don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
Samstealth7 said:
don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
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I am running Goldeneye's I9505 rom with T-Mobile on my SCH-I545 now as we speak
Our s4 is able to connect to all available networks but the sim cards have created the limitations...if you have tmo sim + correct APN installed it will work on that network... Should be about the same across the board...that's why its sim unlocked...with the right info and tools it should work on any network
jamesd1085 said:
Our s4 is able to connect to all available networks but the sim cards have created the limitations...if you have tmo sim + correct APN installed it will work on that network... Should be about the same across the board...that's why its sim unlocked...with the right info and tools it should work on any network
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ya i get that part, but the funny thing is my old s4 that broke had the same apn settings. as this new one and could not get lte from tmo or att,
i know i can get voice signal from other cell providers,
but is picking up LTE from att/tMobile/verizon. normal for 1 device cause my old one definitely did not get LTE from anyone but Verizon
thanks for the info guys.
Samstealth7 said:
ya i get that part, but the funny thing is my old s4 that broke had the same apn settings. as this new one and could not get lte from tmo or att,
i know i can get voice signal from other cell providers,
but is picking up LTE from att/tMobile/verizon. normal for 1 device cause my old one definitely did not get LTE from anyone but Verizon
thanks for the info guys.
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Was your old s4 on pre mj7 firmware?
Samstealth7 said:
don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
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what are your apn settings?
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Was your old s4 on pre mj7 firmware?
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yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
cmlucht said:
what are your apn settings?
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tmo apn settings
Samstealth7 said:
yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
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As of mj7 global mode was enabled on our s4s...until that I believe our radios were vzw only as far as LTE goes...also our radios I believe are of the first gen to be CDMA and GSM capable
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what are your apn settings?
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att LTE via - net10
jamesd1085 said:
As of mj7 global mode was enabled on our s4s...until that I believe our radios were vzw only as far as LTE goes...also our radios I believe are of the first gen to be CDMA and GSM capable
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cool thanks buddy
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att LTE via - net10
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ok I have those settings but I only get h+
cmlucht said:
ok I have those settings but I only get h+
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What's your firmware version?
jamesd1085 said:
What's your firmware version?
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im running hyperdrive
Samstealth7 said:
yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
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Mj7 modem unlocked new LTE bands
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Mj7 modem unlocked new LTE bands
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good deal man,
that rocks on so many levels,
I was always telling my friends if you was going to buy a phone used or outright to go with a Verizon model,
just because of it being sim unlocked,
and now with this news about the LTE radios it seems like Verizon would be your best choice for an all-around device.
I wonder if a new T-Mobile or AT&T s4, would get LTE from Verizon?
Samstealth7 said:
good deal man,
that rocks on so many levels,
I was always telling my friends if you was going to buy a phone used or outright to go with a Verizon model,
just because of it being sim unlocked,
and now with this news about the LTE radios it seems like Verizon would be your best choice for an all-around device.
I wonder if a new T-Mobile or AT&T s4, would get LTE from Verizon?
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A T-Mobile device might get VZW's new LTE, it's AWS like T-Mobile's. VZW hasn't turned it on everywhere though.
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joshm.1219 said:
A T-Mobile device might get VZW's new LTE, it's AWS like T-Mobile's. VZW hasn't turned it on everywhere though.
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My friend just got that One Max your on.... Jeeeez that thing is huge!!! He told me so far his battery life has been great too.. although the phone is only a month old so we'll have to see after more time passes.
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Mistertac said:
My friend just got that One Max your on.... Jeeeez that thing is huge!!! He told me so far his battery life has been great too.. although the phone is only a month old so we'll have to see after more time passes.
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Lol tell him to get on viper rom it's like hyper drive on steroids and synthol
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im running hyperdrive
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That's your rom not your firmware...mdk mj7 mk2?its under about phone
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I know the specs show that it has AT&T LTE bands, but had anybody actually used it on AT&T LTE yet? If so, please report your impressions.
Thanks.
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I'm confused why so many people are worried about unlocking and band compatibility. Get the one from your own carrier !
phositadc said:
I know the specs show that it has AT&T LTE bands, but had anybody actually used it on AT&T LTE yet? If so, please report your impressions.
Thanks.
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Works exactly the same for me using an AT&T SIM in the T-Mobile HTC one. The other way around, I get less HSPA+ service using an AT&T SIM in a T-Mobile HTC One.
KillaHurtz said:
I'm confused why so many people are worried about unlocking and band compatibility. Get the one from your own carrier !
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No. The AT&T one doesn't fully support T-Mobile while the T-Mobile one fully supports BOTH T-Mobile and AT&T.
For people who don't want CDMA-based service, the T-Mobile version is the best one to buy for compatibility.
advocat3 said:
No. The AT&T one doesn't fully support T-Mobile while the T-Mobile one fully supports BOTH T-Mobile and AT&T.
For people who don't want CDMA-based service, the T-Mobile version is the best one to buy for compatibility.
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Are you sure about that, Maybe the AT&T version needs to be unlocked for it to work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I hope like hell it does because I would like to have the 64gb version working on my Network of choice, T-Mobile of course.
vinnyjr said:
Are you sure about that, Maybe the AT&T version needs to be unlocked for it to work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network. I hope like hell it does because I would like to have the 64gb version working on my Network of choice, T-Mobile of course.
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This has been discussed to death on the boards.
All the phones have the same internal radio hardware but what's been flashed to each device is different.
i got a att version unlock, big mistake for tmobile. i flashed tmobile rom and radio. alot of places in new york i get 2G which it was constant 4G with my note 2. Place where i get 4G i only get 7mbps. while with my note 2 i was able to get up to 18mbps. Order the tmobile version will return this one. The only reason i bought this is because they had it locally in ATT store while tmobile htc one is on backorder and not avail in any store.
Unfortunately Samsung doesn't just make the same model for both I would imagine it would save them money also but att phones work slow on T-Mobile but other way around your golden
alinefx said:
Works exactly the same for me using an AT&T SIM in the T-Mobile HTC one. The other way around, I get less HSPA+ service using an AT&T SIM in a T-Mobile HTC One.
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Oops sorry I meant to say that I get less hspa+ svc using a tmobile SIM in an AT&T one.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...4-is-first-phone-to-work-on-next-network.html
hope this can be a smooth transition for kernels/roms
jacobk said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...4-is-first-phone-to-work-on-next-network.html
hope this can be a smooth transition for kernels/roms
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Is that meaning IF i put a TMO LTE sim card into the Verizon S4, I will have TMO LTE since TMO LTE is based on AWS?
ytwytw said:
Is that meaning IF i put a TMO LTE sim card into the Verizon S4, I will have TMO LTE since TMO LTE is based on AWS?
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Great news if it happens within the year. Even better news for those who kept unlimited data
ytwytw said:
Is that meaning IF i put a TMO LTE sim card into the Verizon S4, I will have TMO LTE since TMO LTE is based on AWS?
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Uhh no. Different bands still
I hope my 10gb limit will still be enough
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Will verizon s4 work on at&t. Will i be able to get 4g? Thanks
4G as in H+? Then yes.
No, they have different radios. GSM (AT&T) vs CDMA (Verizon)
JaeKay, the Verizon S4 had both radios. I have personally used an AT&T SIM and made calls and gotten H+. So to the OP, YES YOU CAN. You just need to add the APN info after you put in the new SIM card.
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Silentgray said:
JaeKay, the Verizon S4 had both radios. I have personally used an AT&T SIM and made calls and gotten H+. So to the OP, YES YOU CAN. You just need to add the APN info after you put in the new SIM card.
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Need to root for APN change/add ? or possible to add new APN without rooting?
I was rooted but it should not be a requirement. Just need a non Verizon SIM in the phone.
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A co worker of mine pulled a new S4 out of box and put in his at&t SIM sure enough it worked. so non rooted works too.
kpa2727 said:
A co worker of mine pulled a new S4 out of box and put in his at&t SIM sure enough it worked. so non rooted works too.
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Wondering, does this mean a Tmobile sim card will work as well?
Tmobile
kainu7 said:
Wondering, does this mean a Tmobile sim card will work as well?
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One of my friends said he tried a T-mobile sim and it didn't work (on a non-rooted phone).
Silentgray said:
I was rooted but it should not be a requirement. Just need a non Verizon SIM in the phone.
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Thank you for reply.
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One of my friends said he tried a T-mobile sim and it didn't work (on a non-rooted phone).
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I have both a TMO sim and and ATT sim, and I got EDGE with TMO. No H/H+ right now on TMO because very few areas are on 1900. Our version of the S4 does not have the ability to use H/H+ on the AWS frequencies, just LTE.
Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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chubbrock said:
Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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This is not 100%, but just my understanding. The T-mobile version shouldn't have the radio frequencies , or even the same technology (gsm vs. CDMA) as the verizon S4. Dont think there is any amount of software modifications that an allow it either.
No, you cannot use it. It lacks the hardware radio.
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Damn. Didn't think so but was hoping so!
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It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
RavenII said:
It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
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Its possible but not probable because VZW is still using CDMA so is Sprint and I do not think the TMo/ATT/GE version have the baseband nor the radios to support CDMA. Once LTE band 4 is enabled and VoLTE is prevalent then the phone can be seemless across carriers.
I know it work the other way around
I put a prepaid att sim card in my ZVW s4 and it worked! As the vzw s4 comes stock as a world phone and can be used on gsm networks. Without unlocking. So if you unlock your TM s4 you should be able to pop in a vzw 4g sim and be OK?
I don't think you will have 4G though if you got a buddy with a vzw 4g phone grab his sim and try it after you unlock.
Att - gsm
T-Mobile - gsm
Sprint - cdma
Verizon - cdma / gsm 4g lte
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Samstealth7 said:
I know it work the other way around
I put a prepaid att sim card in my ZVW s4 and it worked! As the vzw s4 comes stock as a world phone and can be used on gsm networks. Without unlocking. So if you unlock your TM s4 you should be able to pop in a vzw 4g sim and be OK?
I don't think you will have 4G though if you got a buddy with a vzw 4g phone grab his sim and try it after you unlock.
Att - gsm
T-Mobile - gsm
Sprint - cdma
Verizon - cdma / gsm 4g lte
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Again the Tmo/ATT/GE do not support the LTE bands on VZW/SPRINT nor do they support CDMA/EVDO.
The VZW variant should work on any GSM network with a sim swap and APN switch but LTE will be limited or not available.
Right so he won't get 4g/4g lte
But should be OK on 3g after the apn settings are configured I believe. Hope this helps
I tryed to post an image or link but I can't yet cuz I'm still a noob here at xda sorry
chubbrock said:
Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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You CAN, but that does mean you'll want to.
T-Mobile utilizes 2 spectrums for HSPA+ and LTE. 1700/2100 for both. Without access to both spectrums the device will not receive data. Best you'll get is EDGE, which is only from interoperability with AT&T.
There are not interoperability standards for 4G LTE so you couldn't use this on AT&T LTE either.
So yes you can do it, but you won't like the service.
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Rebel908 said:
You CAN, but that does mean you'll want to.
T-Mobile utilizes 2 spectrums for HSPA+ and LTE. 1700/2100 for both. Without access to both spectrums the device will not receive data. Best you'll get is EDGE, which is only from interoperability with AT&T.
There are not interoperability standards for 4G LTE so you couldn't use this on AT&T LTE either.
So yes you can do it, but you won't like the service.
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You cannot use the T-Mobile S4 on Verizon, period. It doesn't support CDMA or LTE band 13 which are the only bands that Verizon currently offers service.
Now if you had a Verizon S4 you could use that on T-Mobile since it supports HSPA on the PCS band and LTE on band 4 which are both used by T-Mobile for 3G and 4G but that isn't what the original poster asked about.
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It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
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The question is will a t-mobile S4 work on VZW. The answer is no, it will not. Not unless that MDM9215 spontaneously changes into an MDM9615.
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Can you guys please read the data sheets on the APQ8064T, MDM9215M, and WTR1605L...then come back and tell us how it won't work.
Edit: Hint....the 9215 is what is inside the Nexus 4....which I also own....running LTE on T-Mobile...
Yes, but can you use that Nexus 4 on any cdma carrier?
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najaboy said:
Yes, but can you use that Nexus 4 on any cdma carrier?
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With the right hacks...yes. It's possible man.
This article (from QComm) states that the 9615 is capable of CDMA
This link shows very little difference between the 9615 and the 9215...
Again, I implore you all to be diligent when it comes to exploring new ideas...don't just dismiss something as not possible. There's no such thing.
Edit: Just incase the second link to the PDF doesn't work or is REALLY slow...I've attached the document to the post. Also, I took the time to spoon feed someone the info in another post linked here ....
Edit 2: Nevermind, the PDF is 2.5MB...won't let me attach it.
You may want to do a bit more research on the MDM9215. It does NOT support CDMA. It is only used in UMTS/GSM + LTE devices. CDMA support is what differentiates the MDM9615 from its sibling. This was explicitly noted by Qualcomm at UPLINQ 2012 as part of their QCMB API presentation.
So once again I will reiterate that a T-Mobile S4 lacks the necessary hardware to operate on Big Red. Furthermore, it is a simple matter to note that the MDM9215's commercial availability is limited to UMTS/GSM + LTE devices.
No amount of mad hacking skillz can overcome that hardware limitation. It would be necessary to replace the MDM9215 with a MDM9615, which is far from being a simple plug and play operation.
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Crap..my retarded ass read it as VZ S4 on Tmo...not the other way around...in that case, you're right...my apologies...I've been researching getting the VZ S4 working on Tmo....since that's what I'm going to be doing.
Again...my apologies.
I have the Verizon galaxy S4 running Loki'd Hyperdrive rom and I'm on T-mobile, but I only get 2G (AKA edge and too slow for mms) how can I get T-Mobiles HSPA+?
I was using AT&T's AIRVOICE and got HSPA+ but always got redirected tot he GoPhone account empty screen. so HSPA+ worked but AT&T wasn't fond of my s4 being verizon branded. So I switched to T-Mobile and I HATE Edge. but it's better than nothing.
You can't get a device on Verizon that was not part of the Verizon database to work.
Look at the new Nexus 7, even with the correct frequencies, people are having a hell of a time trying to get a device with the right LTE bands to activate.
If it's not sold as a Verizon device, sell it and buy something else.
I understand that I'll be able to use my Verizon Note 2 on T-Mobile with HSPA+, but not LTE.
Would it be possible for me to order a replacment antenna meant for a T-Mobile Note 2 and install it in my Verizon model?
Then would flashing a T-Mobile radio to access their GSM bands be feasible?
Baderkadonk said:
I understand that I'll be able to use my Verizon Note 2 on T-Mobile with HSPA+, but not LTE.
Would it be possible for me to order a replacment antenna meant for a T-Mobile Note 2 and install it in my Verizon model?
Then would flashing a T-Mobile radio to access their GSM bands be feasible?
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T-Mobile signal is horrible across the entire country why would you want to "ruin" your wonderful Verizon phone by turning it into a T-Mobile phone?
DreamFX said:
T-Mobile signal is horrible across the entire country why would you want to "ruin" your wonderful Verizon phone by turning it into a T-Mobile phone?
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Have you used T-Mobile personally?
Baderkadonk said:
I understand that I'll be able to use my Verizon Note 2 on T-Mobile with HSPA+, but not LTE.
Would it be possible for me to order a replacment antenna meant for a T-Mobile Note 2 and install it in my Verizon model?
Then would flashing a T-Mobile radio to access their GSM bands be feasible?
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Baderkadonk said:
Have you used T-Mobile personally?
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The simple answer is no. Flashing a t-mobile modem 2ill more than likely drop your imei and baseband. Our phone does have GSM capabilities but I do not believe it has the same band.
I have, however, heard of acheiving 4g..but I have personally not done so
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Have you used T-Mobile personally?
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Yes. You get what you pay for.
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Yes. You get what you pay for.
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How long ago was this?
Tmobile...good price but poor signal.
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