 , you mean
Did anyone tried this battery? On Ali now is sold with 4900mah which is a lie but in reviews some guys say it reaches up to 3500mah. Im interested in durability, how it is after 3-6 months of use. I cannot get hold of Lehehe wich is best option, this Hsabat is second best i guess. Some say they got defective one so its kinda lottery with those batteries.
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Device may become note 7. Use the stock Oem batteries
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Where to get stock OEM battery for zuk z2?
Service centers
bhushan2k said:
Where to get stock OEM battery for zuk z2?
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Use Lenovo online 'contact Us' link and find your nearest service center. I've seen prices around 1350-2000 Inr.
Hello and sorry for bothering,does anyone know how to change battery capacity ?
Thank You.
Er, change the battery to one with more capacity or one with less...
Not that I would do that...
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guhvanoh said:
Er, change the battery to one with more capacity or one with less...
Not that I would do that...
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Currently im using modified battery (asus zenfone 4 max battery) its working but it still say 4000mah
Sorry broken english
rockz98 said:
Currently im using modified battery (asus zenfone 4 max battery) its working but it still say 4000mah
Sorry broken english
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So that's a 5000mah battery?
You've done well to fit it in the battery bay!
I'm curious
Do you think it's using the extra capacity?
So is it using 0-5000, or maybe it's charging to 5000 then discharging to 1000 and shutting down
Or maybe it only charges to 4000?
If it's not indicating the charge level accurately I'd naively assume you'd need to use a custom kernel, though I'm out of my depth in terms of which could help
You're probably best to leave well alone and just blindly enjoy the extra capacity!
thesoupthief said:
So that's a 5000mah battery?
You've done well to fit it in the battery bay!
I'm curious
Do you think it's using the extra capacity?
So is it using 0-5000, or maybe it's charging to 5000 then discharging to 1000 and shutting down
Or maybe it only charges to 4000?
If it's not indicating the charge level accurately I'd naively assume you'd need to use a custom kernel, though I'm out of my depth in terms of which could help
You're probably best to leave well alone and just blindly enjoy the extra capacity!
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It only charge up to 4000mah , that's what i thought at first n need to find kernel that working with this ?????
Are you only modified battery cell? In battery have little pcb I think. I think thats read battery capacity
Alvian_P said:
Are you only modified battery cell? In battery have little pcb I think. I think thats read battery capacity
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Yeah,i think i want to going back to 4000mah
Rockz98 , did you direct install in the Asus battery to poco?